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Podcast Episode Summary: Nightcap - Deebo & Joe - Part 1
Podcast Overview Title: Nightcap Description: Nightcap features Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson discussing the latest headlines in sports, including NFL, NBA, and college football. The podcast provides unfiltered opinions and instant reactions to recent games.
Episode Details Episode Title: Deebo & Joe - Part 1: Joe STUCK in Mexico?! Steelers Rebuilding Secondary, Myles Garrett Chasing History Episode Description: NFL legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden react to the Pittsburgh Steelers' plans to revamp their secondary, Myles Garrett's pursuit of the all-time NFL sack record, Joe's experience being stuck in Mexico, and much more.
Key Highlights & Discussions
- Joe Stuck in Mexico (00:00)
- Joe Haden shares his experience of being in Mexico amidst escalating violence related to cartel activities.
- He expresses genuine concern for his safety and mentions efforts to return to the U.S.
- Deebo discusses the unsettling reality of the situation, emphasizing safety as a priority.
- USA Hockey Triumph (09:30)
- Discussion on the recent victories of USA hockey teams against Canada in the Winter Olympics.
- Deebo expresses excitement about both men's and women's teams winning in overtime.
- Reflects on a personal experience with hockey and how it can engage fans.
- Injury Report: Poker Player Tears ACL (19:39)
- Light-hearted anecdotes about an incident where a poker player tore his ACL while celebrating a win.
- Deebo humorously addresses the absurdity of the situation, emphasizing the importance of staying active.
- Steelers Secondary Revamp (23:20)
- Discussion on Joey Porter Jr.'s potential extension with the Pittsburgh Steelers.
- Deebo argues the need for the Steelers to secure key players to maintain a strong defensive reputation.
- Highlights the significance of keeping players who contribute positively to the team's performance.
- Myles Garrett Chasing History (37:54)
- Conversation about Myles Garrett's pursuit of the all-time sack record and his impressive performance.
- Deebo gives credit to Garrett while navigating his own Steelers allegiances, humorously expressing his reluctance to support a Browns player.
Additional Themes and Insights
- Safety Concerns: Joe's situation in Mexico raises discussions about safety and personal circumstances in international travel, especially in volatile regions.
- Hockey as a Unifying Event: The success of USA hockey becomes a source of pride and a reason for celebration, highlighting sports' role in bringing people together.
- Injury Humor: The light-hearted take on injuries in sports serves to lighten the mood while also sharing cautionary tales about athleticism.
- Team Dynamics: Emphasis on team cohesion and the challenges of maintaining a strong defense within the Steelers organization.
Conclusion This episode of Nightcap features a mix of humor, serious discussions about safety and sports, and insights into the dynamics of professional sports teams. Deebo and Joe provide a platform for candid conversations that resonate with both sports enthusiasts and casual listeners alike.
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOJoe's Spooky Situation in Mexico
3:29 to 5:14
Joe discusses the unsettling situation he finds himself in while in Mexico.
“We done had to move Joe from a location over there in Cabo, but how you doing today, Joe?”
Escalating Violence in Mexico
5:14 to 8:10
An overview of the recent violence involving cartels in Mexico.
“You've got cartel members who literally look like the military.”
Transition to USA Hockey
8:10 to 9:48
Debo shifts the conversation to discuss the USA hockey team's recent victories.
“He obviously needs to get out of there as soon as he can.”
Debo's Hockey Experience
9:48 to 14:01
Debo shares his humorous experiences and observations about hockey.
“But what we're going to jump into is a little bit of USA hockey.”
Olympics and Hockey Highlights
14:01 to 15:28
Discussion on recent Olympic performances and notable hockey moments.
“And the save that he made, we got a picture of that save.”
Celebrating Family and Future Athletes
19:54 to 20:53
Discussion about the host's family involvement in hockey and future prospects.
“Brokered services by Open to the Public Investing, Inc., member FINRA, and SIPC.”
Gracie's Hockey Journey
20:53 to 22:43
Highlighting a young athlete's potential and achievements in hockey.
“So that's, I mean, that's just what we're going to have to do.”
Unusual Sports Injuries and Cautionary Tales
22:43 to 28:00
A humorous take on bizarre sports injuries and the importance of staying active.
“Tell me what number y 'all think she wore.”
Staying Active and the Steelers' Defense
28:00 to 29:49
Discussion on the importance of staying active and the need for the Steelers to secure their defensive players.
“oh my goodness bro oh my goodness it's getting tricky out here man stop sitting down being stagnant not going out there being active putting your body through something.”
Joey Porter Jr.'s Performance and Future
29:50 to 31:39
Analysis of Joey Porter Jr.'s performance and the need for the Steelers to pay him accordingly.
“we got to be able to keep guys that are putting in that work.”
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Myles Garrett's Chase for History
31:40 to 35:10
Exploration of Myles Garrett's impressive stats and his pursuit of Bruce Smith's all-time sack record.
“But I'm going to tell you right now, the truth is, they're going to have to get him.”
Change in Browns' Defense and Steelers' Strategy
39:43 to 42:03
Discussion on the potential changes in the Browns' defense and how it affects the Steelers' strategy.
“I could see him doing it in any other, you know, any other jersey, like anything.”
Camaraderie in Defense: The Importance of Team Understanding
42:03 to 43:14
Learn how deep understanding and camaraderie among team members enhance defensive performance.
“I want y 'all to have to learn a whole new scheme.”
The New Defensive Coordinator's Challenge
43:14 to 46:09
Explore the challenges and expectations for a new defensive coordinator in Cleveland.
“And when it comes down to it, 9-2, 9-2, 9-2, 9-2, 9-2.”
Injury Concerns: The Case of Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah
46:09 to 52:59
Discuss the implications of injury reports on players and their careers, focusing on JOK.
“I guess that's okay I guess that's okay I don't know I don't know I know me me personally me being who I am and being a man a man you hear that a man a man Are you a man?”
Transcript
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3:16Joe Haden:Welcome back to this episode of D-Boy and Joe. I'm your host, James Debo Harrison, and I'm here with my co-host, Joe Hayden. Please make sure you like, subscribe, and download your podcast where you get it. Hey, look here, man. We done had to move Joe from a location over there in Cabo, but how you doing today, Joe? I told you don't go down there to Mexico, boy. I should have listened to you. I should have listened to you, Debo. Honestly, I'm a little spooked, brother. I can't even lie to you. You know what I'm saying? It's getting real tricky on this side of the world. I need to get back feet planted on U.S.
3:58Joe Haden:territory. I'm not even trying to be funny, bro. I'm a little, you know what I'm saying? I'm a little spooked because when you start talking cartel, they going against police. They running up in airports and stuff. So definitely a little spooked. I'm trying to book my stuff. Like I got a flight I can get in now. So I really tried to just get on the show, show you my face, let you know I am good. But I really do need to slot. What you mean? Like right now? Like, like, yeah, I just got on here right now so I could show you, see your face. But I got to go. Like, I got I got a flight that I can catch in the next 20.
4:37Joe Haden:So I need to leave here now if I can get there. Go. OK. I got it. Thank you. Thank you. I got it. Hey, look here. For anybody that don't know, Joe is in Mexico. Oh, shit, I just got nervous. They got some stuff going on down there right now. Cartel then took over. They ended up, I guess, unaliving one of the leaders of a cartel down there, El Hancho. my boy in trouble um uh whoo so we go get joe out of there so i'm gonna end up doing the show solo it's still debo and joe and this is what we go do i'm gonna end up talking to the peoples so for anybody that don't know what's really going down there i believe we have a video um we got some we got a little something that we can show about what's going down on the
5:42James Harrison:mexico right as i'm sure you've already heard um there was a top uh drug lord cartel member el mencho who has been killed i believe there was a 15 million dollar bounty on this man's head and he is now and that has caused this whole situation to pop off um the the place looks like an absolute war zone right now folks um cartel has been setting up blockades in the streets um stopping cars, a whole bus was set on fire. You've got cartel members who literally look like the military. These guys are serious. These guys mean business.
6:27James Harrison:Costco was set on fire. A hospital was under attack. People running for their lives. There was the one-on-a-pala airport that was under attack. People literally running all over the place, screaming and crying. The Porta Vallarta airport as well has had a big scare. A lot of people were evacuated on the tarmac, you know, had to run out on the runway to get away from the intense situation. And it seems like it's not about to slow down anytime soon. As I understand it, they the cartel have announced that they are going to be entering private homes and potentially hotel resorts at 5 p.m. our time if their demands are not met so this thing could be just just the beginning of what we're seeing here
7:33Joe Haden:Yeah, that's just some of what's going on down there. Obviously, safety is number one. We were hoping to be able to do the show. I think at that time, we didn't feel like, or obviously he didn't feel like, we didn't feel like it was that serious, but we did moving from the location he was in in Cabo. and we thought we would be okay. But I guess as of now, they're starting to move further and further down. And with Joe being Joe Hayden and us going on air, we don't want to disclose his location. He obviously needs to get out of there as soon as he can. The guy said they're starting to go further and further down.
8:23Joe Haden:So in different areas, Joe, I mean, to get what they want, I mean, he would be a, honestly, he would be a high asset target in a negotiation thing. You know, it's even like when we went to Mexico for the Steelers thing, we actually had a full, like full service detail security. We had a SUV in front of us, SUV behind us, you know, five, six guys in each, you know, in each vehicle, you know, ARs full assault, you know, tactical gear. and that was just for, you know, a Stillers fan fest thing that was in Mexico City. Joe's there by himself, you know, a couple friends. And so obviously he doesn't have that, you know, that term of that level of, sorry, that level of security.
9:17Joe Haden:So he's doing what's best for him and I'm happy for it. And I'm going to pray for my brother and I'm going to be there. And, you know, I'm going to look forward to seeing him get his feet back on the ground here in the States.
9:35Yeah.
9:39Joe Haden:OK, we'll be back at this. I'm tripping. I'm tripping. Will Joe be back? But I'm going to finish the show. I got to get myself together. My boy done made me nervous. Look here. But what we're going to jump into is a little bit of USA hockey. And the United States whooped the brakes off of Canada. The women and the men, both in overtime, 2-1, United States whooped on. Hey, look here. I want to tell you something. So I'm not really a hockey dude, right? so I don't know how this works but last year I was watching a hockey game and the hockey game I was watching was U.S. and Canada I don't know how they played again considering this is the Olympics I don't know how that worked somebody in the chat tell me how that worked how did that work that they played last year okay so last year I was at my uh I was at my cigar bar right and I'm sitting there and uh i come in and they're like yo you know it's about to be this this hockey match going on like you know um and you know it's about to go down whatever i'm like yeah you know whatever okay yeah i'll watch it blah blah blah and i took my kids before and i'm trying to get them into i was trying to get them into hockey so i took them to a pins game where they're supposed to be fighting you know what i'm saying and no fight happened so obviously the kids they i hate to say but my kids, they like to fight.
11:15Joe Haden:They fight for sport. You know what I'm saying? My oldest, he liked to do all the MMA stuff and the training for that. My youngest, he gets practiced on by my oldest, so he got to defend himself some way, shape, or form. You know what I'm saying? So he got to teach him something to be able to defend him if he want to get any type of good work in. You know what I'm saying? It's only a two-year difference, but my oldest son, he used to be a little above victim weight, but my youngest, he victim weight for sure. He victim weight for sure. I ain't going to lie to you about that. He tall, but he victim weight.
11:48Joe Haden:Okay? He a little taller than my oldest, but he victim weight. So I'm sitting there, right, and I'm watching it, right? And immediately, soon as the puck dropped, them boys drop hands. I'm talking about drop hands. We got a clip of drop hands right now. This ain't even one second. They done dropped hands. They go to fist to cuff him. He done put hands on him now. They get through. They put these boys in the penalty box. OK. Immediately after that, they go and do another face off. They drop the puck again. What I end up finding out is the other one that drops hands again. They brothers. OK. The two brothers done said, hey, they said beforehand, yo, we about to go ahead, put hands on these boys.
12:36Joe Haden:OK, they go ahead and send the other brother into the box with his brother. Now, this I don't know, it's like three, four seconds gone. Immediately after that, they skate for about four or five seconds. And they right there, they get down to the shot on the goal. And they drop hands again. And I ain't going to lie. The dude that dropped hands this time, he was a little dude. He fighting the biggest motherfucker on Canada. And he throwing hands with him, okay? He ain't tripping. He ain't doing nothing. I ain't going to lie. That's the first time in my life I done ever watched a whole hockey match.
13:15Joe Haden:We lost. We lost. But listen, I was into this like no other. Like no other, okay? And it was lit. It was lit, okay? So now we go and we're in the Olympics, baby, okay? And this is the first time that, hey, the men and the women have ever won. At the same time, men and women, two-one, exactly the same. Okay? Exactly the same. And the men, them boys ain't won since 1980 Olympics, what they call that, the miracle on ice. Okay? And when they won, listen, it was Captain America up out there. Show the video how them boys came up off that ice right there. Where it at? where they you can't play oh listen we can't even play the video we can't even play the video but look here take that off there but we'll go get to that we're gonna get to the stuffed animals okay we're gonna get to the stuffed animals but what they don't know is everybody i guess got a stuffed animal so anyway the women kind of been holding it down in the olympics anyway so i think they won in was it 2018 and they won in uh 1998 okay so they they have been holding it down for us okay but I guess my guy Jack Hughes he got his tooth knocked out and he later was the one to score the winning goal okay okay okay yes sir yes sir look here man that boy Connor uh What is that?
14:55Joe Haden:Hella buck? He played a hell of a game. Hell of a game. 41 or 42? And the save that he made, we got a picture of that save. We got a picture of that save he got. Show that save. That boy was saving. Listen, the only person saved was better than this with Jesus himself. I'm trying to tell you. I'm trying to tell you. Like, that puck right on his stick. Right on his stick. I'm trying to tell you. It felt good.
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20:08Joe Haden:It felt real good. Okay. This man only missed one. 41 or 42. Okay. 41 or 42. Now, they're supposed to fly back to New York, but it's a blizzard over there in New York. So you know where they got them going. Chad, you know where they got him going? They got him going to Miami. Hey, it's going to be lit. I might be shooting from Miami tomorrow because I'm going to have to try and get down there. I might have to make sure my guy Joe get home okay. I might just have him meet me in Miami because we're going to celebrate. We're going to celebrate because I don't know he's going to be able to get through that East Coast area.
20:52Joe Haden:We're going to have to get down to Miami and celebrate. So that's, I mean, that's just what we're going to have to do. We got cartel doing this. We got a blizzard running over here. Like, we got everything going, okay? This is what we're going to end up having happen. So I'm not, like I said, I'm not really a hockey, hockey dude. But I know some people that play hockey, man. And y 'all might know Brett Kiesel. Brett Kiesel, now listen, he got three children over there that do a little bit of hockey. You got Jacob. You got Gracie. You got Will. I think Jacob's 17, 18. I think Gracie's about 15, 16.
21:37Joe Haden:And I think Will is maybe 11, 12, 13, something like that. Okay. That's my nieces and nephews. Okay. That's the Kiesels. Okay. Now, I'm not putting no pressure on nobody, but I believe the next time this occurs, either Jacob and Gracie, Will and Gracie, or Jacob, Will, and Gracie, all of them, will be the next time that this happens will be them playing in the Olympics. Yes, I'm going hard because they my nieces and nephews. Do I know anything about hockey? No, I don't. And I don't give a damn. But I'm going to tell you this. My girl Gracie, she bought them hands. She bought them hands. Don't let the pretty face fool you.
22:22Joe Haden:She about that life. She do more. You know what I'm saying? I think she might be more about them hands than the two boys. I'm just telling you. I'm just telling you. That's what it is. Gracie, hey, I see you. I see you. You know what number she wore last year, right? Y 'all know what number she wore. Tell me what number y 'all think she wore. Let me see it. What number y 'all think she wore? What number y 'all think she wore? Come on now, tell me something. Brett 99 now. What number you think she woke?
23:0292.
23:03Joe Haden:92. 92. Hey, 6-7 gone. It's 92. 92. That's what we do. 92.
23:19Joe Haden:Yeah, baby. Now, we got all this going on right here now. Hey, 9-2. Exactly. That chat, y 'all know what it was? 9-2. 9-2. Yeah, we couldn't play it. You right. You got that copyright, all that other stuff. Yeah, I understand it. You know what I'm saying? Down one, down one, down one, down one, down one to give me a chance. You know what I'm saying? I hear you chat. I hear you. But look here. Look here. They gave Canada stuffed animals. Okay? Now, the stuffed animals was actually given to everybody. But did you see the reactions on the faces of the Canadian woman and the Canadian man when they gave them the stuffed animals after you just got bopped?
24:18Joe Haden:Eh? After you just got bopped, eh? Yeah? Eh?
24:26Joe Haden:Oh, my goodness. Eh, sometimes it just feels good. It feels real good being American.
24:39Joe Haden:Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Now, look here. Man got his tooth knocked out. Got him a gold medal. Lost the tooth for a gold. I ain't tripping on that. And then you got guys like this. Poker. How in the fiddle faddle flippity do do you tear your ACL son playing poker? Please show me how the man tore his ACL playing poker. Can anybody show me how the man tore his ACL playing poker? he actually goes to celebrate on a hand that he really didn't have a good percentage of winning but the flop and then the what is it the river and all that else everything fell in this it fell on his lap. He went to celebrating.
25:32Joe Haden:Man tore his ACL. Now, if you look at the percentages of somebody tearing the ACL playing poker, it got to be zero until he went and made it a percentage point. So now, if you look at injuries that or how an ACL injury can occur, they done had to put poker on there because this man tore his ACL playing poker. That is absolutely the worst. Like you're going to be known for that for the rest of your life. You're the dude that tore your ACL playing poker. You can't even celebrate without hurting yourself. You, sir, are in the right sport. You are in the right sport. You don't need to do golf. You don't need to do anything where you actually have to move or walk.
26:35Joe Haden:You should have sat your goofy ass in that chair and just pumped your fist. Okay? That's it. That's it. And even then, pumping your fist too hard, you might have popped your bicep. Who knows? Just sit there, celebrate. Yeah, yeah, yeah, just do like, because you have zero, zero athletic ability in your body. Like your coordination is off to tear your ACL jumping around. Just jump, just like, it's nothing, I don't even know how that is possible. Do y 'all know how that is possible to even tear your ACL? Like in it. Like, did he backpedal over there and then cut and turn? Did he have on some cleats?
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27:24Joe Haden:Was his shoes too grippy? How did it go? Y 'all know? Like, was he? You tell me. Maybe. I know. Maybe they had some cheap turf down there. That got to be what it is. That's the only way. that's the only way you said your buddy high five the dude during a baseball game and dislocated his elbow how you do that I just seen it chat how he do that oh my goodness bro oh my goodness it's getting tricky out here man stop sitting down being stagnant not going out there being active putting your body through something. He's sitting on there playing poker against the computer on expert level.
28:25Joe Haden:Listen, I'm trying to tell you, man, everybody needs to move. Everybody needs to keep their body in shape. Otherwise, you're going to be the dude playing poker that tear your ACL. Okay? But what we need to do, man, is check out what's going on with the Steelers now. nephew speaking of my nephews listen still is y 'all better get next you paid man because uh they saying that uh if you do it now you might got a chance of getting him at a reasonable price because you let that man play this out and he get the next year. I don't know if it's still going to be 32 a year. Might be something worse than that.
29:18Joe Haden:You know what I'm saying? So y 'all make sure y 'all get nephew, Joey, Quota, Jr. Get nephew paid. We got to. If we want to continue to excel and be known as the stillest defenses are historically known and get back to real stiller football. Okay? Because we really haven't been looking like the stillest of past with our defense. It has been lacking. we got to be able to keep guys that are putting in that work. And if you let nephew, you let nephew get into this season and you don't get him signed, he go out there and do what he been doing. Don't forget, he been feeling disrespected anyway. Y 'all had him down in the second round.
30:25Why?
30:28Joe Haden:He got 31 He got 31 teams Hell Still isn't Add 32 I mean it's kinda You know He's thankful That he's there But hey At the same time He got that chip Got that chip sitting on the shoulder
30:48Joe Haden:They could've came and got me But they didn't He's sitting there day two. He been wearing that shit. Y 'all want to say he this, he that? Nah, nah, listen, man. He got to be physical. He going to let him know he going to be physical. Who ain't had a touchdown throwing him? Y 'all tell me. Y 'all know. Nephew ain't had a touchdown throwing him. Nephew ain't had a touchdown throwing him. Joey Porter Jr. Zero touchdowns allowed him. Zero. Y 'all know how many zero is? I can't even put up fingers. I can't even put up zero. I can't even put up fingers to show you. Like, it look like I'm putting up fish.
31:37Joe Haden:That's how many. That's how many. Listen here, man. I tried to tell y 'all, man. I tell you what God love, baby. It ain't nothing but the truth. God love the truth. That's what it is, baby. It's the truth. Let's get it done. But I'm going to tell you right now, the truth is, they're going to have to get him. They got to get him after you a bag. They got to get him a bag. Okay? It ain't going to be no backpack either. It's going to be a duffel. It's going to be a duffel. It's got to come. It ain't, you know, he ain't trying to kill him. You know what I'm saying? He ain't trying to kill him. But hey, he might make him wish they was dead.
32:23Joe Haden:Okay? Got to get where he were. He worth it now. He worth every bit of it. Okay? Y 'all better pay him before somebody else get paid and set the precedent.
32:39Hmm?
32:41Joe Haden:Look here, man. Hey, listen, bro. I'm just trying to tell you, man. And then, you know, that's just what it is, brother. My guy, Joe, you know, he he a Browns guy. You know, so we're going to, I got to hold it up for Joe right now. We're going to talk some Browns, okay? Stick with me. Stick with me. Now, listen, I'm going to be 100, though. Miles Garrett, Miles Garrett doing his thing. I mean, it kind of hurts my heart a little bit to talk positive about the Browns, okay? But my man, I got to give it. I got to give it up. I got to hold it down for my man, Joe. I got to give credit with credit dude Miles Garrett they got him number one PFF and it's a reason that man is number one he is currently he said hey he is chasing down Bruce Smith all time separate now look here five years he said he getting five years I believe he only what like 75 away what is that 13 a year something 15 a year something like that 15 a year.
33:57Joe Haden:Man just got 23.
34:01Joe Haden:Joe, since you're not here, I would have went against you just because it was a Browns player. But since you're gone, I'm going to hold it down for you. Myles go get that. Myles go get that, baby. Look here. He's going to go on out there. Now, if NFL teams do not, I can't help it. I can't help it. And I'm trying to try and I'm going to tell him how they got to do it so he don't get it. I just know I just can't. I can't. I'm trying to hold it down for you, Joe, but I really I can't because of my this right here. Make me so my man, this internal still in me just make me want to fight against it.
34:38Joe Haden:I just can't help it, Joe. I just can't. I'm so sorry. Lord, forgive me, please. I told I said I can't. Listen, double and triple team him. Make sure no matter what happens, y 'all got at least three on him in all passing situations. Now, if you're running the ball, let him go. Let him go. We don't. We don't care. We don't care. Okay? We cannot be the ones, meaning the Steelers or the NFL teams in general. We can't be the ones to give the all-time sack record to a Browns player. It's just a still in me. It can't happen. Hey, can't do it. Won't do it. Refuse to do it. Hey, listen, I don't know.
35:37Maybe, hey, maybe they could trade him.
35:41Joe Haden:Maybe they could trade him. And then I could be more positive of him possibly, you know, or at least open to it of the idea of, yeah, yeah, see, I just saw him in a different uniform. I'm like, yeah, I'm more open to it now. You know what I'm saying?
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39:42Joe Haden:Lenovo, Lenovo. Not nowhere in the AFC norm. I'm good. I'm good. I could see him doing it in any other, you know, any other jersey, like anything. It could be San Francisco. You know, San Francisco could be Minnesota, you know, like somewhere over there. Like to where the likelihood of seeing him is not until, you know, you get to the Super Bowl. and then we're going to put three on them and make sure like, hey, it's not going to be you. Let's go affect and destroy our game plan. I just, that's my feeling of it over there. I just, it's the Browns. And when you're talking about the Browns, there's certain things that you won't allow, you can't allow as a Steelers fan.
40:49You know, that when you wear this and when you feel it, you know, yeah.
41:00Joe Haden:He just, you just can't allow it, you know.
41:10Joe Haden:But the rookie over there, that's the rookie linebacker. What's his name? Swishinger? Swishinger? Swishinger? he said he didn't he doesn't or doesn't expect you know the deed of change post shorts i personally don't see why it would change i'm assuming that um incoming staff would have enough intuition or common sense to be like yo this worked let's not change this because we got a new D coordinator. I don't know why I'm telling this. I don't know why I'm telling y 'all this. I don't know why I'm telling y 'all this. I want y 'all to change. The person that this in me wants y 'all to change. I want y 'all to have to go through a whole new learning process.
42:06Joe Haden:I want y 'all to have to learn a whole new scheme. I hope the D coordinator come there and change everything. I want y 'all to have to start all the way over. It's a big difference when you got that camaraderie and then you got an understanding. You know the ins and out of the defense. And now you've been in that defense for multiple years. And now you can go and be like, okay, I know what I'm doing. Let me see what he doing. Let me see what the guy next to me doing. And that was one of the things with Dick LeBow's defense. It was like, yo, we were together for years and years. So now it was no longer what you're doing.
42:46Joe Haden:I can't know what I do better. Once I know what I do 100%, I can't know it no better. So now I'm trying to learn what is my corner doing? What is my end doing? What is my nose doing? What is my inside linebacker doing? What is my safety doing? And you know, when you do that, you get even better. Because now if I ain't got no work in my zone, I know where I can push to now to help the guy that's closer to me or closest to me help him cover his zone. So I 100 % would enjoy if the Browns, the coordinator was to come in there and change what they're doing. And when it comes down to it, 9-2, 9-2, 9-2, 9-2, 9-2.
43:34Joe Haden:Thank you very much. Not 6-7, 9-2. Listen, when it comes down to it, though, seriously,
43:47I, if I'm the D coordinator,
43:50Joe Haden:I'm talking to the D coordinator coming in in Cleveland. I don't want to run. Schwartz is defense. My ego. I'm talking to you. If you the new D coordinator in Cleveland, let me speak to your ego. You want to be known as a man that came in as a D coordinator. This is supposed to be your pinnacle, your peak, where you put your name on the map. You put your defense on the map. you go let them sit in there with the same defense of the defensive coordinator that was before you huh he done went and quit on them boys he done cussed out everybody in there probably talked about somebody's mom or two you go let him keep his defense in there you the new D coordinator?
44:47If it was me, I'm a man, strong man.
44:53Joe Haden:I believe in myself. I believe in my defense. I believe in my skills. If I'm the D coordinator in Cleveland, I'm throwing it out. don't you go in there don't you go in there and use his defense because all they go say is you ain't do nothing all you did was come in here and take his book you took his book right here and you said hey guys this is what we're going to do I just give it back to you if I'm me you come in there ego I'm talking to an ego throw that shit out man up, man up. I'm talking to you. I'm talking to you. Who is it? Mike Rittenberg? I'm talking to Mike. Hey, Mike. Hey. If you do well, all they go say is, okay, they were already doing well with the same defense from the past D coordinator.
45:59but
46:02Joe Haden:I mean if you're willing to accept that and go from there I guess I guess that's okay I guess that's okay I don't know I don't know I know me me personally me being who I am and being a man a man you hear that a man a man Are you a man? Are you going to go with your or you go run with some other guys that left him hanging? I don't know. I don't know.
46:42Joe Haden:Me, I just told you what I'm going to do. Because I'm a man. Are you? Now. It says this doubtful that J.L.K. plays again. Jeremiah. what is it? Awosu? I'm going to say J-O-K. He's a linebacker. I think they had him, what, Jackson 21 or something like that? He ended up running into Derrick Henry, or Derrick Henry ran into him, and he injured his neck. And they're saying that, you know, it's doubtful that he plays again. Apparently, by his post, you got the post here? He doesn't feel the same way about that.
47:28Joe Haden:if we go by what they're reporting, then I guess it's that. But you know what? I'm going to give you a story. So I don't want to say it, Coach. Okay, listen. So I was in Pittsburgh, all right? This was like 2008. I never forget it. Never, ever, ever forget it. You know what? To hell with it. It was a special teams coach, okay? It was 2008, okay? and special teams coach goes and tells Mike Humple, I never forget him, Mike Humple, I think he was from Iowa, okay, linebacker, drafting him, I don't know, four, fifth, sixth round, something like that, all right, we're going through practice, this is when I was still playing special teams, I was starting there and playing special teams, kickoff, all that stuff, right, and he goes and tells this man to hit the wedge square, now, this is back when they had the big offensive linemen as the two and three man wedges, okay?
48:24Joe Haden:They locked up hands like this, okay? So it's shoulder to shoulder. They're coming down and they're taking on the four or the five, whoever it is that's coming down to that wedge. And he's sitting there and he tells him, you come in there and you take the wedge on square. Hold up, that ain't the worst. After he tells him you take the wedge on square like this, he tell him after you hit it, then you turn your hip. I said, hey. I say, huh? Hump, I say, if you do that shit, one, you might go to sleep. I say, and two, you go get a hip pointer because they go bang the shit out your hip. I'm not going to say you told me, James, be quiet, man.
49:02Joe Haden:Just let him coast. Nope, nope. I said, cool. I sat back. I was quiet. I was quiet. But we get into the linebacker thing. I say, Hump, hey, don't hit that way of square. I said, when you get down there, you make it look like you go hit it square, but you pick one. The one you pick, you take that shoulder or this shoulder and you bomb into him. And when you bomb into him, the bounce go actually put you into the hole because the other dude will be trying to hit you. He go miss off. And I told him this, right? And then you go and you make the tackle.
49:42Uncle.
49:42Joe Haden:Mike didn't listen. his career started and ended in preseason on the first kickoff. He runs down there. He listens to what this coach says. Why? Because you're thinking your coach is right. He knows what he's talking about. No, just because he coaches doesn't mean he knows what he's talking about. I'm trying to tell you, I have played this position forever. I have played it for the last five, six years. I was on special teams. Then I'm telling you, do not do this. But you're believing as a young player coming in that the person that is coaching you knows what they're talking about. And he doesn't want to not go down there and do it because he's thinking he might get cut.
50:33Joe Haden:I understand. But at the same time, listen to me. Listen to me. Listen to the other players. Bruh, don't do that. Kickoff. Mike runs down there. You can go and look at this. You could probably look it up. Mike hits the wedge square. He goes in and he hits the wedge square like this. The same way Mike went in, Mike came straight out from his head straight back to his neck, down through his ass, onto his back. That is the first, last, only play that Mike Humple played in the NFL. He never played another down. Okay? Now, I'm hoping this is not the case with JOK, but when you're getting reports that it's likely doubtful that you play again, I understand in your mind, you're like, yo, I'm not done.
51:38Joe Haden:I still, I can do it. But I think now it's been what a whole season and he still hasn't been able to get back on the field. And I'm 100 % understand how he feels, but I'm also in understanding of how the teams and medical stats would feel because if you put him back out there and God forbid something would happen that is now their responsibility liability so I'm hoping that he can get back out there I'm hoping that it's you know it's not correct because nobody you know wants to end their career early or in the manner that, you know, he ended his or could possibly be ending his. But to get another team after you have, I'm assuming it's a medical professional saying it's likely doubtful that he'll be able to return or play again, that's going to be extremely extremely hard.
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