Deebo & Joe - Part 1: Shedeur Closing In On Browns Starting Job? Knicks Parade CHAOS!

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4:41James Harrison:Welcome back to this episode of Debo and Joe. I'm your host, James Debo Harrison, and I'm here with my co-host, Joe Hayden. Please make sure you like, subscribe, and download where you get your show. Joe, how you doing today? I'm doing great, Brother Debo. I am doing amazing. On a little vacation, a little family reunion time with my friends, with my family, with my cousins, with my brothers. It's going good, man. I'm in Virginia Beach. Real nostalgic. That's why I used to go with my family back in the day when I was a kid. Every year we would come to Virginia Beach. So, yeah. Geeks. All right.

5:19James Harrison:That's good. That's good. Because I'm looking. I'm like, it looked like maybe you was, I didn't know if you was locked up or not. You had the back screen. I don't know what was going on. I was just making sure, you know what I'm saying? Because it looked a little, you know, it was just plain. Like, I didn't want to give away where I might be, where I could be. Yes, yes. And undisclosed. I'm just making sure because you gave us, you know, you told me. Somewhere in Virginia Beach. It's a big, long beach. Somewhere out here. Okay, okay. I mean, you good. It ain't like, you know, Mexico again. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

5:52James Harrison:I'm just saying, I'm just saying, Joe. Hey, you kept your ass on the turf this time. I did. That's good. That's good. That's good, Joe. Hey, bro, shout out to your fitted game, your snapback game. I don't know what it is, Bibo. I told you. Joe, I've been telling you, Joe, my hat game is impeccable. Listen here, Joe. I've been trying to tell you, man, listen. I ain't trying to wear the same hat for a while, Joe. You know what I'm saying? That's what I'm doing. You know what I'm saying? My hat game is what it is because that's where my money at. I can afford to get, you know, different hats. You know what I'm saying?

6:25James Harrison:$20 here,$30 here. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? $15 here, get it on sale. You know what I'm saying? That's where I'm at with it. I'm going to do my jerseys. Me and you, we're going to go. We're going to go jerseys. But look, at the same thing, I can get cheap jerseys,$20 jerseys. You know what I'm saying? Sometimes I thrift. Sometimes I Michelinettes. Where? Where? Drift. Where are you going to get$20? Joe, stop, Joe. You ain't walked into the ranch. You can find an old school champion thrift in there. a little Celtics, maybe a little, might be. Hey, Chad, do Joe shop at the thrift store?

6:58James Harrison:I thrift sometimes. Thrift sometimes. Hell no, you don't, Joe. You don't even know where a thrift store at. Is that Laker gear you wearing at the thrift store? This was not thrift. This one was not thrift. Oh. I did not say everything's thrift. I say some things can be thrift. Some can be. So you actually don't own nothing that's thrift. I do. I do. Just not everything. some things I bought from the regular store what things Joe? some jerseys some like button up pieces a pair of like couple like jeans some shorts what's the name of the store? what's the thrift store? it's called Thrift it's called Thrift where at?

7:39James Harrison:huh? yeah it's in exactly Joe chill out D but why you asking so many questions do you are you I'll bring you to I'll bring you there I'll bring you to yeah yeah you bring me there man look here man Nick's had their little beret but the police did not recognize your boy Tyler like we got the video check this out

8:07okay

8:08James Harrison:okay boom hold hold what are you doing did you jump the gate coach is coming in he's gone he's fine he's on the team he's on the squad ah no Joe did you did you know who he was because I ain't gonna lie to you See, that's the part I did not I did not And I felt bad Because I went and looked Because I'm not the craziest Knicks I'm not the craziest Knicks fan The guys that are out there The starting five You know what I'm saying Jordan Clarkson coming off the bench I know a couple of the players But you know how it is He didn't play too much And He didn't play at all He didn't play at all He played during the regular season With the Spurs He didn't play at all During the Spurs He didn't play at all during Spurs.

8:52James Harrison:So my thing is, I don't blame the cops too much because you don't recognize him. If you don't recognize, he looks more normal. He's 6 '2". Nah, Joe. Joe, this is where he messed up. I'm going to tell you where he messed up. You got to stay on the float. If they don't know, it's not that bad. You are not a face of that team. You ain't Broncos. You ain't cat. You can't be jumping out there by yourself. Like, play it back. Play it back. Look at the first two cops out here. First two cops. They got on them blue shirts. They look, they see him, they're like, who was that? I don't know. But I ain't about to grab him because the fans kind of make it like they know him.

9:37James Harrison:They daping him up. But you see when that white shirt came in? Hey, he said, can't no shit go down like this on my watch. Because he at least a lieutenant of better. You know what it was, Debo? I watched the video. I saw. his coach, the one with the white hat that was kind of jogging behind him a little bit and let the feds get in between, you got to stay right behind him. Like showing him, I'm his escort. You know what I'm saying? Like he's the player. He's the player. Soon as that coach that came and saved him and was tapping him like, no, no, no. He's good. He's good. Soon as you walking around there by yourself, if nobody, if they're looking like, hold on.

10:11James Harrison:Like you don't look like Cap. That don't look like Brunson. He's jogging around here. Like he's like a normal, normal dude walking around here. Look like some little kid done jumped the fence. He done jumped the fence. He's starting to act like he knows something. You know what I'm saying? Man, they never, what, 6 '1", 6 '2", something like that. Man, 6 '2". That's like me out there talking about, you know, that's like me out there talking about, hey, man, I'm on the squad. That's what I'm saying. So, you know, they protect him. They don't know who you are. So, I think if his coach that was behind him, the coach that's behind him, he's like, oh, yeah, let me give him his little time.

10:42James Harrison:Soon you give him his little space, he's getting hemmed up by the fence. to this because I don't want to, he's like, I don't want to get messed up. But when they, hey, that white shirt, I'm telling you, man, the white shirts, them boys like lieutenants or higher. They higher than, they, at least a lieutenant. No, man, I can't have this looking bad on me, man. I can't do look as bad on me. I just can't. But listen, you only got to remember, what is it, like 15, 17 faces, bro? Like, come on, bro. I'm going to tell you right now, when we, when we had our parade, yo, in 2000, 2005, we had a Super Bowl parade, right all right and i was i was i was um i was only on special teams right okay so we having our parade we just won the super bowl you know i'm saying it's 2005 super bowl we just won it we out there it's what cold it's february something like that bro i ain't get off the truck why i ain't get off the truck because ain't nobody know who the hell i was i wasn't about to be the first one out there running around jumping and had somebody go and snatch me up like you ain't on the team.

11:39James Harrison:They didn't know who the hell I was, okay? I stayed on the truck, okay? And you know what I did? After I was on the truck for about half the raid, then we started getting a little loose with it. We jumped into the crowd, did a little crowd surfing. You know what I'm saying? Hey, dude. By that time, do you need... I'm in the truck. We got TP with us, right? And so we jump into the crowd. You know, they push us back this way. I jump in. You know, they push us back this way. Whatever. Troy jump in. They start passing him. They take him. the crowd, bro. Bro, we got to jump off the truck and go get him, dude.

12:12James Harrison:Like, hey, bring him back this way. Oh, yeah. They wanted all that. They started passing him all the way out like they trying to pass him to the back of the streets. Oh, that's it. Yeah. Yeah, but listen, man. Tyler, man, you can't be jumping out there like that. Because everybody don't know. Everybody don't know. Yeah, everybody. Everybody don't know. Everybody don't know. And it's... But, hey, The second one, though, the second one, solo dolo, you know, I'm out there. Oh, Deebo. Yes. Here. There. You know what I'm saying? I'm everywhere. I'm sitting the trophy down. You know what I'm saying?

12:48James Harrison:I'm brunching out there. You know what I'm saying? I'm big body. You big body. You know what I'm saying? Everybody know exactly what it is. Deebo. Deebo. When you start getting the chance, then you can just walk right off of the joint. Everybody looking to security. The police are trying to dap you up. No question. No question. I ain't going to lie. I was living my life. I was feeling real good. Hi, it's Karen in Georgia from My Favorite Murder. We cruised around L.A. in the Hyundai Ioniq 5 and dove into the fascinating life of actress and inventor Hedy Lamarr. Want the full story? Take a listen.

13:19Hedy, she starts dating Howard Hughes, the aviation tycoon. Do you know a lot about him? I mean, I watch The Aviator, so I know everything Leonardo DiCaprio has allowed me to know about him. But incredible innovator. Right. She says he's a, quote, very strange man. But they do get along really well. Give us examples. I know. They do get along intellectually. And in fact, she helps him design a faster plane. She takes a look at what he's designed. It's got these square wings. And she's like, that doesn't make sense. And so she finds the fastest bird and the fastest fish and sketches out a drawing of like what the two would look like as a plane.

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16:50James Harrison:Deservedly so. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Let's go on over here to Cleveland, Joe. Come on. According to Jeremy Fowler, Shador Sanders has bridged the gap between him and Deshaun Watson. He said Shador has bridged the gap at least somewhat. He said, I still believe Deshaun Watson is in a good position, though. So according to The Athletic, Watson lacked consistency during OTAs. Watson seemed healthy and occasionally threw downfield with confidence, but he lacked consistency and too often threw in the traffic, though. Joe, with you hearing this and things, well, I guess you had said later on that you believe that Watson would end up starting.

17:47James Harrison:Do you still believe that Watson will end up starting, or do you think it would be Shador? I still think that Watson may end up starting. I want Shador to start. I think that Shador may end up winning out this job, but it's only reason why I say Deshaun Watson is because I think the owner wants him to play. Right now, I think it's a legitimate competition. And when you start hearing people saying like, oh, Deshaun Watson had the lead, I'm letting it play out. There's time. There's reps. You got to be consistently good for a long time through the OTAs. Then we got mini camp and then we're going to have training camp.

18:22James Harrison:everybody was expecting now Deshaun just to be have took the job just because he's making the bread I'm loving the fact that Shador is coming in balling doing what he has to do not talking he's just working and both of them are having a legitimate quarterback competition and I think it's going well I think that some people when you don't like some people don't want Shador to succeed so the ones that don't want Shador to succeed when you hear something good about Deshaun Watson you try to knock down Shador when you hear something good about Shador you try to knock down Deshaun. I'm just trying to be more level-headed.

18:55James Harrison:Good things are going to happen some days, bad things are going to happen some days, but it's the level of consistency. Who's doing it every single day, coming in here, being a pro, not wavering, not letting the good day get them too high, not letting the bad days get them too low. I need you to be here. I just need you to be not too high, not too low. Consistency. And that's going to take time. So I'm like it right now. Shador is, I've been thinking like, you have to play the game. You have to get out there and throw with the ones. You have to get out there and get reps to see who's the better player.

19:26James Harrison:So with 11 on 11, things like this are starting to really ramp up. So you're starting to see, okay, Shador, you're getting better. He's able to show the improvement from rookie season to year two. So that's the only thing I'm like, time is happening. And coach not being able to just say, oh yeah, Deshaun Watson is going to be the starting quarterback proves to me that Shador is doing exactly what I need him to do. Staying out of the way, showing improvement, showing that you can be the starting quarterback for the Cleveland Browns. And Ty Monk is seeing it. Oh, it's a legitimate QB competition.

19:57James Harrison:He's not talking about Dillon. He's not talking about Green. He's talking about Deshaun Watson and Shador Sanders. So now I'm good with that. Knowing that we got to go in training camp, he has to still prove himself. He still has to play good during training camp. Still has to look good during these preseason games. And I believe that he can do it. Deshaun, you know, you got a lot coming off those injuries. They're saying it's looking healthy. You're throwing sometimes in the coverage, but we got to see because sometimes they were saying, earlier, you were doing so great. And then they saying it wasn't consistent, but how were they, they didn't bring up the bad things back in the day.

20:28James Harrison:So it's always, I'd never let it get me too high or too low when they start talking about the quarterbacks because it's people they know, everybody wants to hear about it. So if you say something good about another one dude, everybody's like, Oh no. So, so what about this guy? You know what I'm saying? So I'm more chilling, loving the way coach is saying it's a legitimate competition. Both of these dudes, they have to continue to play well. And we'll see through training camp, who's going to be the starting quarterback. I think Deshaun was going to be the quarterback because of the money. You know what I'm saying?

20:55James Harrison:And just they got one more year left with the owner. But in my personal opinion, I would have went with Shador because what he did last year, now with the new coach, with the new receiving crew, they're saying that my boy Casey Concepcion and Boston are looking amazing. So that's just weapons for either Deshaun or, you know what I'm saying, Shador. So whoever is going to be our quarterback, I think our team, our offense, our receivers, are running our line is going to be better. So whoever plays better at this quarterback position, you're going to get your best foot forward. Deshaun, if you start and you go out there with that offense and y 'all aren't looking good, I think it's the weapons that we have.

21:31James Harrison:Now it's time to see what Shador can do. If you go out here and ball and play well, it's your job to lose. Whoever's a quarterback to get out there, you have to ball because I think we have the players around them to give you a legitimate chance to be good, to be successful. So show us. I understand what you're saying, but you're saying, you know, it's the owner that may want him to start because of the money. The owner gave up on him a long time ago and said that was the biggest waste of money he ever did. So I don't think he ran it back a little bit. I understand he ran it back, but I think the only reason he ran it back was in the hopes of that he could get something out of maybe trading him away and trying to recoup some of that money.

22:11James Harrison:I don't think it had anything to do with the actual belief in him. Now, maybe somewhere along the line when, you know, they got Monken in there and he realized, you know, how well, you know, he played in the system that Monken ran, then maybe he might have said, OK, yeah, it's a possibility. But I think it was more in the lines of, you know, trying to trying to save. And when it comes down to it, he has not separated himself. The first thing was, oh, he has the upper hand or he is the person in the lead. And now they're saying Sador is coming back. He is the one that is showing promise. And now he don't know who the starting quarterback is going to be because he needs to see what it looks like in live action when the bullets are flying.

22:55James Harrison:Because is he going to make the same decisions or are they going to be worse decisions? Like you've seen what Shador does in live action. You've had a chance to see that. You don't know what he's done in the last two years because he hasn't been on the field to show you. You're just seeing what he's doing in pads and, you know, in shorts and hats, you know, basically. So I think that it's I think that's the whole reason that the GM Barry is looking like, oh, you know what? It's a possibility. We want the gambler, the quarterback, you know, and let him get into the supplemental draft. And you know what?