Deebo & Joe - Part 1: Chiefs DOMINATE Broncos + Latest on Joey Porter Jr. & Steelers

25:19James Harrison:Cam Sutton, two catches. Who's going to be those guys to help him out, you know what I'm saying, to get it going? He didn't play well at all. But at the same time, when you have your running backs, like if Dobbins would have been getting those carries, if his backs would have been able to, he would have been able to lean on them the way Pat did, then it would have looked better. But shout out to the Chiefs. Shout out to Pat. Shout out to Kenneth Walker. Because if the Chiefs don't have to have Patrick Mahomes do all of the stuff to be Pat, just be, just protect the ball. That one pick that he threw, that was a bad play.

25:51James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? I think that was the one of the worst plays he had for the game. but that's one. Eliminate that, Pat. We good to go. You don't have to do too much because now, normally throwing for 300 yards, four touchdowns. Hand it off to Kenneth. Let him do that. We're going to milk this clock. We're going to extend drives. When they go one high, let's make Rice make some shake. Travis, beat the linebacker and make a miss. You know what I'm saying? So I like the way that the Chiefs did it and it's still, it's game one. But the Broncos, the Broncos defense. Bro Nix obviously didn't play well, but the Broncos defense.

26:23James Harrison:Like, that was the thing that they stood on. It's like, nah, our defense, one of the best defenses in the league. If y 'all getting toted on like that, I mean, that's something they got to work on for sure. Because Kenna Walker, he was shredding them. Yeah, they nullified. They passed for us for sure. You know, you made it to where, like, oh, they so, you know, keyed in on the run. They can't stop it. Like, they don't even get time to pin their ears back and just take off. Because now, you know, Mahomes got to sit in the pocket and just throw, throw, throw. Because they can't run the ball. Them boys can run the ball now.

26:54James Harrison:And on top of the matter, you know, Travis Kelsey, I guess he ended up passing Jason Winton. So now he is second most receiving yards for a tight end, only behind. Yes, sir. Gonzalez. He got 13 ,073. Gonzalez got 15 ,127. And he just passed Winton at 13 ,46. 13 ,046. So he had three for 71. Yes, sir. Shout out, Trav. Do you know? Yeah, I don't know if you go get that. Yeah, I don't know. How long you think you go play? He got too much paper now. You know what I'm saying? Man, this might – I don't know. I think this might be the last one. I think this might be the last one. Leave it out on top.

27:45James Harrison:Still just playing at a very high level. hopefully wants to leave with a he wants to win, wants to leave with Pat and with a Super Bowl so I think he got this year, I think this year might be his last year but he can play as long as he want. What you think?

28:03James Harrison:I don't know if I think it would depend if Pat was like yo I just need you to stay here for another year or so or maybe two. It might be a possibility, I don't know I don't know I think his body might have a relationship how much you want to do it and how is your body feeling. I'm not, he going to know more than me. It's the body. The body going to tell you. You going to know where you could go. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Look here, man. Let's go on over here and see what these Browns got going on. Okay. Because it's looking like you're, um, the coach, Monk has said Deshaun's film confirmed getting the starting job against the Bucs.

28:47James Harrison:Listen to what he had to say, Joe. It confirmed it when I looked at the tape. We got to play better around him. We got to call it better. And he's got to play better. It wasn't just our inability to function consistently as an offense was a byproduct of we coaching and playing.

29:10James Harrison:Joe, what do you think of his assessment, man?

29:18Joe? Huh?

29:21James Harrison:What? Yo, what do you think of this assessment, Joe?

29:31James Harrison:What did he say? Play it again, please. Let Joe hear it, man. It confirmed it when I looked at the tape. We got to play better around him. We got to call it better. And he's got to play better. It wasn't just our inability to function consistently as an offense was a byproduct of we coaching and playing.

29:56James Harrison:Joe, what do you think of his assessment? Like, you know, what do you think? It was all bad. That's what he said. He said the coaches was bad, the players was bad, the Sean was bad, the players around him was bad. So everything, we just can't all put it on him. So I think he said he played bad, we coached bad, the players around him did bad. So you're saying that it's not all him. It's not all him. It's not a majority of him. It's not, you know, everybody got equal. Everybody got bad on that tape that we saw. So when we looked at it, I was like, oh, man, Deshaun did bad, but so did the receivers.

30:46James Harrison:So did the linemen. So did the running back. So did the defensive linemen. So did the linebackers. So they was bad enough to give all around. Nobody probably performed that well, you know what I'm saying, in the tape. So coaching, we didn't put them in the right position. The players was out there looking bad. We got to put them in better positions. The players got to make better plays. That's basically what I heard. Because I'm like, when you watched the tape and you said, yeah, I mean, we got to play better around them. We got to coach better around them. Deshaun, I mean, obviously, it just was bad.

31:19James Harrison:And I think that's what he was saying. So he don't want to over say like, oh, no, Deshaun was out there looking terrible because it was 16 for 24. And he threw a pick and he didn't really, he was a lot of dinking and dunks. He got short. For everything he said. It was bad. was confirmation that he should be starting against the Bucs. That's what I'm saying, though. When he's saying about the starting against the Bucs, he didn't really even say that. He just was saying, I mean, but with that, I don't know. I don't know how much longer either Deshaun needs to play better, obviously, the coach calls some better plays next game.

31:56James Harrison:We're going to obviously see. It was one game. It was one game. A terrible, terrible game. Everybody, Debo, that game was so bad. I agree. The whole game was bad. It was like, there's nothing he could say from anybody that really played well to be like, oh, yeah, dude. I'm like, yeah. Remember what he said after the game? I'm not going to fire myself. I'm like, shit. Well, you're damn right. You're going to be here. So it's time for the, we're going to have to obviously figure it out. So now, but going after week two, the whole team, everybody has to play better. But we know now, come on, coach.

32:28James Harrison:Deshaun, that was not, that was not well. So if he does that performance again, the quarterback position is a position that we need to, we have Shador to go see if he's going to be able to make our offense look better. Push the ball downfield. When we got those, that 60-yard pass to Boston, 50-yard pass, where was that in the first half? Like, I like to see at least give us Shador out there to throw the ball down the field. You said Deshaun was going to give us pre-snap. His stuff right before the, we had delayed games. We had false starts. We had all that. So if he's not doing that better in the second game.

32:59James Harrison:So Shador couldn't have did that better, right? I don't know. But you got, can we see? I don't know. I don't know. You told, he was telling us he was doing it in practice. I would have, well, you could have, we didn't see practice. Oh, he had the best week of practice. Was that what his practice was looking like? I don't know. I hope not. Because if it was, that's not good enough to win. Well, I mean, the film confirmed it after he got a look at it because he didn't know nothing about it before that. But the film confirmed it. He looked at it. And I'm not going to lie to you, Joe. This is the Dan Levitard Show.

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36:31James Harrison:I mean, I'm gonna have to like totally agree with him. You know, I think actually, I think, you know, it was more the offensive line and the play calling than it was, you know, Watson solely, you know, I mean, the man was sacked five times, Joe, you know, I mean, I mean, how many times was he out there running for his life? Matter of fact, like, the offensive line is probably more the cause than all this because they ain't getting no runs. They ain't protecting this man in the past. Like, on top of that, like, it was, what, 11 penalties for 75 yards? Yes. Joe, the Steelers? Yes. we, me, us, I'm saying all this as a Stiller fan.

37:30James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? I'm not saying this as a Browns fan, Joe. Now, if I was a Browns fan, if and I had, you know, converted back. If you was here and me and you was having a conversation and you was trying to be there for me, for your brother, that's what I'm saying because you said you do care. Oh, I'm saying this as a Stiller fan. That's how I'm talking. I'm saying come over here real quick. I heard what you said. So now what would you come over there? Yeah, real quick. Just have a conversation. What would you say to this? All right. This is what I would say, Joe. I would say. I would say.

38:10James Harrison:If and if and I was going back into when I was a child and I was doing childish things, you know, and behaving like a child and being a Browns fan, and I wasn't quite yet a man as I am today, and I reverted back, I would say, yo, your boy, he got sacked five times, okay? And I think maybe one or two of them offensive linemen actually got, like, worked on, beat on. The other ones, it was a combination of he actually had time. Or it was some type of blitz coming where the communication, all that pre-stuff that they said he did better. He wasn't communicating it with the line or however you want to look at it.

39:01James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? So I'm putting it on him. That's what I'm doing. I'm putting it on him. Because when you look at it, our offensive line, Drew, the Steelers' offensive line. If you look at the pro football focus, we're almost 7.5 points lower than the Browns offensive line were, which means we play worse and we only had two sacks. Why? Because we had Aaron Rodgers and he's going to get the ball out of time and get it where it got to go. So if it's me and I'm actually a Browns fan, I don't I'm not buying this, but you buy it. You buy it. I don't buy it. That's funny. Sound like you was buying it to me, Joe.

39:41James Harrison:No, D-Ball, I'm not. You're saying there was enough blame to go around, Joseph. I'm just trying to explain what he was saying. I don't agree. You don't agree. I don't agree. But, I mean, I see what he's saying. Everybody, it was an overall bad, bad experience. And even if Deshaun did play terribly the first, I wouldn't have started him off the rip. But at least you just can't play in one game. Well, you wouldn't have started him off the rip. I wouldn't have started him off the rip. So that's where I've been saying that. So then when we go with our guy, Deshaun, the coach in the organization, I'm going to go with him because I want my team to win, not because I don't want Deshaun because I want to be right.

40:25James Harrison:Like, no, start Shador. Okay, we started Deshaun. I want you to succeed. I want you to play well. But if you don't, then I know we're going to have to move forward and put in Shador because I think he has a better chance pushing the ball downfield and giving us a chance to score points. Well, Joe, your thoughts and your beliefs and everybody else's, you know, that's. It's a brotherhood. You know why? Because Coach said, because Coach said, when you heard what he said, do you think the team has Deshaun Watson's back? He said, I don't care what they think. I don't care who they have back. Listen to it.

40:56James Harrison:We got it right here. Todd Monken had this to say about his decision to start Deshaun Watson for the Bucs game, man. Here's what he had to say. Listen to it. we'd have to ask you every one of those guys you said 100 percent um and really to be honest i mean they don't have they don't have a choice i mean this isn't a debate and i don't ask the players what every series what play i'm going to call what play we're going to call in defense like their jobs to play our jobs put the best player on the field that we think gives us a chance to win and i love our guys but the moment we get into that in terms of who this guy should be playing what we're doing this, what we ought to be calling.

41:33We've lost sight of the target, which is to own it and fix it and try like hell to get better. And that's irrespective of what goes out there. But there's decisions that are made at every position. Quarterback just happens to be one of those. But ultimately, I don't blame people for having opinions, but ultimately it's for all of us to support who we put on the field that gives us the best chance to win.

41:58James Harrison:Joe are you uh able to support a decision that maybe most of the team or some of the team or some of the fans or all of the fans aren't aren't aren't aren't on the side of or aren't positive or aren't um supportive of this is the thing it's all supposed to be performance based so in the locker room. We practice with these dudes, Debo. Like, you know, when you practice with somebody, dudes know who's good, who's not good. Who's making better passes, who's not making better passes. Who's hitting the guys, who's just doing great plays. So I think when you have a wide receiver and there's a wide receiver competition, the dude that's playing better, that's making better catches, that's making better plays, he's obviously going to be the one that's playing.

42:49James Harrison:The dude that throws the ball better and puts us in the best position is normally going to be the one that plays. So normally when you're playing on the team, you don't have to have that feeling because you know the best player is out there. So you're obviously supporting the guy that's going to get the job done. I don't care. You control what you can control. You're not going to be sitting there and if you're a corner worried about who they play, who they're starting at quarterback. You want the best quarterback. Obviously you're thinking you're playing, your team, your coaches, your owner wants you to win.

43:18James Harrison:So their job is to put the best person out there, period. So when you're a team and you're a player, like obviously you're thinking you're playing, the starting quarterback is the best player we have on our team to help us win. So my job is not to, like, I'm obviously going to support him, but if you're looking in the games and you're playing and you see at practice, there's dudes that just just keep throwing picks. Like the same way you keep seeing the receiver, he keeps dropping balls. Why is this other guy not playing? Because he just keeps catching the ball. It's more something where, oh, I think that's not a dumb thing to say.

43:49James Harrison:So when you're saying like, oh, I don't care if the team has the support, you don't have to like that. You can't make somebody support somebody. People, we're human beings. We have eyes. We're professional athletes. We see what's going on out there. You don't got to tell me that I'm the best corner on the team. Watch me at practice. You don't have to go out there and be like, oh, yeah, that dude right there, Joe, he's strapping. Like, he's the best corner on your team. You know it because you see what he does. His effort on the tape. He's our number one corner. he's starting and the other corners in there in the locker room they'd be like this who's the best corner they'd be like yeah and that's just out of respect if ab's in the locker room he's putting up these numbers he's doing what he does okay who walk you walk in there you see him practicing he's the best one on the team just because he's doing things that other people can't do so when he says this it kind of just is like duh but we would hope that the player that that you put out there is the best player for our team to win.

44:47James Harrison:So obviously coaches are going to say that because you're not going to be, you know, nobody's asking me, who should we put in that quarterback? Nobody's asking our starting tackle. Nobody's asking TJ Watt. Who should I start? Mason Rudolph or should we keep Drew Aller? No, that's not your position. That's not your place. That's over your pay grade. Your job is to be the best outside linebacker you can possibly be because You have a contract that you have to worry about, and you have to make sure that you're holding up your end because you got another deal coming. So you got to watch your own luggage.

45:21James Harrison:When Coach is saying this, I understand what he's saying, but at the same time, that's an obvious point because players normally, you're playing the best guy. So we don't have to worry about the support. We know who we're supporting. We're supporting the dude that's going to help us win games. Joe, I 100 % agree with you. I just like giving you a little over there when there's something going on in Cleveland. man let's go on over here to Pittsburgh man and see what's going on man what's going on with Joey Porter Jr we'll see what's going on with nephew we have a I guess Ari

45:55James Harrison:Mayroff says that uh it's uh not they're not in a good place over there listen the Steelers and quarterback Joey Porter Jr are not in a good place and we saw that on Sunday he did not play They called it a back issue. You could have seen this happening from 100 miles away. The Steelers extended Arnott Washington. They extended Nick Herbig. They extended Keanu Benton. They never, ever engaged with Joey Porter Jr., which is odd because Joey is from the same draft class as those three players, and he was the highest of all those four players. Two weeks before the season started, the Steelers decided to get serious, and the first offer, from my understanding, was an insulting offer.

46:36The last offer, which happened over the weekend, from my understanding, was not structure that Joey Porter Jr. would have liked to get for the caliber of player he has been and the caliber of player he's going to continue to be. So he declined that offer. The Steelers have this longstanding policy. We do not negotiate it during the season. If you want to get a deal done, it's before the season. So teams around the NFL are wondering, hey, could we trade for him and give up maybe a draft pick and a player so the Steelers could get some help for this year? Because obviously they want to win this year.

47:07They have a 42-year-old quarterback. They're not going to trade away Joey Porter Jr. just to get a pick for next year. It wouldn't make much sense. But teams are wondering if we could maybe find a package that would make sense for both sides so Joey Porter Jr. could get the first start that he wants and maybe also get the contract that he wants and be somewhere where he is appreciated, where right now, in his eyes, the Steelers have not been appreciating him for what they've done this offseason.

47:34James Harrison:Joe. Yo. What are your thoughts? You think he going anywhere with this? You think he got a new room to stand on that? You know, I think it's definitely getting – it's to a point now, Debo, I thought that it was going to be done before the season started. Because the Steelers, like we said, they don't do contracts during the season. And that's a team thing. That's something that can be adjusted. It's not like it's a rule or anything like that, but that's just something that the Steelers always play by. So unless you get something done before the season, it looks like in their history, a contract isn't going to get done.

48:19James Harrison:So Joey Porter's contract not getting done before the first game of the season, I lied to you not. I was messed up about it because now it's like, damn, it's really bad. It's to the point where I have to move out and move out from my personal relationship of wanting PZ to be good. And, you know what I'm saying? Like, dang, now you really in a lock halt with the Pittsburgh Steelers. You know what I'm saying? So when it comes down to it, this is the issue. Go ahead. You did not start negotiations until a couple weeks ago. Like, that's a bad starting point when you want to get something done before then.

48:58James Harrison:And then, as he said, it was a lowball offer, and then the next one, it was supposed to be a structure issue that went on and so on and so forth. But when you actually look at it, you say, okay, the rumor is like it's a structure issue. So if it's a structure issue, I went and I started going down the rabbit trail. You know how that goes. Yeah. And you got somebody that was do we have that tweet? It was a guy named, I guess, Frank Smith, Frank Michael Smith. There he is. And he actually. said that a source close to Joey Porter Jr. told me the only piece blocking a deal was the guaranteed money.

50:01James Harrison:They said in a four-year deal, the Stillers won't commit to anything over$33 million dollars porter requested guarantee cash they said closer to gonzalez and witherspoon or i guess around that million dollar range and gonzalez is a million is a hundred million um hundred million hundred and two million guarantee sorry and witherspoon is a 101.25 guarantee so I guess the guarantee is the issue and if they're saying the guarantee here was 33 like this is the Dan Levitard show this is Dan Levitard and I've been doing this for more than two decades our show is contagious it's a little bit addictive it's in the most positive of ways it has a good amount of range from smart to silly and it's got a journalistic backbone Monday through Friday I show up and talk about sports.

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