Deebo & Joe - Part 1: Brendan Sorsby to Pittsburgh? + Myles Garrett's leadership questioned

25:18You suck. No, I don't believe that. And the quarterback, at quarterback, the position that can literally single-handedly lose and win you every game, can lose you every game. you think you're going to go and bring that over here that they're going to take a chance of picking this dude up and saying oh yeah let's let's let's give it a shot and if they pick him up the big issue is you're saying right now if you pick him up you're saying that will howard drew aller nobody in this quarterback room has a future of being our quarterback rather short term or long term you got will last year on the fifth and mike mccarthy said that he would not have picked him fifth he said he would have went way sooner so that would be bs and then you just a third round pick on which means you would essentially be done used up two third round picks this year and for a guy who what was he at cincinnati you got two quarterbacks that played in a bigger power football conference in the Ohio State University and Penn State for a guy that played at Cincinnati.

26:29And I believe both of them had, at least in my opinion, better numbers all around as far as what his numbers was his last year over there in Cincinnati. On top of him going over to, what is it, Texas Tech just in, what was that, December they said or something? Yeah. They gave this man millions, millions of dollars. and they ain't making pay nothing back and you sitting up here crying about you are going to be hurt by what by what dude pittsburgh stillers is not taking a chance on none of that dude right now like he said you got five quarterbacks now really four that you're trying to develop or at least three you know you can say you're trying to develop mason but i mean he's what year eight nine that's yeah that's that's done so you would have three quarterbacks that you're trying to develop even if we said that they went and got past the part that he's a degenerate gambler yeah it's not it's just not going to happen they're not going to put that onto their organization like it's just not going to happen that's not something that they're going to do but say they did you don't even have the time to develop three quarterbacks dude you don't have time to get a good sample size to see even what they can do especially now dude like so like this right here is it's a it's a pipe dream dude like it ain't even a pipe dream it's a pipe bomb yes my um you're trying to blow up shit like it ain't happening dude like i'm going straight to the facility and i'm talking to the stillers if they even think about none of this i gotta go right in and i'm going straight to Omar.

28:08I'm going straight to Mike. I'm going straight to Mr. I got to go see everybody. Just the thought of somebody actually thinking that this is a possibility at a historic organization legacy of... No, it's not happening. Where are you at, Joe? I'm exactly where you're at. No. No, no, no. Right now, it's two... We have players on our team. We have Will Howard. We have Drew Aller. We have Aaron Rodgers. This situation with this quarterback, he's going to be the leader of your team. There's too many questions. There's too many things going on. When you study these quarterbacks, you just got to find one thing to be like, it's not, I can take him off my board.

28:49It's not a reason for us to take him. It's too much drama to take him in the draft. You hear so much other little things and it's easy to take a quarterback off of your board. Right now, it's just too much noise. He has too much stuff to deal with. And with the Steelers, we do have Will Howard. We do have Drew Isler. We have Aaron Rodgers. We got to worry about this season. If this season doesn't go the way we need to, we still have two quarterbacks that we've drafted on our roster. And depending on what happens with the season, we can go next year and know that if we have to go get a quarterback, I'm not thinking Brendan Soresby with all of his problems and all of the things that he has going on, then with his play on the field, they say he's a big guy.

29:29He's 6 '3", 230. I don't care. He threw for 2 ,700 yards. 6 '3"? 6 '3". That's not giving me crazy numbers, crazy size. All of that, I don't care about that. We got two boys like 6 '6", 6 '5", 6 '7", something like that right now quarterbacking. I don't care about what Brandon has to go on. I think he's bringing, it would be bringing too much non-necessary drama to the Steelers. We're a solid, We're a great organization. We have Aaron Rodgers right now. We have two younger quarterbacks that we drafted that haven't been able to even see what they can do. And they've been staying out the way. They're not doing anything off the field.

30:09They've been working their ass off trying to learn from the coach, trying to get their stuff together, and just quietly getting better. Nobody knows how good they are because we haven't been able to see them touch the field. So Aaron Rodgers is going to be our quarterback this year. We have two young quarterbacks that are still grinding, trying to understand the game, under McCarthy, getting the whole vibes ready, getting it going. Bringing in Brandon Soresby, I don't think he's like an Andrew Luck, you know what I'm saying, like type of prospect. He is not. He's not, in my opinion. So I'm like— Andrew Luck wasn't gambling.

30:38That's what I'm saying. Even Andrew Luck, if you have a quarterback, that's the position where he needs to be another coach on the field. All this stuff, when you're talking about off the field and doing your research, research is done. People see that he definitely has some problems. He has some things he has to work on. So right now, that's not the pick. Maybe when he goes and sits down for a minute, works out his problems, then we can all talk about that coming back. But as a Steelers organization, you have three quarterbacks on your squad right now. If it's the Arizona Cardinals, maybe a team that's just in a bad situation, don't have a quarterback, maybe they could be willing to take a shot.

31:11But with the Pittsburgh Steelers, no. I think they're set at that quarterback position where after this season, we can see what we got with Will and Drew. And then knowing that if we do need a quarterback, we don't have to go get one that has these problems. We can still go do our research and then get a quarterback that we want in our program. And that's fine. We don't have to be in a rush to all of a sudden, oh, a quarterback's in the thing. No, we're not panicking. We're not tripping. We know we got, we're trying to get this whole team right. Aaron Rodgers now. We got Drew. We got Will. we're good.

31:46We're good. This right here is just a team that doesn't have a quarterback. Like, the Cardinals don't get somebody else. It's not only a team that doesn't have a quarterback. It doesn't have a team that doesn't have any integrity whatsoever. A team that's desperate. Desperate. Desperate. I'm just like, he's just bringing in too much. That ain't the Pittsburgh Steelers. Quarterback position, bro. Somebody's GM was talking about it, though, and they sound more like a fit than the Pittsburgh Steelers would ever be. Yeah. It's more. Whose GM was that? Oh, you talking about the. He's keeping all options open.

32:31I don't think that would be a good option for us. Y 'all see how fast Joe realized what I was talking about.

32:41Get to talk about my man, you know. God. You know, that's why organizations. I mean. Organization. Speaking of organization, your organization now or some people, I should say, reporting. Myles Garrett reportedly wasn't universally a beloved figure that he seemed to be with the Cleveland Browns organization, according to Mary Kay. Mary Kay be getting some shit going, man. Garrett wasn't a true unifier for the team relative to his on-field impact. Garrett was reportedly respected and revered, but wasn't necessarily universally loved by everyone on the roster. Garrett was said to have stuck to a tight inner circle when outside of the team's facility.

33:35Cabot added the third year linebacker, Jared Verse, who was the centerpiece in the Los Angeles trade package for Garrett, is expected to be more of a force multiplier than his predecessor. Joe, what do you think of this report from Mary Kay, Joe? Is there any, you know, sometimes wearing smoke, you know, it's fire, you know, and, you know, what's going on, you know, sometimes, you know, might have a little truth to it. What do you think, Joe? I can see it can have some truth to it. But the thing is, like, you know, Debo, the best player on the team, everybody doesn't have to like him. And at the same time, he doesn't have to be like, Miles, just personality isn't just as much like the most friendliest, like, let's go out and let's just go hang out.

34:31He don't hang out with a lot of people. And that doesn't make him, like, not a cool teammate, not like somebody that just says, he going to come in here, He has a job to do. He's not really the most, like, he might not be into the same things. Miles Garrett likes anime. He likes, like, car. He likes certain different. Anime. Yeah, I am. Yeah, I agree. You know what I'm saying? So there's certain things that he would like to do that certain other dudes aren't just into. He doesn't like to go out. He doesn't really like to do some of the things that other players would want to do. So with that, with his inner circle, when you are on.

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38:54When you come into that locker room, you're handling business. You're always on task. You're always on time. You're making sure things are happening. You're trying to be involved. You're being the best player you can be, period. So as far as force multipliers and hanging out and just bringing people together, you can watch. You can lead. Leading is in different ways. You could be a vocal leader. Somebody's always talking all the time. But at the end of the day, if you're not balling and you're just talking, dudes are like, shut the hell up. That's irrelevant. Like you, I don't want you to say anything.

39:23You're just talking to be talking. If you're balling and you're on your stuff, like, oh, I bet, let's get the guys like, we need you here. That's a different thing. That's cool. But Miles is more, lead by example. There's a different, like I wasn't just going to go out there and be able to, hey, rah, rah, rah, like bringing the dudes together. That's just not somebody's style. You can just block that joint. You're going rah, rah, all that. And I'm going to go out here and ball. I'm going to get six sacks. me. Watch how I work. You know what I'm saying? I can lead by this is my way of leading. So I think in other dudes' ways in leading of just rah, rah, bringing it around, bringing the team around, like giving the good energy, that's all great.

39:59But if you're not balling, then I'd rather, that doesn't matter. That doesn't matter at all. It's just a type of leader that you are. You can lead by vocally talking and still being going out there balling. But the main thing is the main thing. If you're not creating plays, if you're not being on time, if you're not being a true leader by example by if I just look at you and see what's going on, that's the way real leaders are because you're just out there doing what you got to do, handling your business, being a grown man. The talking part is extra when you're, say, a baller. If you're miles getting you able to just, that's just, oh my goodness, yes, we got a dude that's bringing dudes in.

40:33But at the end of the day, even if he didn't do that, the balling is what we need. Him doing exactly what his job is is what we need. So I can understand when dudes are like, oh no, he wasn't really like, he was revered because he's going to ball the hell out. But we didn't really like him because maybe he didn't hang out with him. It wasn't like, this is reported. So on that same breath, she says, though, he was respected and revered. That's what I'm saying. Because you're going to respect someone when you come and busting his ass and doing his work. You can say love because you're just not, that could be more of a, because he's not hanging out.

41:08I want to know who the people are, who these reported people are. I would like to know that. I feel like this may be just an opinion. Everybody got a, well, I ain't gonna lie, we didn't really have it like that when we came up. It was like the whole team hung out. You find us 25, 30 deep. Now it's hard to even find a group of 6, 7 deep. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. But for me, I guess this is where I believe people have different opinions or beliefs because of the view or perception that they have. You see what I'm saying? So if you and me is sitting in a room and you sitting over here and I'm sitting over there, we may be looking at the same, we're looking at the same thing, but we got different views.

42:03The story you go tell will be different from mine because you had a different view. Both of the stories are true. Yeah. Okay. And I think that's, you know, that may be something of like, you know, what you have here is even if it is people that are saying this, maybe they were looking at it from a different view or they wanted to have a different relationship with him personally. and instead of them going and making an effort to do it or trying to figure out what it is that they could do to actually be be closer together or or have more of a relationship with him because the thing is like it's not in question his production his effort none of that's in question nobody said he was a bad teammate yeah okay nobody actually disliked him they said oh he wasn't a true unifier.

42:52Well, she said he wasn't a true unifier. And, you know, he wasn't university love. Who the freak is university love anywhere in this world? Nobody. But let's stick to like, what is true? Myles Garrett played nine seasons for y 'all boys. 134 games. That man had 125.5 sacks, seven Pro Bowls, two defensive players of the year. Okay. And you know what y 'all gave him in return? Y 'all gave him two winning seasons. Two playoff, excuse me, two playoff, one playoff win in nine years. So I'll say this. If he lacked any leadership or motivational, they took it from him in the last nine years. He lost the motivation of being able to continually give you a pep talk while they're getting their ass kicked.

43:55I'm dead serious bro no no no you have a caliber of player that is here and every time you telling him it's going to be better it's worse you go and make the playoffs and the next year you immediately go into the tank 20 you go into the tank what is it 23 you go into the tank what do you think he has lost the rah rah yeah he tired of the bullshit you're going to keep you're going to come in here I'm not I know what it is. I know what it's going to be. All y 'all doing is giving me lip service, man. Nothing is changing, man. We know what you did to get me to stay. You paid me and said, hey, wait and see.

44:34If it don't work, we'll get you out of here. Yeah, of course, verse could be a person that could come in and unify. Look where he came from. He see, he has hope. He believes that it could be done. He sees it could be done. He's optimistic. Yeah. But don't worry. Trust and believe. They're going to take that away from me. No, Debo, don't do that. They're going to take that away from me. Don't do that. Don't do that. Keep his optimism. Keep working hard. Try to galvanize the troops, and we're going to see what the defense does. They're going to pay that man. If he keep playing like he played his rookie year and last year, they're going to pay that man.

45:10They're going to pay him. They're going to pay him swell. And he's going to realize that, you know what? If the Browns keep browning, you're going to be in a situation where you're the new Miles Garrett sitting there getting paid hella good money, the most money on the team, and you have no chance of ever winning a Super Bowl. And you're going to be trying to find a way to get the hell out of there. Don't nobody want to sit in the game that they love and the ultimate goal of it and never receive it, and you're one of the best to ever play the game. No. You ain't lying. I mean, the Miles Garrett say that you said is exactly, I could feel it.

45:49You're going to keep giving the rah-rah speeches and keep coming in there knowing. End of the day, you're going to keep doing what you got to do. But it takes the other 10 on the defense, takes the other 11 on offense, takes the other 11 on special teams, takes the general manager and the head coach to come in there, put the team together, and have a plan for us to execute and come in to win. So with Miles, I'm coming here every day. I see the plan. I know what y 'all got going. I'm going to do my 111th and get all these sacks and do my piece and let's see what it gets to. So, I mean, I'm with you when I just don't think that with Miles, I think that it was, he's not really as a vocal leader.

46:28He's not a vocal leader and that's nothing against anybody. That doesn't matter. You don't have to be a vocal leader. I think he's in a different way. And when they're saying this, he was respected because he's doing exactly what he got to do. but galvanizing and when that keeps happening and you keep seeing what's going on it could demoralize your motivation you knowing that you still don't go in there and ball regardless but the rah-rah and the speech just like this it's dying I'm in there and beat my head against the wall I'm about to come out gotta go ball that's for show and then we gonna go from there we gonna go look at the tape who was fucking up let's go edit this let's go talk about this you know what I'm saying because I'm gonna do my piece but what do we gotta do to win all the rah-rahs that's not getting you to make this happen It becomes window dressing, dude.

47:11You're hearing the same thing every week and getting the same result. Like, I can't sit here and continually come up with something else. Like, okay, listen, his play is doing his talking. Like you said, he may not be a guy that's talking to you. I wasn't a guy that was real talking to you. But when I talked, I talked, it meant something. So when you do say something, you don't want to just keep talking. Man, you talk all the time. It's like, when I do say something, it means something. You're going to listen. I'm going to address something. But if you just keep talking, your words just start meaning less and less.

47:42Less and less. Shut up. Right. Like when the coach call up the dude that, hey, man, come on and break it down. You're like, God, I don't know why he called him up here. That boy, he weak. He weak with the breakdown. He don't even believe what he about to say. You know what I'm saying? Come on, no. You ain't lying. You ain't lying. Bruh. Yeah, bruh. The NFL power rankings, dude. So there's number one after the offseason moves. That's obvious. Flip, Los Angeles. Smart. And Seattle. Yes. Yo, Joseph? Yes, sir. Do you agree with this, Joe? Of course. Of course. I agree with it. Before it was Miles, I thought they were still better than Seattle because they just needed the secondary.

48:30They bring them back the same O, and they just needed a better secondary. Trent McDuffie and then the other corner that they got, too. Both of them. I think that made them way just a better team because I thought they should have beat Seattle going against them in the NFC championship. Like when they were getting close to going to the Super Bowl. So just if they helped out that defense, kept the same offense, Stafford is still Stafford. I like it now they got Miles Garrett with the DBs. I think they're I think they're the best team on paper for sure. Yeah, like I said, you got Miles Garrett. The DB upgrade may not even be totally necessary because now they ain't going to be able to hold on to the ball as long.

49:09I mean. They won't have as much time. You got to dedicate not just one, maybe two or three. You know what I'm saying? So that's a big difference. But I'm going to tell you right now, brother, they got they got Cincinnati and and the sorry and the Ravens above they got Cincinnati at a 9 they got the Ravens at an 11 so 1-2 Los Angeles Seattle 3-San Francisco 4-Denver 5-Buffalo 6-New England 7-Chicago 8-Houston I don't know how they got Houston, but well, yeah, I see how. Do you know how? Yeah. Yeah. Nine, Cincinnati. Detroit, 10? Detroit, 10. That is crazy. Baltimore, 11, bro. This dog, this is the most unreal, disrespectful thing I done seen.

50:08Baltimore, 8-9 last year. Cincinnati, 6-11. I understand that. They said it was her. Okay, but what has Cincinnati done? Like, they still got defense issues. Like, the linebackers, they ain't did nothing to help the linebackers out. That's who going to make your tackles. You know what I'm saying? Like, just because Joe said it's the most talented team don't mean that they nine now. That nine in the power ranking? Come on, man. Nine is, yes. You got them above us, too, at 11? And what is he, three and five? He three and five against us, dude. when we play him well and we make sure he has to pass the ball to beat us and we don't allow Baltimore to run the rock, dude.

50:52What are you talking about? And y 'all got offensive issues. They lost Lindenbaum, the center. You lost the centerpiece. Yes, they did. Like, along with – come on, man. I'm just trying to figure out, Debo, why there's so much disrespect to the Pittsburgh Steelers here. Dude, that's what I'm trying to figure out. They sleeping on us, bro. They sleeping on it. I don't even realize how much we done did, man, how much we done improved on the offensive side of the ball where we needed to improve, dude. The defense was not this. Defense, we're going to be better as a defense. We're going to improve greatly because we have a better coaching staff point-blank period that are going to add to the players' abilities to be able to play this game at a technical position standpoint and a mental standpoint where they're going to be able to get improvements like Jalen Ramsey talked about from his defensive back coach, like conversations that Jalen had with the D.C.

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