Deebo & Joe - Part 1: Joe home SAFE from Mexico, Steelers NFLPA Report Card Grade + Ty Simpson to Pittsburgh?

13:05James Harrison:Debo, you, see, that's what I'm saying, man. I knew you weren't looking for Joe Burrow. You were lying to him. You were looking for me. You were still trying to distract me, bro. I would appreciate that. I felt it.

13:17Joe Haden:I'm like, and I'm sitting there, I'm like, I can't send it because if I send it and then it don't happen in 45 seconds, they got him, got him.

13:24James Harrison:Damn, I was in bubbles, Debo, because I was trying to figure out what I was going to say. And then I was talking to the airline people. So I'm like, I don't know what to tell them. I should have said, I'm safe. That's what I should have said, because I didn't know what to say. I'm like, niggory, say something. But Debo, look, honestly, real stuff, bro. Keeping it a bean. I do like traveling. But I'm going to tell you this. after that situation, feeling, the feeling of helplessness sometimes, when you like this, when you say, when you say, somebody could just block the road, and me no speak no, and me no speak no Spanish.

14:08James Harrison:I love, me no esplenon. Me no esplenon. Yo, I got uno, dos, tres, I got, I can count, I can count down, get vete uno, vete dos, you know, like, you know, I can get up there, I can do some numbers for you, but when I'm getting to talking, like, when you sitting there, and you don't know the language. They're like, no. They're like, no. I'm like, I just feel compromised. And then if the cartel mess around and pull up, they don't have the same laws. Zero. As the law. So I'm like, yeah, that joint really made me feel. But like another shot back again, Chileno Bay, resort, fire, amazing. I never felt, you know what I'm saying?

14:51James Harrison:Like that joint was so nice. but it's just like you never know outside that dough and i don't speak no espanol

14:58Joe Haden:yes sir i told you joe i wait i wait what what's the worst thing that could happen wherever i go and if i can't deal with the worst thing that could happen joe i can't go yeah i can't go i'm mr plan b joe you got you got to understand that like i'm already already like when i went to mexico city i told my people i said hey if they say they got me and they won't ransom they lying. I fought and they had to kill me where I was at. They just took my body.

15:24James Harrison:See, that's what I'm saying. I will pay for my release. That's what I'm saying. I'm just trying to get me out of here safely. Please. I mean no harm, people. I'm just trying to come here, chill, enjoy this water, enjoy this view, enjoy this vibe, enjoy these tacos and these vibes. I'm no one, no drama. You know what I'm saying? We no one.

15:50Joe Haden:No drama, Joe. Me, since you all know one. No drama. Man. Mm-mm. Joe, the NFL, PA, I don't know if they released it or who released it, but the report cards just came out. Uh-huh. And the Dolphins rank first. And, dude, the Steelers are worse this year on the survey. They got the locker room as a F minus. Oh. Yeah. It says players reported having only five bathroom stalls for the entire team. That is true. D-Bo, that's what I would look. You know you got to run upstairs. Come on, man. You get heavy, you got to go catch one before, you know what I'm saying? That's crazy. It said another one was the owner's rank last in the willingness to invest in the facilities.

16:40James Harrison:Yes.

16:40Joe Haden:The lowest ranked home field in the league by a wide margin, they said, due to high school and college youth leading to poor field conditions. That was another F minus. You got the strength coaches ranked last in the NFL. That was another F. And then the training staff was actually first, though. I don't know if that grade is.

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20:19Joe Haden:But what do you think of these grades?

20:23James Harrison:Which ones do you think are appropriate and which ones you think aren't of the? I would say the one thing that I see here that's just glowing is that the locker room, that's minus for sure. And when they state facts like five bathrooms, when we think about it like that's just the way it was, it's not okay. It could be 100 people in that joint at one time. You know what I'm saying? People got to go and you got to go to get practice. And then with the showers, you know what I'm saying? It's not a lot of them joints in there too. And in the locker room, when you walk in there, it's old. It's wood.

20:55James Harrison:It got your little name on the joint. But like when we look at it back in the day coming from, I was looking at like culture. This is what it is. You know what I'm saying? But at the end, when you do look at it, it's like, no, this is messed up. We need to have bathrooms available and like nice lockers. You know what I'm saying? Like there's no reason why it shouldn't be up to grade. And that old mentality of like, no, no, no. Do you get what you, this is what, this is, we have what, we have the requirements. It may not be as extravagant as you like it, but they have everything that you need. So, but the levels of the locker room, that's crazy.

21:30James Harrison:Five bathrooms, when I'm thinking about it, that's kind of crazy.

21:33Joe Haden:So I did do it. I never really counted it, to be honest, or paid attention to it, to be honest to you. Because I'm like, all right, I know I'm going to go in there, scan real quick, see if all the feet on there. Then I'm going to shoot straight upstairs to hope I get one of the two that's up there.

21:46James Harrison:That's crazy.

21:48Joe Haden:You know what I'm saying?

21:53Joe Haden:the field is what it is you know when you get late into that season it gets poor I don't think they switch it in and out don't you know switch over the field long enough to replace it and then sometimes they can't because of the time it takes for it to be able to uh cure and you know seal down onto it um the strength coach ranked last that's that's something right there dude that I think is it's more of a

22:18James Harrison:I don't out of any of the ones I don't really agree with that one yeah I think the strength coaches aren't I think that I like them pretty good they're more flexible they're just not going to give you exactly everybody has to do the same thing they're more flexible to what you're what you need you know what I'm saying so I wouldn't I would definitely say that the strength staff was better I would go to field was probably like it is I think because a lot of people use it. The college teams, high school teams, events are on it all the time. Quick turnover, and you got to get back out there. And that field is natural grass.

22:53James Harrison:So that's just going to get beat up if somebody goes and use it a day or like a little couple days before you use it.

22:59Joe Haden:Yeah, I think with the strength coaches, the ranking, that's kind of on an individual basis, to be honest with you, because if you want a real good strength coach, they need time, dude. And the biggest issue of them needing time is a great strength coach is going to make his program to fit each person. It's going to be catered to that person. That's what I was trying to say. Not to what they want to do. And a lot of these guys, I think, didn't want to do the kind of lifting that they were doing over there. You know, from what I was hearing, it was hard manual lifting. But the biggest thing that they have to understand is a strength coach is there to build strength.

23:42Joe Haden:And I think I know if you're a good strength coach, you build and you cater to the person's needs that their body tells you they need because you can't have an imbalance. And the biggest thing is when you get a 10 percent imbalance in between muscles. So say my hamstring and my quad, if my quad is stronger by more than 10 percent, now it ups the risk of injury. Now, if you get into that 15 and higher percent, it's not about when. I mean, it's not about if. If is when you're going to pull something. Yes. So people who pull their hamstrings a lot are quad dominant. They have a greater deficiency there that's causing the other muscle to strain in the effect of trying to do what it needs to do.

24:32Joe Haden:Now, if they're able to go and do a body, you know, maintenance or a body evaluation of each player and then make the program accordingly, then that's better. But when you have coaches that a lot of them, they build a program that's for each group. Now, that program for that group that week may be posterior based for your hamstrings and everything else. Well, this person is already hamstring dominant. They shouldn't be doing a straight three-week hamstring something. They need to be doing something for the quads. You don't know that unless you get those measurements. So what you do is you get those measurements.

25:10Joe Haden:You're like, all right, I'm going to get something, and this is what I'm going to have you focus more on so that I can close down that gap, that deficiency. Then we reevaluate the body later on, three weeks later, to see if we're closer within that 10 % range.

25:27James Harrison:Debo, that is exactly right. That makes it a really good strength coach. Because I'm saying the strength coach that you think is coming in there, everybody got to do the same thing. This is what we do. This is why we're doing it. No, no, no, no. Each individual players, we're professional athletes here. We're here for the right reason. Some people's hamstrings need a little bit of work. Some people need a little bit more upper body stuff. So when you're able to cater to the individual athlete, that's what I think makes a really good strength coach. And when I was there, G, he did a good job with me of evaluating what I needed, what he felt I needed to get worked on.

26:00James Harrison:I was good at that. And that's what we worked on. So I'm like, I don't know who was working on them, but I'm like, the evaluation is, if they're doing that, I think that's a good strength coach.

26:09Joe Haden:Yeah, for sure. NFL said they will review the 2026 NFL PA cards leak. They're going to review the leak because they don't want their dirty laundry out there.

26:23James Harrison:Yeah.

26:24Joe Haden:And NFL PA may have, what do you call it? Yeah. accidentally leaked it. I don't know, however you want to call it. If they get caught, they're going to be caught. And it's stupid to do it and make like it's a leak or whatever. But that's the NFLPA because they're trash, dude. They're trash, and they have been trash since we lost Gene Upshaw 2008. In 2007, Gene Upshaw told us, were you playing in 2007? Nope, 2010. 2010 you ain't played till 2010 so in 2007 gene upshaw came in dude and he told us he said from that point forward everybody save 30 of your money every year leading up to the lockout in 2011 he said it's not about if they lock us out he said they're going to lock us out this is four years prior dude okay you have to be able to last at least 18 months so that would give you 120 of what the money is that you made you have sitting there ready to go for a lockout right yes he gets diagnosed with cancer dude and three days later he passes dang then comes the worst nflp executive director we have ever had in the history demarcus fitch i mean uh yeah marcus fitch gerald smith yes trash a trap the only thing he did on his tenure was make rules that kept himself in power that's it he actually changed the rules after the 2011 collective bargaining agreement because he almost lost it so back then you had what you still do you got 32 player reps okay one player per team and those players are the guys that go to all the meetings they're supposed to go to all the meets get you all the information so back then those player reps would approve or disapprove to bring it to the players they approved to bring it to the players they bring it to the players the players would then vote on it okay yeah and the numbers would be sent in hey this is what they voted this was the numbers majority wins boom boom boom boom they changed that so now only the 32 uh player representatives get to actually make the vote they don't have to bring it to the players they don't have to bring it to the players so it's the 32 that approve or don't approve the cba and on top of that the election or re-election of the executive director so the players don't even have a vote no more because why it's easier to control 32 oh then it is what but almost 3 ,200 every time it comes to vote because you vote in the offseason.

29:19Joe Haden:1 ,600 players are there that won't even be there at the start of the season. They go to 50 % that they're looking for. Anyway, all they need is 51. Okay. And then of that 1 ,600, how many invested? Maybe five, 600 of them are actually invested into the program. you know like there there's no accountability or oversight of what the reps actually vote because there's no record of it and the only way the guys will know is to ask the representative what did you vote and he could lie yeah damn now like where we're at with the executive uh committee is like crucial because not now the executive committee is like 12 or 14 guys okay and these guys actually pick who you get to vote for so they send it out to a third party okay the third party is supposed to the third party is supposed to see who's qualified and they send that back to the committee, okay?

30:25Joe Haden:And then the committee can pick who they want to actually put out to the player representatives to vote for the new NFL PA executive director or the CBA if that's the timing of what it is. So if the NFL PA executive committee member don't put your name in a hat, you don't even get a chance to make it to get put to the third party and then even if you do make it past the third party and they bring it back and say all right these are the six guys that made it they then can pull you from that and put out who they want to present to the player reps they just fired a dude um Craig Jones dude they just fired this dude he worked there I guess almost 17 18 years something like that in january he was placed on administrative leave for sending emails that they said uh they deemed antagonists because he was asking jaylen maven the current uh what is he the president of the nflpa he was you know what he was basically asking him play that for him he was basically asking him this question listen let me see i don't think anybody is saying that this process needs to be transparent to the media but when you have people in your player but that's a reporter they did not know information about who is selected who the candidates my Jones I think I think did not make a recommendation is after the fact you guys are saying oh we didn't recommend Lloyd but why would you not want to make sure that they were more informed and listen they have all the information they need so they can vote for the best unit if possible?

32:15Joe Haden:I think we have ensured that they're informed. We've given a lot of feedback.

32:21James Harrison:We've had meetings with our board members. And like I said, I don't think that everyone's not going to be touched.

32:29Joe Haden:There's always going to be someone who may not have been as engaged or may have missed something.

32:35James Harrison:But like I said, I'm proud of where our process is going. We've had outside counsel give us recommendations on changes that should be made. And, you know, we've implemented those changes. We've sat in to ask our board members, you know, what do you want to see? Is there anything that you all feel like needs to be done to this process?

32:56Joe Haden:And we've sat there and we've heard them out. And, you know, we've continued forward with our process. And maybe there are, maybe I could be missing something. Maybe there are a lot of people who, you know, did not feel like they were in the know. But I know for a fact that we put in the work and ensured, you know, everyone has the access and the ability to know what's going on.

33:19James Harrison:And everyone, we've kind of made the rules to the game up front. And, you know, our player leadership knows that. And, you know, that's what we have to stand on. I can't answer for everyone, but the work that I put in and the work that the executive committee has done has been with integrity and to best service our members and to be open and to hear from them and make sure we're moving in accordance with the players I've asked for. I know that we do that every day and every week.

33:48Joe Haden:I don't really think it's our job to just prove that to everyone. They know it, we know it, and that's where we'll stand. All right. Joe, Joe, the first thing he said is, I think, I think, I think. Jalen, you don't think. He just told you. No, you haven't. He said so. They said so. You're in a meeting with the board members. You need to be in a meeting with the players because you don't care about the players. You need the board members so that you can get the vote so you don't lose your job. You're proud of the process. How are you proud of the process? It's the same process that you're going to use that got the last NFL PA executive director that you had.

34:36Joe Haden:He's gone under that process because y 'all obviously messed up. So. Come on. And on top of that, you want to say he he said. He made the rules to the game. He gave you the rules to the game up front. No, you didn't. You just said there's no transparency. He just said there's no, you can't find out. There's no transparency. Nobody knows who voted for what. And the worst was, it's not your job to prove that. It's 100 % your job to prove that to the players you represent. If you're building software of any kind, you're really going to want to check out Century. Century is the all-in-one application code monitoring and fixing toolkit.

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38:29Joe Haden:Dumbass! If you can't do it, get out of there, dude! That's why I'm running for the NFLPA Executive Director. You need somebody in there that's actually in there for the players.

38:39James Harrison:Okay? A thousand percent.

38:41Joe Haden:So, hey, listen. The NFLPA Executive Committee. I feel you. hey the people who actually make those decisions cam you're one my guy you said you was gonna make sure i was on the list all right another one delay is campbell he's the president he said hey i'm i i'm here my guy he said listen calm down man it ain't you know it ain't there yet we go get you in there no i'm not gonna calm down okay austin eckler also talk to him he's another vice president

39:08James Harrison:holler at your boy please and thank you because this debo i'm gonna lie you are honestly speaking facts because this is my thing they're keeping it like like the ownership they're keeping it like the way that the nfl runs their stuff if it's for the players and you really for the players

39:28Joe Haden:and you like no no no no the nfl is doing it how they should do it protecting the nfl that's what We're not protecting our players.

39:36James Harrison:We're acting like there's a little boys club at the top, though, of the NFLPA. That's not really going to be because you're not. That's what I'm saying. Those dudes are not trying to keep it as open because if you're not doing what you're supposed to do, sir, then get somebody in there that does. The players don't feel as informed. Well, I think that we're doing it in our process. Your process isn't good enough because the players don't know what the hell is going on. And you don't feel like they should because you know if they did, you wouldn't be in your position. So you're going to keep it just how it is so you can let it go how it goes.

40:15James Harrison:I want it to be open. I want Debo's name to be in there because end of the day, if there's bull stuff going on, you're trying to get it all out for the players. I'm just feeling like these dudes are getting so comfortable in their position and they're answering it so matter of fact and so like, what do you mean? You, you, you're talking, I brought it to the board. The board, we need to make sure that this is the NFL. Dude, they're saying the board members didn't even know.

40:41Joe Haden:The board members didn't even know, didn't even vote. Dude, at the, at the meeting this, this, this year at the Superbowl, it was executive committee members that weren't even there. How you gonna miss your own meeting for something you're running? What?

40:56James Harrison:They don't. I need.

41:00Joe Haden:How does that work? Do you even know who Jalen is? He's running. He's actually damn near running this thing right now. Nobody knows who he is. The players don't know who it is. Nobody knows who he is. You know who voted him in? The executive committee. Why? I don't know. Shit, neither do I. because active players don't get to vote anymore this this affects all players this also affects retired players this affects you right now you're in the you're in the retirement phase where you still are getting your health benefits but you only get that for five years then that's taken away wait till you find out what that insurance costs oh my god to keep the one that they have They'll say, hey, listen, we'll make it easy for you.

41:53Joe Haden:You can just keep the insurance you got and we'll automatically just deduct it. Because when you go to try and get paid for this stuff, dude, when I say you have to go through a process, if it wasn't for the fact that I didn't have a regular nine to five, if you have a regular nine to five job after you're done playing, you're not going to be able to get to your your NFL pension, to your HRA, your health reimbursement account. You're not going to be able to get to it. They're only open during business hours. In the process of going through it and trying to figure it out, you can't do it. I got lucky and I ended up getting hooked up with a guy after my fourth time calling.

42:31Joe Haden:And he was like, yo, I'm going to take you to the steps. And he would sit there on it with me to this day. He will sit there on the phone with me going through the process of calling my insurance company, calling the doctor, getting all this other information that I would have no idea how to get bro i was on the phone for an hour and 45 minutes one time to get reimbursed 200 oh no and that's the game bro that's their business bro make it as hard as possible for you to get it so a lot of guys don't even go for it dude because the process is so hard and when you say okay i don't go for this 200 i don't go for this 100 i don't do that and you get that over 30, 40 times over the course of a year that are duh, you done missed out on a few grand now.

43:16James Harrison:Yeah.

43:18Joe Haden:And that's one player they're doing that with. And think of how many players still got that money sitting there. It's ridiculous. They made the process so hard to get back that guys don't even know how to do it. And like I said, if I didn't get lucky and get in contact with the right person, because everybody else, well, you got to call your HOA. you gotta call this and that you gotta pull it from here i can shout out to where the hell do i

43:46James Harrison:go for that no for sure i get one thing i ain't gonna lie my agent i had you know duane starks uh my agent drew he called me yesterday and was just checking up on me making sure all of the stuff was good so that's that's why i can shout out to drew because he's where he works with drew rosehouse my old agent and they still hitting checking up uh by once a year for to the retired guy. So I got the call yesterday. So that was actually pretty dope.

44:11Joe Haden:Yeah. Do they know how to do the process though?

44:13James Harrison:Yeah.

44:13Joe Haden:Okay. You got a team that'll be there and help you with that process. A lot of cats don't know it.

44:19James Harrison:No, a thousand percent. Like me.

44:21Joe Haden:I didn't know it. Especially guys that's older than us. Dude, it's out of control. Listen. You don't know what you don't know. Taylor Maven, I do not know why he is even in there. Nobody knows of him. And here's the crazy thing. I went to one the year before when they got Lloyd. Same thing, press conference, dude. It was like somebody just doing word salad, man. Same thing here, but it was worse even then. Nobody even knows who he is.

44:58James Harrison:You know when you don't have, you know when you're not standing on nothing that you're really just trying to deflect. He's not saying that. He's trying to stand on holding his job. That's it. That's what I'm saying.

45:09Joe Haden:That is it. He's not doing nothing else, bro. Look here. James Harrison for NFLPA, executive director.

45:20James Harrison:And your hat got to be in there, and they got to at least get you to the— Do we know if you're getting sent to the third party? Nothing.

45:28Joe Haden:They were supposed to have a meeting in March at the meeting this year at the Super Bowl. They don't even have a timeline anymore of that date. They don't even have the date no more. It's supposed to be March. They don't even know exact date. Because when they ask about people trying to come, the whole NFLP is just bogus. They're asking about you. That's what I'm saying.

45:43James Harrison:When they're like, you got to be informed. It's trash.

45:45Joe Haden:Super trash.

45:46James Harrison:You talking about being informed and trying to make sure people are going to the meeting. You had this out at the Super Bowl. They didn't even show up to the own meeting. So how you... Thank you. That doesn't make any sense.

45:57Joe Haden:The 32 guys that have the vote, plus the 14 or 11 committee members, dude i i guarantee you it might have been seven or eight guys in there from that whole 40 something

46:12James Harrison:i know a lot of people got stuff on their plates but when we talking about this stuff if you do you got to kind of peacefully bow out and we got to get somebody that thank you one that can be who is the guy that end up getting that job every year most of the time when they first start off it's just one of the best players nope oh best players don't want it it's too much

46:33Joe Haden:work so you get a guy that's like you know what i'll do it and if they really care about it and they're the best player then yeah they'll they'll do it or they're just going as because i'm the big name on the team and i should be there representing that's not who should be there

46:50James Harrison:it doesn't matter it should be the person that's actually there for the players dude that can't wait that's trying to get his jump that can't wait to be like i'm i'm vested i want to see exactly what's going on in here and like that's really interested in the process dude this dude

47:05Joe Haden:was in there before he was even vested i believe but do you know what how are you on a nflpa and you're not even vested into the program you are now one of the members that are supposed to be going out here leading it and trying what

47:24Joe Haden:bylaws messed up on that too it gotta be like it gotta be they're not telling anybody to start saving up or nothing dude because it's going to be a lockout players listen save 30 all the way up until the lockout because it's going to be another lockout the nfl wants to go and get this done as fast as possible you're trying to get it done as fast as possible because you want a deal that's for them. They're not going to give us a good deal. They're not going to give the players a great deal. They're not going to do that. We had the opportunity and we let D Smith file it up. Period. Like we need report cards on the NFL PA, bro.

48:06James Harrison:Oh man. They would definitely not let them things get out.

48:10Joe Haden:We need report cards on the NFL PA. We got some Stiller news. Let's get over here and see what the Stiller's talking about, brother. So we got Mike Flores. Ooh, he said people around the league are skeptical of Stiller's love for Will Howard. They said the Stillers met with Alabama's Ty Simpson. What do you think of that statement? I mean, you think that's a correct statement? How do you view that, Joe?

48:49James Harrison:They got the right to be skeptical. I think Will Howard needs a chance. We didn't draft him for no reason. Thank you. Body, like, I don't care what everybody else says. We got him on our roster right now. We picked him. He's a stealer. I love the coach. I love the way that he was able to develop quarterbacks. So, man, I'm not in love with Ty Simpson and everybody else say that, too. Like quarterbacks, people fall in love and all of a sudden he's one of the best quarterbacks ever. Get out of here. I don't want to hear it. We got Will Howard. We seen what he could do in college in the collegiate level.

49:20James Harrison:He's on our squad. Let's use everything that we got to make everything around him better. Let's make it like Sam Darnold-ish where he doesn't have to go out there and be Patrick Mahomes. Not mess it up. Do good. Hit the players when they need to and we run the ball well. Have a solid defense and Will's going to look better than I think advertised. People always want to jump around and do all of the quarterback stuff and say that shit. But for me, I'm staying with Will. I'm not going to abandon ship. I'm going to keep it right there. I actually do. I want to give him a shot. If it falls, it falls.

49:55James Harrison:We're going to be able to see what happens next year and be able to now. We really got to go get a quarterback. We know that's a position of need. We knew Aaron Rodgers isn't going to be the fix. We know if we're going to have to find out if Will Howard is going to be the fix. Then if he's not, we're in the same boat. but we don't know until we don't know. So I'm like, we got Mason backing up. Rudolph, I mean, Mason Rudolph backing him up. We still got Will Howard. You like Mason Rudolph as a backup? I mean, we can do something else. I mean, you know what you're going to get. You know what I'm saying?

50:25James Harrison:I'm not mad at you. Okay, that don't mean that I want that. I mean, for sure, for sure. I'm just saying, for right now, I'm just throwing out Will. I just said Mason because Mason's a good friend of mine. I played with him and I know what I was going to get solid. You just, that's, I think that's why they probably put him in before they even gave Will a chance. Cause you just, cause sister, you knew what you were going to get. But now new coaching staff, that was with Coach T. So now Will Howard, new coach, new vibe, give him a shot. Give him some ops. Let him see what's up.

50:57Joe Haden:Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm all with you. I know a lot of people are, are, are saying, you know, the GM Omar Khan, he, you know, he has to do, he hasn't done nothing. Well, I can say with 100 % certainty that he has had little control of what has came out of the top draft picks. So this year for me will definitely be a point where I believe the Steelers are going to go back to doing what they did before and not make the mistake of allowing a single individual to ultimately have the say of being able to pick a dude higher than the majority has ruled him. So I'm looking forward to seeing how he drafts this year.

51:38Joe Haden:Okay. And from this year on is where I'm going to, I'm going to judge, you know, Omar Khan. That's, that's just where I sit. Now the will, I want, I want, I want Will to get a chance. The reason I want Will to get a chance is even looking at Ty, Ty Simpson's numbers. And it's not, I mean, Will's, Will's numbers were, were actually better. I don't think we need to grab him if he's there. They don't think he'll be there at, what is it, 21, 22, something like that, 20, whatever it may be. If Ty Simpson is there, do you think we should get him?

52:18James Harrison:If the Steelers think that he's a franchise quarterback. I ask you. Me? No. Okay, that's where I'm at. I don't. That's where I'm at. No. That's where I'm at. I think we can get somebody that's nice for sure that's going to start on our squad. and like we got we got tj wide at 32 like there's there's good players there that we could get receivers it's a stack receiver squad you want to go get actually i don't think that we want to go here but it's a cornerback fire at that position where you could lock it up with a joey porter jr the best tackle the best you know i'm saying something something of the best of the best that you like i don't think that we got to go trying to go reach and like oh no the quarterback no I mean, he's not the one.

53:01James Harrison:If you think he's the guy, I don't. But if the team does, if they believe in him, whatever. But I'm like, no. Right now, we got too many holes, too many gaps. Quarterback is one of the main positions. But before the season started, I wasn't looking at Ty Simpson like, oh, if the Steelers got him, that'd be the one. No, I wasn't thinking basically any of these quarterbacks for real were really making me feel like we need to go up and get them.

53:23Joe Haden:Yeah. I ain't going to even lie, dude. I had to go back and look at Will Howard's stuff, dude. His senior year, he was 73 % completion. Man had over 4 ,000 yards. He was almost 10 yard to catch, bro. Like averaged almost 10 to catch. He had 35 touchdowns, 10 interceptions. And we ain't get at a shot or a chance to even show what it could do. I don't know. That don't make sense to me. I don't care where you drafted him. You drafted him for a reason. At least put him out there and see what he could do.

53:54James Harrison:I know he was at Ohio State with them weapons,

53:56Joe Haden:but get him some even even even before that when he was at um what was that um it wasn't kansas i don't know where he went before i think it was but he improved there each year well for the last two years of his career he he and he improved there without the weapons i mean the numbers weren't as great because okay but i'm rocking the wheel once he got those weapons it did it did a whole lot better. Yeah. Another thing, he a big body, bro. Yes. He's not no little dude. Yeah, 6 '2", 208 on the books. That don't, you know, with Simpson, that don't feel good to me, especially, you know, with some of the contact he may have to come into depending on how the line is doing that day.

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