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25:36James Harrison:And then, you know, maybe. I'm saying I would have handled the situation probably differently. But Miles, like we said, he rolled into the beat of his own drum. He's under contract. He knows what it is. He knows he's missing the millie. And if he's in your mindset, I'm not going to come out there. I'm staying here. I'm going to be able to get right, get all of my training, my treatment. It's not worth that mill. When I come back out there, I'll be ready to go. That's not how I would do it. But you're saying he's not getting the work that he would need to out there to take care of his body better where he's at.

26:07I hear you, but that's not what I would do.

26:10James Harrison:Okay, I understand. I understand what you're saying. Also, old Todd, Todd Munkin, he didn't like the fact that the quarterbacks had some interceptions in 7-on-7. Hey, Joe, we got a little sound for that. Yeah. Okay. Can you play that sound? We threw interceptions in 7-on-7, for God's sakes. I mean, who does that? There's no pass rush. I mean, it's embarrassing. Let's see.

26:41James Harrison:Joe, hey, hey, it ain't sounding too good over there right now. Joe, what's going on over there, man? He sound a little upset, man. Look, he's coaching up. He's coaching up. There's routes on there. That's how offense, seven on seven is for the offense. The same way one-on-ones is for the offense. You should not be, if you're a really good offensive team, you shouldn't be throwing picks in seven on seven. When I see, then you got to go back and you got to look at the routes. I want to see whose fault is it. When I seen the interception that Shador threw, I saw it was a corner route and a cover two.

27:13James Harrison:Oh, Shador threw an interception. Shador threw one and Dylan Gabriel threw one. So there was two quarterbacks that threw him in the 7-on-7 with Shador threw one and Dylan threw one. So I got to go back. I need to see that. Watson didn't throw a pick. He didn't throw a pick. This is practice, though, Debo. So we're talking to two quarterbacks, not everybody. Not everybody. Because when you bring it up, you talk about the pass, the interceptions in seven on seven and the, you know, people that got intercepted was two quarterbacks did, two quarterbacks didn't. I mean, without you having to call the name, you know, you're saying, hey, this is unacceptable.

27:55James Harrison:And, you know, ain't no pass rush there, you know, really ain't nothing that could have gotten your way other than your misinterpretation of what you were looking at. maybe route running as you said or misplacement of the ball

28:15James Harrison:he's coaching Debo it's practice coaches evaluate practice how many how many people listen Joe how many people how many head coaches have said I was upset about past interceptions and seven on seven to the media. I think a lot more coaches are saying it, but people just won't take it as serious because we're going through a quarterback competition and he's a new coach, and that's just something to talk about. It's practice, Debo. You know things happen in practice all the time. We're picking people off in practice all the time. So, like, practice is practice. It's where you go to try stuff. It's where you go to try to get better.

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32:01James Harrison:Practice makes perfect. You can't, but perfect practice makes perfect. But there is things where each practice is getting evaluated at a microscope. Each throw, each thing. So when I'm looking at this pass, it might have been a little bit late, and I'm looking at Judy, the route, come back to the ball. It's looking like he's just standing there waiting for the ball to come to you, but you got to come back, drive back downhill to the ball. I didn't see Dylan Gabriel's interception, but I only was able to see the Shador one. So when I'm just looking back at the plays, there's reasons, there's causing effects for everything.

32:30James Harrison:Every interception isn't made the same. Every tipped ball, it could have been a tip. You know what I'm saying? It was tipped, and then it was picked because I seen with Judy, come back to the ball. Somebody else's DB was able to come make a play, tip the ball into the air, and it gets picked off. So when you're looking back at it, it's like, okay, how are we working in this? Does the quarterback need to throw the ball a little bit earlier? Look like he might have been standing there for a second. Does the receiver need to drive back down to the ball? There's all different causes and effects for all this stuff.

32:56James Harrison:But when coach is coaching it up, boom, like that's a legitimate evaluation. You shouldn't be throwing picks in seven on seven. Our quarterback needs to get the ball out earlier, or our receiver needs to be coming back down, coming back downhill. These are just things that coaches are coaching and that's tape that they're going to watch and evaluate. So, like, every single snap, I got the plays when you're doing, like, in training camps, good on good. You're getting – things will happen. You're going to get beat. Like, it is what it is, and that doesn't make – doesn't mean I'm a bad corner because somebody hit me up on a play.

33:27James Harrison:No, that means they won that rep. Next rep, you know what I'm saying, do better, line it back up. So when you do do good plays, they get evaluated. Everybody's looking at, oh, yeah, that's great. When you do one bad play, everybody's saying everything about it. So I just think it's coaching stuff up and seeing what he sees. Joe, don't let me, you know, I read into everything, Joe. You know me. I know you read into it and trying to make it all negative. Stop, Joe. Stop, Joe. Let me talk. But my things make sense. They have reasoning behind it. And I'm starting to get some reasoning in my head on this.

34:03James Harrison:Okay, let me hear it. You know, I'm just going back to what they, you know, what was said by, what was it, Breer? A while ago. Yeah. Albert Breer, a while ago about, you know, him kind of liking Watson a little more supposedly. So now you go to this. And like I said, I've never heard a coach talk about being upset about throwing interceptions in seven on seven and actually just speaking it straight out to the media when you're already in a quarterback controversy. So would that be in the case with his supposed liking of Watson and his abilities to play offensive schemes that he's had and done and been successful at?

35:01James Harrison:I think this could have been maybe a little bit of a shock at saying, look, interception, interception, but it's not him. is them is helping you and everybody else out here give a public opinion about who they feel it should or shouldn't be to go along with who he probably already wants it to be. I'm just saying, Joe.

35:37James Harrison:That's all I was saying. What do you think of that, Joe? Joe, you mute it? No, I'm not muted. I'm just trying to listen to what you're saying. I hear you. I think coach, yeah, I mean, it is what it is. It was bad. Like, if dudes are throwing interceptions in the practice, then he's just reporting the news. And they asked him about the defense. Like, do you think the defense was creating the plays? He's like, look, it's a seven on seven. We shouldn't be throwing picks. So, I mean, yeah, you could say that. you can say that i mean he's just reporting the news i mean that's a little that's a little that's a little not true you just know you're not just reporting the news you're you're reporting to the reporters that are reporting out the information to the fans that you want to be heard because if you didn't say it they wouldn't have knew it outright out of your mouth yes you know what i'm

36:47James Harrison:little spin, I would say, on the topic of where you're trying to maybe get people to lean, Joe. Oh, for sure. You're right. You're right. It's given Todd Munkin is definitely in favor of Watson a little bit because he didn't, Watson didn't throw a pick. He didn't throw a pick. Shador did. But what do you know of any other practices? Has he thrown a pick at all this minicamp or OTAs? We don't know. We don't know. But if he has, and you can find that information out, it would be very suspicious that he would talk about it now. It's early OTAs. Hey, I'm just saying. It was brought out to the public.

37:37James Harrison:All right? Yes. That's all I'm saying, Joe. I'm going to go over here to the Steelers, man. Aaron Rodgers said he will retire after the 2026 season. My man said this is it. He said this is it. That's it. Ain't no coming back. Ain't no coming back. Ain't no coming back. I like it. He has a 2.5. The 2.5 million in incentives in his contract with the Steelers now is he He must play 75 % of the regular season snaps, and then he can earn the following. $625 ,000 for every playoff win, wild card win, divisional, AFC, Super Bowl. Joe. Yes. I hate to say it, but he ain't going to get all this. He's not going to get all this, bro.

38:38James Harrison:He ain't going to get no more than about 1-8-7-5 because when you're number one, you don't play to the divisional round. You know? Uh-huh. So he'll get 1-8-7-5 when it's all said and done. Walk off into the sunset, Super Bowl champion, you know? Uh-huh. That's what you think is going to go down. Look, I'm excited because... Hey, listen, listen. You are so gone. You are so down in the dumps. They got you so depressed and so... Yeah, I am. I'm messed up. I ain't going to lie to you. Go down bad. I ain't going to lie to you. That you can't even be excited about a team you said was at least a 1B. Look, my whole mood this morning, I ain't going to lie to you.

39:31James Harrison:I know what Joe is. I was literally... Literally. Misery love company, Joe. You want me to be down with you? I've been sad when we lost that first game. And it's the fan. I never, I was able to get over games way easier when I was playing in it. But now it's like I don't have no control. So that hurt. It really, really hurt. I want us to be up. We lost two. And I knew you was going to come in here talking crazy. Then we got the Browns. It's just, I love my Browns. But we're going to be talking about everything that's not a quarterback. You got your head coach talking about it. about your players out in the public.

40:06James Harrison:Look at you. You got your star player showing up. Yes. Yes. So I knew it was all. I'm sorry if the energy is down. It's just you just beating me up today, T-Po. Hey, Chad. I told y 'all. Hey, listen. Joe coming out. He was trying to hide his colors. He was trying to hide his colors. I know his colors is brown and orange. I know it is. He want to claim black and gold, but I know it's brown and orange. I'm going to cut him next time to see if he bleeds some brown and orange. All right, man. Listen, D-Ball, I was just being honest with you, man. You had me. I was hurting today. Honestly, I was like, man, I really don't want to show up because I know he's going to fire me up.

40:49James Harrison:He's going to sit there and look. Joe, you didn't even come on until two minutes before we was about to go on. Joe, what's going on? I know. Like crazy. It was crazy and I knew what it was. I didn't have nothing that I wanted to talk to you about, Debo, except for when we got to the Steelers. I was ready to get to this part. That whole first part of the show just now, I didn't want to talk about any of that. That was not none of my doing at all. You just sitting there, couldn't wait. You skipping stuff around, you moving stuff around in the show just so you could get on me. Joe, I didn't know what happened.

41:25James Harrison:I thought, Joe, listen, Joe, I thought it was 1-1. That's all it was. And I come to find out right here from you. You're lying, though. I saw a blue of 22-point lead. Debo, Debo, that was what you were planning on that entrance the whole show. I felt it. I was like, he got something. And he was like, oh, no, Joe. I'm like, you saw the game. I know you saw the game. I know you did. I came to see. It's so, is my vision bad? I'm old. I couldn't see. I was listening to it, and then I went to bed. All right, you know what? I was listening to Aaron retiring and all that, and then I'm like, I don't know.

42:05James Harrison:I don't know, Joe. You know I'm getting old. It was tough. This weekend really was a not good, you know what I'm saying, sports weekend for me. My wife was like, you're just not, like, you're a little grumpy. I said, I am. I'm sorry. I'm just not in a good mood right now. Bruh, that's not bad. I know it's bad. I know, I know, I know. I'm a soul. Man, listen, man. I know. I know. I don't like it. I don't like that. That's not me. I'm not a mad person. Hey, man. I'm a really glad person. I know you was thinking about moving back to Cleveland, but now ain't the time, bro. I'm not moving back. I'm chilling right now.

42:41James Harrison:But I'm definitely going to game. I'm definitely going to game four. I'm going to be out there on Monday. Hey, man. Maybe you could like. For my boys, man. Don't y 'all got a team over there? They got bullets or something? Washington Bullets, right? Something like that? The Wizards. The Wizards. The Wizards out here, D.C. Yeah, we just got the number one pick. We're going to get AJ from BYU. Here you go with this weed shit, Joe. Where are you? I live in D.C. I mean, I live in Virginia. So you say the team that's right up the street, it's the Wizards. They're going to get the bonzer. All right, that's they.

43:16James Harrison:You French. They're going to get the bonzer. You French. They're going to get the bonzer. You got crunch in your blood. I'm just going to go watch. We need to check your DNA heritage. You French because it's a whole lot of weed. okay no all right you know what we know you're right i'm gonna stop i'm gonna stop saying we because i'm not with them exactly they're up the street so the wizards are going to get aj the bonza and he's up the street so i would love to go watch him play so that means him being close i can get to go watch the wizards play support for the show comes from public the investing platform for those who take it seriously on public you can build a multi-asset portfolio of stocks bonds, options, crypto, and now generated assets, which allow you to turn any idea into an investable index with AI.

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46:56James Harrison:You got a TV, don't you, Joe? You got plenty of TV. I like watching the basketball. Basketball courtside is the best place you could ever see the talent. Yo, I'm going to tell you the best place you could ever see any sports game. TV. It's at home. And your TV on your couch and your lazy boy laid back with your feet up. I hear you. Let me bring you to it. Temperature perfect. I would say football, your father. I mean, football, I like football at my house. Comfortable. I can got my TV. Basketball, the same, but basketball courtside at the event, being there, Debo, that's the best live event I've been to.

47:35James Harrison:NBA games courtside, 1 ,000%. You right there. You right there. You got to be spiked out. Listen, I'm going to have to. Other than the TV, you're 1 ,000 % right. But you spiked out. You right there seeing, like, real ball is move like that. I'm like, yeah, that's NBA. Dump. all that i'm like okay yes he's yes he's six foot eight okay he is i understand i understand i understand joe but i'm just saying like we're talking we know we're talking about talking about a rod and a rod are we we store run to the end that's gonna be a super bowl championship finishing at the end i'm sorry he only go get 1.875 million because we will not be playing week one we won't be playing to the divisional game so you know we're gonna have a bye okay so So you're just saying that that's not even possible.

48:26James Harrison:If they skip the wild card, he don't need to. I mean, worst case scenario, it could get possible, and we have to play in the wild card because we are two. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. But if they skip the wild card game and he don't play in it just because we go to the divisional round, then that's just, that's not LeVoy. Right. Right. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. You know what I'm saying? Now, he don't. All right. He getting the two-foughty. He getting the two-foughty. So. All I know is. And maybe they may just go ahead and put it in there as a bonus. Retirement gift. Another 625. Thank you for seven. All I know is this is what I'm talking about.

49:08James Harrison:It's no gray area, Debo. It's no willy-nilly. This is what it is. Last year, A-Rod, he's here. He's showing up to the optional stuff. We were talking about my boys not there. A-Rod's here now. He's here earlier than he was last year for training camp. We got all of the talent on the team. We got the receivers. We got the running back. We went and got the D-backs. We went and got everything that we need. And A-Rod, and for Cam, and for Ramsey, and for Highsmith, for the older dudes on the team, they know it's their final hurrah too. T.J. Watt, it's their final hurrah. Not in the way of like when the young dudes start getting in, when Will Howard starts getting this shot, when Drew Isler, that's when you know.

49:53James Harrison:It is what it is. It could get, you don't know how it's going to get. Like, the quarterback position is something that's going to be up in the air. But right now, with A-Rod knowing, saying this is it, this is my final hurrah, he's in with McCarthy. Our man Omar been doing everything he had to do to build the team. Not to rebuild, but just get talent. Get as much as you can. You got your old, you're not, we're not trading TJ. We're not getting rid of high school. We're going to make sure we can figure this thing out. And it's going to be the hurrah. We got the quarterback. We have a Hall of Fame quarterback.

50:22James Harrison:He came out here last year, 3 ,300 yards, 24 touchdowns, seven picks. We were dunking and dunking. You know what I'm saying? It wasn't offensive. It wasn't going as, that's not terrible. That's not special. But I think with being able to get more talent around, being able to get that consistent running game, and knowing what we need to get done, knowing on the outside, we got to be able to take more shots. We got to hit on those. But that's going to happen when the run game is gone. When Jalen Warren are really coming downhill, when we're establishing a line of scrimmage, where, you know what I'm saying, we're coming down, it's short third downs, it's third and three.

50:59James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? We're working with second and fours, where we're not behind the sticks. So I love A-Rod being able to be like, now, okay, boom. It is what it is. You're all in. We got you. All in. We got you. You know this is it. You want to leave on a high note. When you were in New York, you got hurt. It didn't go as quite well. last season. We still won the division. We still went to the playoffs. It didn't end up going the way that we wanted it to go. You know what I'm saying? Like defense. There was gaps. Offense. We weren't hitting on the deep wall. We were checking the ball down.

51:31James Harrison:We have all that gap stuff cleaned up on defense side. We want to get now with A-Rod saying that he's going to be here for this whole season. 22 mil with these incentives. Playoff incentives. You got to play 75 % of the games. This is your final hurrah. We're in with you. Watt, Cam, the boys, Pitch, and DK. Everybody knows what it is. He can't wait to get to Latrobe. So all I'm going to say is with this, I'm rocking. I'm loving what Aaron Rodgers is like, because in my heart of hearts, I love Aaron. At the door of the football, he's one of the best to ever do it. I don't care what anybody says.

52:06James Harrison:He can spin the rock. So now we just got him in a Joe Flacco type role where just make the passes that you got to. Don't turn the ball over and, you know what I'm saying, control the offense. A-Rock can do that. A-Rock can 1 ,000 % do that. And then if you try to get special, make some throws because that's what you do. You can still spin the rock. Your arm isn't going nowhere. It's your mobility. I don't know how fast you're going to be able to move. Arm is changing a little bit, but, you know, everybody's changing a little bit. He can make the throws. He can make them. He can make them. So I'm rocking.

52:36James Harrison:Yeah, for sure. Mike McCarthy, he said the Steelers have four quarterbacks. that we love that we love you do that a lot too i'm gonna tell you right now yeah that's he's not like he's not like word i'm not listen man words words words so so so words mean things and it's two it's two words that i think people use a lot and they don't correct their cell phone or at least even when i use them i try and stop myself if i don't really mean it and correct myself. It's love and hate. If I love something, dude, that is a... You don't just throw around the love. No, man. You can't throw around love, man.

53:22James Harrison:What the Bible say, it's with three different forms of love. You got what is it? Agape, which is the God love. That's the unconditional love. That's the love. Hell, that's the only love you ever go give to is your kids. You know, it don't matter what they do, how bad they mess up and everything. You always go love me. Nothing going to stop you from loving me. And then you got the, what is it? Philly. It's like a, it's a filejo. It's like, it's for the word for Philly, like brotherly love. So it's brotherly love. Like, it's like, you know, it's an affectionate love for, you know, like relationships.

54:04James Harrison:For your brother. Yeah. And then you got Eros, which is like, you know, you and your wife. Okay. Yes, yes, yes, yes. So, like, when you use those words, they like mean things. But get back to my point is stop using words like love when it could be just like. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, because you, I love him. He the spinner of the ball. And I'll be in my head and I'll just be like, ugh, ugh. Like, it just, I don't know why I do it. It just irks me. And then when I say I like hate, like if I hate you, hate is a very, very, very strong word. If I hate you, like I'm willing to do something that is just out of character.

54:44James Harrison:Well, it used to be out of my character now. Yeah. But before, if I hated you, I was willing to do anything to make you not exist. Okay. That's how strong the hate word is. So to use the hate is a very, very strong word. So hate and love. Those are the two words that I tell my kids. It's like, yo, they mean things. Like, oh, I just love the color blue. I just love the rainbow. I just love all this. They love everything. You know what I'm saying? You like it. Right. You like it. You got an extreme right for it, maybe. Maybe you like it a whole bunch. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I like it a lot.

55:20James Harrison:Yeah, to give it more oomph, they want to throw love into it. Yes. You know what I'm saying? Or hate. You know what I'm saying? Nah, they can't do that. So I think what he's saying here is that they like the quarterbacks. Yeah. More like what we got. Mike McCarthy's happy with the QBs that he has. Yeah. Yeah. He said, I guess his words were, they definitely, we definitely got four that we love. I can say that. We always have to develop the room. there's always been that's always been my approach we're hoping that omar can get the roster expanded to 55 and we can keep four it's a really good room this is a good place to be having four guys that can play joe do you think keeping four quarterbacks is a good thing or no No.

56:21Okay.

56:22James Harrison:No. I'm a three quarterback kind of guy, you know, and if it gets down to it and maybe if you got to let one go and then hopefully they can sign them to practice squad. But having four quarterbacks on the roster is crazy to me. It's just taken up too many spots. You could be using another tight end. You could be using another running back. You can use another linebacker, another corner, somebody that's actually literally a legitimate piece of special teams and offense. Yes. You know what I'm saying? And able to do special teams. Brother, that's a real, that's a four-phase. Office and defense. Yeah, you need all that.

56:57James Harrison:That's a four-phase kind of guy that's, like, really out there making plays for you. So, to just have that on the roster for no, I just, it doesn't make sense to me. Because you need a quarterback for sure. Well, I'm telling you, they believe it. Three, solid. Four, you're tripping. Yeah. Yeah. You know what? Now thinking about it, go back. Aaron's last year. This is the year. Maybe they're trying to just hold on to all three and the possibility of having them all three for next year and then seeing what they could do in the draft because we're going to be the last pick in the first year. With the plans, you got going.

57:34James Harrison:Yeah, yeah, with the plans I got going on, baby. It ain't like you could put one of them on the practice squad. You put either one of them rookies on the practice squad, somebody go grab them. If that's the man, winning the Super Bowl, I'm not tripping if it was three or four of them. it dipped in. Hey. But they got the goat. When they got the goat? Come on, man. You keep all of them, whatever you want to do. For the Super Bowl, yeah, yeah, yeah. We can figure it out. Will's good. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, we figure it out. Will and Drew, we'll see what's going on. A-Rod's farewell tour.

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