Deebo & Joe - Part 1: Steelers Growing Impatient with Aaron Rodgers? + Casey Hampton joins

27:57And to take anything less, I think it would be handicapping himself. It wouldn't be betting on himself. If he takes less, then he's going to be stuck doing the same thing he's been doing, which is being three. You know, everybody want to talk. Everybody want to start, rather. So it's going to come down to what they feel like, the Steelers, they feel like is more helpful to the team. So the production of what, you know, Herbic will get you compared to the production of what Alex gets you. And then the pay of what you would have to pay, Herbert, and what you could get in a trade for Highsmith because I just don't see anybody being able to take a 42 in both 26 and 27 and what I think TJ is already what 31, 32 right now so

29:14that's where I don't know that's where I see it at but I could be wrong I don't know I'm hoping they can find a way

29:32that was some big numbers you got 20 there they're gonna have to give him at least I would think 16 to 20 at least for him to consider it

29:59I mean, it's definitely something you would like to get done, so you ain't got to worry about it later on down the line. But as the agent said, I see my client as a top five, not in the top five percent, not in a top five. One, two, three, four, five. at them top five. What is

30:28Cleveland?

30:35What's his name? Joe's homeboy. Y 'all know who I'm talking about. Miles Garrett. That's it. Miles Garrett. So what are you making? Like 45, something like that? Like 42, 40? he making something 40 something million dollars oh the dude in Houston he just made like what was it 40 something 41 42 like you're talking about minimum now it's looking like 30 he talking about 30 top 5 I mean I'm he ain't gonna get it I'm just saying but he's just letting them know he's just letting them know where he's at where his mind is at and where these numbers are going to start at without having to get upset and say my client is leaving, he doesn't want to be here.

31:32No, of course he wants to be there. Everybody wants to spend their whole career as a stealer. Some people get to do it, some people don't. Most of them don't. But for him to go and put it out there nicely, that's a nice negotiation tactic letting them know like why we haven't really got any further in these negotiations on getting the extended deal for my client. Y 'all not in the right ballpark for what it needs to be. I mean all you gotta do is hell when it's time and you feel like you need to get a little something. Hell Cam did it last year. Like, yo, I need a little something more. I feel like I got an outplay, what it is y 'all giving me, what I'm about to get paid right now.

32:20And right now, he ain't had a big deal yet. This is going to be his first time getting a big deal. Unrestricted. And you know, like, you could easily start on at least half, if not more, of these other squads because you sitting behind TJ and Highsmith.

32:44and that's he went a long road I think as a third round drive choice to now you about to be sitting up there starting for the Pittsburgh Steelers eventually hopefully but in that process to get there somebody gotta go because the money ain't gonna money ain't going to be spread around enough to be able to pay for everything. And hell, wasn't we already the highest paid defense last year? And we didn't lose much of anything, did we? But look here. I'm seeing somebody that is on my line right here. And this is what I want to do for y 'all to Today, ladies and gentlemen, we have a former two-time first team, all Big 12.

33:53First team, All-American in the 99. In 2000, he was the Big 12 defensive player of the year, along with a consensus All-American drafted in the first round 2001 by the Pittsburgh Steelers. But then go on to be a five-time Pro Bowler, two-time Super Bowl champion, inducted into the Western Pennsylvania Hall of Fame in 2018, 2020 named to the Steelers all-time team in 2020, inducted into the Steelers Hall of Honor and should be inducted into the NFL Football Hall of Fame, the coldest nose tackle to ever play the game. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Casey Bixnack Hampton to the show. Brother, thank you for coming on.

34:51It's an honor to have you and a pleasure. Hey, man, look here. I'm going to start calling you Bebo Harvey. That's how you bring me out there. You know what I'm saying? That's how you bring your boy out, man. Show your boy some love. Hey, baby, I'm trying. I'm trying to help, man. Thank you for coming on, baby. Appreciate you. Where you at? You off there in Galveston, baby? Man, I'm at the crib, man. You know, I'm in between Galveston and Houston. You know, you can't really just live at the crib. Too close. Yeah, man. So I go out there all the time, but I'm in between Houston and Galveston. You know what I mean?

35:29Tucked off in the cut. You know what I mean? Okay. What you got behind you right there, bro? What's that art? Hey, man, that's old Pac and Biggie, man. That's old Pac and Biggie. You know Coach back art way back in the day, baby. I got a decent collection, you know what I'm saying? Coach Mitch. I got a few pieces. That's one of my little originals, man. You know what I mean? I got a few little little old, little old. That look nice. That look nice, bro. That look real nice, bro. Which house that in? Houston or Galveston, which one? I want to come see you, one of them. Whichever one that went in.

36:07Just come to Texas, baby. I'm going to have a coffee. Okay, okay. Listen, man. You ain't said nothing but a thing, brother. You ain't said nothing but a thing. Hey, listen. What do you... I want to jump into a little bit of stillness right now. You've known Omar as long as I've known Omar. Actually, you've been known him a year longer than me because you got there a year before me. um what what what what do you think of the job he has done so far um meaning the last what two years last this year this year let's let's let he he got the handles now this year with the draft i mean i i think that um in a draft he got the need positions right I think we need to get, we need to go line.

36:57We need receiver help. I think that, I think we definitely address that. My only deal is with a first round pick and I don't watch film, you know what I mean? But I know that football being played for just five years, you know what I mean? I know that's a project, you know what I mean? And just with me, I like with my first round pick, man, I want that guy to be a guy. He can definitely develop into a guy, no doubt about it. You know what I mean? He has all the intangibles. But I think it's going to be a work to see how he develops and kind of see how he's going to be. But I think as a whole, man, he did a pretty good job, man.

37:36He got our need positions. And as you know, Debo, man, it all boils down to how you develop the guys. You never know what nobody's going to be until it happens. Right. So you got to have the coaches that are in those positions that could actually develop the talent that you picked up. You know what I'm saying? I got lucky. You got lucky. You had Coach Mitch. I had Coach Butts. We both had Coach LeBeau. You know, it was a very fortunate and blessed opportunities that we fell into. You know, you just got there in the first round. I got there just as a, you know, a tag along, you know, from something else.

38:18You know what I'm saying? bruh so you came out of texas right as i talked about your accolades through that through that process although that that 99 2000 at uh at what point do were you like imagine an olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged it's the enhanced games some call it grotesque others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

39:06The story I've told myself about love or relationships can then shape my behavior and that can lead me to sabotage the possibility of connection. This Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast Deeply Well with Debbie Brown and explore the journey of healing, self-discovery, and returning to yourself. We explore higher consciousness, emotional well-being, and the practices that help you find clarity, peace, and self-mastery in a world that can feel overwhelming. The world is becoming lonelier. We're not becoming more social and connected. We're becoming more individualized, but we actually need people in connection.

39:49If you've been searching for a soft place to land while doing the work to become whole, this podcast is for you. To hear more, listen to Deeply Well with Debbie Brown from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If you're watching the latest season of the Real Housewives of Atlanta, You already know, there's a lot to break down. Norsha accusing Kelly of sleeping with a merry man. They holding K. Michelle back from fighting Drew. Pinky has financial issues. I like the bougie style of Housewives show. I think it looks like it's going to be interesting.

40:25On the podcast, Reality with the King, I, Carlos King, recap the biggest moments from your favorite reality shows, including the Real Housewives franchise, the drama, the alliances, and the tea everybody's talking about. As an executive producer in reality television, I'm not just watching it. I understand the game. As somebody who creates shows, I'll even say this. At the end of the day, when people are at home, they want entertainment. To hear this and more, listen to Reality with the King on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jared O'Donnell. You might know me as that loud guy who yells out, Help!

41:06On the internet! Help! Somebody! Please! But there's so much more to me than that. I'm an actor, I'm a comedian, and recently I've become quite the helper myself. And on my new podcast, Hope from a Hypocrite, I'll be changing lives. Helping people in need with my sage advice and thoughtful solutions. Psych! I'm a comedian! I'm not qualified to give good advice! Join me and my comedian friends as we riff, rant, and recommend some of the most legally dubious advice known to man. If I'm calling you, even if you're on your phone, let it ring twice. One ring is too scary. Cream of chicken soup. Hey, cream.

41:46Cream of chicken soup. This is Help from a Hypocrite, the worst advice from the dumbest people you know. Listen to Help from a Hypocrite as part of the Mike Cultura Podcast Network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. American soccer is about to explode. The World Cup is coming. Ramos sending on the Army. Score at the chip. Score!

42:15USA! I'm Ty Bramos. I'm Tom Boat. On our podcast, Inside American Soccer, you'll get the real storylines. I'm not worried about Pulisic. I'm not worried about Balogun. I'm not worried about McKinney. My only concern is what happens in the back. The biggest decisions. You're going to look at stats and numbers. he has no shot at making this World Cup team. And the truth about the U.S. national team. It wouldn't be a huge surprise if our team ends up in the quarterfinals or potentially a great run into the semifinals. The World Cup is almost here. Experience it all with us. USA! USA! USA! Listen to Inside American Soccer with Tom Bogart and Tab Ramos on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

43:03I'm that dude. It ain't nothing they can do to stop me. I'm going first run. Debo, man, not to sound like arrogant or nothing, man. You can ask my boys, man. Like, even when I went to college, man, I think coming from where I come from, we have so many guys that played in the NFL. Like, you can just look it up. I mean, it's probably 30-something guys, some crazy number. So, if I was in school, like, even in, like, junior high and things like that, we had six, seven guys in the NFL at one time. so so most well most people see that as a dream or like they they it's out of it's out of reach i've always seen that within reach because it's always been around me you know i mean i growing up like being in high school like you know a lot of people say you know that kid gonna be good he going to nfl one day but where i'm from in galveston they really see you know what i'm saying And so they had like back when I was like in high school.

44:01So when I got to college, I'll never forget, man. When I knew I was going to be okay, we had a guard, Dan Neal. He was all American. You know what I mean? And he had them vice grips. Oh, I know them vice grips. He had them vice grips. And I remember, man, my freshman year, we started doing one-on-ones and things like that, man. And I got up in there and I worked them. and I got up there, I worked with him and he was like, hey man, bring that back. Bring him back over here. I got him again and I went back and I was like, hey man, I might be on a schedule or something. That's the best I got. He was a beast now.

44:40I ain't saying I just whooped him every day, but I just knew then that I might have had a little something and I was going to get up. I was telling my boy, Cedric Woodard, we came in together and he always tell his story, man. When I went to the University of Texas, he was like, I'm just happy to be here at Texas. and I was saying that I'm going to go first round out of Texas. He didn't – that wasn't no reality to him. You know what I'm saying? But I was really feeling that way back then. You know what I'm saying? And I know a lot of kids say that, but I really felt that way. Okay. Okay, mindset.

45:11It's the whole mentality of where you at, everybody. Like, yo, this is what we do. If you don't do it, then you ain't setting up to the standard that it's supposed to be. Yeah, man. I think it's different down there. That was my problem, man. You got to come down there. We got a lot of big names, crazy names. We had some guys go first round things like that. But, you know, we had a lot of guys go. You know what I'm saying? It's a real thing. It was a real thing down there growing up when I was growing up down there. Okay. Is it true that you actually led the team in tackles as a defensive lineman, bro?

45:45For my last two years in Texas. In tackles? My last two years in tackles, no doubt. Hold up. For the whole team. For the whole team, man. Steve-O, man, I mean, luckily. Bro, what was your linebackers doing? Man, let me, first of all, RIP to my D-line coach. He just passed away. I just went to his funeral this past weekend by one of my best D-line coaches ever. What's crazy is my D-line coach in college and Coach Mitch, they coached together in the USFL. Shut up. They budged. Crazy, ain't it? Shut up, bro. They coached together. What was his name? Mike Tolley. Coach Tolley. That's my guy, man. You know what I mean?

46:27He came from LSU, came to Texas with Mack Brown. And that was my coach, man. He taught me the most. I actually had 3D line coaches at Texas. I had him my last three years. But it was night and day. He taught me everything. You know what I'm saying? Oh, yeah. But anyway, man, I was lucky to have a great coach. But Coach Bull Reese, my defensive coordinator, he passed away as well. But his whole thing was the linebackers on scholarship, too. Go get the ball. It wasn't no holding nobody off. You know what I'm saying? Oh, hell no. Hell no. You know what I mean? Hey, man, the linebackers on scholarships.

47:06Hey, man, I was like number one in tackles. My boy Sean Rodgers, big baby, he was like three or four in tackles. Man, we was going to get it. You know what I mean? Our linebackers, hey, man, they was. Y 'all just left them boys out the dry? and they have but they doubling us though we we beating the double like you you thinking they just let me go i'm beating the double man like i don't i don't know what the boys doing back there man i don't know but i know i was getting to that ball man you know what i'm saying right when you have a coordinator that say the linebackers on scholarship too and he coached the linebackers wow so either one or two things man your boy but you got to think who who my um We got me and Sean Rogers up there at defense.

47:50No question. Nobody can block it. Like, you know what I'm saying? They can't block it. Oh, yeah, Big Baby for sure. They let their big dogs eat. Man, how y 'all get Big Baby and Big Snack? How y 'all get them names, bro? Big Baby, man, he just, he got his naturally. Because he just was the biggest baby at every level when, you know what I'm saying, in college, man. He just crying about everything. What are you crying about? What are you crying about? Any and everything, man. Everybody against him. There's always something with him, man. That's just him, but that's the thing that makes him tick.

48:32Because everything's against him. He's always whining about something, but he's going to do something about it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's what makes him tick. He's just a big-ass baby. And I don't even think a player named him that. I think maybe one of our homegirls in college named him that. You know what I'm saying? That's how much of a big baby. You know, the big snack thing for me, man, you know, Kersky messed over me. Kersky messed you over me. Gave me the fake name, man. He gave me the fake big snack name. They came around asking who got the craziest nickname on the team. And Kersky, I guess he thought he was being funny.

49:11I wasn't around or nothing. He going to tell the media. they call me Big Snack because I'm always eating. I'm always snacking in the media. Chewing. Whatever. They come to... I'm at lunch. I'm coming out of lunch and all the media run up to me. Snack, snack. Big snack. Big snack. What the hell is going on? Kersky said that your nickname is Big Snack. I said, man, come on, man. I really did deny it or say it was true, but after that, it was a rap holder, man. They ran with it, man. I was snacked from being old. You can't deny a name that's given to you. That's like trying to make your own name.

49:50It don't stick. You can't make your own name stick. And you can't deny a name that's given to you either, baby. You got to take the giving to name, man. When you make your own name, that's kind of weird. When you do your own name, that's kind of weird. That's weird. Yeah, like they call me. Who called you what? You just made that up. I ain't never heard them call you that. Bro, I done had, what, three, four names. I done had, like, I was two-day vet. Oh, yeah. Two-day vet off the muscle, B-Bow. Hey. Hey, man. I'm like, this dude here, man. Like, this dude, he can't tell him nothing. He just, you just like, whatever, dude.

50:35Like, I think that come from your mama, though. I know that you got that on. No, no. That was a defense mechanism, dude. I didn't want nobody to know I didn't know what the hell I was doing. So instead of asking for help, I'm like, yeah, all right, well, whatever. Fuck you. I know what's going to happen. So you picked that up from Kendra? No, I already had that in me, dude. That was like, I didn't, like, for me, and that's probably why I did it so damn bad in school. Asking for help was weakness. You know, if I needed help, it was like weakness. You know what I'm saying? I'm asking for help. I can't do this myself.

51:09Why am I asking? You know what I'm saying? It felt like weakness to me. So not with your boys. Oh, hell no. You better come to me and ask for help. None of the stuff that I learned growing up, bro, is taught to my kids, man. I don't do none of that, man. I tell my kids I love them daily. My kids say they love me. The last thing I say to my kids is I love you more. I'm very expressive about how I feel about them. I let them know that because, you know, when I grew up, my mom and dad didn't say it. You know, I had I had one time where, you know, I'm telling my dad, I'm listening to a dude. He's talking and he's talking to his parents and he's like, yeah, you know, love you.

51:53I'm hearing McCray. That was his name, bro. And I'm like, yo, that's cool. I'm like, I'm gonna try that. So my dad go. He call. I talk to him. But we'll get off before we go. All right, dad. Love you. Get off the phone. Boom. As soon as I hang the phone up, two minutes later, my mom called him. I'm like, yo, what's up? You good? Like, what you mean you good? Yeah, I'm good. Why? Well, your daddy told me to talk to you. Okay, yeah. You good? I'm like, yeah, I'm good. Why? He said, you said, you know, you love me. Like I was, you know, going to sign somebody off or I was going to kill myself. Like something was going, like when you said I love you, like, hey, that's it.

52:29Hey, I'm going to do something. Something got to get done. I love you. But just know I love you. I got to go do this, though, you know. So that was something I didn't want my kids do. And, you know, I'm real expressive, you know, about that. I don't hold nothing back. And if you need help with anything like that's my big thing is I'm trying to fix everything. But I don't you know, I don't want you to struggle with anything. And I think that might be a little bit to my to their detriment. You know, at some point in time, you know, I had to let go. let him be a little hard but I'm very like I grew up kind of similar the same way and it's all about like just because we grew up the way we grew up and we okay that don't make a lot of that shit right you know what I'm saying and I believe in that man like I just man he's kids soft and it's that man I'm gonna love on my son I don't care what you about all that hard it's time to teach him a lesson and be hard but man you gotta pour that love into him but they're going to give it back, man.

53:28No doubt about it, man. I believe that wholeheartedly, man. I hate that. But you got to be balanced, people. Hey, listen. You got to be balanced. You can't let them be soft. You cannot. Hey, hey, they can't. Hey, listen. The softness comes. My thing is this. You better fight on the drop of a hat if somebody put their hands on you. Zero scary. Zero scary. Ain't no scary. but you're going to be soft because you used to live in a certain way. So I know you ain't trying to stay at the three-star hotel because you're going to be looking at me like I done did something wrong to you. You know what I'm saying?

54:06Not at all with that though, but as long as, as long as if it pop off, you know what I'm saying? You jumping off the porch. You got, you can't, you can't, you got to be ready for it. Like you can't be, I don't believe in that. Like my son already know, man, don't start nothing, but you better finish it. If somebody come on with it. No, listen, I don't give a damn how big he is. Listen, let him know you're throwing hands, you're throwing hands immediately, and you're going to keep throwing hands every day until you get a W. Bully wants to bully. He don't want to fight for that win. No doubt about it.

54:40And it's okay to lose, D. Right. It's okay to lose, bruh. It ain't okay to run from it, though. No question. No question. You know what I'm saying? No question, bruh. You cannot run from it because you're going to get chased for the rest of your damn life. And if it ain't by them, it's by somebody else that probably ain't even going to put a hand on you. But you done gotten to that point to where you're like, you know what? Instead of me going ahead and fighting this, I'm going to run. No, I ain't running from nothing. Like, I've been in situations where I should have ran. It was a six-piece. It was six-on-one.

55:10I should have ran. Yeah? But I didn't. I was foolish. You know what I'm saying? I didn't. Oh, I ain't running from no moat. I said, yeah, I should have ran that time.

55:22hey man what Poulos doing what's your son doing hey man you got a job I'm trying to get him off the books off the books man he's still on the payroll he just graduated he just finished college he chilling man trying to figure it out figure out what he going to do next got a little finance degree he's doing his thing man give him some time to figure out what he gonna do next. You know, he got time. Ain't no big deal. Ain't no rush, man. Hey, it ain't never no rush. I tell you, listen, man, listen, you can stay here. I tell my kids, like, listen, man, you could be a professional college student.

55:59You want to get your bachelor's, go get your next, go get your doctor, go get your master, whatever. You could be a professional college student until you're 40, babe. Like, why don't you keep your degree? That college degree ain't gonna be worth shit for this song. Hey, I already got a plan for them. They don't even know it yet. I already got a plan. You better have some. Well, they're going to take all the jobs. I already got a plan for it, brother. Look here. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential.

56:33Either way, the podcast Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

57:23You don't need to have everything figured out right now. You just need to understand yourself a little bit better. Listen to The Psychology of Your 20s on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The story I told myself can then shape my behavior, and that can lead me to sabotage the possibility of connection. This Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast Deeply Well with Debbie Brown if you've been searching for a soft place to land while doing the work to become whole. This podcast is for you to hear more. Listen to Deeply Well with Debbie Brown from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

58:07If you're watching the latest season of the Real Housewives of Atlanta, you already know there's a lot to break down.

58:21On the podcast, Reality with the King, I, Carlos King, recap the biggest moments from your favorite reality shows, including the Real Housewives franchise, the drama, the alliances, and the tea everybody's talking about. To hear this and more, listen to Reality with the King on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is Saigon, the story of my family and of the country that shaped us. From iHeart Podcasts, Saigon. You don't think I'm serious about a free Vietnam? One city, a divided country, and the war that tore America apart. This is for Vietnam. They're pouring petrol all over here.

59:02Freedom for Vietnam! There's a fire coming to this country and it's going to burn out everything. Listen to Saigon on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human.