Deebo & Joe - Part 1: Sorsby granted injunction + Joey Porter Jr. contract negotiations

24:47You know what I can do with that money? I just made my whole season ticket price back, plus another season. You can go and buy a whole other season. That's an investment. And hope they do the same thing next year.

25:00See, Joe, you ain't tripping, see, because you got that old money. You got that old NFL money, Joe. That's why you ain't tripping, Joe. Listen, they give me that. Listen, my mama could be going to the game. excited. She got everything together. She dressed to the nines, got a purse locked up under there, got a girlfriend with her and all. And they called me and said, hey, bro, $250 for them two tickets. Hey, mama. Hey, baby, let's look here. I got you going on a little vacation for a weekend over here, but you ain't going to this game. I'm sorry. No, we're going to the most fire watch party you ever Yes, ma 'am.

25:46Listen, I'm trying to tell you. Man, I'm joking. God is my witness, bro. I can't. Listen, I'm going to go ahead and slide her some game. I ain't going to tell her what it went for, though, because, you know, she going to want a little moment. For sure. That's what I'm saying. I'm going to say, mama, look here. You ain't going to this game. But what I'm going to do, I'm going to send you to Vegas. Senior Vegas for the weekend and I'm going to give you this money. You're going to have yourself a good time. You and your girlfriend. Y 'all have yourself a good time. Give a little bit of the profits and go ahead and sell.

26:21Okay. I'm with you. Yes, D-Bro, I understand. I'm just saying it's going to take a certain number. When you start talking about a quarter of a million dollars, then I'm with you. When I'm saying like 25 there, I'm like, you really want to be in the building? But think about it, Joe. It could be. It could be. It was what? whatever they were, they were selling them for over with their season ticket price, whether they let it go sooner than... I feel you. I hear you. I hear you. Nick's fan. If they didn't sell the tickets, I know they were sad. They lost out on a bag. Especially now. Especially now.

27:01No closeout. Man, with the possibility of the closeout, though, if they had won... Oh, my goodness, bro. Listen, bro. The price of the tickets would have been higher than giraffe pussy around now. I'm trying to tell you. Oh, wait. That's facts. Look here, man. Texas Tech's quarterback Brandon Sorby Sorby Sorby, okay. Has reportedly been granted an injunction to be requested by a judge in district court in Lublin, Texas. So, Lubbock, Lubbock County, Texas. Sorry, man. Sorby is now expected to be eligible for the 2026 college football season. The judge reasoning for granting the injunction to the Texas quarterback was.

27:53This court finds that sore. How you say that name? Sores? Sores B. will suffer a probable imminent and irreparable injury without the injunction because he will not be able to participate as a member of the texas texas university 2026 football team joe what do you have to say about that this is crazy and i say this debo just because as the one biggest thing for me as a football player and when we was playing was gambling is not something you can do it is not something you can do gambling is the one thing in the in the why is this even a question bro like why is it it shouldn't be a question at all that's why i'm saying it's literally in my eyes crazy from the perspective of me being a football player and the one thing, there's certain things you cannot do at your job that you cannot do, that you cannot do.

28:59It takes away everything of the legitimacy of the game, of how we play it and what it's all about. It is always about, like, the one thing when I got into the league and I would say they did a bunch of things wrong, but the one thing they harped on it, every single thing, we had these gambling meetings. Do not gamble. And one thing you knew, do not gamble. There is a zero game policy because, for one thing, you're playing a game that's like outside of it. I want to know when we're going into this game, we're playing the game just to play the game. That's just one thing. When you get the gambling involved in it, I know it's super huge with now the NFL having all these deals with DraftKings, with FanDuel, all these sponsorships.

29:44but there's a certain thing that's the rule that i knew like like like steroids it's over all of that was gambling that's one thing where that you like i it's it's so like people i would never talk about it because it seems like like not even wouldn't talk about it's just something that i was so against and i felt like everybody that i played with we just knew that the game is the game we're out here we're playing everybody has a job to do and the legitimacy of the game is one thing you're trying your best depending on if you're betting on your team to win lose unders overs because you know all that stuff forget all that like zero gambling policy that's one thing where that's just just gray there's no gray that's one thing that is white and it's black there's gambling on sports and now you're actually putting bets on your team on your actual team.

30:42So, like, the questions of now him being able to get cleared and being able to play. No, no, no, no, no. It's not a question, bro. He is clear. No, no, no, no. That's what I'm saying. Not the question. I'm saying him being cleared and being able to play makes the NCAA look crazy. Because now you talk about the laws, the judges that can go over your rulings. When you try to say, no, this dude is suspended indefinitely. now you could just go to a court and get a judge to say no no no he's in the ncaa now is you like with when we were talking about players not getting paid and all of that stuff there's certain things that okay there's certain things you could talk about now when gambling here's the big issue man the big issue is the ncaa does not allow gambling on college football games especially games you're playing in it's the what they call it the integrity violation okay you You cannot bet on college football games.

31:40And he was betting on games and making whatever the hell it was. OK, so right now, as soon as you made the bet, you're in Ellison. You know what the rules is. OK, so according to the reports, he admitted he had wagered over at least 90 K on pro and college sports over the past four years, including 40 bets on the indiana football team while he was a freshman on the team in 2022 you know what that says violation you're done that's it now according to them it's allegedly that it's over 9 000 bets that he placed through the course of that same time so this is not a one-time thing bro so like the judge ruling this he didn't say hey he's innocent of what he did no he's not saying he's innocent he's just saying you know what this is ethically wrong and um this is going to cause him irreparable harm because he won't be able to play football while this lawsuit is pursued is you know going through his process so what we're going to do is we're going to say or he's going to say hey it's cool he could do this um and then what they did is i guess they went and said that the court was persuaded by the evidence regarding his uh gambling addiction and uh his treatment and the argument that um you know him being ineligible he would suffer you know irrep yes that's what happens so what they did was they gave him a two-game suspension he could come back you dude this is the fucking problem sorry i saw this is the problem nobody wants to take accountability for their own actions okay this is your fault you knew what this was going into it so now what we do we go hey man you know what he has a problem you know well depending on who it is i guess or or however whoever you have in that position you know what he has a problem is this and that.

33:49And they want to stand on, you know what? It's tough, you know, mental this and all this other stuff. This is where people get stuff broke down. Like, I'm a, I go sideways left to my comparison. So, he has a addiction to gambling, right? Okay, well, you need to go ahead and get that shit fixed and get it right. But, since it's a so-called addiction, mental issue, whatever it may be, then he's not responsible for it and we're going to tap you on it. Listen, listen, I'm going to go super extreme so y 'all can understand this. You know what a serial killer is? A person that got an addiction to killing people, but y 'all don't slap them on the wrist.

34:30Yeah, I go way left and now it's under. No, that's people dying. It's the same thing. It's the integrity. You're going to kill the sport. You're going to kill the opportunity for people to be able to go out there and do all that and especially now when we got people that believe it's a fucking script. Yeah. Now, if they're going to appeal the NCAA, they're going to appeal. Guess who they're appealing to? They're appealing to four judges over there that actually graduated from, guess where? Texas Tech University. They're all four grads. So NCAA appealing, that's who the higher court they got to go to.

35:13What you think they going to do? what you think they gonna do joe they're gonna say you know what man we'll uphold this thing for our boy man and then right here the majority of the big 10 or the big sorry the majority of the big 12 teams are considering boycotting their games against texas tech next season due to the ruling like they got people who are talking about this board members that have also mentioned to reject the uh the raiders from the league to reject them from the league dude Like, I guess the only current holdout on that is BYU. According to, who is it? Ross Dillinger. He, or yeah, it's a he, I'm hoping to see.

35:57I should be right. Athletic officials from Nebraska and Georgia sent department-wide memos to, well, today, instructing coaches and sport deputies not to schedule Texas Tech. if games are already scheduled, the school may cancel the matchup. Actually, you had yesterday the Big Ten, speaking of the Big Ten, the AD from Nebraska, Troy Danny, informed his staff yesterday that they are not allowed to schedule Texas Tech. At least somebody's standing for something. If you don't stand for something, you're going to fall for anything. Good job over there, Troy Danny. Somebody's doing something, saying something.

36:38So now they're like, you know what? if you go let them play we're not even going to play texas tech if that's what y 'all want to rule on when y 'all already know what it is because y 'all want to play a favoritism over there what is that in lubbock county lubbock county over there with your your texas tech uh fan crew and all that other shit then listen if that's what y 'all want to do ain't nobody gonna play texas Now how it look for you. Debo, it's all bad. It's all bad. And like you said, too, gambling. He's admitted to 9 ,000 times. He admitted to 40 on a school he played with. 40 on a school that he played with.

37:22This is what I'm saying. This is a zero tolerance thing. It's like basically, what are we talking about? And like everybody, you can't stand up for you. Like, you're responsible for your own actions. Like, you can go get help, you know what I'm saying? But you're not going to be able to play in college football. So, like, if somebody has an addiction, like, just you can't be in the presence of the college football system. You want to bring this dude and let him into the league. Huh? Ain't nobody, listen, don't, ain't nobody. I'm not picking this up. I'm not even taking a chance on scratching the surface on this.

38:00It's no time. to play with that especially now debo you know people are thinking oh rigged all that stuff and and you played i played we know you we are out there for the trying our best the nfl is not for long especially when you get to that level and now and just call just sports in general the dudes are out there fighting trying to get to the next level trying to be the best that we can be and that's literally the mindset that we go out there with when we have people that are legitimately gambling on the games and this is the thing like it just makes it off and it's wrong in every way and that's why hey it's ryan seacrest for jewel osco ready to save it's time for cyber deals kick off summer with fresh savings that brighten the season you don't want to miss these exclusive week-long digital offers on your favorite products that are only available when you shop online Save on eligible items from Jack Links, Celsius, Chobani, International Delight, and Too Good.

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43:09this buddy like like if you allow this to happen it's the thing what they call it it set precedence now every player that done ever gambled or had a or or gets into an issue like this all they gonna do is point back to this right here listen you're gonna cause me harm because i didn't follow the rules that said if i gambled my ass was up out of here so you can't cause me harm i won't be able to repair from it you knew what the hell the rules was don't break the rule bro like everybody know it's a death sentence yes brother there's certain things that you cannot do and there's certain things that other people can do and if you want to do a job or a do it do a service there's certain things you can't do when you're in it and if you do it you get fired and you can't come back that's that's my bad you got to go now i'm sorry but like dude don't feel bad for you you gotta go do something else no you gotta go do something else listen you can go work somewhere else.

44:07You ain't even going to jail for this, bro. I know. You just can't play football anymore. You can go work a regular nine to five. What's your degree? You've been in school eight years. You got to have something. Do you think people like that? I don't know how long you've been in school. I'm exaggerating. With everybody, people... You go to school to get an education, right? Get your education. You still have it. Go ahead. You ain't going to play football nowhere for nobody. You're done. Go ahead. You messed that up. Yeah. People mess up and they get fired and have to move on. Now they're talking about he going to be drafted.

44:52Who go draft him? Who? What? Bruh. Bruh. You go draft, I would cut off my GM's hand. And that's a quarterback? You're a quarterback? No. Oh, you had a bad game? No, he put about$150 ,000. Man, on the under. Right. Come on, man. Not your quarterback. You ain't shaving the hell out of it. Not trying to. No. According to the virus line, whatever you are, but not. You're my quarterback. You talk about how clean cut these dudes want their quarterbacks to be and making sure that they do everything right. Got to be the smartest person on the field. Clean slate. Don't do no off-the-field issues. I think this is an off-the-field issue.

45:37Dude, it don't make no sense, bro. I don't know what they got going on over there in Lubbock County, Texas. And what they – they need to check the – like, they need to be checked. I don't know how you – who checks the judges? Like, who checks to make sure ain't some big-time somebody skinning them and lighting their pockets up, making their pockets heavy or something? People – everybody know everybody. You would think like the big time coaches and the judges and they all in cahoots. Because that's crazy. How do you bring a player that's telling you, admit it, obviously if he has the... Thank you.

46:15That's his punishment of him missing offseason workouts? He got two games. That's it. He back in there. He done made it over 90K and he got two games and he back in there. Stop it, man. If the NCAA can't get this stopped, every, every AD in college football should do what in nebraska's ad is doing and do not play the whole university of texas tech if that's what you're going to do in any sport period you want to you want to you want to go ahead and do all this and try and make it better for this boy that obviously knew the rules continued to do it it wasn't a one-time thing you know what for years four years bro stop playing with me man look here go ahead and go ahead and do that y 'all want to do that everybody gonna suffer listen texas tech if you're a texas tech and then y 'all y 'all y 'all y 'all better y 'all might want to find a way to get up out of there right now for the for for old sword sword bees get y 'all and this judges get y 'all get y 'all hemmed up like students y 'all need to go ahead and figure out what's going on man y 'all better mix listen big tendernity already started nc double a listen bro if i'm a player on that squad, Joe?

47:29Listen. He ain't going to... Listen. He ain't playing with me. You ain't about to have me sitting up here looking like Dodo. You going to mess with this? Nah. Listen. We going to go ahead and we going to figure out how you have to do whatever you got to do to get up out of the way, man. Whether it's by hook or by crook. You know what I'm saying? You got all these mental issues and all this and that. You got a bad gambling addiction. What's the hell going to stop you from doing it again and again and again? You four years deep. What is he talking about? Get him up out of there. Get him up out of there.

48:14For football right now, I know people need help. We can go get him work for the addiction. I'm saying that for sure. You lose the gift. You lose football. You can't do football. I'm all for you going to go get the help. Ain't they still got Pete Rose up out of there? One of the coders that do it in the game Still ain't got him up out of there My man Josh Gordon couldn't play in the NFL Because he was in this program For smoking weed He couldn't play for smoking weed The same thing they do nothing to right now They tapped you on the wrist for now Two on the yards Come on man You gambling? You're gambling?

48:51On your own team? And that's the crazy thing They didn't even say he was gambling for them to win. I heard some of the bets. Some of the bets. He knew what the calls were going to be. So he knew they were going to run. They knew they were going to call a lot of runs in the play system in the first 15. So he would bet the under. Bruh. On your own spot, you bet the under because you know y 'all going to run the ball. Crazy work. Yeah. He out of control, bruh. He out of control. Listen, man. Let's go over here to the Steelers. So they say despite all their spending, the Steelers still have one more big deal to do, and that is Joey Porter Jr.

49:35Sources say Joey Porter Jr. and the Steelers are not close to a big extension. Joe, what are your thoughts on this? Are you concerned? Are you not concerned? Where you at? Where you at with this? That peasy little nephew ain't got signed yet. I'm not concerned because normally it's going to be right before training camp. So they got, they got, they got, they still got some time. You know what I'm saying? When it's still assigning deals. And I feel like with this, with this deal, it's going to, it's going to be a little bit, it's going to be both of them might have to give. I feel like both of them have to maybe give a little bit.

50:13It's in, it's in the situation where obviously they want to sign Joey Pointer for a long-term deal. They know what they got to him. They know he's going to be a baller, stole him in the second round. He could have easily been a first-round pick. He's been doing nothing but great things, improving every single year. Like, Hansy, we asked him about the calls. Boom, didn't get called for too many holding his passing appearances. You know what I'm saying? So he's been locking down, keeping defenders out of the end zone. You know what I'm saying? Making plays. So he's been doing his job. He expects, when you're looking at numbers, him, his agent, they're looking at what's going on, what's the market look like.

50:4931 is the highest-paid corner, Trent McDuffie, And then we got like Stingley making 30. And then we have J.C. Horn making around$25 million a year. So we're looking at between Joey Porter Jr. trying to figure out, man, am I trying to reset the market? I'm the new hot corner coming in. So I think his agents might be around the 31 trying to reset it, either getting right to the top market or the Steelers more around the 20, the 25, the 25, 24, 25 mark. to where, boom, you're getting a great deal. You're happy, but we're not having to reset the market. At the end of the day, picks, he hasn't had too many picks, and he hasn't been to the Pro Bowl yet.

51:29So understandably, you're going to be great. So we're not resetting the market with all you went Pro Bowl three years in a row, some all pros. Right now we have the no Pro Bowls, but at the end of the day, I'm not trying to knock. So I'm just giving the point perspective from the Steelers. I'm not seeing the reset the market numbers to where you've rusted everything out. But I can see, obviously, right now, around the$25 million a year mark. So around, kind of the same deal as Nick Herbert got, around the$400 million to where that's$25 million a year. I think that's kind of where the Steelers are, where Porter's around the$30 million a year, you know what I'm saying, four years for$120 million.

52:07So I think they're going to have to kind of, somebody's going to give a little, take a little, something like that. So I think it's just, when they say super far away, I'm not thinking it's astronomical. I'm thinking it's somewhere in that number. So I'm thinking if we can get a front loaded, get a sign-up on this right, try to average just some way to make it look good, I think everybody can be happy in the situation. But I don't think it's nothing too crazy because I know Joey Porter Jr. wants to be here. He's a baller. So from what he's playing, and it's more onto potential, what he's going to keep giving you.

52:35He's a young player that got drafted in the second round. And this first deal is what he's done for you and what you're expecting him to continue to do. So I think it's going to be a little bit of both there. Yeah, I agree with you. I see the deal getting done definitely before training camp. And again, I'm thinking it may be a thing where agents want to reset the market. I mean, it could possibly be something like that. So I can understand or believe that they're not close. Hell, I can understand and believe they're not close just because of how I know they negotiated when I negotiated. Like we first - Man, what?

53:13The numbers don't be close, do they, Joe? The first ones don't be close until it somehow feel like it's close. The numbers don't be close, bro. I'm like, dang, we ain't never going to get there. Hey, bro, bro, listen, listen. I'm like, how? I'm telling my agent, bro. Where that money come from? I'm like, what? They said who? Hey, hey, bro. This is what I said. Man, tell them to kiss my black ass. What? That's what I was saying. I'm like, what? Yeah. Hold up. Like, I'm saying, make sure you tell them these words right here. He said, no, no, no, James. Calm down, man. Calm down. This is the way negotiations work.

53:53You know, I ain't never went through a negotiation at that point. You know, that was significant, you know, money. So I'm like, what? Oh, I'm waiting. You're waiting. You're waiting for that first offer like this. Oh, yeah. That first offer. We going to be, you know, I'm saying a couple hundred thousand off. Dang, I know. I know they know it's me. You know what I'm saying? I said, oh, hell no. Y 'all done nothing done. You know what I'm saying? Oh, no. Hell no. You know what I'm saying? But like I said, I see it getting done. I'm with you in that range. I see it more of maybe a three-year extension that adds to that fourth year.

54:28And I'm with you. I think for them to get any or the Steelers to get any type of break from that break in the market number, I think they're going to have to like basically guarantee the full contract. I think if they went in there with something that, you know, was a three-year extension that turned into like a, you know, like maybe a four-year, you know, say 105 to 110, I think he takes that. I think, you know what I'm saying? And like you said, you said a four-year, what was it, 120, 130 or something? Yeah. I think you get to that what ends up being like a four-year guarantee, full guarantee, 105.

55:10Like, I'm going to jump on that. 105, 110, I got to jump on that. And then you got a chance to even get back because he only, what, 25, 26, something like that. So, yeah. I mean, but. Yeah, I think that's what we're saying with the – just when you get to that first deal, trying to figure out, all right, agents, obviously, seeing what's going on, trying to get him the best deal possible, trying to get him that highest average per year. And then Joey Porter Jr. is to, boom, you're with the Steelers. You're in a great, comfortable situation. So is it worth trying to reset, being happy where you are?

55:43And both of y 'all, we can work this number to make both people happy. So I'm hearing what you're saying, too. When he has that one year left, adding a three-year, you know what I'm saying, for that 30, that could make it a four-year for 120 and then kind of guaranteeing some stuff and figuring out to make him happy. They're really just dead set on, you know, trying to set the market. I mean, I don't know if you get to see it, but you go ahead and you backdoor it and throw on another, you know, 35, 40 at the end for the last year, but they ain't going to guarantee that. I mean, they'll set the market.

56:16You're average higher than what is there. But, you know, what's fully guaranteed is what, you know, what I want to be looking for. And that'd give him what he'd be the most fully guaranteed then if it was 100, what, 105, 110, something like that. just trying to get that most I feel you just trying to get the most average I mean most guaranteed money for sure and then just being where you that's going to be good you can be able to get to the market again being able to get to that bag while you're making great money yeah for sure or like you said five year guarantee 110 make it 140 150 150 million something like that ooh but you guarantee 110 you know you know how that back end go you never know You ain't gonna never see that last year.

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