Deebo & Joe - Part 1: Big Ben Talks Steelers Offseason, Aaron Rodgers' Future, Favorite Teammates

22:25But again, you like the physical play. So I think you're willing to take some of that with the with the physicality. Would you and then you end up getting the new players? Would you what would you do with Ramsey? Would you put him back in corner or would you put him in the slot?

22:37James Harrison:No, slot, and I would have him at free or slot. So he's still going to be able to guard tight ends now because the speed isn't there at corner. At the outside, you've got to be young. You've still got to be able to run. I think when you talk about the handsy part with Joey Porter Jr., I think that's still with the game still being a little fast. The slower it slows down, he's using straight athletic ability. When he knows what's going on, he's going to be able to come out of the huddle. Okay, we got man. Now he's reading. He's over split. You know what I'm saying? He's like, okay, boom, boom. He's going to run a slant.

23:10James Harrison:Like film study, I think is going to be a really, really big thing for him now to make his next level of his game. Because he's just been doing this. But like last year, he wasn't as handsy. He's being a lot less grabby. He's learning. He's knowing just getting in his bag, getting a lot more comfortable out there. So I think him getting his feet wet, knowing I can stay with these dudes. I can play him. I was guarding him, not knowing what's going on. He's doing one-on-ones just versus the best receivers out there and holding his own. So when you start being comfortable, knowing what's going on, coming out the huddle, you and your safety communicating, y 'all know what the play is happening.

23:42James Harrison:I think he's going to be a lot more comfortable. So I think he's going to be I think he'd be good to go. Yeah, I like Ramsey in the slot, too, as a quarterback. He makes me more nervous in the slot. I mean, he's making me nervous anyway. You've got to know where he is. But in the slot, because of his his mind. right yes yes when you're when you're in the in the slot it's all about your mind and we talked about you know when i was when i was here in dv2 and you know deshae townsend right deshae was an outside corner good corner and then they moved him inside and he was so good in that nickel slot um and i also like him in there because i think you can blitz him more i love when ramsey blitz is i love him stopping the run you know you can put him on a tight end and say okay this tight end is not touching the ball you know i don't want that tight end to touch the ball yes all right you got him and then you go one for one take him out you can put jpj on their best receiver you can go one for one cancel those two guys that you know their best tight end their best receiver cancel them out and just play ball from there yep yeah i'm 100 on that i like that plus the pickup with uh the safety brisker that's yeah yeah yeah that's that's another good pickup but i guess stiller fans they trying to decipher what uh michael pitman jr has said in a little interview, I guess the appearance he did on the show, talking about Aaron Rodgers.

24:59James Harrison:He said, so I'm trying to give him his space, you know, because Aaron's a guy that likes his space. I don't want to just get signed and then blow him up like, hey, Aaron, like, what's the deal? But, you know, I just give him his time, you know, him and his wife, like, they got to handle some things. And then, like, he will decide if he wants to come back or not. And he continued to say, but the fact that he's still out doing flag stuff i think he wants to play like just knowing aaron prior to this i just think he's going to try to try and play as long as he can um man what do you think of the whole aaron rogers situation do you think we should wait on him do you think we should go and say you know what let's run and see what will can do and then see what happens from there And if it doesn't work out next year, we look at getting a quarterback.

25:55James Harrison:Like, what's your thoughts on the whole quarterback situation? Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of there's a lot of factors, a lot of layers involved with with this whole thing. You know, I I would think and hope that Aaron would give a decision by the draft. Not that it not that it's going to change anything in the sense that I don't think the Steelers should draft a quarterback early in this draft by any means. If you want to try and grab one in the fourth round or somewhere just to add someone, here's something that I would consider that happened recently. Josh Dobbs just got released by New England.

26:28I would strongly – if Aaron – again, this is all about Aaron. If Aaron is not coming back, I would love to bring a veteran guy in like Dobbs who's been here. Obviously, new system, not the same coaching staff, but bring a veteran guy in because I'm a big Will Howard fan. I would love to give Will Howard a chance. I think he's a guy that's a proven winner in college. Yes. I think that he can come here and do it. And I think if you – I've been very adamant on my show and talking about, like, I think it's important. So many teams nowadays, they get a quarterback and they try and build around their quarterback.

26:57I think that's backwards. I think you should build a team and plug a quarterback into it. Yes. Because then if the quarterback doesn't work – I mean, look at Kyler Murray, number one overall pick. He didn't even last through – I mean, there's a lot of guys. I know we're just – I'm using him because that's the most recent news.

27:12James Harrison:Yeah, it's all the time. But if you build a team and you put Will Howard into it, well, if it doesn't work, we'll go draft a guy. Put him into it. You have a team. I was blessed to come to a team that was already established. Veteran line, veteran offense, veteran defense, great defense. And it really was just about let's plug a quarterback in. And I was able to get plugged in and play. And so, again, I know I just gave you all a bunch, but I think that Aaron – I think deep down I feel like Aaron's going to play. I mean, they're surrounding him. They're giving them some great weapons. I think the McCarthy factor, I know there's been some reports of them like button heads in the past, but I think they've made up.

27:52So I don't know the true there, but what's going on there. But deep down, I feel like Aaron's going to come back. I would hope that he would let them know by the draft just for the simple fact that if you want to grab a guy late round. But anytime you can have a Hall of Fame guy on your team, I think it's important for the leadership and for what he can do. You saw times last year when he kind of just took over, it felt like. Like, you know what? This is – listen, here we go. Let me call this, blah, blah, blah. And it felt like they were driving and doing things. So just with his familiarity with this offense, I feel like it's a smart thing to do.

28:25And if not, I would absolutely rise Will Howard. If Aaron comes out today or tomorrow or whatever and says, I'm retiring, I can't see him playing anywhere else. Let's say that. I think it's here or nowhere. But if he decides, hey, I'm done, I'm going to go do my thing, whatever, I would absolutely still not draft a guy in the first round. I would ride with Will Howard for a couple of years, give him a chance, keep building this team around him. I think the line, I would go line first, O-line first in the draft, get a line to just get a guard and interior guy. And I would just absolutely build this team around Will Howard right now.

28:56And if it doesn't work, guess what? In two years, the draft is loaded with quarterbacks. Go get a guy in the first round because it didn't work with Will. You're probably going to be drafting higher.

29:05James Harrison:Yeah, that was going to be my next question. Put your GM head coach hat on. And who are you getting with the first round pick? Who would be your target? Do you have somebody in mind? Do you know of someone you said you would go offensive line? Do you have somebody in mind? I don't – listen, I can't tell. I don't study enough to know which guy you are. Okay, yeah, that's all I was wondering. So you're definitely going O-line, though. I would. I would absolutely go O-line. I don't think you can ever have enough O-linemen. Like, it's just too valuable because when a guy goes down, if you lose that if you lose like a a legit guy you've got to be able to plug him in and not just a plug and play guy what if it's for the season what if it's you know you've got to have a guy and so i think that there's there's two philosophies when you go if i have my gm coach hat on there's two philosophies in the draft okay if i know like if i'm the gm of this team i'm saying i want o-line and i'm gonna pick a lineman at the 21st pick i'm taking the best line i don't care if he's a center and you have a great center if he's a i don't care what it is i'm taking the best guy because you can move things around yes like right now right what's going on broderick jones there's been reports of him maybe not coming back the injury's a little worse so people would say okay right left tackle we got to get left tackle no get the best lineman available don't don't go out on a limb with the left tackle that you think get the best lineman and move things around now the second thing is always i think that there's a board right your board says okay we're going line first and then there's always that best available category like so so what if like what if the best available at 21 all of a sudden you're you're number five best available for whatever reason is like a corner or something you know it's like i'm just trying to think of like a position you don't necessarily need you have to you have to take a strong look like man that's we have him as the fifth best available we we got it we might have to consider but it It'd have to be like a really high best available, not like our 15th best available guy is an outside linebacker.

31:01I'm like, well, we don't need that. We got four outside backers. Let's go line. So I'm going line first, and I would consider going receiver in the second round, personally.

31:09James Harrison:I ain't going to lie, man. I think I would go line, line first. And you wouldn't be wrong. You wouldn't be wrong. I think I would be with you. I think I would go line receiver. I think I would go line receiver. The other thing is you've got a lot of draft capital, right? You've got a lot of picks. You've got, I think, two-thirds. Again, I don't know what we've given up with some of this stuff going on, but there's a lot of picks available, and maybe you could get rid of some stuff and get two second-rounders. I don't know. There's a lot of things that could happen. But line-line is not a bad move either, ever.

31:40James Harrison:Yeah, I just feel like we can get better value at the O-line with those first two picks that we have as far as talent than we would, you know, going after a receiver that made it all the way down to the second round, especially what we just, you know, the receivers we have and what we just signed. Yeah. I like the way you went about Aaron Rodgers and Will Howard. I feel the same exact way. If Aaron Rodgers does want to come back, I would like for him to give us his decision as early as possible just so the organization could do what we got to do, knowing moving forward. But he doesn't owe nobody nothing, so that's how I just look at it like, Like, A-Rod, if you want to come back, please let us know early.

32:21James Harrison:But if you don't, you know what I'm saying, it's cool. Because we just need to figure out what's going on. Will Howard, love him also. And build a team. If you just get a good line that, like you said, you can run the ball well, you have good receivers, you got good tight ends, he doesn't have to come do too much. Come in there, hand the ball off, you stand ahead of the sticks, you're not putting him in positions where he has to go out there and just create craziness. No, he's under control, third and shorts, you know what I'm saying, and slants and stuff like that. So I'm with the building a great team because you can just put a quarterback in there, competent, you don't have to go out there and be Patrick Mahomes.

32:57James Harrison:You don't have to be out scrambling, doing things crazy. Run the offense right. Don't lose the game. You don't got to go out there and go crazy. Just don't lose it for us. Yeah, it's the same thing. Like I said, when I came in, we had a great defense and we ran the ball and we ran the ball a lot. Now we had playing, we had Plex, we had Hines, we had Randall L. We made our plays in the past game, but that wasn't what we... If you're looking for more flexibility in how you pay for everyday purchases, meet Klarna. Klarna lets you decide whether to pay now, pay later, or spread payments over time.

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36:35And then when all of that happened, I remember the next morning, I think I wanted to like write you and go, how did you know?

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38:09And so you, you, you take the pressure off of a young quarterback, like a Will Howard, if you can, if you need to, again, this is all depending on what A-Rod wants to do. Yeah. If you need to, you can take all the pressure off him and just let him, like you say, don't lose the game. And it's not like, I think quarterbacks, sometimes they get frustrated when you say, Hey, you know, they're a game manager.

38:29James Harrison:That is not, that's fine. It's not a bad thing to do. Listen, you're running the ball. You're getting yourself into good situations, good plays. You're eliminating the bad plays. Hand the ball, hand off, hand off, hand off. Guess what? Now we're going to throw the ball four or five times a game. Look at us in Indianapolis when we went that first Super Bowl. We went to Indianapolis and threw the ball the first, like, eight plays of the game. Indy wasn't ready for it. Heath Miller, Heath Miller, Heath Miller. I mean, you can do that just as well, too, as a young guy. But you've got to build a line and build a team that can sustain that.

38:59James Harrison:Yep. you got to be able to get that safety to come down when it's single high. They're not just standing back there too high. You know when safety comes down and then you got DK and Pittman going? That's what I'm saying. You got Mount Washington? You got Happy Book. What are we talking about? That's the same thing I was telling them last week, like how you came in. I'm like, yo, they're building the team right now. And then we go have a quarterback. We'll get the quarterback we need to plug in. I'm like, Ben came into the same situation. That's the same thing I was telling everybody last week.

39:27James Harrison:I am so glad that you went ahead and told him exactly what it was. You know what I'm saying? To justify that, you know, your boy, nobody talking about. You know what I'm saying? For sure. For sure. I appreciate that. Super smart. Appreciate that, brother. Yep. Look here, bro. I got another question for you. Okay. Favorite receiver to play with? I think I know who it is. My favorite receiver to play with was Heath Miller. he's Miller okay yes and I know he's a tight end Heath Miller listen Heath was that Heath was the Heath was a guy that and listen I could go down a list of some great receivers I play with I played with some unbelievable receivers guys that should be in the Hall of Fame um and in Hines and I think you know I play with one of the most talented guys that I've ever been around in my life and antonio brown guys with amazing facts i mean listen yeah i'm and and guys with speed like michael wallace i mean like we've i've i've gotten i've been blessed with a lot of great guys and and one of my favorites that i play with it is probably people would know about that i only played with for a few years jericho country jericho country was in the right place all the time hard nose like i loved playing with him and then i mean heinz ward i mean again the list plex i I mean, the list goes on and on.

40:50And Juju, when he was – you know, Juju early on. I mean, Juju's still going. I mean, he was a stud when he was playing early on and still doing it. But Heath Miller was different. Heath Miller was a guy that, you know, was – when he dropped the pass, it was like a record screech, right? Like, what happened, you know? He was always in the right place. Receivers are known to, you know, when you come off the field. Remember back in the day, we used to have looked at the pictures. We flipped through the note with the three-ring binder, looked at the pictures. And then come off the field and the receiver was like, man, I was wide open.

41:25Or to ask, hey, were you open? Yeah, wide open. Look at the picture, three guys around him. Not even close to being open. Heath Miller was the type where I'd be like, hey, Heath, were you open? And he'd be like, no, I think there was guys. And I'd look at the picture known around him. You know what I'm saying? Like selfless. Selfless. No, you didn't make the – not trying to blame it on you. No. And did – if you go back and watch, like, Heath Miller tape, yeah, he made some great plays, but it was never really flashy. It was just hard-nosed. He'd run people over. He wasn't hurtling people. He wasn't doing spin moves, stiff arm.

41:58I mean, Heath just did the work, and he was blocking. He wasn't afraid to block. He was always in the place. And I always tell people, like, listen, if I wanted to play backyard football, right, where there's no, like – you're just playing ball. You see this guy's here. I'm going to do this. I'm going to do this. Heath Miller was going to was going to win because he just had the ability to just be on the same page with you, read things. He was my comfort blanket. So I will I will take Heath Miller in a game of flag football any day.

42:27James Harrison:Respect, respect. Y 'all definitely went crazy because I know he he he for sure. but I know you and like he said, I knew Debo was going to say AB. I had to say AB because you and AB put me through the worst times. AB had his routes because that's when I came to Pittsburgh. I was so glad though I got to practice against you guys because a good ball and a good route is always going to beat great coverage. And it made me feel because I'm like, no, you're in the right spot, but you were just, you're going to put the ball where either he can catch it or nobody's going to catch it. I couldn't get my hands on it.

43:01James Harrison:You would just put the balls in great spots. And then your scrambling ability to be able to extend the plays and throw people off of you. If I'm covering a five and out, and I really think I have that five and out, I'm going to look, oh, I'm in a good spot. Ben's going to throw somebody off, and AB's turning that thing up. And that was a five out and up. And now I'm beat. So y 'all made it very, very, very difficult for me with that, like the scramble drill. There was a lot of ad-libbing going on with AB and I. And it seemed to always, I mean, there were very few times when it didn't work, right?

43:30When you ad-lib and it's bad, quarterback goes to throw, he thinks the receiver does, the receiver turns up or does something, bad things happen, right? Picks, it looks really bad. Those things were few and far between with him for whatever reason. We were on the same page a lot. I mean, a super talented guy. One of the things I tell people a lot, he worked his butt off. We all know that. He cost everything. But where he was probably at his best was on the sideline. If there was a ball on the sideline. Oh, the toe tap. The ref was like, out of bounds. I'm like, hey, I want to challenge that because there's a really, really good chance that he was in bounds.

44:05James Harrison:Yes. Yes. A thousand percent. Being able to. It looked like he'd be all the way. No, no way. All the way out. All the way out. And he barely ever went to the ground. He never dove for balls. He ran through everything. On the sideline, he would stretch out so far, and then somehow he would just stay on his feet. His balance and creativity was unbelievable. Tony toe tap. That's right. Tony toe tap. Now, that's the end. If it's by the sideline, don't ask it in. I tap. I tap that. Yep. Yes, you did. It's a good bag. Bro, man, look here, bro. Let's get into some little other stuff, man. Let me know.

44:44James Harrison:Joe's a spender, Joe. Oh, no. Joe's a spender. Joe got two different cars. I don't know. Sorry. What different car? He got one black, one white. They look the same. What is it again? Wow. That was when I was playing for the Steelers, D-Bo. I had a Cullinan and I had a ghost. They look the same to me. He had a black one and a white one. He couldn't decide on which color. You know what I'm saying? So he said, you know what? I'm going to get the black and the white. They're the same car to me. That's all I'm... See, people just always... What's your biggest... Thank you, D. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

45:16James Harrison:Like on your... Say, let's say your rookie deal. What was it? Yeah. Let's say Wasteful. A house? Oh, Wasteful. I was going to say house. Wasteful. Oh, man. I don't know. probably a car that I didn't need. I think I got my first car ever when it was like a Denali or one of those cars with the TVs and the headrest. You ain't get a Wraith and a Ghost. No, Ben. I don't even know what that is. What is a Wraith and a Ghost? I don't know what it is. It's a Rolls Royce. It's a car, Ben. What kind of car is it? Debo, it doesn't matter. It's a Rolls Royce. All right. Oh, Lord. All right. Let's let's switch.

46:01James Harrison:Let's switch gears. Moving on. Just moving on. What was your favorite stadium away stadium to play in? Well, I enjoyed, you know, as crazy as it is, it kind of coincided with each other. Anybody in the AFC North was pretty fun. Right. Because you just they were all over you. And I was very successful. But I would I would probably say my favorite stadium, Joe. and you're not going to like this because it's home away from home. It was Cleveland. I mean, I done set myself up. Yeah, I mean, I just, I mean, going through emails with them because they're doing a new stadium, you know, which seems crazy to me.

46:37I heard it's going to be a dome, which seems, or maybe retractable. I don't know. That doesn't seem right to me.

46:42James Harrison:You just wanted to see outside, okay. Yeah, going through emails and stuff, they're asking me for naming rights. Like they want, you know, I was going to put my name on, maybe. Oh, man, no. I don't know. That's where you're going with this? That's where they, dude, I'm trying to tell you, like, I'm looking at it. going to call Roethlisberger Roethlisberger Field. Roethlisberger Field is nuts. We'll see. We'll let that go. I mean, he kind of up in the air with it because when he going to the hall, he don't really want his name sitting in Cleveland like that. You know what I'm saying? But they speak it so much.

47:13James Harrison:I mean, look at you. Won a lot of games there. I can respect that though, Ben, because I went from there to Pittsburgh. I played in both. So let me ask you, Joe, as a Cleveland guy, what do you think about that being a dome or like a roof over? It feels like it isn't right. Part of being in Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, it's grass. Before you answer this, let me interject. Before you answer this. Listen, the reason they want a dome band is because it will be the only time they will get to see and watch and be part of a Super Bowl. That's crazy. go ahead joe i'll let you i'm not mad at it because i really think well the owners is it's for money you know the has them it's all they're building this whole little town out there they're going to have parking the hotels the restaurants it's a business move and i'm not mad at them they're putting money into the city into the stadium it's going to be beautiful i know it's going to be nice yeah they don't they don't they don't it just doesn't feel right though and i know I hear you, Ben.

48:21James Harrison:I hear you. Honestly, I love the downtown. Downtown, it was perfect. I love where the stadium was. It was beautiful, but I'm looking at it from, I guess, the owners. They tried to do that because the dollars and cents. I'll say this, and I hear it. It's probably going to be beautiful, and I assume, are they moving it out of where it was? Like, it's going to be in a different location? Yeah, it's going to be by the airport. Oh, okay. I didn't know Cleveland had an airport. Yeah, because we used to always drive. I know, it's true. No, it just feels like the best chance, and again, and I mean this with sort of all due respect, it felt like the best chance that Cleveland had was when bad weather came in.

49:02James Harrison:When it's slippery outside and you know what I'm saying, they can't get the wheel. That's really, that didn't really give y 'all a chance. That just kind of, I don't know. It depends if y 'all was playing a warm weather team. Do y 'all need me here right now, honestly? Excuse me? Do y 'all need me here right now? I'm just talking It's Deebo and Joe What are you talking about? We got special guests Sometimes it's going to happen There's nothing wrong with it Joe calm down You come out here with all the Cleveland stuff on And then expect not to get Cleveland questions You're correct I did this one to myself You got two three Browns helmets On your left side right there What are we talking about Joe?

49:44James Harrison:and the right side got the same amount of helmets and Steelers. And he told you it was kind of respectfully. He did. You always, when you say that, that means the bad stuff's on the way. You already know that. But it was respectfully. Kind of respectful. You got to understand that. If you're looking for more flexibility in how you pay for everyday purchases, meet Klarna. Klarna lets you decide whether to pay now, pay later, or spread payments over time. All managed right in the Klarna app. Download the Klarna app today or visit Klarna.com to learn more. Terms apply. California resident loans made or arranged pursuant to a California finance law license.

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51:25Listen to Flagrant and Funny with Keri Champion and Jamel Hill on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.

51:37James Harrison:Good people. What's up? What's up? It's Questlove. So recently, I had the incredible opportunity to have a real conversation with actress and producer Jamie Lee Curtis from Routines to Recovery, True Lies, and a certain Jermaine Jackson music video. Jamie's real and raw, and it's something I really admire about her. I am so happy that I'm the head in charge at 67, that I have the perspective that I have at my age to really be able to put all of this into context. Listen to the Questlove show on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Peace to the planet. Charlamagne Tha Godhead.

52:20James Harrison:And listen, we are back. The Black Effect Podcast Festival is back in Atlanta on April 25th at Pullman Yard. And the full lineup is nuts. We got the Grit and Eggs podcast, Deontay Kyle and Big Ice Cup Cat. We got Club 520 with Jeff Teague and the gang. Don't call me white, girl. Mona will be there. Keep it positive, sweetie, with Crystal Renee. We got Reality with the King with Carlos King. And yes, Drink Champ will be in the building. Plus, you know, we're going to have a lot of guests. So you need to join us. And we got the Black Effect Marketplace, the picture podcast, and everything you expect from the Black Effect Podcast Festival.

52:57James Harrison:Tickets are on sale right now. Go get yours at blackeffect.com slash podcast festival. Don't play yourself, okay? Pull up.

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