Deebo & Joe - Part 1: REACTION to 49ers STOMPING Rams, Patriots BLUNDER vs Seahawks, Tua injured already

23:34James Harrison:Knees swollen, ankles swollen. Do not jump on the Rams' neck just yet. Just yet. Not yet. Not yet. I was on their neck. I was on their neck. Listen. Uh-huh. Listen. Choke them out. I was going to let them know all that talk that went on at the beginning of the year before the season started about how they was already crowned champions. Uh-uh. My friend said, uh-uh. We one of the 31 other teams. But... I guess I can't say that right now. No, not yet. Not yet. But, yes. Because the 16 hours, they was in the flight. They was in the air. Let them give it a little bye. But the 49ers, I ain't going to lie.

24:12James Harrison:They look good. They played a really good game. Defense, everything. They just got to stay healthy. 49ers. Now, listen. Hey, Rams, don't y 'all never do that again in life, in the history of the world. it's a big difference between going and working out and going and playing a game it's a big difference i can go out there and work out joe how many times you done came in at that you know oh man it ain't even no need to sleep let me go to practice and kill practice oh for sure because it's not doing it in a game no no no no no no the game is the show Everything is for the show. I just handicapped these boys in the show.

24:56I took away my mechanics on my F1 car. I said, hey, they don't even need it. Hey, matter of fact, don't even tune that engine up. We got it. You believe in your own hype. We that good? Hell no, you're not. Look here. Matter of fact, on Wednesday, Seattle, they went out there and they defeated the Patriots 13-10. Now, Drake May shined like a diamond for the Seattle Seahawks, man. That boy went 23 or 33 for 178 yards, one touchdown and three interceptions while wearing a Patriots jersey. No, let me stop.

25:38James Harrison:No, Debo, let him know. Let him know. Let me, let me, let me. If you play good, if you play good, people will crown you. If you play bad, it is what it is. So, hey, Joe, what do you think of his performance in this game, especially after what we've seen the last two years, man? Like, is this just a bad game, or is this one of those things where he may be having his sophomore slump his junior year? It could be that, because at the end of the day, this is where it comes to where people talk about its longevity. It's what have you done for me lately? And when you're at the quarterback position, rookie season looks beautiful.

26:18James Harrison:Same way with C.J. Strout. Then your next year, it's like, okay, all right, bet. It's looking good. And then he does two great seasons, and then he gets to the playoffs last year, the last five games. All these turnovers, not getting the ball to the right players, and then you start your next season. And then this first game, you don't want to say too bad, but in the fourth quarter, you throw three picks. We could have actually won the game. Now, you're not helping us. You're hurting us. So when it gets to the point where you start looking at quarterbacks where, Drake May, it's not, we know what you've done.

26:48James Harrison:We know that you can throw the ball. We know that you're a great quarterback. You were doing good your rookie season. You led them to the playoffs last year, 30 touchdowns, 10 picks. And then you come to the playoffs, and then we remember that. Trying to get half of what you need. We remember you throwing the picks. We remember the last thing that we saw you doing was not looking as good as you were doing these. We remember the good times, but the bad times in the playoffs, it's not looking that well. And then you start off the next season and it's like, okay, you're playing against the Super Bowl champs.

27:16James Harrison:We're in the building. This is the squad. We can see what happens. They lose their starting quarterback. So now you're playing versus the backup quarterback. You've not been playing well. Now you get to the fourth quarter. It's tie game. You can get a field goal. You're in field goal range. You throw a pick. Throw it out of bounds, bro. Throw it out of bounds. Live the fight another day. Don't try to do too much. You've already thrown two picks. And now you throw three picks with 25 seconds left. We have a timeout for us to be able to go to overtime. You be doing that us stuff, man. It's just who you with.

27:47James Harrison:When I say us, I'm just saying for people that are rooting. Okay. When I'm talking about a team, I like to just say, I'm just trying to put in the perspective of what we're talking about. You know what I'm saying? Like, not us. Like, I don't care. Right. But when you're looking at people going on Drake May and, like, I respect him being the – when you say he's a franchise quarterback, yes, I think that he's shown franchise things and he's been able to do that. But then when you start watching the games and you're being able to grade each game individually, it's not like we're taking away everything he's done before, but it's what have you done for me lately?

28:18James Harrison:When we've been in the position of playoffs with a good defense, you wet the bed. Now we're going in here. We're playing against a backup. Our defense is balling. They've been putting us in position the whole game. You've thrown two picks. And now we get down to we can get another field goal and you throw another turnover. It's just like one touchdown, three picks. That doesn't look good. And there's no reasons for it when you're looking at the tape. It's just bad. You're throwing it into bad situations. There's check downs there. It's not like you're running for your life. If you were running for your life, getting hit upside the head, you have a different conversation.

28:48James Harrison:But you're standing in the pocket making bad decisions, like throwing it to a squatted corner in cover two. Like, no, don't throw that. That's a bad play. That's just you not, you know what I'm saying, executing the quarterback position. So when I'm looking at it like that, I'm like, okay, the Patriots, Drake May, right now it is, we know what you've done, but you have to show better play on the field. Right now, we're grading you from what you're doing on the tape. So that game was not good. You could have played way better. The Patriots lost that game because you did not deliver. You wet the bed.

29:23James Harrison:So when we watch the next game, we want to see what's going on. If your defense is playing this well, Gonzalez and them boys. Gonzalez balled. He's worth the bag. When he was guarding JSN, he had no catches. He was running over in motion, communicating. He was able to do his thing. I'm like, yes, that's beautiful. But when you have Drake May out there, dude, everybody's doing their job. Now it's your turn to deliver the goods. And you fumble. So we go to the next game. We'll watch it again. We'll see how the offense does, the running game, if he's making bad decisions with the ball. They held the team to 13.

29:56James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? So like score 17. You win the game. And then we go talk about this stuff in a whole different way. Not in a way like, dude, you got to still play better, but it's better talking about this when we win 17-13 than we lose 10-13. It's like this. You just jacked it all up for real. You really blew the bag. You could have blown the bag with two picks, and then we ended up winning the game, and now we can still talk about it because it's not that good, but we still won. But now you're causing us to lose games. Yeah, and you ain't got everybody jumping on your neck afterwards like we doing right now.

30:27You understand? Yeah.

30:30James Harrison:Come on. Seattle, man. And that's what franchise is called about. Seattle, they had a little scare with Sam Darnold. He went down. And Joe, I ain't going to even lie to you, man. I thought when I saw it and they did that replay, I thought his kneecap was gone. But then later, they said it was his hip. So now I guess Darnold is expected to miss, they said, two weeks with, I guess they got a report. Yes. So the report that came in said it's not as bad as they thought it was. I guess Mike McDonald saying that they don't know how long it's going to be, but quote, really, really good news. Joe, you got hip problems.

31:18You know what I'm saying? You the hip dude.

31:20James Harrison:What you think happened to his hip, Joe? But Debo, I don't know. I couldn't tell you. I'm definitely not a doctor. I'm just hurting in the hips. All I got to tell you is I know what it feels like for your hip to hurt. You know what I'm saying? But I hope he's able to return. But it's just, with me, it's the Seahawks, their team. If he's able to return, they're going to be able to return. Hold on, man. Drew Locke stepped in now. He handled it. He did himself. Now, he went 16-22. He 187 yards, no interception, and a touchdown. Okay? You think that with Darnold out, You think they're going to be able to sustain and he'll be able to hold it and play well enough to keep them in the fight until he returns?

32:08James Harrison:This is what happens. I was worried about the running game. And they ended up drafting my man from Notre Dame, not Love, his backup. And he got him in the 32nd pick in the draft. He's a baller. So their running game didn't really lose any push. The offensive line is still blocking. Their running game is still looking dialed. JSN is still doing his thing. They got, they re-signed their receiver, 22. So for me, I think the Seahawks just have a full team. They're not asking Drew Locke to do too much. He didn't do too much. He just basically methodically got the ball where it needed to be. That pass to JSN was a five-yard pass that he took 45 yards for the touchdown.

32:54James Harrison:So it's like when you have a great defense, when you have a good team that's putting you in positions, it's the don't lose it. So Drew Locke, when he has great coaches, they're putting him in positions where it's like, boom, hand it off, hand it off. They were never behind the sticks. They were never asking Drew Locke to go convert a third down to 15. If they were, check it down. We'll punt the ball and our defense will put us in a position to get you the ball back, hopefully with better field position. It's like you got to realize what you got. And with Sam Darnold, he was making those good passes.

33:23James Harrison:He wasn't just out there slinging it all around. It was whenever it was time to make a good pass on that bang to JSN. He was delivering the goods. Nice little passes, 10 digs, a couple posts. It's not like he's just out there shotgun, willing and dealing, just making people like just freestyling. It's like your coach is calling the plays. You're executing. It's a team game. You got to do your part. Take them what they give you, Deebo. You know what I'm saying? That's why I'm looking at Drake May. You were down. Your team still got you to deliver the goods. You were still through two picks, but at the end of the day, you were down 10 to 13 on the 25-yard line with 25 seconds and a timeout.

34:03James Harrison:You can kick a field goal, and you can go to overtime. And then we're, you know what I'm saying, the team, we're figuring it out. Let's make something happen. Don't lose it. So it's like with Drew Locke, as long as his coaches still continue to run the ball well, the defense continues to play at a high level. They didn't have all of their DBs. their best safety. My rook, number three, he wasn't even out there last game. So them dudes out there just making plays, communicating, there's no bust. Defense, they're out there balling. So as long as the team continues to play well, you're not asking your quarterback to do too much.

34:33James Harrison:So I think the earlier Sam Darnold gets back, the better because he's in his vibe. He's in his bag. He won the Super Bowl. I saw him beat the Rams making those passes. Drew Luck, if the coach can protect him, I think he might be able to make it happen. Warning, the following song has been rated dangerously catchy and may not be suitable for grown-ups. One, two, three, four. One, two, three, four. Knock, knock, knocking at the door. Knock, knock, knocking at the door. Five, six, who is it? Five, six, who is it? It's Cowie and Elliot. It's Cowie and Elliot. Lingo Kids, only suitable for kids. If it gets stuck in mom's head, that's not our problem.

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37:39James Harrison:Play within the offense, manage the game, and don't turn the ball over. If he can do that, I think he'll be fine. Those numbers aren't great, but the big thing he did was he did not turn the ball over. He had a good percentage of the throws that he made that they caught the ball. I think they'll be fine. A.J. Brown, he also went down. but I guess it's now confirmed to have a high ankle sprain and he's expected to miss four weeks bro Joe how much do you think this is going to handicap the Patriots I think it's going to handicap the Patriots a lot because with with Drake May I mean end of the day we got Collins and who is really who's the other receiver we got uh I can't think his name right now dude Hollins.

38:29James Harrison:It's Hollins. Hollins. Hollins. Romeo Dobbs. Romeo Dobbs. So that's, Romeo Dobbs, we're speaking about how he wasn't playing well. Hey, I might have cut me a catch out there, Joe. Help me help you. So you got to be able to catch the ball. Help me help you. So when he dropped the ball right there, when Drake made fun, he had a good one. The over route right to him. He turned his head before. I understand like everybody's not perfect, but God, right now your quarterback is struggling. We need one. So we can't just be having your quarterback. Your receivers got to help your quarterback out. So then I think with Hollins and with Dobbs, if A.J.

39:10James Harrison:Brown not out there, I thought the addition of him would be able to help Drake May. No matter what, end of the day, if there's man to man, you know you got you one over here that can go get something done. So not having him with the way that Drake May is looking, he needs to get back into that mental game where, boy, you better check down if it's not available. don't turn the ball over. Don't try to go out here and be creating nothing. If it's not there, don't go doing the most like still because you franchise quarterback, you hear that, but franchise quarterbacks don't turn the ball over. It doesn't take, you just got to manage the game.

39:40James Harrison:Just do, don't hurt your team. You know what I'm saying? And when you start hurting your squad, that's when it's like, you're trying to do too much. You got to do your part. If the line are not blocking, if they, but when, when things are open, hit it. You know what I'm saying? Like, don't put too much pressure on yourself, but you got to start making the right plays. and don't hurt your team. Yeah, I think it's going to handicap. I don't think it's going to hurt them as much as you think it'll hurt them. I think it's just going to come down to, even with them gone, they could have won that. Drake may just lost it for them.

40:12Like, that's just really what it came down to. But let's get over here and let's see. The Steelers, the Pittsburgh Steelers are playing the Atlanta Falcons at home, like I said, Joe. Yes, sir. And Joseph, I don't even know what. I don't want to know nothing else, but who you think going to win, Joe? That's it. Stillers. Duh. Man, Stillers going to win. Hey, that's a good thing. Hey, look, don't y 'all forget it. Y 'all want to get to this game. For y 'all latecomers, baby, make sure you like, subscribe, and follow. Follow us. We got tickets. Debo and Joe, myself, and Joe. And as soon as you do that, we and Joe, me and Joe, Joe and I will be personally picking the winners of two sets or two tickets.

41:09It's going to be four people going to the game. Joe will pick two. I'm going to pick two. We're going to notify you either on Debo and Joe, Joe, or myself. Okay? Yes. Now. Now, they are playing the Atlanta Falcons. And your guy, your guy Tua Tonga-Vailoa, I got his name right. I'm hitting this thing. Tua Tonga-Vailoa. Tua Tonga-Vailoa went down with an apparent oblique injury during practice and was out for the remainder of the day. Joe, look at this video. Got to be more careful. Yeah.

41:53James Harrison:Yep. Uh-huh. I'm going to take you down like that. And he's trying to... Yep. I'll leave you. Oh, yep. Joe. What is that, Joe? He had an oblique. That's that oblique? How you pulled up? That's that oblique. I had an oblique. How'd you do it? Throwing the football? No. Not throwing the heat. How'd you do it? I got hit. Oh, you got hit. I ain't seen nobody hitting, bro. I don't like what happened right there. Listen, listen, two had some back issues earlier in training camp. Okay. And he played, what was it? Two of the three games during preseason for Atlanta. So he got two of the three. Penix is still not ready.

42:37He working his way back from ACL tear. So the starting quarterback against the Steelers looks like it's going to be Cooper rush or it could be two. If he can play. Okay. Joe, what's going on with Tua? Because you know I got my theories.

42:55James Harrison:No, I need to hear you. I want to hear your theory before I say what I have to say. Listen. Go ahead. You already know. Let me hear you. And I have my theories. So, and I know what happened. Allegedly. I'm going to say allegedly because I don't really know. But I'm thinking if I was in the same position and I was him, not me, of course, if I was him. They was watching game tape. OK. And you get to that Thursday, Friday game tape and they start pressure. You know, you're showing pressures, res, all that. You know, you're showing all that. You know, you're showing all the good stuff. Hold on. I know where you're going.

43:40OK, OK. Go ahead. What happened was the Steelers, you know, when he played in Miami over there last year, that tape came up. And that man started having flashbacks. And that man said, hey, let me get up out of here. I'm pulling my back oblique everything, my ass everything. I'm pulling whatever I need to do before I get up. Not to go in there and be the starting quarterback. Before I get in here and they done named me the starting quarterback, I'm healthy. You understand? Like Atlanta, hey, they go put me out here. They go let them Pittsburgh Steelers put their hands on me again, Joe. I am a boy, Damon.

44:30Debo, you got it, Joe.

44:32James Harrison:See, Debo, that's actually hilarious. Because that's not what happened. What you think happened, Joe? Tua is going, it's just bad luck. It's bad luck, Debo. I don't think Tua wants to be hurt. I don't think that he likes that. I think that when he did that injury right there, that's like - When he did that injury, okay, go ahead. When he did that injury, keep talking. I think when he threw the ball, he might have really just, ah, like his oblique just was, ah, and then it might have really messed up. He might have torn it. I don't know. I'm not in his body. I'm not in his body. I just don't know with Tua now, with this happening, Debo, I'm telling you for real.

45:17James Harrison:If he is, you're talking about injury prone. Now what you're talking about, I was hoping that he could get out there. Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe. Injury prone is the thing that's like you do by yourself. He was getting popped with concussions left and right. Somebody else was helping him do that. He did all this by himself. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. For sure, for sure. So, no, injury prone is too when you're running around. Sometimes he's running around on his feet a little silly. Maybe he's trying to learn how to slide. That's a little self-inflicted. Maybe that was just from the concussions he forgot.

45:48So, stop it.

45:50James Harrison:That's C.D. Ball. Don't do that. Don't you tell my band. Real talk, though. It's for the Steelers, for us, for the Steelers, now who, long story, I'm looking for the best interest of us. I hope two is going to be successful because when I say us I don't want him to suffer this week. I want him to come back though. But look Cooper I won't Cooper Rush Cooper Rush Cooper Rush or I ain't worried about it dude. I just feel like Cooper Rush might have a better chance of having a little bit more success because of you know his well not with the Ravens that was a boob. Can I tell you something? Let me tell you something.

46:38James Harrison:We on let me tell you something if we worried about I ain't worried about it Tua Penix or what we need to do is tackle Bijan Robinson if we do that I'm not worried about that you got Kevin Stavansky over there he ain't gonna run the ball he know that's what's gonna help him Kevin Stavansky gonna realize he only he got Cooper Rush but he don't wanna be he don't wanna be and then Tua Tua hit his oblique and then my man Penix got the ACL You know what I'm saying? He don't want to beat you. All I'm telling you is this. We're going in there playing these Atlanta Falcons and going to spank them out the way because we have to stop.

47:13James Harrison:The main reason we'll win is because we stopped B. John Robinson. They got a tight end over there too now. They got Pitts. They do got Kyle Pitts. Now, if we put Tua in there, we eliminate him. If we put anybody in there, I'm trying to – D-Bo, I hear you. I hear you. But they got... I'm talking about the Atlantic Alcantins passing the ball. That's the last thing. They have Bijan Robinson. If he... We just need to make sure he... Bijan catches. Is Neftu going to play? Is Neftu going to play? Listen here. Neftu ain't got no contract. We got a couple of days to figure that out. I'm hoping... We got a couple of days.

47:59James Harrison:We got it. We got it. Less than 48 hours, Joe. We got... Yep. We're going to have some good news in 48 hours. We got less than 48 hours. Nephew ain't got no contract, brother. Listen here. I'm going to tell you this. I'm going to tell you what God loves. And that's the truth. Yeah, that is. If he go out there with no contract, that is the goofiest move in the world. And I ain't never known him to be a goofy person.

48:31Look here, speaking of Aaron Rodgers, he called the Packers head coach. Matt LaFueur, a clown, after saying Jordan Love was a better pre-snap quarterback than him. It wasn't as bad as it sounds, so listen to it. He's probably still mad I changed too many of his plays.

48:59big statement when you had a guy win back-to-back MVPs I guess I wasn't doing too much at the LOS Matt's a clown man he says some things from time to time that are funny that he's like maybe I shouldn't have said that he's backing up his quarterback I'm sure J-Lo is a real good line of scrimmage but come on man hey Joe Yo, I ain't going to lie to you, man. Yo. I kind of love this level of petty, you know what I'm saying? I think it could have been much, like, it could have been way worse. Like, you know, like, he could have went harder. Especially, that was like me back in the day. You know, when I was playing before how I am now, you know what I'm saying?

49:40I probably would have went way further than that. So, you could tell by Aaron's response, his voice. Like, it's a level of understanding that he has with LeFleur that he's going to say something that's not thought out of. You know what I'm saying? And because that is definitely one of the craziest statements that I've heard somebody say about Aaron Rodgers. What do you think?

50:03James Harrison:I think it's the same thing, Debo. Sometimes people forget that when, like Aaron Rodgers, he's been in the league for such a long time. He's had MVPs. Him and the coach have a different relationship. So, like, when he's saying that he's mad, I'm changing his plays, and then his coach is speaking on his quarterback. He's like, yeah, he has every right now to, like, speak for his quarterback. So there's a level of now where you're able to get these answers from people. Aaron Rodgers could have easily said, you know what I'm saying, nothing or just been chill. But now he's going to let you know kind of like he has a relationship with this dude.

50:35James Harrison:He would say that to back up his quarterback. But like I'm an MVP. This is how I really feel. Aaron can say how he feels about it and thinks it's like a petty relationship that when coach make those comments, he's like this. What do you guys really think? Like obviously he's going back his quarterback. He's good at the line. But I mean, I don't think nobody asked. I'm changing his plays. And precisely, does Jordan Love have a better pre-snap organization in recognition than Aaron Rodgers? I think he might have just put that out there by himself. You know, just trying to, like you said, trying to boost up his quarterback.

51:11James Harrison:Yeah, and Aaron Rodgers had every right to feel a certain type of way because if somebody says something that's putting their quarterback, which he should do as a coach, he's like, oh, yeah, this is my franchise guy. I'm pumping him up. and Aaron Rodgers being on a different team, hearing somebody talk about you, he's like this, and you feel like you're better than that person and that statement is false, then you feel like you can speak on it. So it's like, when you're looking at it, it's like, that's kind of what happens when you hear coaches say this, pumping up somebody else, Aaron Rodgers has every right to defend himself and the coach want to pump up his quarterback.

51:43Yeah, I ain't tripping on it, man. Look here, man. Let's go over here to your Cleveland Browns. Your Cleveland Browns play the Jacksonville Jaguars at 1 o 'clock, same time we do, on Sunday, on Sunday in Jacksonville, okay? Same time. Now, you know what? Just a simple question, Joe. Who do you think will win? Who you got winning, Joe? Who I got winning?

52:10James Harrison:You can't hear it. My mic knocked. The Browns.

52:21James Harrison:Can you hear me? Oh, now you're muted, Debo. Debo, now you're muted. Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. That's a good thing that you couldn't hear me because I said something real disrespectful, Joe. I said something real disrespectful. No, I didn't, Joe. What I said is that's a good thing that you, you know, you feel like y 'all gonna win, but I don't feel that same way. I don't think y 'all gonna win. Mom, are we there yet? Ten more minutes. Only ten minutes? Can you drive slower? What's up with them today? Lingo Kids. That app we downloaded last week? They love it. The games, this funny baby bot character.

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