Deebo & Joe - Part 1: Deebo reacts to Pacman calling him out + Rodgers decision soon? Myles Garrett staying?

22:34Yeah, man. All you got, like, sit back and just look at it. Like, yo. I mean, I think we almost got, like, what, maybe like 27 million in cap room right now. We may have to figure out something, but -

22:43James Harrison:We can move people's stuff into guaranteed money. You know how that stuff goes. You know, three, three, four million? Come on. Mm-hmm. Come on. We can find some way to do something. Mm-hmm. You got that. That ain't going to be hard to do. No, we can finagle. Omar know how to move them numbers around. He was the money man for so long. He know how to get it. Listen, man. That's why he's getting these signings, getting these great deals, making the money long, making the extend out long. You understand what I'm saying, bro? Look here, man. This man Pac-Man has something to say about us recruiting, bro.

23:14See? Listen to it, man. James Harrison had a comment talking about, he been talking to Joe Bro to go to Pittsburgh, this shitty-ass state. We're orange and black, not yellow and black. Our roads do not have big-ass potholes in them when you're driving around. You can ride on 22s and 24s in Cincinnati. But he had the nerve to come out and say that he had to talk to Joe Burrow. I talked to Joe Burrow. Ain't no way in the hell. Joey's Ohio boy. We do not want to go to Pittsburgh. And I know what you're sitting over there grinning and laughing about, Drew, because you play with this shitty-ass organization that had all Fs on this goddamn report card.

23:55It seems like it would be a downgrade to anybody that's leaving Cincinnati to go to goddamn Pittsburgh. I'm just saying, this shit got to stop. It's got to stop right now. And I called James, and I told him, hey, stop tampering with our fucking players, too. Hey, tell me this, though. Then why is Debo saying that? Is he just making stuff up out of thin air? I don't know what Debo on. I think he had done smoked a cigar or something. He'd be chewing up cigars. maybe had to lift too much weight and just came up with this ironic idea about Joe Burrow going to fucking Pittsburgh. This is ridiculous.

24:32Well, listen, still a lot of questions around the Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback position heading into... Well, fine, you won. Don't fuck with ours. Okay, well, listen, if the money's right or if Mr. Brown gets something in return... No, no, no, the money's right. The money is right. Joe Burrow was going to pay 50 a year. well, y 'all ain't got the money to pimp.

24:54Joe.

24:56James Harrison:No, Debo, that's you. What's up? That's me. That's you. Joe. That's you. Hey, look here, man. Yes. Pac-Man called me, okay? Okay.

25:08We had a conversation about Joe Burrell, and let's just say it was...

25:16James Harrison:Was it productive? ah, that's the word I was looking for. It was a productive conversation. There we go. That's what I needed to know. It was a very, I think it was productive. Okay. I think it was productive. So obviously he started off by threatening me with tampering, you know, with the tampering thing. But that don't work because I ain't employed by the Steelers. You are not. We had to throw that out the window. Now, I understand. Ohio boy. I'm Ohio boy myself, Joe. A.K. A.K. Rowdy Rowdy, Westside Summit County. Akron, Ohio, for y 'all that don't know. Okay? Now, and yes, everybody knows. I don't know if they don't know.

26:01I used to be a Browns fan, okay? Yes. And you did. That was when I was a young boy. And as I became a man, you know, as I became a man, I put away childish things. And I became a Steelers fan, Joe. And that was kind of after the Browns fought to keep those shitty colors that just happened to be the identical color of Cincinnati's. and while I am thankful for the opportunity that Mr. Brown gave me back in 2013 to continue my career um and I showed my appreciation Joe by um bringing him the AFC North title here let me yeah the AFC North title I showed him my appreciation good word remember that Mr.

27:02Brown I showed you their appreciation by giving you that AFC North title 2013. Mm-hmm. Hey, I told you the title travel with me now. And I proved that to you now because in 2014, y 'all went to 22nd as a defense in the NFL. When I was there, you was third in defense. And I ended up coming back and going to Pittsburgh. I retired and I went to Pittsburgh. And you know what I did? Hold up. Let me show you this. What I did in Pittsburgh is when I came back in 14, what did I do? I took the North with me. I took the North with me. All right? But. Good word, Debo. As I spent time over there in Cincinnati, Joe, I realized something.

27:45What you realized, Coach? It was nothing that I could do to win a championship there. So, I say this to Mr. Brown. You know, and I know. we know what Joe Burrow deserves. And that's a chance.

28:09James Harrison:Win a championship. Now, I tell you this. I would much rather pay that Joe Burrow 50, 55, 60 than the A, than the A, than the A, than the A. I'm all in for that over anything. No question. Hey, and, and, And listen, now, we know that's not going to happen with Joe Burrow since then. And if you really care about it, you give him a chance, okay, at truly, a truly legendary career with a truly legendary organization. Hey, Mr. Brown, don't you worry about it none. we're going to make it worth it for you. You hear me? We're going to make it worth it for you. I mean, not we. I'll say the Steelers. The Steelers, yeah.

29:05You can't be in cahoots. The Steelers are going to make it worth it for you, Mr. Brown. But, listen, Mr. Brown, sir, you got to listen to the voice of reason. That's me.

29:18James Harrison:He's not going to... I hope... Listen, listen. I'm with you. I'm with you. It's all right there. The show. Listen, you know what? I'm going to call him Mr. Jones now because even though we are friends, that's a good brother. Mr. Adam Jones. That's a good one. But my brother, Joe Burrow, me and him, we go sit on down, puff on one of these nice cigars or two, and we go figure out. And it's not tampering, D-Bo, because you're not employed by the Steelers. You're not tampering. I ain't employed by the Steelers. Uh-uh. Because I know. You on your free will. Joe. You on your free will right now. Joe is missing wearing that gold and purple from LSU and winning championships.

30:15What's the next best thing, Joe? Black and gold. Black and gold and winning the Borders, baby. You know it.

30:22James Harrison:No, see. You know it, Joe. Right now we recruiting. Right now I'm on my staff. Right now I'm not employed by the Steelers, but I'm on my Steelers vibe right now. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. I'm on my Steelers vibe right now. I'm with you right now. Mr. Jones, Pac-Man, Lix is here. We don't care nothing about what you talking about, bro. Yeah. Y 'all getting scared over there. You getting scared. You up there trying to call and all that. You up there talking to people. I'm on three way I'm listening to what you're saying I'm just sitting there they like listening to what he's saying I hear nervousness in his voice Chad Chad Ochocinco Chad Johnson We ain't doing Shut your damn mouth Let that man do what he supposed to do Put the rings in the screen D-Bo The rings looking fire Rings looking on point That don't see.

31:24James Harrison:Ring looking on point. That don't see. I ain't going to lie to you, D-Bo. Yo. Whenever you pull out the ring sometimes, I just be sitting like this. Damn, them just look kind of sweet. Yes, sir. Those look kind of sweet. Hey. Hey. Hey, Joe. What's up? Burrow. Burrow. Burrow. Hey, listen. Don't you worry nothing about what they saying. All is forgiven. All can be forgiven. Everything. but if you want to have a legendary career, just not have legendary numbers, you want to have something to show for it. To show for it? You know where to go. You know where to go. Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe. Tell him, Joe.

32:08James Harrison:See, look, D-Bo, I'm letting you for the recruiting. I already know what it is. He know how I feel about it. He already know. I'm accepting Joe Burrow open arms. That would be unbelievable. And you know what time it is. We got the defense. We getting the receivers. I mean, I don't want to have to give it my – you know. You know what it is, Joe. They having trouble protecting you over there, Joe. Don't even want to talk. They want you to go in there and have shootouts. They don't want to give you no defense. They don't want to give you nobody to try and stop putting points. Definitely got you. You go out there with the Steelers and you keep up.

32:43James Harrison:You throwing up 35 points a game. Might go undefeated. you give me 35 points what? what are we talking about? 35 I'm just saying we just be out there comfortable the man said he wasn't even happy he said he wasn't even happy playing the game he said he had to figure out what was going on how to get his joy back I don't want you to feel that way Joe I want your happiness back I want your joy I want you to love the game I want you to love the game. I got there to Pittsburgh. I love the game. I ain't going to lie to you. I did. Talk to him. Talk to him, Joe. All you got to do is do your 111. Just do your part and you're going to be good.

33:27James Harrison:Just do your part. Talk to him, Joe. You do your job at a high level. How'd it feel, Joe? It felt good. You know? God, first 2017 just was amazing. Woo. Playoffs and all. Lord. Hey, Joe. Joe. Joe. Yo. Tell him how dark it is when you're in Ohio. Tell him how dark that cloud is over you. When you get into week 10, Joe. Hey, tell the truth and shame the devil. All right, you know. I can tell Joe Burrow, being mathematically eliminated, Joe Burrow, that's not a good feeling. I know that. Hey. That hit you. Hey, we ain't never been that. I'm telling you. That's what I'm saying. Always been in the fight.

34:15James Harrison:All right. I'm not talking down the mountain. No more, no more. There will be no more Browns down talk. We talking about the bankers. Let's get into the Browns while we talking about no Browns down talk. High talk. The boys over there, they modified the language of Myles Garrett's contract. Yes. But Andrew Barry says that the team will not trade Myles. He says, Myles is a career Brown. He is one of the facetious of the organization. I think we've been very clear, both past and present, in terms of feelings. I understand all the questions, but I'll be honest. I don't really want to waste a ton more breath on the topic.

34:56Joe, Joe, look here, Joe. This is what I have to say about that. He said if we wanted to trade miles, we wouldn't have needed to make a contract adjustment. Why do you think he made this statement? Why do you think, what was the reason that you would need to do? Why would Miles agree to doing this, to kicking his money back up? Like, why? Joe, you tell me, because that's your GM, Joe.

35:32James Harrison:You know why? Because he doesn't want to keep answering the questions. He could trade Miles if he wants to. He just don't want to have people keep asking all these questions. Obviously, he did it for a reason.

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39:13James Harrison:But he didn't get a reason why he did it, Joe. Because he don't want to know all of this business. He got to make statements that they say, Miles isn't going nowhere. And guess what? When he trades them, he'll be like, you know what? The deal just came along, and then I just had to make this move. The same way— Why would you even make the change in the language anyway then? Why? Because what is everybody thinking? You wouldn't change the language. You would just give that man his money when he's supposed to get his money. Miles wouldn't say, oh, yeah, I'm gonna let you kick my money back. Would you say I'm gonna let you kick my money back and we just doing this because, oh, hell, you felt like doing it?

39:50James Harrison:Miles still, look. You tell the truth, Shane. I'm asking you what would you do, Joe. What would I do what? Would you do what he did, allowing him to kick your money back for no reason with nothing to gain from it, but other than waiting on your money. He gained a little bit. They pushed up some of the, it was like eight million that they pushed up. They moved it up from some years back to go up forward. So it was a little bit of scratch his back, a little bit of scratch their back. So why they do all that? Why not just say, hey, I moved some money up for him to scratch back. Why was he scratching his back?

40:22What you talking about, Joe? Scratching his back for what?

40:25James Harrison:This is what really happened, Debo, okay? Tell me what happened, Joe. The Browns really did it so he can have this from what I told you last week. So he can have time. So he can have time to figure out after the draft if they did want to move Miles, giving himself wiggle room, giving himself a little bit more time. But he said he was never trading Miles. He said if they wanted to trade Miles, they would trade him. He wouldn't need to adjust nothing. He said that was nothing. So he's lying. He's lying. Oh. I would say, for me. Speaking of him lying, I like that because. You asking me. Because look, look, look.

40:59When the team, when they did say, unless, until the deal is done,

41:06James Harrison:until the paperwork is signed, Debo. Yes, sir. Like, the same way with the Max Crosby jump. Everybody thought the deal was done. Oh, yeah. Good faith. In good faith, I say. No. They just going to tell you something. They ain't got to do nothing. they could be working right behind closed doors. He'd be like, no, Miles isn't going nowhere. Talking to the Raiders on the phone. Talking to anybody on the phone. They're going to talk. They're going to be able to have all options open. They're going to tell us, oh, no, right now he's not going nowhere. He could be willing and dealing right now. It's none of our business.

41:36I did see him in conversation with somebody from Philly.

41:40James Harrison:Brother, that's what GMs do. Who else is he going to be at the joint? The GM from Philly, I think. Yeah, yeah. So he's just a liar. No, no, no. He's not a liar. He's lying. He's lying. I mean, well. If you lie, you're a liar. Maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe he's not lying. Maybe he's like, he's not doing it. My coach told me this right here, Joe. At that exact moment. Listen to me now. My coach told me this. He said it took 25 years to become a master bridge builder. He said, but if you suck cock one time, you're a cocksucker for life. Debo. My coach told me that. Let me tell you something. If he's not, you know what?

42:16James Harrison:He's actually not lying. At that very moment, they probably weren't talking about trading Miles while you're asking that question right there. At this very moment, no. At this very moment, Miles is on the team. We're not thinking about trading Miles. He's telling the truth right now as you feel. You could think your mind could change in five minutes. Once he leaves, they'll be like, oh, man, you know what? I'm thinking about actually maybe trading Miles. He could change his mind. Okay. Yeah. They don't have to. Do you think the GMs are sitting there telling you the truth all the time? When he said if he wanted to trade Miles, he wouldn't have needed to make a contract adjustment.

42:57Means that he never said he didn't want to trade Miles. He just said he wouldn't have needed to adjust the contract. You said I could have did it. I could have did it if I wanted. It ain't always about what you say. It's about what you don't say.

43:09James Harrison:Yes. He could have did it. If you wanted to, you could have traded Miles. Okay. Okay. Because right now, your boy, Andrew Berry, he says he'll spend more time with Ty Simpson. And it's wholly realistic for the Browns to add a young quarterback. He said, Arlene would be, if we do add someone to the quarterback room, it would be someone who's a younger player, most likely. Anyone we bring in at that spot on the roster, our thought is that they're competing. They're competing to play. They have something that we like in their skill set, and our expectation would be for them to work hard. So what I'm getting from that, Joe, Yes.

44:06Is that he's saying that he believes Ty Simpson is good enough to compete with Shador Sanders and Deshaun Watson for the starting quarterback position. That's what I'm getting. That's because that's what he said in the statement. That's what he said in the statement. So that's your GM that's cooking that you said was cooking a little bit. like like i'm starting to think he might be cooking on the grill at mcdonald's right now joe tell me something what's going on joe because i don't know if anybody in the nfl nfl execs annulus um commentators that said the man was even he ain't even the top in the draft choice man he in a weak draft class he ain't even the top quarterback but ain't no joe what is he joe what is he he cooking He cooking at McDonald's.

45:01Huh? Tell me what's going on, Joe. What's going on? What's this? Because I can read what he said, and I ain't even got to read in between the lines. It ain't about what he didn't say. It's about what he said. Joe, why you so quiet, Joe? Come on, fight me.

45:18James Harrison:Because I think with this one, I think he might be, it might be a smokescreen. You know, just trying to get other people to look at him higher, other people to look at Ty Simpson higher on their draft board. They cool or something? Who? Him and Ty Simpson. No. What was the point of that? I don't know. Deebo, honestly, honestly, with this one, I don't know. I don't know what Andrew Barry's talking about, okay? Like, I don't know. I don't know why he would go spend more time with them. He must think that he's that good. So if he's going to bring him into the room, he thinks that he can compete with Shador.

46:01What does that tell you about his judgment? You tell me, Joe.

46:07James Harrison:We're not on the same page as this. Every decision that our GM makes, that doesn't mean that I got to sit here and blindly back it. I don't agree. I do not agree. Okay. So with what he's saying right here. But you said he was cooking. Is he still cooking or is he working at McDonald's in the back grill? Just putting the burger on, set temperature. It's still early. He didn't draft him yet. We still acting like the Barons picked the man up in the draft. He asked the man the question. He's going to spend some time with him. Okay, we'll see. Like, you got to spend some time with him. You're wasting time with somebody that you ain't going to draft.

46:43Don't have the potential. Don't even want to look at just to do what, bro?

46:47James Harrison:You're going to do your due diligence. Do your homework. I'm not going to be mad at a man for looking at him. If he thinks he's a good quarterback, okay, study him, see what it is. If he drafts him, then we'll have a whole different conversation. But literally right now, I don't agree. I wouldn't be spending that much time with Ty Simpson if I was Andrew Barry, if I were the GM for the Browns. Quarterback's good. We got Deshaun. We got Shador here. We already drafted Dylan last year. We're trying to figure out what's going on. We got three. We're solid. Ty? No. If I was the GM, but this is Andrew Barry and that's why I said, this is what he said, I don't agree.

47:22James Harrison:I wouldn't be doing it. But he is. So I'm like, can't knock it. Hopefully he probably thinks he's good. Like everything he said, he might be throwing a smokescreen. I don't know. Probably not. You said why. Does he know Ty Simpson? Probably he doesn't. So it's not a smokescreen. You're correct, Deebo. I don't know why he's doing it. I wouldn't. But I guess he likes him. Yo, that's the only time I bring out my cigar and rings is for like all that good stuff. But you know what's second best to that and almost damn there is good. What? Browns and Cincinnati doing insane stupid shit. Oh, it's great.

48:03Oh, it's great.

48:05James Harrison:Listen, listen, we're going to just charge. We're acting like he drafted Ty Simpson up. So I'm not going to sit there and smack it like, no, I wouldn't have done this. But we'll see. We still got the draft coming. We'll see what he does. He still, he still. Is you drinking? He's off cooking. No, man, that's coffee. Did you spike it with something? No, man. I need to. You look like you need a drink. You're stressing me out. I don't, Joe, Joe, listen. You was my brother. I did not mean to stress you out. That's what I'm thinking. I didn't stress you out. I can't be in charge of how you react to the simple things that your GM is doing that you said was doing some cooking and I told you he was boiling chicken he's not boiling chicken because Ty Simpson is still a first round pick though people still got him going as a first rounder

49:01you want him at your you want him at your team you want him in your room

49:09James Harrison:he's not he's not he's not bad i i i what i had joe use the most not question to answer dude ever bro i asked you a simple question joe no because no i already said no because i like your door more i like your door more some other people might like tight and i don't think he's a bad quarterback he could still be a first round pick better better better than better you like him better than Watson, maybe he could come in and... See? No, we don't need him over here. That's all I'm saying. Cleveland for the first time. That's all you had to say, man. I feel like we don't need a quarterback for the first time.

49:45James Harrison:Say it with your chest. We don't need a quarterback right now. That's what I'm saying. I've been saying it. Poke that thing out, Joe. I lift weights, Joe. I lift weights and we don't need a quarterback.

50:01Dang. I'm about to go do bitch up my road. You know you my guy, man. Thank you, brother.

50:09James Harrison:Brother, man. Brother from another. I got to throw some. I'm getting some Baileys in this coffee. Got me stressing. Got you stressing, man. Look here, man. After the NFL PA report cards came out, the training staff for the San Francisco 49ers decided to take action. GM John Lentz said that the team dug deeper into the grades and what they could do to improve things. The club found out that players wanted more one on one attention, which led to them hiring three more physical therapists and investing nine million into hydro areas like cold plunges, pools, which had previously graded low. Joe. Yes.

50:54The sermon said that right here. He said, this is why the report cards work for organizations that aren't offended by the critique. Just look to improve, brother. Yes. Listen, it's simple. You know why that is? You know why that is, Joe? Why is that? John Lynch is a former player. Yes, he is. He knows that these report cards are real and have credibility. Mm-hmm. And as a responsible GM. He said, hey, let me get this corrected. Let me improve because that makes sense to do it. But common sense ain't common no more. You understand? Yeah. How do you feel about this, Joe?

51:38James Harrison:You like this? You love this? I love this. And that's why I love the report cards, Debo, because they're honest opinions and they were actually getting things fixed. Because it's like you're not trying to shoot the messenger. You know you're in an organization, and if stuff is bad, it's bad. If it's good, it's good. We don't want to sit there and just give out fake stuff. It's like, oh, no, food is good, like smooth. And especially people that played on different teams, you've been different places before. You've seen other organizations. You know how other people are moving. You're like, okay, you know, this is nice.

52:10James Harrison:This is smooth. And just smooth grades. I love the fact that when teams, when real things get done, the hot tubs, the cold tubs, we're not asking for, like, crazy things. We're asking for things that are really going to help us on the field with the production. You guys want us to be, we're your investment. So if you want to take care of the investment, you're investing into us. You know what I'm saying? Like taking care of our bodies, doing all of this stuff, make cryotherapies. It's nothing really like out of the ordinary. So I love when the report cards get addressed by the owners because it shows they're trying to take care of their investments.

52:46James Harrison:And we're not asking for crazy things. So when they're throwing in nice stuff with the tubs and all that, I just see, I love that they're paying attention and that they're listening to what the players are asking for. So I'm all for it. Yeah. Yeah, I'm 100 % for this. You can't go wrong with this. It seems like to me that the NFL is only worried about the optics of, you know, how it looks. You know what I'm saying? They don't want to look like they don't care. They want to look like they care about the well-being of the players and all that. But the NFL only care about the bottom line, and that's them making money.

53:28That was just like when the whole player safety initiative started, and the NFL got sued, I believe it was 2011. They got sued for a class action lawsuit for concussions. But the Rumblings started in 2007 when Congress investigated the NFL over concussions. By 2008, it was more research that actually linked football to CTE. And guess what happened in 2009? They started finding the shit out of us. They started changing rules in the middle of the season, in the middle of a game. Okay, why? Because it was going to be a problem about their money. Oh, for sure. And by 2000, what was it, 13 through 15, they ended up doing a bunch of settlements on it.

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