Deebo & Joe - Monday Night Football REACTION! Vikings SHOCKING comeback vs. Bears

9 Sep 2025 · 1 h 2 min · 19 chapters

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In short

Debo & Joe react to NFL games, mainly the Vikings’ shocking Monday Night Football comeback vs. the Bears, plus discussion of Ravens lead-blowing, a Bills fan ban, and 49ers TE George Kittle’s hamstring injury.

Guests

No external guests. Hosts are James “Debo” Harrison and Joe Hayden.

Guest backgrounds

Not applicable (hosts only). Debo and Joe are former football players/insiders who discuss injuries, coaching, and game strategy from personal experience.

Key claims

  • Vikings’ JJ McCarthy showed resilience, with a 21-point fourth quarter after a rough start including a pick-six; Bears “found a way to lose.”
  • Ravens’ coaching should “play to win,” not soften play-calling to protect leads.
  • A Bills stadium fan who hit DeHop/ Lamar on the helmet was indefinitely banned.
  • Kittle’s hamstring could be more than a minor strain; soft-tissue injuries often come from imbalance/fatigue.

Notable examples

  • Vikings: Justin Jefferson targets in the fourth; wheel-route TD to Aaron Jones; McCarthy’s legs used late.
  • Joe cites Tebow’s halftime speech as an example of turning momentum.
  • Field-condition story: Heinz Field 2007-style mud/patching affecting footing and play.

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Chapters

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Personal Updates and Family Health

0:31 to 1:24

Hosts share personal stories about their sons’ health issues and surgeries.

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Personal Updates and Family Health

2:20 to 3:06

Hosts share personal stories about their sons’ health issues and surgeries.

“And, man, listen, I'm feeling a whole lot better right now.”

Injury and Recovery Journey

3:06 to 10:01

A detailed account of the oldest son's injuries, surgeries, and recovery process.

“Yeah, so my son James, he did like a slap tear in his meniscus.”

Coaching and Parental Involvement

10:01 to 14:00

Discussion on coaching experiences and the father's involvement in his son's football career.

“But I go ahead and I'm like, you know what?”

Navigating Injury Concerns with Faith

14:00 to 20:24

Discussing the emotional journey of a player's injury and the importance of faith.

“I said, dude, you ever point at mine again?”

Transition to Monday Night Football

20:24 to 22:35

Shifting from personal stories to discussing the Vikings' recent game performance.

“It's another team that squandered something in the fourth quarter, dude.”

Vikings' Dramatic Comeback Against Bears

23:55 to 28:00

Analyzing the Vikings' comeback victory and the Bears' struggles.

“He had me ready to jump on the bandwagon.”

Caleb Williams' Performance Analysis

28:00 to 29:08

Analyzing Caleb Williams' performance and comparing it to his peers.

“I'm saying that through the first three.”

Challenges of Playing on Poor Fields

29:08 to 30:28

Discussion on the impact of field conditions on player performance.

“Hell, they had the field out there looking crazy, dude.”

The Importance of Proper Footwear

30:28 to 32:21

Exploring the significance of footwear choices for optimal performance.

“So they like kind of like soldered on top and then it poured rain like for the whole time, like all the way through the game and all that.”
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Strategies for Protecting a Lead

32:21 to 36:36

Discussing the importance of maintaining aggressive play while ahead.

“Dude, Butts is the best linebacker coach I ever had.”

Fan Behavior and Consequences

36:36 to 38:12

Examining the consequences of inappropriate fan behavior during games.

“And he came back and said they need to change the play calling and all that thoughtful of protecting.”

Kittle's Injury and Its Implications

38:12 to 42:01

Analyzing the potential impact of George Kittle's injury on his team.

“My man, he might not even get suspended for spitting.”

Injury Discussions and Personal Experiences

42:01 to 45:02

Hosts discuss the implications of player injuries and share personal stories of injuries.

“Oh, they're thinking about putting him on the temporary hour where you got to be out at least four weeks.”

Injury Discussions and Personal Experiences

45:23 to 46:21

Hosts discuss the implications of player injuries and share personal stories of injuries.

“Why did I search the internet for answers to my cold sore problem?”

Balancing Life After Retirement

46:50 to 56:00

Discussion about life after playing, including sleep routines and parenting.

“I'm like, dude, that's the only thing I eat.”

Russell Wilson's Performance Analysis

56:00 to 1:01:50

An in-depth discussion on Russell Wilson's gameplay and decision-making.

“I like the way, I mean, the one thing that Russell was doing that I did, kind of like, at least he was giving the receivers opportunities.”

Super Chats and Fan Interactions

1:01:50 to 1:04:40

Hosts interact with fans through super chats, discussing past games.

“Daddy, Uncle John donated$2 and said, fellas, Steelers just signed Julian Jabba Peppers.”

NBA Players in the NFL Discussion

1:04:40 to 1:09:10

Exploration of which NBA players might transition to the NFL and vice versa.

“NBA MVP, Shage Gilders-Alexander, says that there's no way he could play in the NFL.”
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2:08Welcome to this episode of Debo and Joe. I'm your host, James Debo Harrison. And here's my co-host, Joe Hayden. Please make sure you guys like and subscribe. You don't want to miss nothing. And, man, listen, I'm feeling a whole lot better right now. Last week was a little hectic, but I want to let you know, Joe, I got a hard out at 12. I got to get my son to the hyperic chamber to heal him up, bro. Okay, respect, respect.

2:37James Harrison:My son, today, September 9th, is my oldest boy, Joseph Ali Hayden IV's ninth birthday. He turns nine years old today. Let's go. Come on, man. Happy birthday, big Joey. Thank you. Shout out to you. Yeah, I was hectic last week, baby. I had two surgeries last week, bro. You had a lot going on. We both had a lot. Yes, sir. My youngest son had a surgery. Sorry, my oldest son had a surgery on Wednesday. And then my oldest son, he had a surgery on Friday. Like, it was crazy. Yeah, so my son James, he did like a slap tear in his meniscus. How was his going? How did the surgery go? How's he doing? Oh, it went good.

3:18It went good. And then my oldest, sorry, my youngest son, he blew out his labrum in his shoulder, dude. It's crazy, dude. You know what? Let me rewind this. So my oldest has had three surgeries in 14 months, dude. God. And it's not complications of other surgeries? No, dude. You know what? This is our show. To hell with it. I'm going somewhere else with this. So let's start back at the beginning. So my son, the oldest, he's playing ball his freshman year. Everything's going good. He gets into his sophomore year. And, you know, I like to take my kids with me out to AZ to train. So I take them with me out there.

4:08We come back. His sophomore year, as soon as he gets back, he does like a high ankle sprain. Okay. So he sprains his ankle. He doesn't take the time to heal it. And he goes back out there and he plays on it. So the second game of the season, he goes out there and he actually like tears two of the ligaments in his ankle. And he blows his SC joint, his sternocuvicular joint, right? Where is that? Dude, it's right here. It's right here. so we actually got lucky with that process because it went uh it went anterior instead of posterior i believe because if that went the other way then you know you have a chance of it like hitting like his carotid artery yeah uh fucking jugular vein all that stuff right getting bad right it's getting it's getting bad right i don't know that that is what has happened you know so he's he's not starting as a sophomore so he's playing Saturday and you know I see him I'm like dude you can't move like you need to go you know I need to take you to get an MRI right and he's like no no no I'll be all right you know I don't uh I don't want to get an MRI I don't want to miss practice I don't you know I don't want the coaches you know saying nothing I'm like, okay, all right.

5:32I'll let you make that decision. So as the season goes on, we don't know, like I said, about the SC. And I had my chiropractor come in. My chiropractor comes in every so often. And he's like, hey, James, hey, man, you need to look at this. His SC is just circling. It's popping in and out. So look at it. He played after that. We don't know he did it. He thought he had a stinger. he's like i got you know i got a stinger whatever he said i tweaked my ankle i'm like yeah i'm like you ain't tweak your ankle i'm like you can't move i'm seeing him saturday i'm like dude you can't move like you you you looking bad i told him i said you looking like shit son you know and i'm like well i'm gonna let you tough through it you you you make the decision you know so after he does that my chiropractor looks at it he tells him you know you need to get it looked at i'm like hey we're going to get an mri and while we're there we're going to get an MRI on your ankle too, right?

6:28So we get the MRI, come to find out he has a couple touring ligaments in his ankle and his SC is blown. We got all that fixed. Right. He's going to, he's going, he's going to need surgery, right? Well, what we don't know at that time is like how serious like it could have been. So he's trying to figure out how he can't get surgery. so we had to go to a thoracic surgeon so a specialist like that's all he you know he really does he really does so we we talked to him and you know James really wants to continue to play and he's like dude you cannot continue to play football if you do not get this fixed because it could it could literally kill you you know what I'm saying so life you know that now I think is right before the playoffs.

7:20So we're going into the playoffs. I tell the coach, hey, I'm pulling him. He can't play. He can't finish the season. It's a game or two before the playoffs. They go into the playoffs. They get to the championship game. They end up losing their runners-up. So by this time, we done figured out that James has to get this surgery. You know what I'm saying? It's no other choice. And it's a nine-month time frame. So he done missed half his sophomore year. he's going to miss the whole he missed yeah he missed all of his junior year okay and and now you know we know he has to get the thoracic surgery in july and he's going to get the ankle surgery in september so we fast forward he done lost so much weight dude he's 155 pounds how much did he start off when he how much did he start off when he first started not 190 190 okay So he done lost like 40 pounds of weight.

8:19And by the time he's able to get back into it, we built everything back up. We get into it. And now he's 205. Oh, come on. So his first day. Right? Right, right. So his first day of practice, now it's April, May. This is the first time he's been cleared to actually do any kind of real movement on his ankle. and he gets in, he's doing a little move and he feels something in his ankle. So he kind of walks it off. The coach looks at him and says, hey, are you all right? He says, you know, he said, well, if you can't do the drill correctly, don't do it. So that popped off. So I teach my kids, don't say nothing to adults.

9:03James went on ahead. If you got a problem, you come to me. So he got out of practice. He comes to me. Now, he tells me this, and then he continues to tell me what he hadn't told me over the course of the last three years. See, I'm a parent. I'm like, you know what? I'm going to sit back. I'm going to stay out the way, especially when it's football, because I don't want these coaches feeling some kind of way. Yeah, I know everything. All that other stuff. Right. Yeah. I'm going to sit back. I'm going to do all that. So now he's telling me from the time he was a freshman, basically they've been saying to him, you know, hey, man, you need to toughen up.

9:36You need to go harder. You need to do more. All this other stuff. Right. Do they not know about his injury? No, no, no, no, they don't.

9:44James Harrison:So we can't blame. We can't blame. We can't blame. We can't blame for that. If they would have known, we can't blame them for that. But my kids are tough. I don't raise wussies. You've been saying all this to be going through. I can only imagine, James. Exactly. So the fact that you're even insinuating that, it kind of upsets me. But I go ahead and I'm like, you know what? He's like, yo, I don't want to play no more. I don't want to play here. I don't want to be here. Like, I'm done that. I'm like, listen, let me go talk to the coach. I got to insert myself now. I sit down. I talk to the coach and, you know, I let him know.

10:22Like, you know, my son could have lost his life out there. Like if that thing went the other way, we wouldn't have done nothing. He could have let out on the field. And on top of that, my son tells me that he has an exit meeting with the equipment manager. And the equipment manager tells him, with my son, knowing they don't know this, that he has to get this surgery that's going to end his whole junior year, tells him, you know what? I think you could have been, you know, you could have toughened it out. You could have did more. Oh, no. Oh, no. So, so, so I'm, I'm telling the coach this, we're going in and I let him know.

11:00I said, you know, from this point forward, I will no longer be sitting back. I will be 100 % active. I will be present. I will be, yes, I will be present. So from that point forward, like I was already going, I got to work on this ankle every day because it's certain things that you need to do to make sure, you know, it goes right. And you got to floss it. It's things that the normal training room is not going to do. They don't even know what to do. So fast forward again, we get into his first game back his senior year. He ain't played in the last, you know, two years, basically. And he done missed half his sophomore, all of his junior, and now it's game one.

11:47Dude, we get into game one, and I ain't going to even lie. I ain't never told my son he was good. But I was like, son, you was, you know, he was doing good. He was doing real good, dude. Now, the second half comes and he goes to cut and there's alignment on him. He's trying to make the tackle. He actually makes the tackle and his knee just, bow, it bows out, right? So, at that same time he did his ankle and his SC, he told me his knee hurt, you know. So, he just said it hurt. that I'm gonna come back to that so he goes and you know I kind of see the next play and I'm like he ain't moving right I know when my son ain't moving right two three plays later they call me like hey your son wants you I come down there and um he's like you know my knee hurt I you know when I stepped it you know kind of went out and yeah so you know we're sitting there I'm like I don't know what to tell him, dude.

12:49I'm at a loss for words, dude. I'm like, God, help me. I need something. It ain't got to be now, but I need something, you know? So I'm sitting there. I get up. I go back into the stands. The game ends. I go down. I grab his helmet. And he says, hey, dad, walk behind me in the line. I think something about to happen. I'm like, okay. So They go do their thing, right? And you know how kids are. They mouth and talking back and forth. So as I'm walking behind in the line, the AD grabs me and says, oh, hey, you can't be in the line. I'm like, all right, cool. So I move to the side. So as I'm moving to the side, kids, you know, they're going back and forth.

13:32They're kids. You know, your coaches, you get your kid, you know, tell them, hey, kill it, whatever. Yeah. So as I'm walking through, I got so far behind that my son can't see me. He about 20 yards ahead of me. And I see a grown man, a coach. He pointing. He saying, that's him right there. That's him. I said, hey, who the fuck you pointing at? What was he pointing at your son for? Saying he was the one that was mouthing off. And basically, that's the one y 'all need to go get. I said, dude, you ever point at mine again? You know, I went to -

14:08James Harrison:You a grown-ass man. Yes. I said, you a grown-ass man, dude. You go ahead and grab these kids. let these kids mouth off get your get your own kids oh he went to crickets so now the ad is trying to get me to leave they done got security and all this other stuff so i go ahead and i walk back so i still don't know what's up with james's ankle right so i mean sorry i still don't know what's up with james's knee so we get back there and he's uh he's working his knee and i'm looking and i'm like it's loose i'm like that acl is loose it's not you know how you get that pop at the end Yeah, yeah. It's not doing that pop.

14:44So, you know, I tell James, hey, go get dressed. You know, doctor said, I don't know, you know, he's going to have to get it looked at, you know, da da da. So I'm like, James, go get dressed. So I'm like, doc, you know, that's loose, dude. He said, I can't say for sure that it's gone. He said, they had another kid that actually tore his complete, like that was, that his was totally, it was gone. Like it was no question. James, he couldn't say it for show, for show. He couldn't say it for show. it's a maybe so I leave and as I'm leaving you know James come up to me and he's like he's like dad just tell me the truth I'm like son I don't know you know if I knew I would tell you but I don't know so we go and uh we get the we go and we get the we get the MRI now I ain't a doctor but I play one sometimes okay so I'm sitting back there and I'm looking at the MRI and I'm like, dude, that's his ACL.

15:44I'm looking at him like, it's his ACL. I can see it, dude. I'm like, it's his ACL. So he get out of the thing and I'm, you know, I'm just preparing him, you know, I'm like, hey, I think from what I'm looking at, dude, it's your ACL. And like, that's, you know, we'll figure out what it is. We'll figure it out, baby. I mean, hey, you could just go, you go have to pray on it, dude. So I'm like, everything, you got to put it in God's hands. Everything happens for a reason. Everything happens for a reason. And I know right now in God's time. It's not your time, it's going to be God's time. Yes, no question.

16:19So, you know, we go back over after we get the MRI and they put it up on the screen and I'm looking at it. And he sees it up there and he goes and starts looking on his phone. And he looks and he's like, oh, yeah, it's gone. you know and you know he ain't he ain't lost it yet he ain't lost it yet so doc comes in and doc is like yeah you know he calls for the guided reason and he's like um you know what about this what about that and he's like well it's a meniscus it's a it looks like a little uh it's a slap tear on the meniscus and you know so on and so forth and doc's like no what about the you know what about the acl he's like yeah it's um it's scarred up it's healed he's like would like it's scarred up and sealed at some point he uh he tore his acl it's scarred up in the hill the same game that he told me his knee hurt where he messed up his ankle and he messed up his sc

17:19James Harrison:he actually did a partial tear of his acl so you're a little man bro listen yeah all these injuries he's fighting through the gangster so i go and uh you know he's sitting over there he's anxious like what what what and i'm kind of giggling in my head because i know what's going on i know what's going on and the when he finally just sat down and was like yo uh so this is what it is you got a slap tear you're looking at maybe three to four weeks and you know you could be back at it dude this dude dropped to his knees like he started yeah dude he hugged me and i'm like laughing but i'm laughing crying because i'm so happy right oh for sure that's your doc is like what's going on are we okay i'm like doc you you know what we we are good dude we are real good and you know at times like that dude like i really lean heavy on the word you know what i'm saying Right now, what I do is I actually send my son's scripture in the morning after I do my reading in the morning, you know, and the more I get into the word, the closer and more of a relationship I build my Lord and Savior.

18:42I was baptized and, you know, I accepted my Lord and Savior in August of 24, dude. And from that point forward, I can't think of anything that has given me more comfort than that, dude. I love that, man. I love that, dude. And for him, you know, at the time, I'm just telling him like, yo, you know, you're being attacked right now, man. And this is not God. he's trying to pull you away he's seeing that you're getting closer and he's trying to pull you away to get you to be like you know what this ain't working no it's working you know what I'm saying it's always yes it just may not be right now you have to go through different things to build more faith you know what I'm saying

19:34James Harrison:it may not come when you want it it'll be there right on time no question you know what I'm saying So I say all that to let them know, man. So after that game, the AD sent out a letter. Like the coaches, you know, the players, they can't be on the field anymore. I mean, well, parents can't be on the field anymore and all that other stuff, right? So, you know, me, I got to let them know I'm going to protect mine at all costs. And as I said before, it's only two things that are going to stop me from protecting mine. That's God in the grave. He ain't neither one of them. You understand? Well, Debo, good news is your good man is good.

20:19James Harrison:My young man is good. Yes, sir. And we got some good ball. And we got some football. How it go? How it go? Faith? Family football? Faith, family, football. That's what they say. Let's go. Let's get to the football, baby. We got the Vikings, man. You know what? It ain't even the Vikings, man. It's another team that squandered something in the fourth quarter, dude. I don't know what is going on with this week. You got the conspiracy theories. I'm trying to tell you, man. I'm trying to tell you. Listen, man. I'm going to give credit. I'm going to give credit to JJ, man. He stays to come back for the ages.

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23:31James Harrison:Bears, how did you lose that game, man? So this is what I'm trying to tell you, James. You're always going to have winners and you're going to have losers at the end of these games. You want to lead a stadium with a win. The Bears find out a way to lose. They find out a way to lose. I love Caleb's first drive. He looks amazing. He's scrambling around. His line's not getting too much protection. He had me ready to jump on the bandwagon. Who? He had me ready to jump on the bandwagon. It looked nice, right? What? Nothing that the Bears really do is on time. You know what I'm saying? Everything is ad-libbing.

24:07James Harrison:He's moving. He's scrambling. He's getting around. He's extending plays. Nothing's really too simple for him. Drop back. Boom. I'm chilling. Get the ball out. Everything he's running for his life and extending plays and making things go a little bit harder. J.J. McCarthy, beginning of the game, was not looking good. Through the pick six in the third quarter. Not looking good. But listen to what I'm telling you. Listen to what I'm telling you. The way that you just stay the flow, stay a course, his coach, J.J. McCarthy, and my good man, Josh McCowan, over there, back up. He was the quarterback for the Browns.

24:39James Harrison:He's now on the sideline. I think he might be quarterback coach there. The way that they made it simple for him, and when they went man-to-man in the fourth quarter, he started going to Justin Jefferson. He threw the ball to the running back out of the backfield, Aaron Jones, on the wheel route for the touchdown, and then he used his legs. I just love the fact how the Vikings, they didn't give up on him. He was not. Don't give me any stretch of the imagine. J.J. McCarthy played like Aaron Rodgers or any of those other dudes. But – You said he did or you said – He did not. He did not at all. Not even close.

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25:10James Harrison:Okay, don't do that. Not even close. Okay, I got you. I misheard you. I said, I'm saying McCarthy – J.J., he did what he had to do to end up winning the game. In the fourth quarter, they scored 21 points. He did those drives. I'm not saying at the beginning of the game, that was subpar. That was subpar, for sure. But the Bears could have extended their lead. They could have won. They could have figured it out. But when it got to the end, when it got to the gritty, he scored three touchdowns when they needed to get those touchdowns and get out of the stadium. And the Bears found a way to finagle it and to lose it.

25:39James Harrison:So question, though. Them boys only had like a 7 percent chance of winning with 134 left in the third quarter. What was 17, 16? The fourth quarter. 21, fourth quarter, 21 points, brother. 21. So I just love, I mean, I'm not praising like he played amazing. The first quarters were not all that in any stretch. He didn't do 50-some yards, an interception, a pick six, but in that form it needed to be done. He did whatever that halftime message was that O 'Connell told JJ, man, I want to know what he said. Listen, he came out of half and still threw the pick six. He came out Great speech. Pick six.

26:22James Harrison:Boom. All right, we still good? Hey, listen, this is what's going to happen. You go go out here, you go throw this pick six, and then you go tink. And then you're going to come back even better. That's for real, bro. What's your best halftime speech you ever had? Or did you even need that? Oh, the best halftime speech I ever had that was in college by Tim Tebow. Dude, I hear that a lot. Tebow got words. Tebow got words. Tebow got bars. And Tebow mean what he say. And that's why I rock it when Tebow was on. He's like, look at me. Look at me. We're going to give you the best 60 minutes for the rest of our lives.

26:54James Harrison:For the rest of our lives. That was the best pregame, the best halftime speech I've ever had. You thought them 60 minutes after that, y 'all was just dead. That's all that mattered, huh? That's all we had. I was going to give him all I had because I knew he was going to give me all he had. Oh, no question. I think Tebow was like the coldest college quarterback ever. I mean, pros, it's something different. You know what I'm saying? That's a totally different monster over there. like dude Caleb he just I think he helped everything that they did dude like first quarter fire second quarter third quarter fourth quarter dude I think the last three quarters dude went what?

27:36James Harrison:it was a couple of passes in the fourth I'm not gonna lie 12 of 20 30 30 something he was throwing great 27 something like that he shows flashes He shows flashes all around of excellence. Scrambling, throwing it on the run, all different angles, putting the ball where it needs to be. But like you said in that fourth quarter. Putting the ball where it needs to be, dude. He missed that wide open 34-yard touchdown. I'm saying that through the first three. Through the first three quarters, we saw all that. He was diving. But then in the fourth, we saw errant throws just over people's heads. Things that you just need to make those passes.

28:10James Harrison:And when I say that with J.J. McCarthy, on the fourth quarter, when he threw that wheel route to the running back, it was perfect because he didn't even throw it, like, make him go run and get it. He's wide open. Throw it so he can catch the ball and fall into the end zone. You know what I'm saying? Like, just simple things like that is where Caleb just get the ball into their hands. A lot of plays he does do great, but then in the fourth, it just started looking like I don't know what it was, but some passes was just flying out of his hands. Listen, man, how you going to be the number one pick, dude, of your draft class, and now you done lost to everybody that came after you?

28:45Daniels, May, and JJ. What are we talking about?

28:49James Harrison:Yeah, you're right. And he was the number one pick. And I ain't going to lie, the Bears. It's the Bears. You're acting like the Bears. The Bears, don't go to the Bears. Organization. I don't really like what they're doing over there, man. They setting them up. They got them looking crazy. They had Trubisky out there looking crazy. They had Justin Fields out there looking crazy. Now they got Caleb out there looking crazy. Hell, they had the field out there looking crazy, dude. The field. Yeah. They had the field out there. They're up there stamping down the field. Patched up. Patched up. Like you ain't got a damn game.

29:21Like, bro, I don't know what they was doing. We had a situation like that with the Steelers, dude. It was, I want to say it was like 2007 Miami. And it, well, you know, they have like all those games playing like around that time. And then Pitt plays on it. They had the high schools playing on it. So what they did is they resided the field like right after they had stopped the games on Saturday. And then it rained, poured, cats and dogs, bro. It was so bad. The punter kicked the ball and the ball hit in the ground and just stayed there just like that. Like a golf shot, like a golf. Yes, dude. And then when you would go to cut, dude, if this was my foot right here, bro, that thing would be all the way up on my ankle, dude.

30:13Damn near close to my shin, dude. My foot would be that deep into the mud when you was going to cut. And that was at where? That was at Heinz Field. That was at Heinz Field. They had re-sided. So what they did is they, I believe it ended up being they soldered it for them and then they couldn't get it removed. So they like kind of like soldered on top and then it poured rain like for the whole time, like all the way through the game and all that. Like, dude, that was the worst. That was the worst field you ever played on? Dude, that's the worst. That was the worst field I had ever played on, dude.

30:53Okay.

30:55James Harrison:I mean, I played in Chicago a couple of times, and their field is the grass is high and it's kind of patchy. You know, so that field is just not, I'm not a fan of the Bears field. I'm not a fan of turf. I mean, I like turf. I like natural grass. So my favorite. Do that bother you when you go out there and you see, like, they ain't really taking care of the field? Yes. I mean, no, it doesn't affect me. Hey, I'm going to tell you this right now. When I see the field ain't taken care of and it's like muddy inside, I'm like, yeah, they can't run. That helps me. I'm going to power through it. I'm going to speed, guys.

31:32I'm going to be able to catch their ass now.

31:34James Harrison:I'm a cornerback. I'm a cornerback. My first thing I'm thinking about is my footing. Can I fall? Can I break? So I instantly need to go get the seven studs. Yes. You got a stat room, man. When we in the grass and you got a terrible field, I got to go get them seven studs with them long so I know my feet no matter what. record an inch dudes always making fun of the seven studs but if you're in the grass in the terrible field and you don't have on seven studs you're not going to be sticking you stagger them things that give you that give you that good grip oh for sure down on that big one on the front small one here two big ones here and then your your small was in the back like you got to stagger them things man it makes it so much easier to grip and get onto that field my coach Keith Butler man he taught us that man oh yeah But you know, Butts was making sure.

32:22Go put the seven studs.

32:24James Harrison:Yeah. You had Butts. Yeah, I had Butts. Get you some seven studs. Oh, yeah. You was there in the one year. I had Butts for the show. Yeah. Love Butts. Yeah, for sure, man. That's it. Dude, Butts is the best linebacker coach I ever had. I bet. I credit him with my career just as much as I credit Dick LeBeau. Without the two of them, there is no me, though. Busty's hilarious, bro. He's hilarious. Yeah, so let's get over here to that Sunday night loss with the Ravens. That Sunday night loss for the Ravens was the seventh time since the start of the 2022 season that they have lost a game while leading by double digits in the second half, Doug.

33:19Wow. That's crazy, dude. They have blown 17 such leagues since John Harbaugh became the team's coach. Harbaugh ignited that number is too high. And he said the team has to be really intentional when they find themselves in the position in the future. Maybe part of it is we're ahead. We're ahead a lot, and we have a lot of two-point leads. I don't believe we need to really, I believe we need to really, what did it say? I believe we need to really thoughtfully, what? I can't see it. Make it bigger. They need to be thoughtful and protecting leads. There we go. I do believe we need to be really thoughtful of how we approach the situation going forward.

34:13Let's give it some time. Let's give it some thought. let's give it let's give some thought to the play calling let's give some thought to the defense play calling let's give some thought to my minds to our mindset yeah it's everything I told you y 'all stop calling plays you started calling plays to try and run the clock out the defense started playing soft keep everything in front of you and their mindset was gone as soon as they got that what was it 20 to 25 to 40 lead they just thought it was gonna be a pushover and take off You're only two scores away from actually losing the game if they make two two-point conversions.

34:51James Harrison:Debo, you speaking, you saying, he's saying, I don't, we need to be thoughtful about protecting leads. No, you don't. You need to keep on doing what you was doing to get the lead. You need to keep on trying to score. Hey, the protect word is the same thing as you're talking about right here. Play to win. Don't play to lose. When you start playing not to lose, then that's when you lose. You got to play to win the game. You get up in the lead. Don't start changing nothing up. Keep going hard. Keep blitzing them. Don't make your defense get back and get all protective. No. You know what I'm saying?

35:25James Harrison:Keep blasting them. You're supposed to pile on. You're supposed to pile on. Pile on. Pile on. Dog walk their ass. Soon you get to chilling, they're going to get to spanking you. It's such a thing as momentum. And soon you let a dog get one bite on you, they're like, all right, back. Now you're in retreat mode. No, don't never go and retreat, Mr. Harbaugh. You have Derrick Henry and Lamar Jackson. Don't slow them down. Keep going. Keep going. Keep scoring. That's the way you're going to protect your league. Make it bigger. Yeah. Yes, that's the way you protect your league. You make it bigger. You don't sit there and hold on to it.

35:58This ain't like it's two minutes left and they ain't got no time out. Dang it. No. This man ain't got a whole quarter. And y 'all just seen him go down there and get a field goal in less than 20 seconds at the end of the half. He walked it down there. Stop it. For you. Stop it. Stop. What are we talking about?

36:14James Harrison:What are we saying, man? Like that don't make no sense at all. That's why I love Jim Harbaugh. He's a great coach. But what he's saying out of his mouth right there, I just don't agree with. Like, just keep going hard. Like we need to be thoughtful of protecting the lead. No, you need to keep trying to murder, keep trying to score, keep trying to sack, strip, fumble, keep trying to get more points. Yeah, I think just I think he might have used the wrong word. And he came back and said they need to change the play calling and all that thoughtful of protecting. you know that's that's more of like yo i'm gonna hold on to this i'm not trying to get more i'm not trying to make more you know that's like somebody that's like you know i'm gonna i'm just gonna hold on to my money i ain't going to invest it and try to make more of you know i'm just gonna protect it like it's gonna be safe right here yeah i'm not i'm not no i gotta i gotta invest it into into something that's gonna make me more come on so the fan who hit d-hopping and uh lamar on the helmet last night has been indefinitely banned from the bills stadium according to Adam Scheffner.

37:13Yep.

37:14James Harrison:Keep your hands and your feet to yourself, fans. I still say they should have pressed charges on him. I know what you're saying, Deebo. You ready for him to get locked up? If they had did it, the fan would have went and pressed some charges. If he would have took off on the fan first and just pushed him, he probably... Look at, dude, Cardi B. Oh, yeah. Try to get her for 20. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He would have. She would have for sure. He would have for sure. And she didn't even touch her. She was just saying some words to her. I wasn't even talking about whooping on her either. No. Just asked her what she was doing with some other, you know, other language to it.

37:51James Harrison:Yeah. Well, I hope this lets fans know your ass ain't going to be able to come to no more games. You put your hands on people. You can still watch. You can still watch on TV. Oh, that's lovely, though, D-Bo. I mean, you can't be present. Dude, you can watch on TV. drink and all that. Listen, I need more of a penalty, man, because we would get more of a penalty. I need them to get that same penalty. Bro, we speak about penalties. Bro, we speak about penalties. We speak about penalties. My man, he might not even get suspended for spitting. What? Your man might not even get suspended for spitting.

38:30James Harrison:Hey, I ain't gonna lie to you, bro. He might not. We talking about spitting. When I think about it, my first start happened because Joey Porter spit on, I believe, was William Green. Pre-game spit in Cleveland? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Pre-game spit, fight, all that. PZ. Wow, man. Love PZ. PZ, I appreciate you, baby. That was 2004. Yes, got me my first start, for sure. I really appreciate that. That was back in the day. That was back in the day. What are you trying to say, Joe? Oh, my bad, OG. My bad. No, no. I'm just feeling, I'm feeling some type of way I feel like I felt like, I feel like I felt like an old, like, No.

39:16James Harrison:No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Oh, photo. Yeah, that was there. That was back before my time. Yep. Before you. Okay. Okay. I ain't gonna crash out. You know what I'm saying? Hey, what else you got, Debo? What else I got? Yeah.

39:36All right, man, let me see what I got going on here. Take me where I need to be. So let's get it to Kittles, man. Kittles, he reportedly is expected to be sidelined for multiple weeks after suffering a hamstring injury during Sunday's win over Seattle, dude. That's wild.

39:56James Harrison:They're going to need him. They're going to need him. I mean, especially now. I don't know. I hope Christian McCaffrey stays healthy this whole season because that dude is a baller once he's on the field. But if they lose Kittle, we need more McCaffrey. You know what? He lost two weeks. He lost two games last year with a hamstring. Mm-hmm. You know, these guys that, like, do these soft tissue injuries, I don't think they understand. It's like a muscle imbalance. It's either for him, he's probably doing hamstrings. He's probably a guy that's quad dominant. If he's strengthening his quads and get him closer to the balance of his hamstrings.

40:34The quads and the glutes. Yeah. the balance of his hamstrings, he won't, you know, he won't, he won't pull a quads. And, you know, especially like in the first, you know, a couple of weeks of the season, you get a lot of guys with soft tissue injuries and it's just, you know, either imbalance or it's a combination of an imbalance with fatigue, because you got these guys, like I said, you get in the preseason, nobody really plays in the preseason at all. You know what I'm saying? You'd be lucky if you get, you know, 10 snaps in the preseason game now. you didn't get a lot of reps right then you go out there week one and even the reps like you said you get they're not 100 miles an hour and then you go out there week one and you tell your body hey i need you to give me 40 50 reps at 100 miles an hour for sure right like yo what's what's going on and then they wonder why they get these soft tissue injuries and a lot of guys don't train like that anymore you know like you know when i train people are like james why are you sitting up there pushing a you know a 2 000 pound sled i'm putting that tension on my achilles i'm building up to that i'm making sure i'm getting that like i don't start at 2000 i built up to that through the course of you know my training so that when it comes time to actually do that and press on it it's used to it so it's not going to just go and you know give out on them

41:52James Harrison:yep they act like you pushing on them linemen like leaning on them that's 2 000 you trying and get him up off you. That's a lot. That's a lot of weight. Oh, they're thinking about putting him on the temporary hour where you got to be out at least four weeks. What is that? On Kittle? Yeah, yeah. I guess Ian Rappaport reported that Kittle would likely be sidelined three to five weeks. Ooh. You sure he ain't tear that thing?

42:24That's more than just a little strain.

42:26James Harrison:That's definitely more than a strand. That thing off the bone. No, I... Off the bone, Joe. Yeah, man, you trying to get that man all the way out. No, I'm not trying to get him out, bro. They got to retest that, man. That thing can't be off the bone. No, I swear I hope it's not. I want him to be okay. I want him to come back as soon as possible. Oh, no question. But you know, a few weeks with a little hammy. Hey, you ever pulled a hammy? Yes, I did. I did. How long? I was about three weeks. Yeah, three weeks. Yo, so I don't think nobody knows this because I've never told anybody. So when I jumped over LaDainian Towns in San Diego, that was another spot start I got in, was that 2004?

43:22That might have been the same year. I pulled my groin and I didn't miss no time. I just kept playing through it. Divo, you were crazy. Hey, I just got soft tissue work. I got some acupro, I got some dry needling, dude, and I just kept going with it, bro.

43:40James Harrison:I tried that. I played on the strain groin for two weeks, but then my joint actually I had to get surgery on both sports hernias. Both groins. Double sports hernia joints. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That wasn't... You must not have been really doing the care, the soft tissue work with the acne. Bro, I was doing all the crazy work until it happened. And then when it happened, the other one happened. And then the off season. But it was good. Once I got surgery on him, I was solid. Until now, until I retired. Now my left growing acting a little crazy. But I don't need to get from zero to 60 in full speed right now.

44:18James Harrison:So I'm still solid. Dude, I'm trying to tell you, when you retire, listen, bro, I done had more surgeries since that I got done than I did while I was playing, bro. I'm not letting, no, bro, that's why I had to get up out of there when I got up out of there. I started being like, man, if I keep going, I might be a little messed up where I can't run and move the way I want to. So, I mean, it was right around this time. That's why I still got my left groin. My left groin is still not to 100%. Like, I can't do certain stretches. You know what I'm saying? just normal stretches, but I can make it shake.

44:53James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? Like, if I had to play another year, boy, I might need to get another whole surgery for sure in my groin. I felt that same way about my back, dude. And then through the process of actually doing, this is going to sound crazy, dude, doing a food sensitivity allergy test, I ended up finding out, like, I was severely, severely allergic to eggs, not to where I would blow up, but to where my body had. Amazon Health AI presents Painful Thoughts. Why did I search the internet for answers to my cold sore problem? Now I'm stuck down a rabbit hole filled with images of alarmingly graphic sores in various stages of ooze.

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46:49don't miss guns and roses at a inflammatory response yeah so after i uh you did the all cat yes brother i need to work in pairs so after i um And after I did that, you know, my doc had been telling me for a minute, like, yo, my natural, like, you need to stop eating eggs, stop eating eggs, stop eating the eggs. I'm like, dude, that's the only thing I eat. What else I'm going to eat? I'm eating, you know, a dozen and a half eggs a day. So at that point, you know, to get out of bed, dude, you know, after the two back surgeries, I'd be on my, you know, hands and knees, just sitting there warming up and then go hit the shower and then, you know, take off the practice.

47:30and I finally listened and I stopped and within like six months all of a sudden I was popping out of bed dude like popping out of bed just going and I'm like energy so you're not normally

47:43James Harrison:you wasn't normally more than a person eating all them eggs no no no it wasn't I had the energy but it was the the inflammatory response on my back that was killing me where I had to warm up and start getting things moving and get that inflammation out of there. Okay, okay, okay. Oh, I'm going to pop up and rise. I'm a 3 o 'clock dude. Every 3. I get up every day. Well, not every day. What time do you go to sleep, Debo? What time do you go to sleep? If you're waking up at 3, you got to sleep. Hey, I'm telling you right now, it's murdering me with these night games, bro. It's murdering me with these.

48:16Now, I'm getting like two, three hours of sleep, hitting the gym, coming back through, doing everything I need to do. Yeah.

48:24James Harrison:Okay. Yeah, I just some days you for what actually I only need probably like I'm a I used to be a four to six guy. I'm probably more like a five to six guy, but I could function a good week and a half, two weeks on, you know, three to four. So I'm good. It's only a couple of days and then I'll get some sleep. I'll get some sleep tomorrow. So, OK, OK. I'll get to sleep in until five, you know, that's sleeping in. to me. So come Saturday and Sunday, I sleep in until five. Monday through Friday is three o 'clock and it keeps, yeah, it keeps, it keeps going from there, brother. I'm probably, hang on, I'm like, I'm like six o 'clock.

49:04James Harrison:I'm always up at six. I got the kids and everything. So I'm probably up six o 'clock every day. Even, even, even on Saturday, Sunday, Sunday, we got church. So, you know, I'm up at six o 'clock on it, but Saturday I might try to sleep in, but the kids, they don't, They the alarm clock. They going to wake up like, especially on Saturday, they want to act like they want to wake up earlier because they know they don't got school. So they don't care. They might wake up at five. They ready for whatever on Saturday. Man, your kid's young, huh? My kid's a nine. And my boy just turned nine today. And my boy Jet is a six.

49:38Man, my youngest, that dude will get 16 hours if you let him. I promise you, dude. He just sleep king, man. Like he will This dude will come home From school Go to sleep And won't wake up Until he gotta Use the bathroom And if he got homework He'll wake up like Like 5 o 'clock before he gotta go to school To get it done Like this Oh he's sleeping and sleeping Dog this dude sleep sleep Oh that's And then when he don't sleep sleep You could find him, you know, three o 'clock in the morning up there with the headphones on. What are you doing with the headphones on? Man, he playing the damn game. On the sticks?

50:30Okay. Dude, he wanted those, what's the computer games they play, dude? Is he on Fortnite? I don't know, man. Something like that. They got these computers across the arm and the leg.

50:43James Harrison:Tell me about it. My little boy, they just got their iPads right now, so I'm chilling. I still don't got no gamer systems for them. Well, we got the PS5. We just do the 2K, you know what I'm saying, and the Madden. Maybe a little FIFA. Okay. You know what I'm saying? None of the crazy games yet. Gran Turismo, maybe. You know what I'm saying? Car games. My boy, Joey. What's Gran Turismo, dude? Gran Turismo, bro. We got the racing car simulator game with, like, the driver and the gas pedal and the shifters. It's a whole setup? It's a whole setup. You can get a whole setup. I got a whole cage. Like, I'm riding a NASCAR.

51:21James Harrison:Yeah, you got to show me. I'm going to show you that. I'm a driver, you know what I'm saying? I got my CDLs, you know what I'm saying? If y 'all need somebody out there, I got passenger endorsement ridded, so I'm a Class B driver. I can drive to school buses. I was thinking about driving to school buses, you know what I'm saying? Go ahead and tell them kids, sit your ass on down now. I be scared to have you with my bus driver. Hey, listen, for real though, this is what I was thinking about doing. I don't even know if they would have let me, but I wanted to go and be the driver of one of my son's buses one time and had me be right there.

52:05James Harrison:If you got your license, if you got the CDLs. I got CDLs, yeah. I got past your endorsements. All that. Talk to the bus driver. He'll sub you in. Boom. You're going to sell me right in. Boom. Hold it down, D-Bow. I did all that, like in college, dude. I got my CDLs in college. Oh, that's smooth. Yeah. I was a bus driver before. You know, I had set out. Well, I didn't sit out. I didn't have the grades to be eligible. I was a Prop 48. So, you know, well, I don't even know if y 'all had Prop. Then you're a little younger than me. Yeah. When you were Prop, you couldn't do nothing with the team. They didn't pay for your education or nothing.

52:42and you just went to school. Oh, okay. And then I messed that up. So now I had to pay for another year. What did you... And then the coaches changed, bro. Yeah. I ended up walking on at Kent State. With my good man, Josh Cribs, the quarterback. Yes, sir. Well, he came in my senior year.

53:02James Harrison:Josh is a lot younger than me. Okay, Debo. You just putting years on yourself. Right. You a grown man, Debo. You don't care. You look. You look. I told her, I thought you was like 42. Nah, nah, bro. I'm closer to 50 than I am to 40. That's what I'm saying. Closer to my... I'm 36. Closer to what? You started there. Huh? Closer to my dad's age, Debo. I'm not going to lie. I think you might be a little bit closer to my dad's age than me. How old are your dad? 56. How old are you? 36.

53:48James Harrison:Yeah, I think you might be nine years. I think you might be closer to my dad. Hey, man, you need to watch how you talk to your elders now. That's what I've been talking to you with respect this whole time. You show some respect before I call your daddy and tell him go ahead over there and whip your ass, boy.

54:08James Harrison:Oh, dude, you all stupid. You stupid. Oh, man. No, but for real, though, you is a little closer to Pops than me. Probably just about one year. But look, all right. Did your dad turn 57 this year? No, he just turned 56 this year. You turn? I turned 37. When? April 14th. All right. I ain't tripping. All right, look, Debo. So, yeah, you close to my dad to me. We got that established. Let's talk about Russell Wilson. Hey, he's still starting. Definitely. He's still starting. But like you were saying, he getting another week. He getting close to, you know, if he don't do something, he getting close to going ahead and you're going to be sitting back there.

55:06But like you said, Adibo, they don't want to throw out the new man

55:10James Harrison:and just get him beat up because Russell Wilson was running for his life out there. So we don't want to throw out the new guy, Jackson Dart. Who we got? We don't want to throw a new quarterback out there, and then he just starts getting hit just like Russell was. So we want to put Russell out there, the vet, you know what I'm saying, so he can try to just be able to get the line blocking for him because no matter who's back there, if you switch out Russell and put the other guy, he's going to keep getting hit. So at the same time, you don't want to put your rookie quarterback out there in a situation where you know he's not in a position to win.

55:44James Harrison:And at least not this early. It's only game two. Like, let's see what Russell can do with this offense build. Try to get Malik and neighbors into the game. We know what you got there. But protecting the quarterback is thing one. And Russ is a vet. So I wouldn't throw my young dude out there to be getting hit upside the head this early yet. you know you know like russ even you know when he was with the stillers uh last year you know he gets a you know when he get a little unsure he he'd rather he'd rather throw it closer to it being out than it being in especially you know when you got those those you know defenders close to him and it's like a you know one of those sideline throws yeah i yeah i didn't especially as it got deeper into the season, I started noticing that.

56:33Or at least that was my view of it. What was your view of it?

56:41James Harrison:I like the way, I mean, the one thing that Russell was doing that I did, kind of like, at least he was giving the receivers opportunities. I mean, just throw that. He threw some good fade balls to George when he was there. And that's what... Yeah, but it was something that just like, yo, you didn't even give him my opportunity. It's just totally out of bounds. I know, I know, I know. I mean, that was the thing. I mean, normally that's his best pass he throws is the goal ball. And he gives the dude's ops. But I don't know. He was throwing him out of bounds sometimes. It just didn't look Russell-like.

57:09James Harrison:Hopefully he doesn't do that. Like I saw in this game. It didn't look Russell-like. Like I said, Russell is a good dude. But Russell been looking – the Russell that we looking at, he's been looking like that, what, since Denver? Yeah. But like I said too, though, he didn't look too – How are you going to say to man, if you don't have no time to throw the ball, how are you going to grade a man? Hey, no time to throw the ball. Look at Aaron Rodgers. He was getting that thing out of there. Very little time to throw the ball. He made decisive decisions. Got the ball out when he needed to. Good play calling.

57:49James Harrison:Play calling. Yeah. Put our people in a position to win. Can we give Russell some options where he can get it out faster? We got deep routes. is he not getting it out faster or is he just holding on to it for fear of it being a pick because he's unsure could be both could be both there's two ways to skin a cat that's for sure but I mean to say I mean he's a veteran quarterback like if nothing else you should be able to just see it and get it done I think right now they're going to least they're going to keep him in there give him another shot to do better before they put dart in there because they put dart in there right now i don't i don't i don't i'm gonna be honest dude i don't see him putting dart in there until like they done they done went at least i'm with you like threefold deep like you can't like you said he's he's being pressured your your rookie quarterback is not going to make more decisive decisions unless he is you know actually a better The action maker can see it better, is more decisive with it.

59:01But, you know, you start getting into games where you got these D coordinators, you get this rookie in here. And what's the first thing they do? You start throwing everything at, you know, everything in the kitchen sink to confuse them. You know, you disguise it. You know, you're going to do different things. Like when, you know, Coach LeBeau, we would play a rookie quarterback, dude. oh, our disguise game is on point, and you're trying to confuse him, you know, every which way. No, I get that.

59:29James Harrison:I get that. But at the same, I mean, Jackson Dart, he could be better. Like, he didn't look bad. I mean, obviously, it's the preseason, but he was throwing the ball. He's getting it out of his hands fast. They picked him before. He was a hot—what was it? First—what round did Dart go in? Was it first round? I think it might have been the first round. Yeah. So he was definitely went before Shador. So they seen something in him. Yeah, but I just not too big on the Giants. So it's kind of like, I mean, Darts back there, Wilson's back there. It's going to hopefully they, hopefully they can. Is the head coach new in New York, in Giants?

1:00:08Is it Debo? Brian?

1:00:12James Harrison:Coach Debo. I don't know. I don't know him by. He was my, he was a coach for me. I think he was offensive coordinator for the Browns when I was there in Cleveland. Yeah. So he drafted – well, yeah, obviously he drafted Dark. Listen, at some point, everybody going to start having to think about, you know, making sure they protecting their job and the decisions that they made in drafting this person. The first rounder is supposed to come in and contribute to the team that year, right? That's why you put them first. I think quarterbacks are a little tricky I understand that Any other position besides the quarterback They're supposed to be instant, starter, baller And the quarterback, even if he's not ready You're projecting if you draft him in the first round That he's going to be a franchise quarterback That's what I'm expecting If I draft a quarterback in the first round I don't know, I'm thinking I think he might get a crash course, so to speak Yeah, it might have to happen for sure.

1:01:18James Harrison:Because if Russell keep getting hit like this, I was looking on Instagram. I'm going to pull up some clips. When they show, they want Dark to start because they just had free runs at him a couple of times. Okay. I don't like it.

1:01:40Yo, before we go out of here, we got our first super chat joe what's super chat big old head donate bag bag on head donated five dollars and said james i was at the dolphins game in 2007 the field was horrible i think john beck played quarterback for miami score was three to nothing stillers right that sound right that does sound right that good man there we go what's his name I think that was Bag on Head donated that's just I guess that must be his his chat name his chat name is just Bag on Head why you Bag on Head man you a Browns fan oh I hope shots fired you can't call me you don't think I ain't gonna shoot back call me you don't think I ain't gonna shoot back mmhmm No, no, no.

1:02:42My mama's son. Yo, can we tell you a way to play that?

1:02:49Man. Daddy, Uncle John donated$2 and said, fellas, Steelers just signed Julian Jabba Peppers. No, they didn't. Did they? Jabril Peppers, they signed him?

1:03:05James Harrison:Are you serious? Oh, that's nice. I played with Jabril in Cleveland when he got drafted there. That's a football player. Yeah, but where does he play? That's the big thing. Like, where? It don't matter. I mean, like, we can have him at safety. We can have him at safety or slot nickel or either strong, whatever, whatever opposite where Jalen's at, slot him down. He could blitz. Nickel back or safety. Nickel safety.

1:03:39James Harrison:Nickel safety for sure. Nickel safety. I say safety. I don't know about nickel. Only reason I say nickel, he can cover tight ends and he can blitz. He's a tackler. Like the way we use Mike Hilton. Steelers use Jabril like Mike Hilton. That would be nice. He's tackling, bro. That's the one thing. Like, we need some people that's in that joint filling up some of these holes. Hey, man, you know Bag on Head, he a Dolphins fan, bro. And he donated, bro. He donated five, dude. We can't, you know. I mean, everybody got their faults, you know. I mean, Dolphins fan. I'm here for it. Yeah. It's okay. You know what I'm saying?

1:04:25Appreciate it. I appreciate the information, though. I think that was a 3-0 game.

1:04:31James Harrison:Or was it 3-6? I got one. Somebody got to check that out. Somebody got to check that out. But I got one. I got something I want to talk about. Oh, hold on. What time we got? Oh, it's 12-1-1. I got it. Last one. NBA MVP, Shage Gilders-Alexander, says that there's no way he could play in the NFL. Which NBA players do you think could play in the NFL and vice versa? Who do you think, James?

1:05:00You know what, man? I would want to say that somebody could, but they so tall, man, you're going to get cut down.

1:05:10James Harrison:Only reason why I'm saying is like, I think, so say, but say six, how tall is the, how tall was Jimmy Graham? Tight end when he was playing for the Saints. He was like 6 '7", 6 '6", 7". Okay, okay. So I'm looking at you put Braun at tight end at 6 '8", 260. I don't know. Like, you know what I'm saying? Megatron was 6 '5", 250. Like, and then just depending on... Okay. I think Braun could do it for sure. I think maybe Anthony Edwards might be able to do it and play safety or something. Because I just like his aggressiveness. If Derrick Rose played football, I think Derrick Rose might have been able to do it.

1:05:53James Harrison:I know AI would have been able to do it. Yeah, he did it. He did it. He was number one in both. He could have just went either way. Yeah, he went the right way, though. Yeah. And then with basketball, who do I see that could play in the NBA that plays in the NFL? Maybe. See, that's going to be the tough part. Because we're going to need like a. They're tall. So we're going to need somebody that's like a. why, like, somebody like, can Calvin play shooting guard? You know what I'm saying? 6 '5", 250, but then he has to be good at basketball. Hey, it's probably a quarterback. It's going to be a quarterback.

1:06:32To run the one? I don't know what they're going to run, but it's going to have to be a quarterback because these quarterbacks actually be good at shooting the ball because they, I'm just telling you, like, you ever seen Ben play basketball? Yeah, he can shoot. He got a tray ball. Yeah, he got a tray ball. He got a tray ball. Yeah. And you know who else, dude? I take it back. Kiesel, dude. Brett Kiesel, young Brett Kiesel. Man, I think Brett Kiesel was a McDonald's All-American back in the day in high school.

1:06:58James Harrison:Terrell Pryor. Okay. Terrell Pryor. You know what? I ain't going to lie. I ain't going to throw my... You know what? No. No. You going to throw yourself in there? I'm going to throw my hat in the bucket. No, no, no. Don't do that. Yeah, bro. You know who I'm guarding? You know what? look at, I'm going to be out that thing like Hey man, we want to thank y 'all guys for joining us because Joe about to sit here and tell us some lies man. Thank you guys for joining us on this episode of Debo and Joe man. Hit the like button and subscribe Don't want to miss nothing man.

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Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to Monday Night Football which saw 2nd-year QB JJ McCarthy lead a stunning comeback vs. Caleb Williams and the Chicago Bears. Later, they react to Shedeur Sanders being top 5 in jersey sales despite being inactive, New York Giants coach Brian Daboll sticking with Russell Wilson, and much more!

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00:00 - Deebo's parenting story

18:22 - Vikings beat Bears

29:02 - John Harbaugh's blown leads

33:00 - Fan who his Lamar Jackson banned

35:26 - Injury stories

49:08 - Should Russell Wilson be benched?

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