Deebo & Joe - Part 1: Broderick Jones Suffers Setback, McCarthy on Steelers Draft, Ty Simpson Turns Down $6.5Mil

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24:56James Harrison:Mike, you talked a lot about inside-out flex at wide receiver. What does it take for a wide receiver to have inside-out flex rather than just be a slot guy or just be a specific outside? Well, I mean, I think, you know, number one, it's just, again, you start with the physical traits, you know, to play inside and outside. I think historically, when you talk about a slot receiver, you know, the first thing you think about, can a guy run an option route? You know, because that's really what slot receivers were known for. In my experience, I've always looked for the guy that was athletic enough and had the ability to win outside the numbers.

25:32James Harrison:We call it the Audubon, the ability to win out there and then transfer that size and skill set inside because I think there's a huge benefit to that because he is capable to do more and frankly, hopefully be a good option receiver because that's a big part of playing in a number two and three spot. but you know i i just never ever viewed having a smaller receiver just to run slot plays i i don't i don't play i don't like to play that way or i don't play that way frankly and because our offensive systems build around making a quarterback successful and when you have to run concepts in a pass game dictated on this receiver can do this and this receiver can do that then you don't have the ability to move around them as much so when you can move players around now you challenge the defense and you can create more matchups and you keep things simpler for the quarterback so sorry for the long answer but that's how i view the slot man i like the answer you just gave him too much he gave him too much insight what you think joe no i love the answer i love the answer it's it's rather be you got to be quick than fast you rather have your dudes if they're six foot six one and they're still quick that's the biggest thing if you're a slot receiver if you can run that option route, if you can change direction, you can put your foot in the ground, that's all that matters.

26:50James Harrison:If you're a really big receiver and you got to build the speed, then you're not really a slot guy. If you're an outside receiver, you can be 6 '1", 6 '2", and you can put your foot in the ground and come out of those breaks, a la Devontae Adams. He's not a small receiver. He can go outside and dance you up and take you for a fade and run the route tree on you, or he'll go in the slot, option you up ridiculously because his foot in the ground, his stop and go is crazy. So I'm loving what he's saying. If you've got a big receiver that's quick and not just build the speed, he can play in the slot and body any of them little nickels, option routes, any of those safeties.

27:28James Harrison:So I'm loving being able to move them around quicker than fast. You got a quick dude that's big, man, move him anywhere. He can play X because he can go out there and handle business with those number one corners because he got size, but then you want to put me in the slot. I'm quicker than these little nickels and you want to drop down to safety, any of that, they can get this work. So I'm loving what he's saying because you said what he's giving them too much. I'm like, that's just letting them know that you don't have to always put your ex outside if you got a quick ex. If your ex is shifty and can put his foot in the ground, you can move that man around and he can get open in a slot and that's where you can make mismatches against the defense.

28:06James Harrison:So he just, He just dropped gems. He gave a little game. Yeah, he gave a game. That's a good thing if you're like in preparation. But right now we're trying to draft something to hope he's there. So we don't want to give you too much of what we're looking for. You just automatically just say, hey, we ain't taking nothing small. You know what I'm saying? We ain't taking nothing small. So it ain't a whole bunch of other options when you say, I ain't taking nothing small. When you're considering, what, anything under six foot to be small. So six foot, 6 '1", 6 '2", something like that. So you're kind of narrowing it down to, I guess, who it is that you may be targeting.

28:39You know what I'm saying? Look, he said that he could do – he's still saying that he could do both, though. Like, if the receiver is – He said, I am not getting a small dude. That is not what I do. It's not. All right. He said he don't play that way. I don't play that way. I'm not going to play that way.

28:58James Harrison:Yeah, no, for sure. And, you know, again, like I said, I don't think this changes receiver, offensive lineman, whichever I think is going to be best on the board is, you know, kind of where I'm assuming that they would go with it just because that's how they've originally functioned, you know, until recent decade or so. Lineman, receiver. Oh, yeah. Facts. 20 what is it 21 53 oh 21 53 we can get something good there facts i would definitely go for the lineman first now considering the um the look of what's actually going on and you know like i said you're talking about talking about 20 million almost 19 something 20 million dollars for a fifth year option or especially like if they know like yo he's not gonna play this year why would i I pick up the fifth year when I know who's gonna take you or what am I going to end up having to pay if you're able to come back and get healthy through that process.

30:09Like it would be, it'd be crazy for me to, as a, you know, the business of it to go in and spend that kind of money on a possibility of hoping.

30:22James Harrison:It's a timeline, man. It's the not knowing of the timeline. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, Joe. What's up, coach? They said, man, your chin strap. They said your chin strap getting in the way, bro. All right. Pull the chin strap away, man. All right. They say they can't hear you, Joe. I got you. I got you. I got you. We locked in. Let's rock. Let's rock. All right. Aaron Rodgers. holding the Steelers captive again. This is what the dude said. No surprise. And it shows up as a big problem. He said, quote, here it is, April 20th, three days before the draft, and the Steelers have no answers from Aaron Rodgers and no expectation of getting them before the draft begins.

31:16What's that say? Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice. The thing is, the Steelers are allowing themselves to be fooled. This makes sense. considering they've fooled themselves for years. And for what? Another non-losing season followed by a first-round playoff exit. Who wants to hang a banner for that? The Steelers have been stuck in a rut for nearly a decade, and apparently their aim is to remain in that rut. Joe. Deebo, you go ahead and pop off. What you think? How you feel about this? Yo, talk to me. I guess this is some cat. Let me see. Let me see. I'm going to talk to him. CBS? CBS. CBS Sports.

32:05I don't even know who the dude's name is. But what the boy name is.

32:12Don't know his name. Don't care. But I understand what he's saying. Okay. But he's making like the Steelers are just sitting there doing nothing. They ain't doing nothing. They haven't evaluated quarterbacks. They haven't looked at any talent in the draft. They just sitting there holding, they meeting their hand, you know, doing nothing. You know what I'm saying? They ain't doing nothing. How many people visited? How many people did they have visit quarterbacks? How many quarterbacks did they visit with? Okay, here we go. Throw that out the window. And then I guess they're just telling Will Howard, hey, you just sit here and wait.

32:53we got to see what Aaron go do hold yours too you hold yours no they say hey Will quarterback one that's what we're doing he also added that it's been a decade of this Steelers having won the playoff games in 2016 and they're stuck in a rut he's saying nothing's changed nothing's going to change that yeah let's since he's saying that let's let's look at what happened the last time we lost a playoff game. We just lost a playoff game. Since then, we changed our head coach. We got a whole new staff of coaches at every position. Added to that multiple free agents, you know, one of the busiest and productive free agencies the Steelers have had in a long time.

33:49Matter of fact, I believe our grade was an A -. Our grade was an A -. Yes. Like we're building a whole team around everything, but the one thing that's missing that gave us the A - was just the quarterback, a young, a young franchise quarterback. And it's funny, though, how people just, like, throw away Will Howard. Yeah. Came in off a national championship, Okay? And in the course of playing through that championship, he elevated his game through the play of that championship. And I'm not saying he went out there, he made all these great throws, he did this, he did that, and he won them in the game.

34:29No. You know what he did? He didn't force throws. He took what the defense made him. He avoided turning the ball over. He was efficient. And now, because he got injured in the preseason and we didn't get to see him, they just threw all that away. Like, yep, that's it, dang it. He could be exactly the quarterback that we need. And I'll say it again, as I said it before, just as Ben stepped in when he was a rookie. I hear you. And the quarterback position was the only thing left. The team was around. It was built around. And all we needed was somebody to come in there and be able to be efficient.

35:15James Harrison:Yes. 17, 15 passes game is all being did. We're supported by a great run. And he wanted to say they're holding us hostage. I don't see the holding hostage. You know what? If I want to say something, I'm going to say more like a, more like a, more like a, what you call a Mexican standoff. ain't nobody ain't nobody got their pistol out everybody pistol under the table okay everybody holding their gun under the table everything good to you hear click this is this is this devo i agree with everything you're saying but this is why i kind of hear what he's saying from the outside looking in if you were just a steelers fan and looking at it and everything that they're saying is they're expecting to get some answers from a rod and then when you hear That was early.

36:03James Harrison:It looks like you're waiting on them. It looks like you're waiting on a communication. You're expecting something. You're not getting it. It's looking like, oh, yeah, I expect this and da-da-da. But end of the day, A-Rod, he did it before. Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice. You know what I'm saying? He did it before last year, waited until July. A-Rod's going to do what he wants to do. Us speaking and saying or answering even about what we think he's going to do is what puts us in a position that makes us look like we're waiting on him. We don't know what A. Rodgers is going to do. What we expect and what we will hope and what we would think and what we will want from him is not in the realm of what he's thinking.

36:45James Harrison:So we got to kind of move like during this draft, if we do want to get a quarterback, and that's the whole thing, what Mike McCarthy does, if they see somebody that they like, get him. It's not depending on if A. Rodgers is there. As he said, the right person is there at the right time. A thousand percent. could be a quarterback. If that is that quarterback, it will be a quarterback drafted in the later rounds, which will fill out what we would not necessarily need, but to go into a preseason, you need three quarterbacks. Yes. So we're still saying at the same time, we can draft one. Like you said, we're doing our due diligence.

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40:20ever. I went and had lunch with him one day and I was like, and dad, I think I want to really give

40:25James Harrison:this a shot. I don't know what that means, but I just know the groundlings I'm working my way up through. And I know it's a place that come look for up and coming talent. He said, if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you, which is really sweet. He goes, but there's so much luck involved. And he's like, just give it a shot. He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat just hang in there. Yeah, it would not be.

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42:22James Harrison:We like Will. If Will is still there, we're still going to believe in him. We're going to put an offense around him. We're going to build a complete team. Do you know what I'm saying? Every time we're saying about Ben coming into this situation where he didn't have to be a Pro Bowl player. All you got to do is do your part. You know what I'm saying? Don't mess it up. Don't be out here throwing errant throws. Running, running, running. Play action. He's open. Hit the open man. You know what I'm saying? A-Rod last year, it was a lot of dink and dunk. I'm not going to lie. It was the 27th. The only person that threw for shorter yard attempts was Tua.

42:58James Harrison:So we weren't setting the world on fire in any stretch of the imagination. So if our offense, we had our run game right, we do get Will, and now we have Pittman and DK, and we do have our other offensive weapons, we start throwing the ball a little more downfield because the safeties are coming up. Will makes those plays. We get those one-on-ones. DK catches those opportunities. Pittman catches those passes. You know what I'm saying? So defense plays better. We got another corner. So I'm with you with. We got some interior linemen. We got players. You got a team. You got a whole team going in there where everybody has to play together.

43:35James Harrison:Our special teams, everything works for the good. We had Duck Hodges as our quarterback, and we won games because everything works for the good. When you got a good team around you, you don't have to go out there and go too crazy. So when we had Will, I think just believing in him, giving him a shot, giving him a chance. Worrying about A-Rod, he's going to float to his own boat. If A-Rod's going to come, A-Rod's going to come. If he's not, I'm ready for Will because he sat behind A-Rod last year. Do you say you want him to do the same thing this year? We got a better offense. We have more weapons.

44:08James Harrison:So I think A-Rod might look better this year too. But still, I mean. We don't have to wait. We don't know. The big thing is he's not holding us hostage. He's not holding us hostage. We're not waiting on him. So whatever your name is, I don't know who it was. You probably ain't even old enough to be like my uncle. Well, maybe you could be, but you probably young enough to be my son. You're a long time, whatever it may be. Young whippersnapper. Old whippersnapper, old fool, young whippersnapper, whatever you want to call it. I ain't listening to what you're saying. You ain't got enough insight. I got molding you.

44:47Kick rocks. Okay? That's what I'm going to tell you. Now, this is the issue. if they go Steelers and pick up a quarterback in the first, all that stuff that McCarthy was saying all the stuff the Steelers been saying, all the stuff the players been saying you are now feeding me lip service because you went and got a quarterback at one and you're telling me that he will has a fair chance of competing against this dude after you done said how much confidence you had in him and McCarthy said himself if he was drafting last year he wouldn't have been there at five in the fifth round so again I don't see it being Ty Simpson at all I think if it's anybody's later and you know who I think it is or who it may be and Ty Simpson said he turned down 6.5 million offer to transfer to Miami and just declare it for the draft.

45:57He said the offer, the last offer was one I had to consider. It would have made me the highest, it would have made me the highest paid player in college. Without hesitation, I wanted to play professional football. Joe, yo, this is a good decision? What do you think? Did he make a good decision there?

46:19James Harrison:it it depends so no so no so long story he could what is his long-term goals what is his long-term goals does he want to be carcer like does he does he think that he's going to be a starting professional quarterback highest rank so look the draft is slotted he goes back to college he makes six and a half this year and then does he play does he plan to play another the year in college or does he plan to go to the NFL? My whole thing is, it's long-term goals. If he goes to the NFL, right now he's projected to go, what, first round or second round? First and second round. If he goes in the first round, if he goes to the last pick, if he goes to the 32nd pick, he will be, he'll sign for, what is it, four million dollars a year.

47:08James Harrison:If he goes, if he goes so it would be four years for no three and a half three and a half million dollars a year 13 basically 13 million dollars four years 13 mil the NFL the professional quarterbacks are making minimum Debo the starting quarterbacks are 30 30 million dollars a year the highest paid what is he going to make this year this year he makes six and a half if he went back to college this year if he got drafted he would make if he got if he gets picked the 32nd pick if he gets picked the 30-second pick, he makes like three and a half mil.

47:45Again, me, personally, I would have had to sit back and take a real long look at this.

47:53James Harrison:It's definitely a look. You definitely are making a look. It's definitely a hesitation. Now, there was no hesitation. I want to go play professional football. I'm a young man. Okay. I'm 20, what is he, 21, 22? 21, 22. You play, yes. Okay. Now, this is where if it's me and it's my son, I say, hey, let's sit down and talk about this. This is a business. And you're in the business of making as much money as you can. And this is where you let your emotions sit the hell down because he is emotionally driven to want to go to do that thing he's wanted to do since he was a kid. And that's to be an NFL quarterback.

48:49You could do that next year, too, after you make this six and a half at Miami. because you ain't going to make that this year in the pro. And next year, you could come in and possibly be the number one pick. Next year, you can come in and make your damn leg. You could. And you get insurance behind that for a career-ending injury. It's a whole lot of insurance stuff out there now, Joe, that will give you$30,$40,$50 million or more, depending on what you're willing to pay for the insurance policy.

49:27James Harrison:Okay, say if he doesn't get hurt. He does, right. You're saying worst case scenario. Okay, so worst case scenario. Like Carson Beck. Let's do like that. Carson Beck. He goes in right now, he gets hurt, he's done. And he got what? Three million? So we go on worst case scenarios. The best case of the worst case is he still go and get six and be done forever versus getting three and being done forever, right? But if he signs a four. Business. We're talking business. So best case scenarios. We're talking best case scenarios. Business. You go and get to six and a half because you know you're not about to get that right now.

50:03And then you come back. And you get it after next year. It's business. Insurance policy. All the other stuff. We go to business mode, man.

50:14James Harrison:I like it. I'm a son. Listen. If my son is so fortunate to be able to get drafted or whatever that may be, I don't care. Listen, I'm going to sit down there, and this is a no-brainer. We're in the business because, again, look at Broderick Jones right now. It's going to be a business decision, mate. It's going to be a business decision, mate. You need to make business decisions. It's the thing. Carson Beck, if you go back, it could work both ways. You could go back, do that, and then if he thinks that he could go make be a higher first-round pick, he could go be number one overall, then you can go get that.

50:51James Harrison:I'm just looking at the – I feel you, Debo. If we're saying best case, best case. We're saying best case on everything. Best case scenario is he goes top 10, though. And he signs – if he goes top 10, he can sign for$33 million. And that's four years. And you're saying he's going top 10 this year. What you willing to bet on that? This is what I'm saying. It's a possibility the way that they're talking about how he could. Worst case, he goes 12 – if he goes 32nd pick, he signs a four-year – He signs a four-year with a fifth-year option, and it's going to be a minimum of 13. Okay, but what is he making that first year?

51:25You could go to Miami right now and get six-side. But it's fully guaranteed, though.

51:28James Harrison:It's fully guaranteed, and you're going to be in the league for four years. You're going to get that whole 13 when you sign that rookie deal. That's fully guaranteed if you're a first-rounder. Okay, so. So he's going to get the whole thing. It's basically. Don't forget, Florida got no tax. I understand. So six and a half million, no tax. But if you're going to get 12, it's 12 to go play in the league, and at the same time. I know what you're saying, Joe, but you're talking best-case scenarios. If we're talking best-case scenarios, you go, you get to six and a half, you come out first round, first pick, and you get$150,$30,$50 billion.

52:00James Harrison:Why would we not pay here and get the six? Or you go back like Carson Beck went back, and you're going fourth round. Okay. Carson Beck went back, and you go fourth round. He can still go back and expect, oh, yeah, I'm about to go good, and then he goes fourth round because you have to go perform. Carson Beck went back to Miami expecting it to be all good. He's going to be a first-round pick now, go top 10. He's going third or fourth round. He's going to sign for a million dollars for four years. Okay, so he shouldn't bet on doing good. He should have just take what he got and just run with it.

52:32James Harrison:I'm just saying, if your whole goal is end of the day, I feel you. If you want to make six and a half, go get your payback. You're saying his goal is just to play NFL football and be a quarterback. And go get that bag. Go get that big bag. It ain't the bag because the business decision is this. because you're saying the business decision is bad. You're making two different things. Your business decision with you is, okay, bet, I might not be good enough to go get this franchise quarterback money. I'm not saying he's not good enough. I'm saying right now he had a chance to get six and a half. He's not going to get six and a half this year.

53:03James Harrison:But look, you're not going to get six and a half this year. You're going to get a fully guaranteed contract if you go first round, any pick in the first round. And that minimum that you're going to get, worst case scenario, is going to be$13 million within four years. You know what I'm saying? So you're going to get that regardless. That$13 million is coming to you. If you get your fifth-year option and you play well, you're going to get more bags. So I'm looking at it like my goal is to play football and get paid for it at the highest level. If six and a half is what my number is now, okay, bet for sure.

53:35James Harrison:You're good because now if you don't get drafted high next year, you still got that six and a half that you weren't going to get when you went to the league. But I'm like, I'm in the league. Now I'm trying to show myself to be a franchise quarterback, knowing I can get my fifth year option, knowing that everything's happening. But this 13, no matter what, I'm being in the league for four years and I'm going to get that bag. So I'm proving myself. The main goal is to be a professional quarterback because I think I'm a baller. I think I'm worth that. I know I can go get this 60 million dollars a year.

54:04James Harrison:I can go get a 300 million dollar contract because that's what they're giving out in the league. So you're saying everything goes great as the decision that he made. Now, I'm saying he gets six and a half more if everything goes great staying and coming back. You're saying that? You're saying this? Yes. Yes. OK. So I think the right decision would be to go back if everything goes as you plan it to go. You're saying you think he made the right decision. I'm saying right now, strike when the iron's hot. You're Ty Simpson. You're still right now projected to be a first round pick. If you go back, you should get the fan.

54:40James Harrison:And then you could be a projected to be a fourth round pick. and your iron's not hot. You're trying to go hit the league when people are like, oh, yeah, they're expecting highly of you. They want you to be a starter. I mean, they're not really expecting too highly of anybody in this quarterback at this draft. Let's be honest. It was the weakest draft that they said they had in a while at the position. After Mendoza, everybody's saying Ty Simpson. They're making him better than he is, in my opinion. So if he goes back to college, he's trash. Are any of these quarterbacks better than Shador? And Shador went in the fifth.

55:09James Harrison:Nope. Not in my opinion. He's going in the first. Because he was on, because he didn't interview well. Because he went in that joint cocky. And you know how that go. They did him dirty. I felt like him and Ward was the same type of player. I mean, whatever you say, man. Whatever you say. That's just how it be. I say, man, you in the business of making money, get that money right there. And if your thing is you just want to play quarterback in the NFL, that's your dream, go ahead and do what you just did. But for me, we're in the business of making money. Joe, again, what did you say, Joe? You said, hey, give me the money I got now versus taking away 50 million for a Super Bowl.

55:51You're in the business of making money. Me personally, I'd give up half to keep what I got. But that's me. Personal decision.

56:00James Harrison:You just said that you would have got the six and a half, though. Me? At college? Six and a half all day. because I don't know. I don't know what I'm going to do over here in the pro.

56:16I don't even know who's going to pick me up. Am I going to be a great player like Joe Hayden that's going to be at Cleveland with a trash team

56:23James Harrison:and never come away with a ring? Are you going to just... Are I got money? Look, right now, that's what you're saying? You're going to take the six and a half. You're going to believe in yourself. I'm going to take the six and a half. I believe in myself so much that I'm going to get this six and a half and still come back next year and be the one pick, not the 10th. All right. Yep. I mean, you know, I mean, it is what it is, Joe. Yep. T.A., look, to each of you, you'd be six and a half up on me, and then I'd just be ready to get, I'd just be one year earlier to my$60 million a year contract. Yeah, but then you ain't got as much cap room, and the cap is going up.

56:58I ain't tripping on that. I hit it even harder, Joe.

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