In short
Debo and Joe discuss faith and character in sports, Cleveland/Ohio sports debates, LeBron vs. Jordan and Jerry Rice vs. Moss comparisons, plus NFL contract/payments news (Bijan Robinson’s record deal and Jameer Gibbs’ contract situation). They then interview Hottie and Unk about Diamond Gym’s extreme training and viral workouts.
Guests (backgrounds)
Hottie and Unk are the driving forces behind Diamond Gym, known for “extreme workouts” that attract athletes, celebrities, influencers, and regular people. Unk says he’s been at Diamond since 1996; Hottie is portrayed as an athlete who later became a key trainer and content creator.
Key claims
Diamond Gym’s method exhausts body and mind via very high-rep sets (e.g., 200 reps) and strict rules with consequences (push-ups/burpees). They claim the training increases mood/learning and teaches stress is not danger. They say the gym provides emotional structure that helps prevent harmful behavior outside the gym.
Notable examples
Unk describes starting with a “walk-through” for NFL/YouTube interest, then joining workouts; they mention rule-enforcement punishments for breaking rules and “pain threshold” adaptation. They also discuss Diamond Gym’s growth since 2021 and helping kids with football camps, proms, and graduations.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VODiscussion on Faith and Personal Growth
0:30 to 1:30
Exploration of the importance of faith and character in personal development.
“Real value shows up in reliability you don't have to second guess.”
Discussion on Faith and Personal Growth
7:30 to 9:38
Exploration of the importance of faith and character in personal development.
“And it makes 100 % sense now because he is a well-grounded young man.”
Analyzing a Young Player's Work Ethic
9:38 to 14:00
Discussion on the work ethic and character of a young football player.
“Because, you know, like when we talk about character issues and we talk about not having to worry about him, you know at the end of the day he's going to be out of the way.”
Florida Gators vs. Ohio State Rivalry
14:00 to 16:22
Exploring the sports rivalry between Florida Gators and Ohio State, and their cultural significance.
“One player that will come out here wearing a Florida hat.”
Sponsor: US Virgin Islands
16:22 to 18:49
An enticing promotional read about vacationing in the U.S. Virgin Islands.
“Virgin Islands invites you to discover the stunning beauty of St.”
Sponsor: US Virgin Islands
18:53 to 19:24
An enticing promotional read about vacationing in the U.S. Virgin Islands.
“I, um, I can't stop scratching my downtown.”
LeBron James vs. Michael Jordan Debate
19:24 to 25:02
A detailed discussion comparing the careers and legacies of LeBron James and Michael Jordan.
“I thought I was about to play against him.”
Cleveland Browns Controversy
25:02 to 28:00
Analyzing criticism of the Cleveland Browns' quarterback situation and future prospects.
“Do you have an idea of what their numbers look like in their peaks?”
Discussing Quarterback Strategies
28:00 to 28:56
Analyzing the quarterback situation and potential trades for the Browns.
“Dude, man, if Sanders plays well, maybe your quarterback question is answered.”
Expectations for Deshaun Watson
28:56 to 31:39
Debating the future of Deshaun Watson and team dynamics.
“They just want to lie to y 'all now, I think.”
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Preseason Predictions
31:39 to 32:40
Speculating on the starting quarterback naming timeline for the Browns.
“And then if somebody was to say, hey man, hey, we want to trade for him, let us get him.”
Bijan Robinson's Record Contract
32:40 to 34:00
Exploring Bijan Robinson's impressive contract and implications for the NFL.
“First preseason game, the 15th, then we go to joint practices the 20th, and then we play the Bills the 22nd, the second preseason game.”
Gibbs and Running Back Contracts
38:06 to 41:22
Discussing the financial dynamics for running backs in the league.
“They going to have to make him happy, bro.”
Introduction of Guests: Hottie and Unk
41:22 to 42:00
Introducing guests Hottie and Unk and their influence in fitness.
“You know, they just come to Diamond Gym and to try and prove theyself, to do what they do and see what they could do.”
NFL Gym Experience
42:00 to 43:28
Hosts share a humorous story about a workout experience before the NFL draft.
“got started like before this ever even happened uh shout out to um NFL uh NFL uh network in Rob and, um, and, uh, out digital in the NFL digital.”
Intense Training Philosophy
43:28 to 45:36
Discussion on the training philosophy focusing on high reps and mental challenges.
“You know, I do my 45 minutes, do all my stretching and stuff.”
Overcoming Pain in Training
45:36 to 48:24
Exploration of the physical and psychological aspects of enduring pain during workouts.
“We might do 500 warm-up sets, then we'll go heavy.”
The Evolution of Diamond Gym
48:24 to 50:28
Hosts trace the history and evolution of Diamond Gym and its community impact.
“There's plenty of studies out there that show that it increases just everything from mood to learning.”
Discipline Through Fitness
50:28 to 55:52
Discussion on how gym discipline translates to life skills and emotional management.
“Like, so what happened was, I used to bully Hottie around, call him pretty boy and everything.”
Transcript
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3:34Welcome back to this episode of Debo and Joe. I'm your host, James Debo Harrison, and I'm here with my co-host, Joe Hayden. Please make sure you like, subscribe, and download where you get your show. How you doing today, Joe?
3:50James Harrison:Doing great, Brother Debo. Another beautiful day that the Lord has made. I am going to rejoice and be glad in it with my good brother. Yes, sir. How about you, sir? I am doing extremely well. Another day. Blessed to be here. Come on. On this podcast. Yes, sir. With my brother. Showing love You know it Receiving love You know it All love All love, Joe All love All love, brother Look here Later on we have We have Hottie and Unk Coming on Yes To rap with us Talk a little bit We'll go over some of the stuff We did in the gym And a little bit of everything Get to know them a little better Yes, sir So what we gonna jump into right now Is a little bit of still information.
4:42James Harrison:Yes, sir. Information. Okay. Let's pop off. That's a fire stillness hat you got on right there, my brother. Hey, hey, hey, Joe. That hat that never seen it. Never seen it before. Hey, Joe. That right there, is that right there, that's a one-on-one. That right there, is that right there, is kudos to you, D-Bo. You coming through with the hat you said you was. That hat is very impressive. Joe, I totally said. Perfectly with the shirt. Yeah, you did that. Joe. I told you, man, my hat game is impeccable. Respectfully. Respectfully. Okay. Now, this one, if you like this one. Yes. I love that one. I know you.
5:20No, no. If you love this one. Yes. Listen, I don't even know what's a stronger word for love. You just going to be infatuated with it tomorrow. Okay. And this going to be a one-on-one too, baby. Okay.
5:33James Harrison:Okay. Okay. Oh, we ain't going to be on tomorrow. Friday. Friday. Friday. Friday. Friday. Friday. Friday. I'm looking forward to it, Deebo. I'm looking forward to it, because you've been stepping with the hats. You ain't lied about it. You've been stepping. It's what I do, man. I'm stepping. I'm stepping. I'm stepping. You stepping. Big stepping. Big stepping. Respectfully. Respectfully. Joe. Yes, sir. Have themselves a grounded, God-fearing man over there in Jeremy Bernard. This right here, man. You pulled up with a Bible in your hand. So I keep minds on me, too. So how important is it to dive into the word every day?
6:08James Harrison:What advice would you give to the young people? Yeah, I mean, like it says, you know, go to him to get your daily bread. So like every single day I'm making sure that I'm opening up my word, that I'm praying. I'm giving him the time because, you know, he has blessed me beyond measures. And, you know, he gives me grace and mercies every single day to wake up. And so I just know it's a blessing to wake up and I have to give him, you know, my life. Like he says, like when Christ died, we died with him. So and we got a new life. And so that's the way I try to live. And I just continue to try to bring the younger generation along with that.
6:41You know, I never try to be, you know, forceful with it, but I always just try to plant those seeds and let God do the rest and pray for people.
6:47James Harrison:That's good. Some plant, some water, but God gets to increase. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Listen, man, since this man has got into the league, man, he has got the Pittsburgh, man, since he has become a stealer. The only thing that has been said about him has been 100 percent positive. Talk about his work ethic, how he's a quick learner. Why? Because he has a work ethic. His willingness to take advice from his leader, his leadership. You know what I'm saying? The guys that are his OGs, the guys that are going to give him that information, you know, his professional mindset, you know, his confidence without arrogance.
7:29You know what I'm saying? Yes, sir. And it makes 100 % sense now because he is a well-grounded young man. And he is grounded in his Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
7:44James Harrison:It can't get no better than that, Joe. It don't get no better than that, Debo. It's a priority thing. It's a faith family football. I would call them the Fs. And then it's just the, you know when you're grounded, you know where your butt is bred. So you're not going to let people's waver your emotions. You're not going to let Twitter and how people feel about you really impress you because they don't know who you are. So the work's going to work. The work's going to speak out for yourself. You're going to go out there. You're going to grind. You're going to put the work in. You're going to speak to your Lord and Savior because you know, you know what I'm saying?
8:14James Harrison:You know that what's going to happen for me is going to happen for me. So I just love that the way that he's going to be able to get through his trial and errors. He may not be like, it's not going to say he's going to be the best football player of all time. But I'm just loving that you know that end of the day he's going to work and he's going to be able to have his priorities are in order. Yeah, I mean, but just from his college career, I mean, I don't see any reason why he wouldn't be a productive member of this year's squad, especially in that slot position. I just that's the way I see it.
8:47That's what I feel about it, just from his previous work. And again, this is one of those things where, hey, he can play the game and then it's the character part of it. That's a lot of things. That's something that a lot of GMs and owners don't really dive into. It's the character part. You got to have somebody that has character that is built on something that has a grounding, a understanding that it's not me. I do this. It's not all me. because now you don't have that person that's in that locker room like, I need this, I need that, this is this, this is that. Like, that is simple. And he is grounded.
9:26He knows that everything starts with his Lord and Savior and ends with it.
9:30James Harrison:I love it. I love it. I love it, brother. You need more players like this in the locker room because a lot of dudes, I mean, just the football, his faith and everything. Because, you know, like when we talk about character issues and we talk about not having to worry about him, you know at the end of the day he's going to be out of the way. He's worried about football. The main thing is going to be the main thing. So when he's balling out, when it's contract time, there's no reasons not to pay him. You know that this dude is going to be on time. He's going to be in the meetings. He's going to be doing what he got to do.
9:58James Harrison:Great teammate, great locker room guy. Here you go. No question, brother. That, listen, bro, the more I hear about him, especially, you know, this right here, this is not something that a lot of guys actually push out there to be honest with you. Yeah. But I wasn't one of them. I really just, like I said, started really getting into it over the last two, three years when I accepted my Lord and Savior. So I'm not as vocal as some, but I don't sit and slide it up under. The first thing I do in the morning is I get into my word a good 45 minutes, if not an hour. Spend time, meditate on it. You know what I'm saying?
10:39And I share it with people on my story just from one of my daily devotional that I do. I hear my story every morning. That's one of the things I do. And to be honest with you, man, like, I started to stop doing it at one point in time. And I'm like, you know what? I can't stop doing it. Someone's like, you can't stop doing it. And, you know, the thing that everyone is supposed to do is make more disciples. I'm not saying I'm a holy roller, but I know I've got plenty of messages from people that are like, James, I read your story and I got the book. And now I'm in that process of walking my journey with my Lord and Savior and make a, you know, a change in my life and become a saved, you know, man.
11:25So, you know, I love it, man.
11:27James Harrison:It's all in the way that you do it too, Deebo. Like you said, you don't want to feel like you're walking around more holier than thou because you don't. No, I'm the worst. No, no, that's what I'm saying. You want to welcome disciples because it's like, that's the thing. Some people get worried about Christianity because if you're a Christian, they feel like, oh, no, you can't do nothing bad. It's like, no, end of the day, we know I'm a sinner that needs a savior. So I'm not not here just to push it on everybody. But you are a walking, you know, say, you know who you are and you believe in it. So that's when I listened to him and he said, I'm not going out and just forcing my religion.
11:58James Harrison:But I'm gracefully like I'm here. You cannot follow me. I know I am. You know what I'm saying? But it is what it is. I'm here to reach good. You know what I'm saying? So the way that you deliver it, it's all good. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. But I want to go over here to Cleveland. Yes. Come on. Listen, bro. You got to listen. Oh, hey. I.O. Yes. And that's what I wanted to talk to you about. Yes, sir. You got the O-H-I-O. That's what I was saying to you when my mic was off. I didn't know my mic was off. Yeah. You got the Ohio hat on. Yeah. But you LeBron over everything. You should have a PA hat on right now.
12:43Oh, they're going to stutter. I love it. You know what they do? That just give me.
12:47James Harrison:No, no, no. Cleveland, look, they not playing right now. Ain't you from Florida? When they don't play. I'm rocking with the Cavs always. Bron, always. Cleveland is not going nowhere. They're not playing. They're not playing Philly right now. And LeBron knows. They're not playing each other. When they play each other, like I said, it is what it is. But right now, I'm always O-H-I-O. Hey, Joe, what school did you go to? What? What school did you go to? College. Look, I went to the University of Florida. I was a Gator. My coach, Urban Meyer, coached the University of Florida. The Ohio State University.
13:26James Harrison:And then he coached the Ohio State University. So my college coach, I got ties in both schools. My strength into conditioning coach, the great Mickey Marotti. I'm getting so tired of your two double-sided bullshit. That's what I'm saying. We just got tired. Throughout the Lord, you got me cussing already. See, that's what I'm saying. We know, but you know. You know right from wrong. That's why you know you're doing wrong. Repent, Debo. I need somebody. It's my language. Listen. I need somebody. Oh, wait. I need. Oh, I know. The Ohio State University. One player that will come out here wearing a Florida hat.
14:05Y 'all find me one. Urban Meyer would do it.
14:10James Harrison:Urban Meyer would do it. I said a player. Bro, listen. He ain't never played. Man, though. Find me one, Joe. It's really about, listen. Be a man. But you know, Gator Nation is over Ohio State. because my college, they played Gator, Gator Nation. I rock with Ohio State because it's Ohio. Everything Cleveland. Everything Cleveland, so I look out for Ohio State. But it's the University of Florida. I'm a mater. What I went to the Hall of Fame for is number one. Is that because LeBron do their shoes? No, they're sponsored by Jordan. Exactly. Florida Gators are a Jordan school. I'm talking about O State.
14:54James Harrison:Ohio State. Are they LeBron School? Are they Nike School? I believe. I believe. I don't know because that's not my university. I know the Gators are Team Jordan, and that's my squad. Ohio State, I'm rocking with OHIO because it's Cleveland. Who the best player ever to play in the game of basketball, Joe? I rock with anything that the land rock with. Who the best player to ever play in the game of basketball, Joe? LeBron James. But you rock with Jordan. Jordan, you know. I love Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan. It was Michael. LeBron just passed Michael Jordan. And me finally being able to say this out loud.
15:32James Harrison:LeBron don't say it 100 years, man. He finally let me be able to vocalize it. Because of his longevity, Debo. For me, him doing this this long. Like, I understand. Let me ask you a question, man. Let me ask you a question. Let me get to football. What'd you say with the Jerry Rice? This is the Jerry Rice effect. I understand that. But Jerry Rice was still a damn good receiver. if you cut it down ain't nobody still catching Jerry Rice in that time frame nobody's now you go to running backs go to running backs look at Barry got the highest right Barry and Emmitt in the same time frame Barry's off the chart but Emmitt had the longevity because he had to go catch him he need to go those extra years to catch him okay Okay.
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19:16Chat your symptoms and get virtual care 24-7. Health care just got less painful. Who are you picking? Barry or are you picking Emmett? I like Barry Sanders. No question. Me too. I was scared coming in the league. I thought I was about to play against him. I'm like, I can't have him out there tearing up my ACL or something.
19:34James Harrison:he would have... Bruh. Boy, stop on the dime and do all the... No. I'm like, no. I didn't... I'm like, yo, that... What we talking about? He retired. I was like, okay, we good. And we going to Detroit. That was my first game I played preseason. Detroit, 2002. I'm like, yeah, let's go.
19:59James Harrison:Anyway, Joe. Bro, I'm just baffled at how I can't like, how, how, if LeBron, I think is a little bit just, just passed him from the longevity. Why am I crazy? Is that crazy? Because, because you're, you're saying, you're saying the longevity is what made him better, not the actual play itself. You got, you. From eye test too, when I seen young, when I seen young Bron. Jordan went and played baseball and came back and got three more. The only reason why I'm saying this too is the champion. When I look from my eye test and I see young Bron out there with the Cavs when he came out there from high school, seven, eight years into the league, I thought that was the best player I had ever seen play.
20:43James Harrison:Like more athletic. Like when Kobe came out of high school, he was behind Eddie Jones. He didn't start initially. Like he still, if LeBron would have went to the Lakers, he would have started off rip. He wouldn't have been behind anybody. So just me looking at LeBron with my eyes, I thought he was the best basketball player out of anybody. Then he started winning the championships, went back to Cleveland, did all of that stuff. Then I'm like, okay, he's—for eye test, look, Jordan won six ships in a row, was best, like, immortalized. I thought nobody was ever going to touch Jordan. But then you see LeBron, stay out the way.
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21:14James Harrison:How many ships did LeBron got? LeBron has four ships? But it's like, I understand that. But if you have more ships isn't what I would think makes you the best player. For my eye test, if you just want to say ships, then what's my man that got 11 ships? Bill Russell. He should be. Hey, man, somebody just said Jordan did dunk contest. Did dunk contest. I don't know what. I mean, how many dunk contests did Brown do? He didn't do any dunk contests. Why not, Joe? I don't know. I don't know. I'm just saying. Like, Brown, I give him the two. No question about it. I give him the two. Okay. I mean, I'm still kind of fighting with Kobe for the two, but I ain't go.
21:56I ain't going to go over there. I gave him the two. Two, three. Whatever. Whatever it be. Okay. But over Jordan? Jordan played defense too, bro. Brown plays defense. How many defenses awards did he win versus Jordan? Jordan got like nine or ten of them things, right? Man, they are. How many Brown got? He ain't got one, do we?
22:23James Harrison:Look at LeBron how many times, how many blocks he has. all them chase downs. LeBron, nobody's just... Chase downs, bro. Nobody's you... Chase downs? Nobody's taking advantage of Bron. Man up. Nobody's taking advantage of Bron. I'm not... Dude, I'm not... Listen, you think somebody was taking advantage of Jordan? I mean, Pippen was... You can't say, was Pippen better at defense than Jordan? I would say so. Hmm. I don't know. All right. But still, total player, hell no. That's the other thing. Still, total player, hell no. That's the other thing. They start making... You stayed in one spot. LeBron with three other places to get a championship.
22:58James Harrison:That's the other part. It got to make me starting looking like I got to talk bad about Jordan to up Bron. I have nothing bad to say about Jordan. Jordan is immortalized. Jordan did nothing wrong. So that's why. No, listen, I need Jordan to give me that shoe deal that he gave you. See? Yep. Listen. That was a good, great, great, great, great, great, great deal. Thank you, MJ. Bron ain't give you. Ron didn't give me no deal. He didn't. He didn't. He didn't. But that's why you know this is non-bias. Yes, it is bias. How? I got the deal from Jordan. If it was biased, I would have been like, man, Jordan's way more.
23:43James Harrison:I think Jordan is for sure. Ron can't pass him. It's my opinion. I think Jordan's number just right. It's 1A, 1B. That's why I can say that. Okay. So what would have made Jordan just straight one? If he would have played longer. If he would have played longer, what else did he have to accomplish? Nothing. Nothing. There's nothing. See, that's what I'm saying. Okay, so here. So here. So AD, one of the coldest D linemen we done seen in I don't know how long, because he didn't play longer and somebody else comes and plays longer and takes up that time to beat his numbers or get to his numbers, Now they're greater than him?
24:27Exactly.
24:28James Harrison:That's what, look, this is my question though. I think Randy Moss, his career was shorter than Jerry Rice's, but Randy Moss, I feel like if you want to say long time, best receiver of all time, I think it's Randy Moss. But Jerry Rice's numbers, because he played so long and was so consistent, then that's like how you can't say nobody was better than Jerry Rice because he did it for so long and was so consistent and so great for that long. Like him and Randy Moss's peak greatness of seasons was probably around the same. But then Jerry Rice just did it for so much longer. Because literally when I see him, I love Randy.
25:04Do you have an idea of what their numbers look like in their peaks?
25:09James Harrison:I don't. But then that's when it comes like, you're taking apples to oranges. It's like, your personal president, does it have to be because his numbers were a little bit better? Like the eye test would say, if he has this Montana, to like... No, I will say this. Justin Jefferson's got the... In today's thing, I'm taking Moss. Okay. Even though I think Rice is number one, I'm still taking Moss. That's where I'm saying with the Norton and LeBron thing. It's like, I understand. The only way he could have passed it, it was Jerry Rice just played this long. Ain't nobody ever catching Jerry Rice's receiving numbers.
25:43James Harrison:I don't think nobody's ever catching LeBron James scoring record. And he's not even a real... And they say he's not even a scorer. he's not he's not okay but he's the all-time leading scorer of all times and he's going to be never 23 years bro you got to be you got to be see that's what i'm saying that right so if somebody played 20 what you mean you got to be you got to be if you're considered if you're going to be considered the greatest of all time you play 23 years you got to be you got to have all the records you got to have every record especially if it comes to over accumulation of like you know whatever but like again i told you but the eye test tells me when i see jordan brown primed up i'm jordan it's jordan respect okay anyway we will go over here this usa today writer goes off on the browns he said what are the cleveland browns doing seriously we have no idea He said both Watson and Haslam paid lip service to the notion that the locally despised quarterback could be back with the team next year when his current and fully guaranteed and widely derailed contract expires.
27:00The notion that he'd return is almost as ridiculous as the notion that he could potentially start over Sanders, a second-year player who needs a lengthy look at some point as Barry and company assess their options ahead of what's expected to be a rich quarterback draft next year when the Browns own two first-round players. picks thanks to the Garrett trade. He goes on to say, in giving Cleveland fans seem to embrace Sanders to a degree, perhaps approximate to their animus of boxing, why not just give the young man a long leash and park the very, wow, dude, this dude's tripping, the very lame duck on the bench.
28:00Dude, who is this? Dude, man, if Sanders plays well, maybe your quarterback question is answered. If he doesn't, then you're primarily positioned to get his replacement at the top of the next year's board, maybe without having to invest further capital. Elias, this is Cleveland. At last, this is Cleveland. Hey, bro. Yes. Who is this guy? I don't know. USA. He tripping, tripping. He went hard. He tripping, tripping. Nate Davis. Man. Hey, he went in on y 'all, bro. He went in. He went in. I think they know. Why he go in like that, Joe? I said that yesterday. I'm like, why are you even saying that's a possibility, Joe?
28:52What? Possibility? That's what I'm saying. It's a possibility that Watson could come back. They just want to lie to y 'all now, I think. They told y 'all what they were. We ain't trading Miles. Miles gonna be here. He gonna be here forever. And then, boom, he get traded. Yes. Like every storyline y 'all get this year, it comes out as this, and then it ends up being the opposite. Yes. What's going on, Joe?
29:16James Harrison:This is blatantly, but he's telling us at the end of the day, Debo, that I and you were saying the same thing. Owners, we see GMs, we see people, they gonna say something, and next thing you know, they're going to do another. Because they've been working on things behind the scenes, stuff is going on, and they don't have to tell you the truth. They literally don't. So what the USA Today writer right here is saying is, when they're saying that they want to sign Deshaun Watson after the season, that's crazy. And he's saying what I'm saying and what other people are saying. No matter what, you got to bite the bullet.
29:52James Harrison:You've already signed the$230 million. You know you did what you did. But end of the day, when you're saying this, you want Deshaun. We want Deshaun Watson to play well. You have him under contract. Obviously, you don't want him to not be looking good. So for outside, for everybody on the outside, you're just pushing Deshaun Watson as much as you can. So at the end of the day, you're not going to sign him with a tool contract. I would think not. You already gave him the spread. What we need to do is, what he's basically saying is, we need to play Shador Sanders, the young quarterback that we have, that is thriving, that everybody loves, that the locker room is winning over, that he's actually playing pretty well.
30:31James Harrison:He has weapons around him. Let's give him a chance with this team. Because if you don't find out what's your door, then you get rid of Deshaun, obviously, because you already paid him that bread. You can move on now, or you have options where you have two first-round picks. So stop, like, you're just out here just saying stuff. You know what I'm saying? Just trying to make sure your team looks good because if you have to move on, because owners and GMs, behind the scenes, they're not saying this, I don't think. I would hope not. unless like because in today he already made the two the money and it is what it is so you got to live with that but as an owner you trying to make sure that your team and everybody looks as good as they possibly can when when so the value doesn't go down you're not going to replenish the value of a player on your team if you can't so last ditch effort is what y 'all doing to hopefully think that somebody thinks or somebody is willing to possibly make a trade for this man before the season starts.
31:25I think that's the only reason y 'all saying this stuff right now. That can be the only reason because all y 'all do is tell stories and feed everybody BS and then go do something else. Like they go feed this so he could do this and do that. And then if somebody was to say, hey man, hey, we want to trade for him, let us get him. Glad he had been off like a rocket. Yo Yo Browns It's Browns man They Browning man
31:54James Harrison:Look This is all I'm telling you Everything You We got actions That's going to speak louder than words We're going to have to watch And see what's going on During the preseason We're seeing Shador And Deshaun Watson Are in a battle Shador is playing well So hopefully When the season comes When these games start coming We're going to have to announce The starting quarterback This is We're in flux Debo We're getting everybody's other information, all these insiders writing how to do it. You think you're going to get your starting quarterback that's going to be your start at game one of the preseason?
32:24James Harrison:No, no. I say after the joint practices, after we play the Buffalo Bills joint practices, coming out of that, we'll have a starting quarterback. Before the preseason game? The second preseason game. Oh, the second preseason game. Second preseason game, yeah. First preseason game, the 15th, then we go to joint practices the 20th, and then we play the Bills the 22nd, the second preseason game. Joe, I don't see them having their starting quarterback until after the third preseason game, Joe. I don't see him naming one until then, Joe. That's just me. I feel you. As much as they done went back and forth on this and that and everything else, and then you see the quarterback, they tracking all this, man.
33:07The young boy, the young boy doing better than all of them. I mean, he got less reps. He's going against lower competition, but I'm just saying, It looked better. I'm just saying he ain't got no interception.
33:19James Harrison:No, no, for sure. Let the young boys keep grinding. I mean, Dylan and Jalen Green not looking bad either. So keep letting them throw the ball, see what's going on, who's going to make that. This Watson thing is crazy. Them saying, yeah, that's out of control. Look here, man. That boy B. John Robinson for the Falcons, he just broke the bank a three-year. $75 million now makes him the highest paid running back in NFL history. He will receive a record$51 million guarantee. Oh my goodness, that boy got$37 million signing bonus. Uh-huh. Oh my goodness, Joe. Yep, yep, yep. That's like $25 a year? $25 a year, brody.
34:08James Harrison:37 to sign the paper? Yo, he getting all that. He re-signed that good market. For sure. He get 37s off the rip in the 75. Yep. He's seeing all that. All three. Oh, for sure. All that. For sure. Right. Now, what they gonna do over there in Detroit with Gibbs? That's why you wanna hit it down. It's looking... You see what they coach say? Mmm. Mmm. It says Gibbs cryptic comments on how long Lions hold in will continue. He said only time will tell. Running back. Jameer Gribbs has now missed five straight practices and still no deal in sight with the Detroit Lions. Joe. Yep. I guess currently he is the NFL.
35:11Woo hoo. 35th highest paid running back. 31st. Sorry. 31st highest paid running back. That's like almost dead last. If you're talking all starting running backs like four point four six. That boy that boy getting four point four six. Saquon had twenty point six. He just got. The U.S. Virgin Islands invites you to discover the stunning beauty of St. Thomas, St. Croix, and St. John. The U.S. Virgin Islands is truly a magical place, one of a kind, and unlike any other destination, with incredible food, warm hospitality, vibrant culture, and breathtaking beaches. It's everything you could want in a vacation.
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38:37James Harrison:Yes. What? See, that's what happened. And they got rid of Dave Montgomery. They ain't even got a leg to stand on. What y 'all going to do, baby? What they going to do, Joe? They need to do something. They going to have to make him happy, bro. They going to have to do something. And if it's going to be what he's looking for, the guarantee. But like I said, nothing but the salary cap is not going nowhere but up. And when these dudes are balling, B. John Robinson, deservingly so. Even when your team isn't doing exactly what it has to do as far as wins and losses, you are doing what you got to do, staying out the way, not making no noise.
39:12James Harrison:Same thing with Gibbs. He's putting up the numbers, and then Montgomery, you got rid of him. You know what I'm saying? So now you're knowing that you got to make sure that you take care of Gibbs. So he's sitting in a position where he knows that he's outplayed his contract. So everybody knows that. Gibbs deserves a sign of money. When you're seeing B. John Robinson sign for$25 million a year, it's like, okay, you know what time it is for Gibbs. For sure. They asked, I guess they asked Dan Campbell his reaction to Robinson's contract. And he said, for Gibbs' deal, he said, it's certainly not going to hurt, but we'll see.
39:52Yeah.
39:54James Harrison:That's, man. Bruh. He wants him out there. You know, the coach, he don't got too much to say. If he could give, if it was his money, he'd give it to Gibbs. What? They ain't got no real big paid players over there, do they? Oh, no, no, no. They got Amarasa. Yes. They got Jalen, my man Williams, J-Dub. They got golf. Golf, yeah. You know, those three nice bags. But they got room. Man. It's better with us looking at them. Listen, Matt Ryan is the president of the stuff over there in Atlanta, man. He getting them boys paid over there, man. That's what I'm saying. Guys got to get paid. You got to give them that money, man.
40:39Look here, man. Yeah, yeah. Go ahead and cut this down a little bit, baby. We're going to jump on in over here. We're going to jump on in over here, man. Cut this down, man, because right now we have our guests. They have finally arrived.
40:53James Harrison:Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Hottie and Unk. We have two of the driving forces behind Diamond Gym and the extreme, I'll say extreme workouts that have led to a lot of viral content that you guys have been seeing over the past three years or so. often considered the most dangerous gym in America. They have athletes, celebrities, influencers, entertainers, regular people. You know, they just come to Diamond Gym and to try and prove theyself, to do what they do and see what they could do. But we're getting a little deeper into that as we go through the interview. but uh what these uh these two men right here they um they shape they shape men and it's through five you know um I think when I first met them here's a crazy thing Joe look here so my sons was like before this even got started like before this ever even happened uh shout out to um NFL uh NFL uh network in Rob and, um, and, uh, out digital in the NFL digital.
42:15They put, they, they, they, they ended up putting all this together, but at the league office, but my kids sent me a thing and they like, dad, uh, how do you know? Want you to go, uh, to diamond gym. They said, they said he was one of the people they want. They want you to get there. And I ain't going to lie at the time. I didn't even know who it was. So I'm like, what are you talking about? They like here, look, they show me it. Right. And I'm like, bro, look at me in my eyes, I looked at that shit and I said, hey, dad ain't built like that no more. I don't even got that desire. I said, son, I said, them boys over there doing 50 ,000 reps, bro.
42:51I said, you trying to get daddy killed? What you trying to do, right? So, long story short, it comes together and they're trying to get to me, the NFL's trying to get to them, I'm trying to get to them and we ended up getting together. And I'm like, you know what? To hell with it. I'm going to do it. So they ended up wanting to put us at some little gym somewhere, whatever it was. I'm like, no, let me talk to the Stillers. So I made a call. So we got to the Stillers facility, Joe. Now, listen, this is the day before the draft, right? Joe, I done did my little warm up. You know, I do my 45 minutes, do all my stretching and stuff.
43:31They come in, I'm soaking wet, whatever. We start doing the thing. hey, this nigga Unk gonna tell me hey, first set 200, huh? 200. 200? Yeah. I say what? I made like it wasn't nothing though. Yeah, early. Unk, what is the, what is the, what's that all about, Junk, man? Bring these boys on here, man. Welcome to the show. Unk and hottie. Let's go. What's good? What up, what up, fam? Hey, I see you back there, boy, sitting off in the corner. Nah, we here, we here. James, I really like the introduction. I was very fond of that introduction. Yeah, appreciate it. Appreciate it. Appreciate it. Appreciate it.
44:12Yeah, I try and do what I can when I can. Hey, James, he's scared to ask you about your acupuncture picture. Uh-huh. What about it? You're asking. Go ahead. I want it ready for you to be sexy, James. Whoa, whoa. Oh, you're talking about that's body work. You got to be able to look through that. Yeah. What are you talking about, man? I'm in the National Geographic. Health care, maintenance, body care, Middle Eastern. Well, that's actually a picture that's way worse than that. I ain't going to lie to you. It's the whole, in the National Geographic, it's the whole spread. I ain't going to lie. They made that thing to where they ain't covering nothing.
44:54It's a full back shot. They ain't covering nothing but the crack, bro. I ain't going to lie to you about that. That one, yeah. I didn't even know. They was up over the top of the camera. They was like this.
45:04James Harrison:Oh, nice. I'm not hip. I'm not hip. Yeah, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was wild. It was wild. I ain't going to lie. But I'm just showing the people the body work, the processes that you go through to get where you need to be. You know what I'm saying? To improve. Karen is Karen. But to answer your question about the 200 reps, we like to do things that not only exhaust the body, but exhaust the mind. So we try to make everything a challenge. And then on top of that, it's like we don't want to jump into heavy weight because people will get hurt. So our way of preventative care, as they would say, is if we're going to do chest that day, we probably do 2 ,000 reps of just tricep extension.
45:43And then we go into our chest press. We might do 500 warm-up sets, then we'll go heavy. So that way we can just prevent injury, get the muscles flaring up, get them fast, switch muscle fibers. And then it's also a challenge. Because if I do 200, how do you got to do 200? The next kid got to do 200. And then after every set, we do 35 push-ups. Just to keep it. Yeah. So it's like for us is. The harder the workout is, the more satisfied we become, because it's letting us know that the body is is limitless, so to speak, and that your mind and your body are kind of in sync. So when the kids come in and they see it on social media, they think it's a game today today.
46:24Fucked up today. Messed up. No, you good. You good. No. Then they throwing up and then, oh, no, we're going to do the workout with you. Yes. Yeah. And that's another thing. They say, well, Unc, you don't do this because we have certain rules. If I don't break the rules, I don't pay the toll. But if you break the rules, you close your eyes during the set, you're going to do push-ups. You drink water during the set, you're going to do push-ups. You don't pay attention with the exercises, what we're doing, you're going to do push-ups. And now it's to the point that Hadi didn't understand it at first.
46:53And now he's the ultimate rule enforcer. Not because I had to pay the price, James. I had to pay the price, bro. I was getting beat up for three years. I closed my eyes. 50 push-ups. My shorts was an inch too short. 100 burpees. It was punishment. So now I pay the same price I did. That's all. Yeah. I mean, I think when you look at it, it's a physiological and a psychological aspect to this kind of training or environment. Because you're going to meet people that are like you. and not only that they're going to be people that are going through the same sort of difficulties that you're going through and now you sit down there with them and you work out with them and you go through the same training and at at some point the pain comes dude all right and that's something i'm gonna tell you right now joe at some point the pain comes and everybody's gonna feel that pain it's just gonna be at a different level since they've been doing it long enough they threshold for the pain it's gonna be higher than what mine was okay and when it comes down to it, man, and you're going through that, like, it gives you that knowledge that, all right, I already had it that I could go through hard things.
48:06I know I can make it through, you know, and I knew that it wasn't something that would kill me. But I hadn't went through what they did do. The massive number of reps do it. At some point in time, your body is like, I'm done. Yeah. My body told me it was like, I'm done. and that's when I had to go into the you know what your past failure um it was like I can't be done I'm I'm fucking five minutes into this workout bro I can't be done no for real like it's impossible and I'm like they're still doing it so it was like as much as I didn't want to dig back into that bag you know what I'm saying it's the only way dude it was the only way and the biggest thing is like The exercise that a lot of people don't understand, it changes your brain.
48:58There's plenty of studies out there that show that it increases just everything from mood to learning. And when you put your brain through things like that, you put your body through things like that, and your brain learns that this stress doesn't mean danger. It learns that it's something I can overcome. And that's something that not just for workouts, that stress that you'd be able to overcome, but in life, in situations where you're stressed as a man, where you're stressed as an individual, you learn that, you know what, this stress is not going to break me. I can work on this. I can overcome this.
49:32I can make it through this. So, you know, I think that's something that you guys have really gotten to now just over the stretch of you doing what you have been done. When did you guys start basically having this whole thing with Diamond Gym platform where you were, you know, building all this up? 2021. Okay. It's been almost five years now. Yeah. A little in the middle of 2021, I think. Yes. Okay. Okay. I'm going to film them. But the funny thing is I've been in Diamond since 96. So I think that's a 30 ball. And then I met Hadi. But Hadi was training. Hottie's always been the athlete's always been in shape.
50:14So I would always leave Diamond to go to different gyms and just meet people and be like, yo, if you really want to come train, meet me at Diamond. Because it's different from these commercial gyms. And here you exercise. At Diamond, you train. Not just mentally and physically. Like, so what happened was, I used to bully Hottie around, call him pretty boy and everything. Hey, man, I got a picture of that boy. I was walk by him, hit him with a body shot for no reason. And then he'll be like this. And I'm like, yo, do the workout. And then one day he was like, a third party friend of ours reached out like, we doing YouTube videos.
50:52We want to come to Diamond. And me being me, I'm like, I don't like cameras. I don't want to be a part of no cameras. I don't want to do none of that. I didn't know anything about social media, the gravity of social media, TikTok, none of that. I had an Instagram page, but I was already working out on it. Like, I didn't know about YouTube and filming. Like, yo, we coming to film. You're old head. Yeah, I'm old head. I'm still, man, I was before Instagram, Twitter, any of that. Yeah. Came that day. I didn't work out with them that first day. I just walked them through the gym. We did a crazy workout.
51:26And the buzz went crazy because it was two different. I'll just say it's two different eras, like, meeting. the younger generation i'm a little bit older so my style is different from this new generation and when we meshed it went crazy because we brought two different age demographics together so then i'm like okay i'm gonna jump in the next workout because i don't want to be like i'm telling y 'all to do something i'm not gonna do but when i jump in now we all gonna die it just kept it just kept getting bigger stronger and faster and then the more we did it it was like it was meant to happen because more kids wanted to join and now it's like we went from three of us filming so now we got a whole family of kids we got two kids playing football next year they actually go to football camp uh august august 11th okay a lot of kids in college we We help them go to their proms.
52:24We help them go to their graduation. We throw the family off of pain, basically pain. Everybody has their own little emotional structure, whether it's dad not being home, them having low self-esteem, and everybody has their own thing. But when they come to Diamond, they get to let it out the right way and not the wrong way. Yes. You can discipline yourself in the gym. You can discipline yourself in the real world. so what happens is a lot of these kids don't know it's okay to be angry it's okay to have emotion it's not okay to lose those emotions happens is these kids can't tame their emotions outside of the gym so they end up doing drugs go to jail beating up people hitting women all types of stuff so we give them structure in the gym hey bros nothing to talk about put your phone down or you work.
53:17So we let that dictate how they take care of themselves outside and it creates a sort of disciplined structure outside of them. And with Hadi, the great thing about Hadi is people look at Hadi like, oh, he's a walk in the park and he is behind closed doors. He's a monster. He's a workaholic, whether it's doing the YouTube videos, editing. He's a self-made businessman, but in that gym, to see him going to gym, To be honest with you, and I hate to say it, when I look at certain influencers, and this is just me being me, I see the still shots. I see the black and white photos. I see all these. I don't see the work.
53:59I don't see you in the gym sweating. I don't see you in the gym crying. I don't see you in the gym about to pass out. I just see your pictures on Instagram. I see the filters. I see the magazine photo shoots. So from him going to that world to really being a dog in a gym, it changed the landscape. Because now you got to back up what you put on social media. We don't care about the pictures you post. Come walk that motherfucking walk with him. Yes. All the social media influences his age, they come and try to get a test of that shit and they get dropped off. And it's not us being arrogant or us not being humble.
54:35It's his reality. This is how he trains every day now. and then he had models for a certain company. So a lot of those kids started training with us and they're like, yo, this ain't no facade. This is really him. It's just like you, Debo. It's just like you and Joe. You guys performed on the field, but I was always taught champions are made when no one is watching. Yes, sir. Joe, tell him, Joe. You are on the field. It's the shit that he do in the gym and behind closed doors that makes him a success story. because he works hard. It's not giving to him. Oh, he's Arabic. He must come from rich parents.
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NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden react to the ongoing competition between Cleveland Browns QB Deshaun Watson and Shedeur Sanders, the latest from Pittsburgh Steelers training camp, Jahmyr Gibbs appearing to hold-in as he awaits a contract extension from the Detroit Lions, Bijan Robinson and the Atlanta Falcons agreeing to a $75 million extension with the Atlanta Falcons and much more! Later, They're joined by Diamond Gym's very own, Unk and Haddy!
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