Deebo & Joe - Part 1: Pittsburgh's Revamped Offense, Browns squash Garrett Trade Rumors, Steelers Breaking News

21:51So he's trying to give these dudes an answer, man. He's trying to give them information, you know. But what you're doing is you're giving them a little bit too much information because over time they'll figure out what it is that they're doing. But you done went on ahead and gave it to them already without them even having to wait four games to get some type of tendencies

22:11James Harrison:and all that other stuff. I hear what you're saying. I hear what you're saying a thousand percent, Debo. But in this specific instance, I feel like he's legitimately being sarcastic because he answered, no, I used to say it was 53, now it was 55, and went on to name, you know what I'm saying, some of his things that are just kind of the basics of his defense. You know what I'm saying? You got to went on the averages, like, just to go about all the stuff that he said. I'm not saying he's truly upset, but I'm saying, like, yeah, man, don't be giving out the good information. Yeah, like you said, as a – I wouldn't say it sarcastically.

22:49I would say it more as a just a little surprise you did it. It's not a big thing, but yeah, don't give it to them. Make them have to earn it because a lot of these coaches out here won't sit there and look at everything that's going on like you got Dick LeBeau going back and looking at what you did 20 years ago and what position you did it with and what kind of players you had that was playing the same roles and positions and he was going to make his moves from there. Some coaches don't do that. I understand what he's saying in that aspect. But again, I think it's like, yo, people give too much information.

23:22You want to know something? The easiest way to get a young dude to talk? Easiest way to get a young dude to talk is to be quiet and ask him a stupid question. Ask him a stupid question. I call him stupid questions. So how do you feel about what they're doing with you, about how they're going to use you? And dudes start talking. Yeah. And they hold the mic there like this, yo. They hold the mic there like this. And then when you stop talking, they keep the mic there. and he feel like he got to keep going. So he started adding more and more information. Before he know it, he done told him about the trick play that they done made up that ain't nobody supposed to even know.

23:56I got it.

23:57James Harrison:No, no, for sure. For sure. I know what you're saying. I know what you're saying. Only reason why I'm saying a little bit different about this man McCarthy is because he's saying that he's answering. He's giving his jewels about what he does on defense, about like the winning on first downs, like some of his core values of what he thinks that he would want to do. So that's the only reason why, but I know what you're saying about when people just shut your mouth. You know what I'm saying? Like, less is more. They got to make them do their research. Hey, man, less is more. Just give them what they want.

24:26How do you feel? They got to study everything. They sit there and they just hold the thing. I'll be like, next? Yeah. That's it? Nah, nah. I ain't giving no more than you asked for. You want all that information out of me, man? You better give me a detailed question. And then on top of it, I may not even get it to you anyway. so it it really don't matter and that's another thing like uh mccarthy he's he's closing practices these boys ain't gonna be uh sitting there watching practice every day they ain't they ain't gonna be open to just seeing practice every day that's something they used to you do that i like it though i love because i don't have this i don't have all these reporters in here sitting here trying to write a story that's going to fit their their um their narrative for what it is they want to write and agree with.

25:14Hey. Hey, listen. Yes. Listen. Cleveland, talk to your boy. Talk to your boy. Marky, closing practices. They want to count reps and all that other. Don't give them nothing to count. Don't give them nothing to count. But I know y 'all ain't going to do that. I know y 'all ain't going to do that. We're talking about the Steelers right now.

25:36James Harrison:Every time I hear Mike McCarthy talk, though, he's talking ball. He's talking fundamentals. He's talking facts. He's talking real ball stuff. So I love it every time I hear him talk. Yeah. Close the practices. Them boys ain't going to be having access to every practice now, man. They about to lose their mind. You don't need to be there any day. No. You don't need to be there any day, man. You see us in training camp. It's early. We trying stuff out, man. Let us get our feet wet. No question. Look here, man. The Browns. What's the moment? DC. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yes, sir. What do we got? Browns DC attempts to clarify where things stand with Miles Garrett.

26:27Ruttenberg said, knew that would be a question. I'm going to leave a lot of that interaction between me and Miles. he's just gonna leave it he ain't doing nothing with it he said it's voluntary and we respect the voluntary aspect of it and whatever team you're on, your team my daughter's softball team he really don't want to answer the question I like that though that's called deflecting

26:59love everybody to be around but also understand that people have different things had great communication with different people had great communication and execution for when everyone's here to put it together to put it okay so listen joe he's saying everything is is great it's good i don't know if he's saying it's great and it's good but i think he's saying that you know what i ain't giving y 'all no information you asked me a question and I answer it how I want to. And that's how you do it. That man's a professional. Like that's how you're supposed to do it. You know what I'm saying? Like when it's a tough question and you can't get a real answer to him or you don't know what the real answer, you don't want to cause no more controversy or you just don't want to give him the answer.

27:48You redirect the question and you say what the hell it is you want to say. Hey, James, what's going on with Miles? Man, I'm going to tell you something, man. My girl's softball team has something i don't know but anyway uh it's great we're doing good guys here working it's

28:04James Harrison:all great let's go what you do coach is you control what you can control you there's a lot of other things that's going above your head with the general managers with the head coaches that are working about what miles got going on miles garrett is under contract and your job is to coach who is in that locker room when you go out to those otas the people on that field are the people that you need to be able to address. So when people are addressing like Aaron Rodgers or you got contract dudes, Miles Garretts, these guys that aren't coming to OTAs, they're in their second contracts. They might have money that they need to be there.

28:42James Harrison:Sometimes they just don't. It's like, all right, I'm up. Miles Garrett has posted pictures now. He's in vacation with his girlfriend or his fiance. So let that man have his time. He's not that right now. He's off. He's chilling. OTAs are optional team activities. So you want to talk about this stuff every time. There's always players that are normal, higher up in their contracts that start to not go when they get to their seventh, eighth, ninth year, tenth year in the league. They just don't go to OTAs. And it's not a big deal because now you're expecting when those dudes come to the mandatory things that they're going to be ready to go and they're going to perform at the high level, at the level they're expected to perform.

29:23James Harrison:They're going to learn the defense. They're not going to take long to get back on track. So that is what it is. Coaches, when he's talking about, you know, obviously you have to understand people are all in different situations. Talking about like his youth, his daughter's youth team. Like sometimes people got trips, people got stuff going on. He's just trying to make it his own little thing to just say like, obviously we want every player to be here. But certain players have certain different things going on. Other things that they're going to be, other things that they're going to be doing. But when they get here, my job is to coach the players that are here.

29:56James Harrison:So we're going to welcome Myles Garrett here with open arms when he gets here because he's an amazing player. So it's like, you know, all these answers too may get back to Myles Garrett. You don't want to be talking crazy about your player that you expect when he gets back. You know what I'm saying? You want it to be welcome with open arms, Myles Garrett. When you come, you're the defensive player of the year. You had 23 sacks. We expect you to be a leader and to be performing once you get on the field because when you're not here, it is what it is. We want you to be here, but you're not. So I think that's kind of what the coach, you don't really, it's a slippery slope.

30:29James Harrison:You don't have too much to really say, so you could just spin it how you want to. You don't have control of what Miles is doing. You would love him to be there, but he's not. So you're going to do your job as to coach the players that you have. Well, Joe, you know me. I got a thing. Yes. you know and I gotta think outside the box for me Joe I hate to say this but it is voluntary it is involuntary seems to mean listen Joe listen involuntary means exactly what it says but Joe when you got a million dollar how you don't you it's my turn go ahead go ahead go ahead listen Joe when you got a million dollar incentive to just show up and be present at the off season workout program for only 85 % and you're only there what Three, sometimes four days a week.

31:47So I find it hard to rhyme and reason that. But I ain't never made$40,$45 million a year. So I don't know if I would care about an extra million if I don't get my time the way I want. You understand that, Joe? Amazon Health AI presents Painful Thoughts. I can't stop scratching my downtown. Yeah, but I'm not itching to go downtown and tell a receptionist I'm here to talk about my downtown. Some things you'd rather type than say out loud. There's no question too embarrassing for Amazon Health AI. Chat your symptoms and get virtual care 24-7. Healthcare just got less painful. Go on, get a little out there.

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34:47Okay, so if he doesn't show up for that, now... That's when it's tricky. Now we can start talking. Yes. Start talking, right? It gets tricky. It gets tricky. Now we got some fuel for the fire, right? We're going to agree on that, right? Okay. So now, with that being said, I think this could be a situation where, you know, he wanted to leave last year. He wanted to get out of there. He wanted to have opportunity to win. But they gave him the bag, and they made him the highest paid non-quarterback in NFL. But since then, Joe, been about two, three, four, five guys that done got more. He's no longer the highest paid.

35:32So maybe it's a situation where, especially when you take into account the$30 million restructure right there where he said, hey, I don't want it just yet. Let me move it on back for y 'all. and and then moving it back or him allowing them to move it back it allows them after the june 1st to take that pro and and separate that thing into 26 and 27 so they can break that down over multiple years instead of just having to come out in one year joe which means it gives more chances of opportunities for them to get a trade and make a trade even though I believe he got a no trade cause in this matter, right?

36:30But that no trade cause means you got to send me where I want to go. Joe, I understand what he's doing. It makes sense to me right now, Joe. It makes all perfect sense. He know he ain't going to be there June 1. What I need to go there and learn and do anything for? That's why minicamp started June 9. He ain't going to never get a chance to see or go there, Joe. He going to be done, got that trade, got that deal, and be over somewhere else where it is that he want to be. And he going to be over there with their voluntary workouts as soon as they get that trade done after June 1st, Joe. He going.

37:02James Harrison:I hear you. Okay. That could be a possibility. That could be a possibility. And we would need to be getting three first-round picks.

37:16James Harrison:I'm just telling you. I ain't joke I think I gotta play Debo so look I'm expecting with Miles he's gonna come during the mandatory mini camp I'm expecting Miles to be there I'm hoping that Miles is there we're saying that if Miles is not there I got a scenario that if he doesn't it's for him to be gone okay it's a three team trade

37:45three teams

37:45James Harrison:three teams The team is the Eagles, the Patriots, and the Browns. Okay? The Eagles, the Patriots, and the Browns. Who getting who? The Eagles have to give up A.J. Brown and the first-round pick. 2028 first-round pick. Okay. They get Miles Garrett. He would be happy to go there because he wants to go to a contender. You know what I'm saying? Solid team. The Patriots would get, they would have to give up the 2027 and the 2028 first round pick. And they get A.J. Brown. And then the Browns would give up Myles Garrett and they would get three first round picks. They would get the 2028 first round pick from the Eagles.

38:44James Harrison:They would get the 2027 first round pick from the Patriots and their 2028 first round pick. So they would get three first round picks. The Patriots get A.J. Brown. The Eagles get Miles Garrett. And the Browns get three first round picks. That is my thing. Everybody's dysfunctional. Everybody's happy. Miles is happy. A.J. Brown is happy. The Patriots are happy. The Browns get three first round picks. The Browns are happy. I like that. I like that. Three first-round picks, Myles Garrett to the Eagles, A.J. Brown to the Patriots, Brown's three first-round picks. And the Browns got a 2027 first-round pick already and a 2028 first-round pick.

39:25James Harrison:So then we'll be sitting there with two in 2027 and two in 2028. But that'd be three in 2028. That's not a bad deal. Everybody's geeked. Deebo, you know that doesn't sound crazy at all. I think that'd be good for the Browns, because if we don't get rid of Miles, I said my first thing. If we keep Miles, I'm loving the trajectory that we're going. We got Miles. We can get more pieces. But if we did have to get rid of him and get compensation, three first-round picks for Miles Garrett right now, I think would be great for all three teams. Hell yeah, three first-round picks. That's a lot. No, why are you mad at the Browns?

40:07James Harrison:who's not happy in the deal? Maybe, maybe the Eagles, because they're giving up A.J. Brown. But no, A.J. Brown and A.J. Brown and one first-round pick for Myles Garrett. I like that for the Eagles. For the Patriots. The only Patriots is giving up two. The Patriots is giving up two, and they get an A.J. Brown. So that's the one where they might be looking like, but I'm not mad at that at all. That's good. A.J. Brown for two first-round. You're getting a solid, instant starter wide receiver for the Patriots, for Drake May. He's nice. You can get him a dog and good coaching. You know what I'm saying?

40:43James Harrison:You feel like you get him around a better system. They feel like they can handle A.J. Brown better in New England. Well, they had him in. He had him in Tennessee. That's his man. Yeah, he had him in Tennessee. And now I got you over here. We right next to the ship. Drake May dropping dimes over here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm loving it. but that's just if we end up, end up if Miles leaves. If Miles stays, keep Miles. That's the first, first thing first, keep Miles. If we don't keep Miles, listen to what I say. Who done told you about this trade, Joe? Somebody told you something, Joe. Nobody told me nothing.

41:24James Harrison:I just been looking around, trying to figure out who's feeling crazy. Yeah, looking around. That's probably why you was drinking so heavy. Cleveland lost, and y 'all know y 'all about to lose Miles. No, no, no. We ain't going to lose Miles. Miles is chilling. Miles is chilling. But I just wanted to say, like, if I was looking around. If I was looking around. If I was looking around. If I was. If I was. If I was. This is what it would look like. If I happened to look around and think of something that somebody might be thinking about, this might be something to think about. That's all I was saying.

41:58Man, look, we got breaking news. It says Adam Shatner. He said Steelers and senior assistant special teams coach Darius Swinton have parted ways due to violation of club policy per league sources. What happened there? He didn't even get a year in, did he?

42:23Like he got. For what? I don't know, bro.

42:33James Harrison:is hold on but did mike mccarthy not bring him in oh he just okay that's okay there we go brand new bro he ain't bro a couple what one or two two three months at the most man listen he might have been trying to rate us for the last three He either was trying to do his own thing and Martin McCarthy wasn't rocking with it or he got caught up in the South Side. Stop it, Joe. Stop it, Joe. Joe, stop it, Joe. Joe, we ain't stopping, Joe. We ain't doing this show. Stop it. Joe, leave the South Side alone, bro. Hey, Debo, I'm just saying. It's something. It just got to be football. Football where him and my...

43:23James Harrison:Joe, you know something? I know nothing. My name Bennett. I ain't in it. I'm just trying to say, I don't know what's going on. He just signed to the team during the offseason. It's only been offseason things going on. So unless you're not communicating with your coach and y 'all just... What's the policy you done messed up already? That's what I'm saying. Conduct detrimental. What kind of stuff are you doing right now? it's the off season. Like, unless you're not, unless you're coming in there with the coach and y 'all are literally not seeing eye to eye, you're like, nah, I don't think you're...

43:58James Harrison:I'm not going to go into that because it could get real messy and I don't want to get messy. I'm not trying to get messy either. All I'm trying to tell you is... Yeah, I don't want to know. I don't want to know. I got, Joe, I got information that I don't want to know that I know, I know, and I just wish I didn't know it. See, that's why I can say what I want to say because I don't know nothing. I'm just literally... saying. I'm just saying when I hear this off the top of my head. You got information you know. You got information you know. You said what? You rocking with owners and all that. You got information you know.

44:31You getting rings and all that shit. You got information you know.

44:34James Harrison:No, no, no. If you ask me a question. You ain't step a foot on the court, but you got you a ring. I had a bunch of feet on the court. What you talking about? Dude, feet on the court just because you court side do not mean you're going. That's the same court. Look, people. Where the f*** is you going, bro? Do you see this? This is actual court from the stadium. Dan Gilbert sent us. Certified. Court. Actual court from the game. Do you know what I'm saying? So I'm literally in it. Look at this. Look at this box, Debo. This ain't no play-play box. This is real land. Real, real feet on wood. And you ain't really have nothing.

45:32Nampi in that pot. Huh? You ain't have Nampi in that pot. All right, man. You ain't do nothing but sit there, yell and hoop and scream. You right. You right. In a seat. And you ain't do nothing for that. All you did was sit there and drink in excess, enjoy, because they won, and then did nothing. You did nothing, Joe. Ain't that... Ain't that... You're sitting there with that... Hey, Joe, here. Is this the same talk... That's the problem. That's the problem nowadays. Everybody gets a participation trophy. Here.

46:06James Harrison:Is this the same talk that you give to the Steelers fans? Here. Is this the same talk you give to the Steelers fans that come and celebrate the parade with you? Is this the same talk that you give to them? They don't get a ring, Joe. Is this the same talk that you give to them, though? They don't get a ring. Don't worry about my ring. Don't worry about my ring. Even if they were to get a ring, you would still be... Joe, you was talking with your hands all over your face. You never do that. What about the people that work inside Heinz Field? If they were to get to Heinz Field, if they were to get them rings, would you be okay with that?

46:42James Harrison:You was just sitting in there making them work, would you be okay with that? serving you in excess. Would you be okay with them getting the ring that worked inside? Okay. All right. That's all I need to know. Game in and game out. Putting in work for the company not sitting there yelling and screaming, hooping and hollering, drinking. You ain't even putting in no time. You ain't there on the beat. You know what? I would accept the fact that you ain't there when the crowd ain't there. You ain't there when the people and the fans ain't there. They there cleaning up every day. every day when ain't nobody there when people are there they don't need eyes on them you want to be there when the show is going I was there when we were losing games and there was no there was nobody there it wasn't all the way full me and I was there everybody everybody was there everybody was there Joe what about the other people that was there they didn't get a They didn't get a, come on Joe They didn't get a ring, why they didn't get a ring I can understand you didn't get a ring Why?

47:46Because they were That's part of what helped us grow That's part of what helped the whole The whole organization

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