Deebo & Joe - Part 1: CJ Stroud Under Pressure, Mike McCarthy Coach of the Year? + Brady Calls Out NFL

25:25James Harrison:It helps them to be able to play their position because it will be a sound defense. Yes. And when you come down to it, bro, like I could have the greatest player in the world if my defense is not sound it don't matter you got guys out there that are out of position and we're thinking they're out of position but they're not because the same guy that's doing that thing at that position playing the same spot later is doing the same thing so obviously you're being taught something that is absolutely not going to help make this defense better or help you to finish those plays so for me I believe you will have a chance now to actually see a measurable comparison of coaching with a coach that coaches and a coach that motivates.

26:27James Harrison:That's what I think. Only time will tell. Yes. Because for me, what would get him coach of the year? because when you go back to it, you go to last year, we're coming back basically with the same offense, same defense, right? We got this old quarterback, that 42-year-old quarterback can't do nothing. Right? Yes. So the only thing that would have been a major change is the coaches, right? Yeah. Okay. Now, for him to be coach of the year, you take a 25 offense and a 24 defense or it was vice versa. It was switch. It was 25 or 24. Yes. Now they both jump into the top five. Does that make him coach of the year with a playoff win, two or a Super Bowl?

27:14James Harrison:Does that make him coach of the year to you? You tell me. A thousand percent. What would be the minimum requirements for you, for him to be considered coach of the year? Like you just stated, Debo, I think when he comes in right now, like you said, he's going to come in now with the new energy where end of the day, we have the talent here on the team. So keeping everybody accountable for their play on the field. That's all it is. I think that they got a little bit of leniency and a little bit of smoothness and a little bit of letting everything just be blase. Where that's where just Coach T, you know, and it's not, but it's just years of being around and just, it just got comfortable.

27:52James Harrison:New coach coming in, Coach McCarthy from Pittsburgh, loves the area, knows what he got to do. He understands the situation that he's in. So do the players. So does T.J. Watt. So does Cam Hayward. So does Jalen Ramsey, DK Metcalf, Michael Pittman Jr. End of the day, I believe that he can do it because he's just speaking on, we know, Debo, when we say this about our defense, the players that are out there, we know they can play. We know that the way that we can tell the coach is if they're being coached and nobody's running scot-free. The players out there, we've seen them be the best in the league.

28:28James Harrison:We've seen them go to Pro Bowls. We've seen them be all pros. When we see them, we just need to see them as a team executing as one. Talking. Consistently. Playing, play out. Consistently. And that comes from now, we'll know, with coaching. That's going to tell by, if the people aren't running scot-free through our defense, our defensive ranking is going to drop down to the top 10. We ain't got cats throwing hands, doing this. Dude's doing this. Dude's pointing. If a body's on a body, our defense is top 10. Period. Once dudes start making plays, our defense can be number one. So just people on everybody, just lining it up and just line it up.

29:02James Harrison:Now they make them beat you lining up against us. You're going to be 10. Start making some plays. TJ, start batting balls in the air. Cam Hayward, start doing your thing. Jalen Ramsey, making some picks. Let's turn some of those batted balls. Don't let the batted balls hit the ground. We start making those extra plays. Now our defense is top five. We're talking about two defense in the league. Just because we're not making no bullshit plays. We're not giving up bombs for no reason. We're not just sitting out there looking around. Now, if everybody's lined up, everybody's communicated, we know what's going on, now beat us.

29:32James Harrison:Now we can see what's going on, who's not making their plays, why aren't you in your gaps? Then it just looks like a disciplined defense, and we see if somebody makes a play, it's because somebody was right there putting their hand in, and they're like, ooh, that meant nice play. Boom, line it back up. We can live with that. On the offensive side of the ball, everybody keeps talking about we got old man Aaron. We understand that. Whoever just came back with Phillip Rivers at 45 off the couch, and was swinging the ball for him. Don't tell me Aaron Rodgers is not way better than that. So we get him to get the boys on our team where we get good running game.

30:07James Harrison:Aaron Rodgers is smart over his shoulders. He still spins the rock. People last season were dropping some passes. So what takes it to you where all of this combines to where you say at this level of what do you feel like, oh, automatic coach of the year? We got a 25-24 offense defense. They finish, they get. We go top 10 in both. We go to the playoffs. We win the division. Again, we get top 10 in offense and defense. You know what I'm saying? And yeah, we win our division. And then we win our first playoff game. We win our playoff game. Second playoff. And he's coach of the year for me. I just want to see top 10 on both with just consistency of our offense looking good.

30:55James Harrison:Our defense looking good. we look like a good football team. Like, not turnovers, not false starts, not people jumping off sides. If you lose... The things that you can control. The things you can control. Don't sit out there and be out there moving around, everybody looking crazy. We're not getting to the line. We're not getting out of the huddle on time. I'm like, let me see our team look like a professional football team. Executing, running plays, people moving in and out of the snap. There's no confusion. Like, I don't want us to see looking confused. We look like we're lined up, and now you got to come beat us on the offensive side and the defensive side.

31:30James Harrison:So that's what I'm saying. You're going to see coaching because you're going to see discipline. You're not going to see people pre-snap penalties. You're not going to see bullshit like that. You're going to see special teams executing. You're going to just see a good coached football team. So when I see that, and we have the players that are going to be ballers, so we'll be watching them on the offensive line. Who's not holding up your blocks? D-line, are you getting pushed back? Queen, like if you got – I'm going to see them running free and making plays is because nobody's peeking. You know what I'm saying?

31:57James Harrison:D-line is everybody's holding their own. Stay in your spot. Do your job. So when they do that, I'm like, well, we got the squad. So when Bucky's saying this, I'm like, he knows. Everybody's just playing with the Steelers because next thing you know, they're just going to be, you're going to be 8-8, 8-8. If you win those games that you lose by two, lose by three, because of the little things that are just little stuff. Don't beat yourself. You know what I'm saying? Like the little stuff. You win great all three quarters. They give up everything in the four. In the four. And everybody's looking crazy.

32:27James Harrison:And they're like, oh, no, we're ass. No, we're not. You're really, really good. All you got to do is be disciplined, fight through the whole game. You know what I'm saying? Like things are going to happen. Just don't get too up. Don't get too down. And just play football. So I'm thinking if Mike McCarthy comes in, understanding this, saying what we're saying, play the game. And the players like Cam, TJ, they know. They know when it's good. They know when it's bad. And you got good leadership. Cam wants to be great. TJ wants to be great. Jalen Ramsey wants to be great. Highsmith. So, them pushing each other.

33:01James Harrison:Them knowing, like, it's not just about that. Listen to that. Listen to all them names you just said, man. Those are goals. What? Those are goals. Hell, the offense ain't been in the top. I know. 23? They've been in the top 23. That's the highest. Lowest is 30. That's what the offense has been. Huh? Yeah. Since 18? What? So that's what I'm saying. The paperwork, you look good on paper, but it's not good enough until when you see them out there executing. And we're going to know if the coaches are going to be putting people in the position and we're not seeing nobody run free. If I see that, then that's what I'm rocking with coach.

33:39James Harrison:Like, OK, you got everybody on the same page. The team is out there disciplined, a disciplined football team. Yeah, that like I said, buddy, I'm excited to see. Me too. What's the season going to look like? How it's going to play out? And, you know, what everybody going to be saying come the break? The good thing is, Debo, we know what a team is. And like you said, it's only going to be until they get out there to play so we can really see, you know what I'm saying, what's going on when they get out there. Because all it is is paper play right now. But we know at the end of the day, people are sleeping on the Steelers because they just don't expect them to really do nothing.

34:19James Harrison:But, you know, when you really look at the roster and you see who's on the team, you're like, if they do lock in, it's going to be problems. It's going to be trouble. Put me in position. Put these players in position so they can make plays. And not have them playing in unsound offenses, defenses that don't shore up or play to the strengths, especially on offense or the players that we have. And then on defense, like, put the right guy in the right spot. We got some guys playing in a spot that they don't need to be playing in. Like, yo, mm-mm. Like I said, man, we get a chance to go back out here and show them what it really means to play Pittsburgh Steelers football.

35:03James Harrison:We ain't lying. Weekend, week out. Snap in, snap out. Yes. Lock in. Yes. Yes, Lord. Tom Brady and probably sides with the players over the league's fine system for off for on field and fractions. Right. Listen to what this man said. This is what happens. They start finding you fifty thousand dollars, seventy five thousand dollars. And I'm saying, like, I hate that. I hate the fact that, like, you sign a contract for two million dollars a year, five million dollars a year. And it's so easy for someone to say, give me seventy five thousand. Give me fifty thousand. Oh, it's your second offense. That's one hundred.

35:43That's your third. me about it yeah boy i mean i know i've seen a lot of i've suffered i've suffered honestly i know but i like this is like what job what job is like that in the world where you make a mistake at your job and they come in they go hey we're gonna take your salary away yeah and then people are like yeah you should take your salary away and i'm like i've been finished i know

36:07hey joe man look here man listen i'm gonna tell you boys something i'm talking to the

36:13James Harrison:owners. I'm trying to tell y 'all, man, hey, listen, when y 'all let a player in there, as an owner that done played this game, and Tom Brady is a player, a true player. A true player. For the Himalayas. Hey, hey, no question about it. And he will always be a player, okay? So he knows what these guys go through because he's been through it. He's seen guys that are suffering through other stuff. Like, he sees the effects of all this stuff going on. So, I don't know what made y 'all think he was not going to speak his mind on any of this stuff when he would be asked, you know, questions on. I mean, he's speaking factually.

36:53James Harrison:Everything he said is facts. Fines are out of control. There's no way you think you think finding a player, dude, 50, 60,$100 ,000 dude for making a mistake in judgment. You're talking about timing. like literally timing why is it always chaos when we link up because nobody plans anything bro good thing the rogue's ready like that for real rain dirt whatever available all-wheel drive five modes we still outside and they got some kick too that turbo torque is crazy the most in its class it moves moves rogue doesn't mess around and peep the space merch on merch gear mics all of it fits load up we out 2026 nissan rogue built for all of it auto pacific segmentation 2026 rogue versus latest in-market competitors in the x suv mainstream midsides class excluding electrical vehicles based on manufacturer websites hi i'm cindy crawford and i'm the founder of meaningful beauty well i don't know about you but like i never liked being told oh wow you look so good for your age.

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40:21James Harrison:Talking about bang, bang plays, dude. Full fucking speed, bro. Guys are getting faster, okay? You think finding a guy for a mistake is the thing to do that they're going to stop doing? But, dude, I can see if it's blatantly obvious that he's doing it. I get that. But remember, Joe, I'm going to actually tell you what they told me. Yeah, you. When I was going through my fine situation, okay? Yes. They told me we don't take into intent. They don't take into account intent. Intent. Bruh, they fined me$75 ,000. And then now, dude, they fined people$50 ,000 in preseason. And these guys are making, what, two, three grand?

41:02James Harrison:That's what I'm saying. A week? That's crazy. And you find this man$50 ,000 for a game? Yeah. One game that he played over, he ain't going to even make that much money, dude. Like, this is, dude, weak-ass NFL PA, dude. I'm trying to tell you, dude. Like, this, this, this, this, ever since Gene's up, Shaw's passing, and we got DeMarie Smith, dude, as the NFL executive, all they did was try and put themselves in position to keep their jobs in power and did nothing for the player. But anyway, go back to what time. Time talking truth, bro. 2009, was it? When they started doing the fines. That hit that I had on Masquire, bro.

41:38James Harrison:Yes. $75 ,000. You know what that was supposed to be? Five grand. Five grand. Bro, I never forget, bro. Mike calls me. Mike T called me. He said, they're about to hit you with$75 ,000. I said, the fuck what they is? Dude, who? I quit. No, they not. I said, yeah, I'm just, I'm calling him, let you know. Bro, I was, bro, I was so mad, bro. I didn't know what to do. So. I'm going to ask you this question, D-Bo. If they were to find you 5 ,000, would that have deterred you from hitting, trying to, what are you talking about? That hit was illegal when I did it. They changed the rules in the middle of the game, bro.

42:23James Harrison:It was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was. the league yeah the league they can't that's that's fucked up d-bo that's what i'm saying that's messed up d-bo cast nflp all the good but anyway we're talking about tom here okay time and these fines brother so i'm getting fined bro and i go i got fined again for something i don't know what the hell it was right so i think it might have been after that but we're going up there they want me to come up there and sit down and explain to them uh you know the the league office so i'm in new york merton hanks it's you know all the head you know all the all the rest people you know what i'm saying so yes and i fly up there so we go up there they got they sent kevin colbert with me the gm at the time okay okay yo bro kevin colbert og listen i didn't i thought they were sending me with, listen, he wasn't no help.

43:22James Harrison:Let's just say that. I'm thinking I'm going with the GM, right? Okay. I'm like, okay. All right. Dude, I ain't gonna even lie, bro. Listen. I mean, God can just go out to forgive me because I'm gonna let you know what I was thinking back then. I was thinking messed up back then. You know what I'm saying? So, bro, we get there and they start pulling up the film and they're Yes. They're watching. They're watching each play and they're like, yo, explain this play what you were thinking in this. You know, I'm like, OK, blah, blah, blah. And Kevin's like, you can clearly see he's not trying to. I'm like, OK, yeah.

43:58James Harrison:OK, cool. Got my back. Right. Yeah. Right. Yeah. And so we go again. And then they started going back. They went back like four or five years. I think you're only supposed to go back three. And Kevin's like, you can't go back this far. What the hell are you guys doing? Oh, you know you're not allowed. I'm like, damn, they done sent me with an assassin. He do not like these folks, bro. And I'm like, I'm liking it, but I'm like, damn, I know I ain't about to get no money back, right? Yeah, no, for sure. So I'm like, you know what, man? We got to play. And I just say, and Roger is just sitting in the back.

44:27James Harrison:This is when I could have, man, Lord Jesus, forgive me. I would have did whatever I could if I thought I could have got away with it back then, bro. But anyway, so he's sitting in the corner. He ain't saying nothing. And you got me hurting Hanks over here. And he, you know, he's doing all the talking. But, you know, he got that shape thing, you know. and he like well okay well if you do this and that you can't i'm like dude you can see that i'm not trying to hit this cat like here or there i said listen here tell me why y 'all find me on this hit right here with uh with master quad yes i'm like was it because it was too hard like i'm like just tell me it's like well you know it was it was a helmet to helmet and i'm like we didn't have that before like what are you guys talking about like well i'm just telling you da da da roger's still sitting over there ain't saying nothing Murray Hanks still over here shaking like drugstore Dyson so finally I go look here I say okay so it was just helmet to helmet that's what you're saying all right cool okay I said so if I go to tackle him and I go to dive at his ankle to tackle him and at last second he bends all the way down and throws his head in front of his foot and I touch his helmet is that a fine on me he said yep that's all your fault I said cool we're done.

45:40James Harrison:There's nothing you can do. And I walked out, Joe. He go come into the bathroom. Hey, look, I was just trying to, you know, I know how it is to play defense. I said, man, get the fuck out of my face, man. Go out there and say that shit in front of your boss that's sitting in the corner. Don't come over here and try and sugar talk me, bro. No, is the 75 still the 75? We have nothing to talk about. Man, they kicked off 25, but I still didn't like it. You was trying to make me the poster board for your new rules because y 'all was about to get sued. for all these head traumas and these concussions.

46:13James Harrison:Yeah, that's what it came down to. So, Debo, so you're saying, because I'm just trying to figure out, when was the change? Because there was jacked up. The change wasn't, the change itself, as far as what they did, they changed it in the middle of the game. Literally. Because I'm saying. Then they put rules into it the next week. New rules, you know, adjustment, da-da-da. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was two plays. It was like two or three plays, like back-to-back. Like, all these lawsuits were pending and compounding. Period. That's what it came down to. They're like, you know what? We got to show that we really into this concussion thing.

46:46James Harrison:We going to take care of players' safety and da-da-da-da-da before these lawsuits hit. Because they had already, all that stuff, it went down when it was like 2007 they had started, 2006, something like that, dude. It had originally started. And now it was coming to a head. Yeah. Dude, stop it. Stop it. I know what it is, bro. Like, you took a shot and they was like, yo, we're just going to find the hell out. And you're thinking like we're doing this on purpose. Finding the hell out of these guys is not going to stop accidents from happening. Oh. You hit a dude and, like you said, it's a bang, bang.

47:18James Harrison:You go to get lower. He ducks his head to protect himself. You duck your head to go and get down lower. And now you hit helmet to helmet. He gets woozy. You're fine. 15 yards. Ball keep going. and now you done lost$100 ,000,$50 ,000. Yeah. And you a dude that made half a mil. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So you really just lost$100 ,000. And you look, and if you go in there weak, you look crazy because you don't... It's not even about him going in there weak. You still, like, you can't come in there and be like, I'm going to keep my head out of it. No, no, that's what I'm saying. You realize what you're going in here?

47:52James Harrison:No, no, that's what I'm saying. Debo, Debo, going weak, going weak means you're thinking about it. When you're making reactions and you're just going and you're seeing it, you're just exploding and launching? Yes. You're starting to prepare and trying to angle it. That means, that's what I'm saying, you're going weak. Because you're like, you're not being able. You're going in there, and now you can catch the ball and keep going. They're like, how did you miss him? I'm trying to line them up the right way. I'm going to tell you right now, that catch that, was it Diggs? Diggs, on the sideline. Because he was afraid he was going to hit him.

48:26James Harrison:That's the only reason he missed that. A thousand percent. That's why the game now legitimately for, I mean, DBs especially has changed because them coming across the middle. It was when you when you would launch people, we launch and you come and you hit them up top and sweep their legs under. Right now, you got to launch like in this low. So when they're changing their body positions, if they can understand when he's coming down, I'm already trying to go lower. because if I launch, I'm already taking them off the top. So now I understand those ones that you're trying to take out of the league, understandable.

49:02James Harrison:The ones when dudes are coming across, that's safety first. So, like, we see, we lining them up because that's the way you know we're going to dislodge this ball and it's going to be bomb. You've got to line him up. He's coming across the middle. You've got to catch the ball. You have to line him up. Defenseless receiver. Defenseless receiver, you go, you line him up, right? The last second he sees you, you got him lined up and he do that. Now the bottom of your helmet hits the top of his chin. Now it's flagged. Now it's flagged. I'm saying if you are that area for the players, if you jumping up, launching, and going up top, flagged.

49:40James Harrison:If he's catching the ball coming down and you still nying him, you're trying to go down, but that space, you can't time that. There's no way. So if that helmet, helmet, that's accidental. So with those, it's like. That's why they take out in 10. It don't matter. No, no, no. What I'm telling you is the way it should be, the way that the game is, the way that it should be is if he's coming down, you know, there's nothing we could do. We're coming, we're trying to tackle, we're trying to go low. That should be no harm, no foul. When he's coming across and we see the lineup and then we jump into him and line, boom, throw it at us.

50:14James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? Because we can get that. Like we can see the angle. We can go a little lower and take him low instead of going high. The ones when he's catching and he's coming down with the ball, We used to be able to hit him before he hits the ground on the second bounce. Now we're just trying to find him and hit somewhere because you got to have some type of punishment or cause about going across the middle. That's what makes football football. That's what got intimidated back in the day. You're not just running across. You can do it. You just got to play dirty. Yeah. That's dirty.

50:46James Harrison:And you sometimes have to do it. If you're a dude like you that got a damn tight end coming across, that's damn old dude we got. Washington. If he coming across the middle and you catching him coming across the middle and he probably catch the ball. It's unfortunate. It's going to be unfortunate. Because I'm going for that leg. I have to. I'm shooting through your knee because I don't want to hit your thigh and put myself out of my neck. Swipe them joints out. because as soon as you turn to see me, I'm not, I'm going to hit me with a meanest stiff arm. Boom. And then what? In front of my wife and kids?

51:22James Harrison:No, sir. I got to take them legs out, coach. I got a family to feed. Got to go. Got to go. I got family to feed. You think I got, you think I could go home and let this play until my son's 16 and then he think he could do it to me too? Come on, man. I'm already victim weight. I got to show my fight or flight. I got to put him down. I got to put him down. God, my witness. You on the ground, Debo. Give me. Come on, I ain't never been scared to tackle. That's one thing. I ain't never been scared to tackle. Listen, man. Listen, Tom knows it, man. He played the game, man. He does. I tell you that. He sees it.

51:55James Harrison:He understands it. Like, it's. Those numbers. No. The fines that you want to make big like that is the fines where dudes is like, well, I'm going to wear my clothes however I want to. Debo, I was about to. Make those big like that. Debo, I promise you, I was about to say the same thing. The fines, I've never been fined for hitting somebody too hard. I've only been fined for trying to be too fly and wear my own gear and look away. We always got them people coming in. Joe, we need to see the socks. You know what I'm saying? You got too much, you know what I'm saying, your knee. You got to make sure.

52:31James Harrison:I'm like, okay, all right, check, check. But sometimes when you walk out there, I'm like, all right. So those fines, Debo, respectfully, because you need to make the uniform. It is uniform. Maybe not making this all look like an Under Armour mannequin. You know what I'm saying? Let us get a little bit of drip in there. No, no, no, no, no. You got a little uniform across the board. The uniform police. No problem with that, Joe. Okay. No, I'm rocking with it. I'm just saying, let me wear whatever color cleat. Can I wear any color cleats? Do you think cleats is a problem? I think it's only any color cleat when it's any color cleat time.

53:02James Harrison:This is their grounds. This is what they do. This is the NFL. You work for them. Okay, Debo. You dress at work with the fuck they tell you to wear. You don't go to Chick-fil-A and say I'm going to wear church chicken. I'm just trying to figure out this. Why do you make me have to try to cover my knees when I need my knee out? You know what I'm saying? That makes no sense. You're supposed to have a knee pad on. I shouldn't have no pads. That's crazy that they made me have to put pads in my pants. I'm a DB. When I was a kid, I couldn't wait. When I played football, I couldn't wait to go to the league.

53:31James Harrison:You can tell somebody that you've been in the fire. So I'm going to be out there with the slick pants, no pads. I only was able to do it my rookie season. And then they made thigh pads and knee pads mandatory. Are you kidding me? I ain't never got fine for my uniform. I don't need them. I know you didn't. Never. Never. Look, if I would have got, I should have went to the daggone eye doctor and been able to say, oh, I can't see in the dark. So like you did, so I can get the visor. That's what I should have did. Like I did? I had a blown out orbitable. Like, I blew out my order, a whole potato chip bone gone.

54:04James Harrison:Boom. Okay, no, my bad. My bad, D-Bo. My bad. My bad. You the only person that's supposed to have it. My bad. My bad. That's my bad. My bad. My bad. My bad. My bad. My bad. My bad. My bad. My bad. My bad. My bad. My bad. My bad.

54:30James Harrison:My bad. I'm trying to tell you, yo. 7 ,500. And I wore it twice, and then next week, 15 ,000. I'm like, I'm never wearing this vibe. I can only wear it during the pre-game. Joe, take that visor off. Here, Joe. Here, Joe. God. That's why everybody's looking so sweet. You get them pictures and everything. Like, why you take the visor off? Look, Deebo, look at, that's what I'm talking about. I'm in the pre-game. I'm in the pre-game with the visor. And then they're like, all right, Joe, go ahead, take it off. Take it off. Put the clear one on. I'm like, why? They're like, you know you're going to get, are you going to hit that fine?

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