Deebo & Joe _ Part 1: Deshaun Watson addresses Browns fanbase + Patrick Mahomes' new deal

23:43James Harrison:Him not being able to come and do that in Cleveland, he's self-aware. He understands why people will be feeling some type of way, why he has to go out there and literally prove it on the football field. There's no talking. There's no words that he can say to the fans or to the people to show him how he wants to be out there and get it done. All they can do, action, speak louder than words. Stay out of the way. Work hard. Don't do anything on the offseason that will make you feel like football isn't your main thing. So all he's been doing is trying to stay out of the way, do the best that he can, work on his rehab, and just go in there, study and tape, doing everything that the coaches and the players can see.

24:20James Harrison:Look, Deshaun Watson is on this team. He's trying to be the best that he can be. There's nothing on the outside world that you can't control how people feel about you. They're going to feel how they feel no matter what. They're looking at you, oh, you made 230 men. F that dude. No matter what, no matter if you're trying to change your ways, you're working hard, you're being a great teammate, that's all you can control is what you can do. So I do love the way he's going about this because you can only control what you can control. People are going to feel their type of way about you regardless.

24:47James Harrison:All you can do is work and show the people that your teammates, your coaches, the staff, the people in the building, that none of this stuff matters. All you're trying to do is be the best quarterback you can be, so putting your best foot forward. So I really do like what he's saying right here with his mindset because you can't. If you start trying to control what other people are worried about, you're never going to win. Control what you can control and be the best version of yourself possibly, and then everything else will end up coming around. But you can just control your own job. Do what you can do.

25:17James Harrison:Be the best Deshaun Watson you can be moving forward. And I think that's what he's trying to do. So I love that. Oh, yeah, for sure. You got to control what you can control, basically. Give attention and energy to things that, you know, that aren't outside of your control. You give attention and energy to everything outside. It's just going to eat you up. So, you know, he's doing what he needs to do. He's staying focused. He's basically trying to make sure he stays healthy. That's going to be the hardest part, I think, for him. learn the offense and then you know from there all this can be kicked away and all the talking about not being this and not liking him you know how you do that joke?

25:58James Harrison:Win. Win. Win. Win. He go out there and win all the haters listen, that's it winning that actually leads to a championship man that'll silence everybody. It'll silence every person there. Hell, the whole Browns organization, that would just kill all the negative noise from the fans. Hell, reporters, they might not even have nothing to talk about then no more. They'd be done for how to report. You know what I'm saying? They don't even know how to do that no more. How do we report something positive? I don't know. We've been doing this for so long, we don't even know how to write nothing that's good.

26:34James Harrison:Come on.

26:38James Harrison:With this quarterback competition, did you see what Shadour was saying too, I think both of them are doing great jobs of understanding. Media wants them to be in competition. They want it to be like J.J. McCarthy and Kyler Murray. These two dudes, we understand. They're professionals. The best thing you can do is your job. And if you put your best foot forward, not worried about what the next man's doing because he's still, he's trying to do his best. So understanding the best man, Coach Todd Munkin, is going to put the best quarterback on the field. So you just going out there working, grinding, studying with yourself you know no matter looking at Deshaun isn't going to help out Shador Sanders and Deshaun Watson watching Shador isn't going to really get him to where he needs to go so these dudes at the end of the day are they know they're pushing each other because we're both getting reps as the starting quarterback but how good I do I can control that I can't control what you do I can control what I do and I'm just trying to be the best version of myself and I think that each one of them honestly feels if I do that I'm going to be the starting quarterback so there's nothing that the other person can really do to waver what I got going on.

27:42James Harrison:So I'm going to go out here, lock in on myself, go ball out because I really believe I can be the starting quarterback of this team. I think both of our quarterbacks feel that way and I'm loving the way that they're going about it with the media. They know it's a competition. They know what it is. This is blatantly obvious, both of y 'all. But when you're going out here like, I can go do what I can do to control my job, doing it the best of my abilities. That's the way that I'm going to be able to have Coach Todd Monk and pick me to be the starting quarterback. You know what I'm saying? I'm just, they're doing the right way.

28:11James Harrison:Just keep grinding, keep going. But the answering of these questions are like, the good thing is Deshaun hasn't talked to the media in probably two years. And he did a great job of just keeping, they wanted clickbait. They wanted something to talk about. Deshaun didn't get him nothing to talk about. And he just knows, he knows. He's been in the league long enough. He knows what he's done already and what he's got to prove. All I can do, Deshaun, is go ball. So that's why I think he's doing it the way that he is. And I appreciate it. For sure, for sure. Let's jump on over here, man, to who could probably go be the richest quarterback in NFL history, baby.

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34:35James Harrison:$4 million a year, a new NFL record. Joe, you surprised they gave Patrick Mahomes this much paper, especially after his ACL. Not even a bit. Not even one bit. I can see because when my man, Dallas Cowboys back in the day, Dak Prescott, snapped his ankle in half, and that was one of the most disgusting things I've ever seen. And he signed four years for$160 million. five months later. I said, the quarterback position, you can't make up what Patrick Mahomes has done. And when he signed that 10-year,$450 million, that was$45 million a year at the time where Dak Prescott's making$60 million a year.

35:19James Harrison:You've got a lot of other quarterbacks making$55,$54 million a year. He's not. Patrick Mahomes should set the market every time. He's won the Super Bowls. He has the cachet. So it's not, what have you done for me lately? you know what Patrick Mahomes is going to be able to do for you. So I think for them, obviously, he's healed up from this thing, and I think Patrick Mahomes is going to be a quarterback who's going to be in the league for a very long time. So when you get him under contract again, you thought that 45 for 10 for 500 was bad. Now he just read up for the 65. When these younger quarterbacks start, that's not going to be the highest.

35:54James Harrison:There's going to be quarterbacks start making 64. Oh, no, it's not at all. Patrick Mahomes' deal isn't going to look that crazy. average per year, 64 million, for the length of it, people start resetting the market every single year. So that 64 isn't going to look as crazy in three years from now. But Kansas City Chiefs, great job. Lock in your quarterback. You have the coach. He's hungry. I love the way Pat just works. From the ACL, his grind, he's going to try. He's trying to make game one. I don't want him to rush that, but you just see that he's like, he got that dog and he wants to play football.

36:29James Harrison:He loves football. And he's a doggie quarterback. I'm giving him $64 million a year yesterday. So they're smart. You got your franchise quarterback that wants to be there at least by example. Stays out of the way. Yes, get that man in his bag. Yeah, Jeremy Fowler, I guess he's saying that Mahomes is leaning into the possibility of returning week one of the 2026 season. He said, Fowler added that Mahomes has progressed to 707 work and is now eyeing the potential of 11-man work as minicamp wraps up. Joe, you think that's too soon? What is that? Nine months, ten months after? It's nine months on the dot.

37:12Yeah.

37:14James Harrison:And something else. It wasn't just his ACL. It was his LCL too now. Now, the deal itself, yeah, I'm all for that. I'm giving him the deal. No matter what. Two more years where there's another the 239 million dollars on it it's 26 to 33 you're looking at uh was a 504 million dollars almost 505 million dollars uh total if you make it all oh with incentives it's almost 750 dude yeah even if you don't make the incentives dude it's still 735 million bro like that's without hitting any incentives, dude. And he's going to see every dime of that because the last year of his contract is what? He's 39. Last year of his contract, he'll be 39 for a quarterback.

38:04James Harrison:That ain't that old. He'll be towards that end part, you know what I mean? And when you look at it, by that time, the Chiefs will be looking for his replacement at what, you say, 29 by 29 years, 29, 30, something like that. Give him a couple years under passing with Holmes, you know what I'm saying? That way, you know, he can see how it looks, where it's supposed to go. And hell, Joe, that don't even count the off-field money. That's all contractual money right there, Joe. That's all contractual money, man. But again, ACL, LCL. Quarterback, like you said, it's not a big thing. It's not a position that is, you know, it's a contact position.

38:41James Harrison:So it's not like he's going to be, you know, taking a whole bunch of hits. But the recovery of, you know, going from where he was at in December, where he tore it up and then having to do both the acl and lcl like to make that return in that time dude you got to have some therapy people some treatment people that understand and are up to date on you know all the new advances on you know how to get you back in that eight nine month time frame dude and i don't be honest dude you know it's not a whole bunch of people that got a whole bunch of knowledge like that that a lot of us are using especially you know this That's what I'm telling you, D-Bo.

39:20James Harrison:You signed for$504 million. We're finding the best people in the world to make sure that my new LCL and PCL is going to be perfect. We. Who is we? If I'm Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs. Okay. So now, do you have that knowledge? Do you have those people that surround you? Because you've got to realize, how many people do you go to and you're like, oh, man, they say this dude is the greatest, the best, the best. And you're like, I hear you. I hear you. I hear you. I got three people better than that. My bottom three is better than your top. I will hope. You know what I'm saying? I know.

39:56James Harrison:That's all I'm saying. For me, if it's me, I done gave you all this money, man. The first thing I'm doing, man, is I am making sure that, one, he's 100 % healthy. Even if I'm, like, as the head guy, owner, whatever it may be, whoever has that last say of whether he can go or not. like yes contract automatic why because you are going to be a chief for life dude you're a hall of fame player yes you're going to the hall of fame i don't want you in no other jersey but a jersey you done got me three super bowls you done got me five appearances yes and you got two mvps yes so that that's that's not that's that's not nothing but i need to sit here and make sure that as a organization dude as a as a training staff that yeah we want him out there but I want to make sure he's as close to 100%, especially comparatively to his other leg as he is to his repair leg.

40:57James Harrison:So you got to do certain type of muscle testing and comparisons and strength adjustment. Like it's stuff that a lot of these training staffs, you don't even see that equipment in the training rooms or the weight rooms to be able to do those assessments. because it's a special piece of equipment that is strictly for, okay, you just messed up your ACL or you just messed up your LCL and you're trying to come back. And that's all that piece of the equipment is for. So, you know, when you look at it, yeah, what they got? They got Justin Fields, right? Yeah, they got Justin Fields. So, yeah, I understand what they're saying.

41:32James Harrison:Like maybe an 85, an 80 % Patrick Mahomes is, yeah, better than 100 % Justin Fields. But at the same time, do you want to risk losing Patrick Mahomes again because when you start going and you adjusting, you know, to try and make sure that that leg is good, you know, you're not always pushing with all the same amount of force off that leg and ACL with an ACL, you're talking like real life. Like it's probably a hundred percent, 12, 12 to 12, 15 months. Like you looking at like a real, like I'm back and I'm not thinking about it. You're not, you know uh using any type of uh bracing and all that other stuff you know how you come back from a ankle you know you taping up most of the time you know and practicing all that and as you get through that high ankle sprain you know you get back to where you don't take in practice you just take for the games like you know so to to get at that point at month eight I don't that that's I don't even think that's feasible but to be able to come back and play you know what I'm saying Like, I would hope this.

42:39James Harrison:If I think Patrick Mahomes is doing every single, like you said, trying to look out and see who's the best people to get him back onto the field. I would hope and pray, too, with the Chiefs knowing this isn't a short-term thing. Not having Patrick Mahomes back for game one, we need him for the next 10 years. We just signed my man for$500 million. It is definitely amazing that we need to be able to, we don't want, if he can get back, like, that's the thing. Don't try to hinder and be like, no, no, no, you're not going to come back for a certain amount of time. But when we're doing this rehab, making sure everything is going according to plan.

43:13James Harrison:And like if your rehab is getting good, we're not trying to slow you down. I want you to work, work, try to get back right. But we're not putting you back out there in the game until it's 100%. We're not just worried about 2026 season. We're worried about we got you the next 10 years. We got you at least for the next seven. At least for the next seven. So for this season, if you miss one or two, I'm just loving the mental. Like, Patrick Mahomes, you want to get back. The plan is for us to try to get you back there. But if you're looking gimpy or if there's any type of hiccup in the game, I'm loving the plan to be.

43:44James Harrison:We're trying to get you out there because that means you're just focused on getting yourself healthy 100%. So when you're out there, you don't act like you feel it or you don't even recognize that it's hurting. But if I see you looking a little gimpy, oh, we could just delay it. We could delay it a little bit. But that's not – for Pat, I think his mental love is just trying to get back out there and work in his rehab the best that he can, for sure. But knowing, if you're looking, Gimpy, we still got time. It's still – this is not – the first game of the season isn't the end all. Yeah, I'm going to tell you right now, man, I ain't going to lie.

44:15James Harrison:And if it's me, man, I'm not even trying to put him out there until I done got a whole reading of both legs. And it's at least no more than a 5 % difference, bro. Like, I'm just like, that's a 64? He out there right now. And how much of that is guaranteed? You know what I'm saying? He was doing a little OTAs. He was doing a little. SOTAs, bro. Come on now, man. Ain't nobody even getting close to you in OTAs. You can look at the one time I was seeing where Verse went and they showed a pass where Shador had a nice pass. Didn't nobody block Verse. Verse was sitting right there. Verse could have just did the whole slap.

44:57James Harrison:He could have blew my man up. Yeah, like that. But like I said, you ain't getting that. You ain't getting that in OTAs. You know what I'm saying? You ain't got to worry about even moving in OTAs. You know what I'm saying? Like, just throw the ball. You know what I'm saying? Like, he's doing seven on seven. It's easier. It's way easier to do seven on seven. A lot of the seven on seven, they sitting there and gun anyway, you know? Yes, yes, yes. So, you know, going out there, man, listen, I don't know when they buy is, but I'm going to focus more towards being like, okay. Or towards the buy week.

45:30James Harrison:Yeah, if, you know, if everything is still going, you know, good and all that and we got a chance to compete, then, you know, I look at trying to get him back for the bye as long as he's 100%. It's a whole bunch of other things that go along with that whole process and making sure that, you know, they're still on the right path to 100%, you know, recovery and full use. There's no rush. That's what I'm saying, Depot. I mean, that's what you got feels for, right? That was the whole. I mean, that's what I was thinking the whole time when I heard Pat coming back from the beginning of the season. Get like half a season or something, I was thinking, you know.

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