Deebo & Joe - Part 1: Panthers Beat Cardinals in HOF Game + Mike Tomlin on McCarthy Hire

22:32Like, that actually might be just the last three years now I think about. That's a project, and he's looking like this already? Come on now. That's the project I want to get a hold of. That's the project I want to be able to go ahead and develop. because he is truly raw. Yes, he is truly raw. He ain't got nothing that he done built up over the last 10 years. I can adjust, get him to understand and manipulate and mold him into what it is that I need to do. Look at him right now.

23:04James Harrison:That sound like me, Debo. I didn't start playing corner until I went to Florida. Until I went to Florida. So you don't have bad tendencies to break. Get good coaching and you're going to learn the right stuff. Teach me the right stuff. and he seems like he's ready to learn and he's a quick learner. So you don't have bad tendencies. It's like, no, no, no. I know what I'm doing. I did this before. No, coach, let me know what to do and I will execute it exactly how you tell me. So those are the most like technically sound because when they don't have nothing to go from, you don't got bad tendencies to break.

23:37Exactly. Like here's the big thing though. Like you were even playing football. He wasn't even playing football, dog. Yeah, no, for sure, for sure. Three, four years ago, four years ago, whatever it may be like he wasn't even playing football so this is really fresh to him he's natural at this now you give him the tools and the instruments to actually be better and the understanding of how to build it up like and this is a rookie that is holding his own against the vets your top players on your defense now that's that's something to be talked about baby like i don't know you know everybody's talking about oh the the for a first round you know that's not that it's early i understand but give us give us time what's that noise you hear that noise

24:30James Harrison:joe can you hear me yeah i can hear you a little you sound like a little like uh like sputtery sputtery something ain't right joe i don't know what's going on i'm hearing it sound like a uh a damn worm or something like chewing on my wires or something. I don't know what the hell that was.

24:55Joe, man, I don't know what the hell that was, bro. You couldn't hear that at all? Like I heard that. It was like... That's all I could hear. What was it? You couldn't even hear me talk. Listen, listen, I hope this get better. It might be your internet, man. I think it's your internet. Because my stuff, we ain't really had one problem. It was a shutdown. But they actually did something to the whole thing. Like yours has been a little janky.

25:26James Harrison:My Wi-Fi snapped out. Then it snapped back in. But now as soon as I did, it's a little. You hear that? That is you. That's your worms over there eating your wires up and stuffing that nice mansion you got over there. Give me two seconds. Let me try to get that. Man, listen, it's cool. I don't even hear it right now, but what I want to jump to is your Cleveland Browns over there. So, I guess I hear it again. I guess Jerry Judy attempted to clear. Joe, what is that, bro?

26:07Can the chat hear that? okay good y 'all can't hear it so good let's roll with it joe they can't hear so let's roll with it now okay bet jerry judy attempted to clear the air on i guess a viral video that was suggesting he wanted deshaun watson to start over shador sanders so jerry judy told the reporters that the video was cut. And before the edit, he showed his daughter, which prompted a viewer to ask how old she was. He said he threw up four because she's four years old. Joe. Yes.

26:47James Harrison:I did my research. I did my research. And you know how people always can chop and screw stuff. And Debo, when you're on live, you know how people be always commenting and the stuff gets to scroll and people say different things. And when you can answer something with somebody, how old is your daughter? You can easily, somebody under it, like three comments under could say, oh, who's, what quarterback do you like? So trying to stare up the pot, you can easily do that. You know what I'm saying? And for me, I don't think that he would, I don't think he did that on purpose. I think somebody made the little video, made it look like he did that for the four.

27:21James Harrison:His daughter is actually four years old. So I feel like there's some legitimacy to it. I don't think that he would do that out of spite. just because of what's going on. I would hope not. And then just because, too, it's just too much drama that he knows that they're going to ask him the questions about that the same way that they just did when he was sitting there with the Browns media and he answered it like, no, it's about my kid. And you know how people always want to start something up. There's a quarterback competition they got going on. He can't do nothing right. If you put up anything of a four, like me and you, D, but we could, a peace sign is a two.

27:53James Harrison:They could think he's talking about Shador. You know what I'm saying? People can manipulate and cut stuff. And if you're doing something on live, 1 ,000%, they can manipulate you to make you look like you're trying to cause mess when you're really not. So I think if he wanted to cause mess, he knows how easy it really is. But that one, when you're on live, people asking questions. He was with his daughter a little earlier, showed her. A fan could be like, yo, how old are you? Like, cover the life. Oh, cover the life could be on there speaking something nice. We answering it under it. Somebody asked a wild question.

28:23James Harrison:And somebody puts that, oh, is he answering to that? They could have us looking crazy. So I see where he's coming from. I don't think he was doing that for that reason.

28:35Joe, you know me. What? I'm just, listen, you know, I think and I get into thought processes of what could or couldn't be. So for me personally, I ain't going to lie to you, man. This is some bullshit, bro. And now you got this man talking about he got to think about how to answer a question that somebody asked him about his child. Because now he needs to have the foresight to know that some idiot out here go try and manipulate it into something else. Jerry, Judy, bruh, don't even worry about this. like it's not even something to give thought to to be honest with you you know and if he stopped talking if he stopped talking to y 'all and give y 'all nothing then all of a sudden oh he an asshole yeah he ain't he ain't he ain't being he ain't being a good he ain't being a good uh nfl player he's not he's not no no y 'all done went on head and y 'all done did some bs and took something out of context.

29:54Now this man talking about he got to think about how to answer a question about how old his daughter is because y 'all gonna go out here and try and flip it and make it to something else. The dude said, I've been in the league for what was it? He said seven years. Seven years now. He said five of those six years, it's been a quarterback competition within those years. Like, I've been through this. Y 'all think I'm stupid enough to go and actually answer a question like that? Y 'all think I'm, I don't have enough maturity or understanding to know like that wouldn't be a good thing. Like, no. So Jerry, Judy, I 100 % with you, Joe.

30:36I believe in people want to go and shoot and take it however they want to. And that's just, I think that's just Cleveland, bro. I think y 'all just I think y 'all reporters, y 'all fans, or supposedly fans, whatever it may be, y 'all true fans wouldn't do nothing like that, but y 'all reporters and all that, man, they ain't got nothing to start no trash. It only seems like they be writing nothing, bro. I don't know. I don't know. You're supposed to have your home team supposed to be your people that are supposed to be with you, like support you all the way through, like almost to the point of a fault.

31:10Y 'all can't even get a little bit. What's going on over there, Joe? They still letting them in the building and all that. They letting them talk to people. They letting them interview people. They have them in the—like, all that. And they still—like, all this whole offseason. Like, what do you think, Joe? Say that one way. I came back because now I can hear you clearly. I said, why does your reporters, your Cleveland-based reporters, why do they go so hard at trying to make controversy with your Browns, man? Man, why don't they go and try and support something, try and try and give a little positive reinforcement?

31:47Your home report is supposed to be the guys that's for you. Y 'all got a bunch of them that just seem to want to cause drama and start shit. Why is that? I don't know.

31:57James Harrison:A lot of it is clickbait, I think. And a lot of it is just we haven't won in a long time. So I don't know. I don't I really don't know. And there's some days you're trying to find something to talk about. And until you start winning games, that's the only way that's going to change. Because at the beginning of the season, fans are like, oh, no, we can't get too hyped because we do that every year. And next thing you know, we're mathematically eliminated. So they get pissed. And that turns into the media and that turns into everybody. So they can, when you don't win playoff games, I understand it, but I'm not with it.

32:30James Harrison:And that's why I wouldn't want to try to bring up some of these stories. You got to let the season play out. You got to let it go. But getting always just be bringing because that's what that's what people are going to talk about, though. They're going to talk about the bad stuff when you haven't been able to have you're not. We haven't won games. So we got to go out in the wind so we can finally start talking about that. Yeah. Like, I don't even know why this is a story. Dylan Gabriel told reporters that he doesn't feel disrespected that the Browns quarterback battle has focused on Deshaun Watson and Shador Sanders.

33:00He said, I don't take things personally. It's business. I'm focused on what I need to do to get better. and that's all I'm focused on. Like, why would that even be a story that he would, like, why would that even be put out there? Because they want him to say something I know. They probably want, I don't know. I was going to get messy. I ain't going to get messy, Joe. No, no, no. How hard is that, you know, for a guy to actually just be like, yeah, I understand it's a business, da-da-da-da, whoop, whoop, whoop. Especially dealing with y 'all reporters, bro. Like, they trying to gas everything.

33:32Like, I ain't going to lie. Last year, though, he gave him a little bit of gas. You know, he was doing a little pillow talk. He gave him a little bit of gas, though. You know what I'm saying? So I think they was trying to set him up again, you know? Because, look, it wasn't his fault.

33:43James Harrison:Last year, he was drafted before Shador Sanders. He had the opportunity, but Kevin Stefanski obviously wanted him to play over Shador. So he was getting those reps, you know what I'm saying, with Joe Flacco. So when he got his opportunity, it was before Shador. He got his chance. I didn't think he was throwing the ball too deep down the field. You know what I'm saying? Like his touchdown to interception ratio was nice, but that was just because we were dinking and dunking. We weren't throwing the ball down the field. And when he did throw the ball down the field, I didn't see the strength in his arm.

34:15James Harrison:It would flutter in the air sometimes. So let it be known. I understand where he's coming from, where now when he got out the game, Shador Sanders went in there and he threw the ball down the field a little bit more. And I saw more of the Browns offense being able to have a chance. So now Shador, with Dylan Gabriel, I respect that he understands that it's a business. It's the NFL. He was in there last year with Coach Stefanski that actually liked him a little bit more. That's why he got a chance over Shador Sanders. So now Shador's in the quarterback battle with Deshaun Watson. Saturday, August 22nd in Tampa.

34:52Witness an MMA legend's final fight. Chris Cyborg, one of the greatest in history. She's an absolute pioneer in the sport. Defense her PFL world title one last time. Unforgettable end to an unforgettable career. Saturday, August 22nd, live from Benchmark International Arena. For tickets, visit pfl.info slash Tampa. Sophistication, class, restraint, dignity. none of these words have anything to do with super troopers three one two three go barbara in the house hope you guys are too drunk already now in theaters no new info on the guy who did it oh so it couldn't have been a woman sexist you ever see oceans eight and now super troopers three meow playing only in theater rated r under 17 not admitted without pimp Amazon Health AI presents Painful Thoughts.

35:53I, um, I can't stop scratching my downtown. Yeah, but I'm not itching to go downtown and tell a receptionist I'm here to talk about my downtown. Some things you'd rather type than say out loud. There's no question too embarrassing for Amazon Health AI. Chat your symptoms and get virtual care 24-7. Healthcare just got less painful. Healthcare can feel complicated. That's why Optum uses technology to connect the people and processes that make healthcare easier, more affordable, and more effective. We're making it clearer for you to know exactly what your benefits cover. And to help you better manage your health, we're coordinating care between your doctors and your technology.

36:39We believe better, simpler healthcare is always possible. That's healthy optimism. That's Optum. Visit Optum.com to learn more. Ready for a night that's nothing short of iconic?

36:52James Harrison:Salt-N-Pepa and TLC are heading your way for the It's Iconic tour, their landmark co-headlining tour with special guests and Vogue. Believe it or not, this is the first time all three of these legendary groups have toured together, and I mean legendary. It's going to be packed with decades of R &B and hip-hop hits, so don't miss your chance to experience these icons. Grab your tickets today. Well, now when he's playing well, he's doing exactly what he needs to do. Dylan Gabriel is not saying nothing. He's playing well. When you're looking at his numbers, that's why people are bringing up, oh, why isn't Dylan Gabriel in the conversation?

37:26James Harrison:Let your play do the talk for you. When you're throwing completions, when you're throwing touchdowns and not interceptions at training camp, other people are going to be like, oh, what about Dylan? You don't have to be the one like, yeah, I think I should be back in the talk. No, no, no, no, no. You just chill. You just play the way you're supposed to be playing because you weren't doing too bad, but you weren't nothing special. So learn, get these reps that you get and do the best that you can with them. When you go and get your opportunities in these preseason games, look good. Don't look bad.

37:57James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? So the best thing that Dylan Gabriel is doing is just playing football. It's a business. He realizes that the best thing I can do is play well, stay out the way, not try to bring up extra controversy because I'm going to let my play speak for itself. And that's what I like with Shador, Deshaun Watson. Listen, it's the outside that's making it like when they're asking these questions, because if they say something crazy, then it's looking like, oh, right now they're always saying the right thing. It's a competition, obviously, but I have to do what I have to do, play well on the football field, and that's what's going to happen.

38:30James Harrison:When they're going to see me throwing touchdowns, not interceptions, doing well in the two-minute drills, scoring in red zones, that's what's going to do well. When the preseason game comes, I'm balling out. So with Dylan understanding, don't be out there acting like nobody earned nothing. You don't deserve it. Right now, Deshaun and Shador are in a quarterback competition that Todd Munkin said, these are the top two runners. You are obviously still on the team competing. He's giving you reps, and everybody else, when they see you playing well, they're like, oh, what about Dylan Gabriel? That's all you need.

39:01James Harrison:Keep doing what you're doing. Keep your mouth shut. Keep trying your best. And then your actions, your play is going to be able to elevate you. Yeah. Yeah, I agree with you 100%. Thank you, my brother. I ain't talking positive, but you know, sometimes you got to talk positive. You know, when I say stuff that makes sense, you can agree. I got to agree, Joe. I can't agree. Just like if I would have went against the, you know, the Jerry Judy, you believe Judy? Yeah, I believe. Like, what is he talking about? Y 'all trying to make a damn mountain out of a molehill. Like, it's crazy. It don't even make no sense to go there.

39:39But Aaron Donald. Yes, he is. Aaron Donald. Yes, he is. He made in the coming days. And if he returns, they said the Rams would take him to Australia, bruh, for week one against the 49ers. And the goal would be 30 to 40 snaps. Yeah, to be more careful. Yeah, yeah. Bruh. Listen. If he come back. Yeah. Bro, I don't even know no more. I'm starting to believe like he might come back. Anyway, bro, if he comes back, how long do you think it'll take him to get back to all pro level? You know what I'm saying? AD's not old.

40:29James Harrison:And I don't think AD has really stopped working out too much. Just been training, Joe. I hear you. He ain't been training like that football training. I hear you for AD. I don't know. I don't know. 30, 40 snaps. You know what I'm saying? I don't know. I don't think it's going to take him too long. He's Aaron Donald. He retired early. It was like Barry or Megatron. You know what I'm saying? They take two off, and I think not too many. Two, dude. I'm not saying everybody could do it. I think Aaron Donald could do it. Because if he would have played 14 years. Okay, so how long do you think it's going to take him to get back?

41:06James Harrison:A year and a half to come back? Yes. But right now, it's AD. I'm believing in him to do it and, like, come back and... So you believe in him to come back for sure? And be a dog. And how long? I don't think AD's coming back if he's not going to feel like he's AD. If he don't think he can do what he did, if he don't think he can really still, like, throw people out the way. Joe, I did that, bruh. I was only six months, Joe. I retired in what was it March, April something like that right I was still training and you see how I trained but I wasn't training how I would train if I was getting ready for a season bro I hear you okay I hear you Debo and I literally that wasn't two years bro that wasn't two years and coming back I got that well they told me it was like it'll be like 15, 20 snaps you know you be back 15, 20 snaps or whatever we played against tampa bro and i don't even know how many snaps i got it was like it was like 45 50 snaps or something bro like joe here's the thing you gotta understand man day one six months bro day one i was older too i was damn near 40 so it's a little different that's what i'm trying to tell you but not even no it was like 36 i was close to 40 whatever it was a couple years difference whatever it may be 35 36 whatever when i first came back but the point i'm trying to make to you bro it's the body that hardening up you know how you get in the training camp bro and you ain't been hitting all season and then you get in the training camp in that first week or two you you chewing advil trying to get your shoulder sore your forehead is sore from your helmet just pressing on just having it on your head and all that other stuff like now you take that and times the body part like he's out of it two years six months bro six months day one bro I was looking at the door like yo my body is already hurting after practice and this is just day one he retired at 32 he's 35 dude three years he coming back when I came back damn near but he's three two years out bro You know how bad that is on your...

43:29Bro, the hardening up. Think about this. I was a rookie. My rookie year, I played like three quarters of a game for the first time ever. It was like the second or third game of the season. Might have been the first. I don't remember. But I know it was in Detroit. I know that for a fact. The next day, Bill Cowher gave us the day off. If he hadn't gave us the day off, I didn't know what I was going to do, bro. I could barely get out of bed. I had to call my dad and be like, yo, dad, I don't even know if this is for me. He like, ah, you be all right. Your body are toughened up too. He was right. He was right.

44:01But I had that thought. And that was at like 20 something. He done took off almost three, two and some change. And now we just go go back and think it's just go be peaches and cream. My man worked out in the helmet. He ain't even had no shoulder pads on now. He ain't have to hit nobody or nothing. get back to that that all pro form he could get back to all pro form I don't know I don't know Joe I really don't I don't know it could take him maybe six games or so something like that because you got to get back into that competition and go on all that stuff build up your timing build up it could take him a minute but back to that old AD I don't know about that and I don't know if he want to come back if he can't be that old AD I don't know it's a good thing for him to come back Especially after you just told us you done did everything you need to do.

44:58And you done accomplished everything you wanted to accomplish. But now all of a sudden you ain't accomplished that and now you're coming back.

45:04James Harrison:Thing is, Debo, he not coming back and has to, like, when we say an old AD, like that was defensive player of the year. Him and now he got miles on his team and D-line is not like there's no slouches there. They was top five D-line in the league last year. So with him coming back, it's just adding more fuel, more to the fire. It's not like he got it. AD, like you said, AD a little bit under AD is still all pro. You know what I'm saying? Like he was defensive player of the year. What if he's right under defensive player of the year? Still one of the best to do it. So he can still do damage. 10, 12 sacks, still holding stuff up.

45:41James Harrison:And he can't be double team now. Like who you going double team? You going double team Miles? You going double team? It's just so much more one-on-ones. So now he's looking at it like, oh, if you want double miles over there, now I'm going to be able to get this work. And I was never able to get one-on-ones as much. I understand what you're saying, but he's still got to get back to that point where he is the player that he was, and it's a need and necessity to double team. You see what I'm saying? Like, you out of the game. It's the difference between working out and then going in there and actually having to move around in that environment again, and you haven't done it in two years.

46:20Like six months? Well, he got stuff that he ain't even thought about having to use. Like you got to get in there and just twerk and twist and like all that. Getting those obliques in there and all that stuff. And it's another man putting forces against you. The weights don't put no force against you, but in whatever plane it is that you're working it. He ain't trying to twist you and throw you down and all that other stuff. Yeah. The good part is he don't got to rush.

46:54James Harrison:I said he don't got to rush. The team is stacked. He could ease into it. They need him for the playoff. They're going to make it regardless. So when just a healthy A.J. Like you said, six teams. You come back and you don't win it. By playoff time, he's back to caliber. I understand that, but you come back and you don't win it? Because they already crowned y 'all Super Bowl champions. You come back and you don't win it, then what? What did you accomplish?

47:23It's Super Bowl or nothing when he comes back. They're going for Super Bowl. So anything else but a Super Bowl is a failure. They was going for Super Bowl without AD. I understand that, but with AD coming back, with him back, it has to be Super Bowl 100%, especially with him back or nothing. Because you're telling me you done came back after you already said you accomplished everything you need to accomplish. You walked away from the game. You come back, and then you don't win the Super Bowl. Deebo. What did you just do? They've tripled down. What's the worst thing? What if he comes back and he doesn't even play good?

48:05Like, what if he comes back and he plays, like, a good player, not AD?

48:15James Harrison:Does it damage his legacy? He's not. I don't think any way AD is on this team is going to make them any worse, any version of Aaron Donald. So once they went and got Trent McDuffie on defense and they just need a secondary, boom, I'm like this. is they basically going Super Bowl or Buss. They made him the highest paid corner and brought his homeboy. Then they went and got Miles Garrett. Now I'm instantly thinking, oh, they're Super Bowl or Buss. Aaron Donald added additionally. Now it's like, obviously, he's thinking it's Super Bowl or Buss. Like, they've tripled down. Like, the Rams now have got OC on offense, scoring hella points.

48:58James Harrison:I was just looking at them last year with the defense. When they played against the Seahawks, they couldn't stop Sam Darnold and Walker. So if they can, they've got Miles, they went and got McDuffie. And now if Aaron Darnold comes back to what they already have, that's tripling down on it's Super Bowl or bust for sure. So Aaron Darnold coming back, I'm like, duh, he definitely thinks that he has nothing else to lose. They're going to win a Super Bowl this year. Or for sure, like you said, it was for no reason because he was saying he accomplished everything he needed to accomplish. He's going to come back this year and do it and go get another Super Bowl.

49:37James Harrison:I'm like, yeah, okay, I can. I think he might have answered that. He didn't come back and win it because I'm looking at him like, yeah, I thought the Rams were going to win it after when they got, not going to win it, but up in the conversation. Like they're not tooling down. They're tooling up. And they barely, they made it to the NFC championship game last year. Matthew Stafford looks nice. Devontae looks nice. Puka's back. Still got the running game. Now they got the defensive backs and Miles and AD. What Miles getting this year? What are you getting paid? Say that. How much Miles getting paid this year?

50:16What are you getting paid this year? What is it? 40-something? I don't know. What is it? 30-something? I don't know. So now you got to pay AD. All right? so it's breaking us what they got left it's breaking up so i think um i think gary miles is what 37 something like that miles 37 something like that they got about 26 left so i'm sure he could come back for 26 but he turned down that kind of money because he had already accomplished everything he wanted to accomplish. Now you come back. Then if you're coming back and it's not for the money because you turned down more money than that and then you don't win the Super Bowl, I don't know if that's a good look.

51:15But you came back and all the other stuff he said beforehand is false. He came back because I feel like he's chasing another title. I don't see AD being that dude, especially after he just told me that he accomplished everything he needed to accomplish. Why would he come back and chase another title? And then if he don't get it, does that hurt his legacy? Like I said, I think it would because now you came back and you didn't. What if he come back? He don't play up to AD standards. What if he come back and God forbid he gets hurt? It's a lot of the things to talk into. you know, talking to that.

51:53And, you know, I'm just saying, hey. Man, got a lot of businesses around too, man. You can't do all that when you up here doing this football thing again, AD. Just saying, man. That's all I'm saying.

52:11Saturday, August 22nd in Tampa. Witness an MMA legend's final fight. Chris Cyborg, one of the greatest in history. She's an absolute pioneer in the sport. Defense her PFL world title one last time. Unforgettable and unforgettable career. Saturday, August 22nd, live from Benchmark International Arena. For tickets, visit pfl.info slash Tampa. Skincare means Sephora. Makeup, same. They've got the products, expertise, and the brands that fit your lifestyle. But when I talk about hair care, do you make the same connection? Well, you should. Sephora is just as trusted for hair whether you're looking to repair, strengthen, hydrate, or add shine.

52:58You'll find brands like Kerastase, K18, and Gisu. Plus, the guidance that helped you choose what's right for your hair. And with free shipping and same-day delivery, great hair care is easier than ever. Shop hair at Sephora today. The Hulu original series Furious is now streaming on Hulu and Hulu on Disney+. Starring Emmy Rossum as Alice Black, Furious follows a rookie FBI agent on the hunt for Catherine, played by Lola Petticrew, a mysterious and calculating female serial killer. While Alice upholds justice, Catherine kills for it, terrorizing the rich and powerful men of New York in her pursuit of vengeance.

53:37With secrets that change everything, Alice discovers there's a thin line between Hunter and Prey. Watch the Hulu original series, Furious, Now streaming on Hulu and Hulu on Disney Plus for bundle subscribers. Terms apply. Healthcare can feel complicated. That's why Optum uses technology to connect the people and processes that make healthcare easier, more affordable, and more effective. We're making it clearer for you to know exactly what your benefits cover. And to help you better manage your health, we're coordinating care between your doctors and your technology. We believe better, simpler healthcare is always possible.

54:14That's healthy optimism. That's Optum. Visit Optum.com to learn more. Sometimes the butt goes through a lot. When the butt speaks, you listen. Preparation H is the butt care expert,

54:29James Harrison:known for helping people care for their hemorrhoids, offering relief in different forms that adapt to needs and moments. Medicated wipes formulated with witch hazel, aloe, and vitamin E to help keep things calm, cool, and collected. Rapid relief spray with maximum strength lidocaine provides fast relief from itching, burning, and swelling. There's also a multi-symptom relief cream when broader support is needed. Preparation H treats the issue rather than just masking it. No shame here, only solutions. So if a butt has been begging for a little kindness, wipe and treat for better relief with the number one doctor recommended brand, Preparation H.

55:07This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human.