Deebo & Joe - Part 1: Steelers QB Plans: Anthony Richardson to Pittsburgh? + Gainwell to test Free Agency

16:50Joe Haden:Don't bring Rodgers back. Give it all to Will Howard. Crash or burn. Let's ride it out. And it's not even crash or burn. I mean, we, because if - No, I mean make it. You either had a success -

17:02James Harrison:You're going to do, you're going to figure it out. You get what you get, period. You get what you get. We're going to see.

17:08Joe Haden:You're sticking with - I'm sticking with it because I'm like - You're sticking with, what's his name as the backup though? Mace, who you say, Mace? Rudolph, yeah. I'm not mad at Mace. I'm not mad at Mace. Like you say, you know what you're going to get. I'd rather trade for one of these other cats and see, and have a competition before I go and just let him sit there comfortably. No, he's not going to be comfortable.

17:33James Harrison:He's had A-Rod's tool. He was sitting there comfortable last year, backed up.

17:37Joe Haden:And look what he did when he came in, threw the pick immediately. Yeah, that was not a good point. They ain't throwing no picks. Let me show y 'all how to do this.

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22:30Joe Haden:his potential his potential spots though is uh all right look answer me this yes you got a chance to land in. Same money. Miami, New York Jets, Arizona. Miami. Money the same. New York Jets. Where you going? Arizona. New York Jets. I don't even know what's taking you so long.

22:56James Harrison:Miami. Good lord, Joe. Taxes. I'm really trying to get taxes and I'm really, yeah, I was trying to think about who has the best. Good weather. Yes, the good weather. If it's just for, yes.

23:07Joe Haden:The only person that got bad facilities like us was Arizona.

23:13James Harrison:I like A.C., though.

23:15Joe Haden:I love Scottsdale. You wouldn't like their facility, bro. I went there when I was a free agent. Facilities are way better than theirs then. The Steelers' facility is way better than the Cardinals? The one I walked into, yes, sir. Okay.

23:34James Harrison:They had to upgrade by then. They had to. I don't know about that. The Bengals had to upgrade too because they joined when I went was not good on my visit.

23:44Joe Haden:I think they did upgrade something. They had to. They did. They did. They did upgrade something. But we got some bad news, though. What we got? Ken Gainwell said, man, look here. I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to test the free agent market as he should. Deservingly so. Okay. Okay. As he should. Still as GM Omar Khan said at the combine, quote, he knows we want him back. But can the Steelers afford it or is it worth it? And I say, is it worth it? Because if we're going to use him in the same fashion as they planned and did, well, as they used him last year, then maybe it's some way you can you can try and foot that ticket.

24:33Joe Haden:You know what I'm saying? Because he's looking at being only the second team MVP to exit in free agency after winning the MVP. And the other one was Neil O'Donnell in 1996, brother.

24:51James Harrison:But you know how this works. You know how this works. He came over here, that minimum deal, prove it deal, one year,$1.7 million, and he outperformed the deal. He went and did what the prove it year is supposed to do. It goes to show that I'm supposed to go. I'm better than that. I'm supposed to go get the bag. So the Steelers got off when they was able to get him, sign him for that. That was a steal. We stole Gangwell. So now he needs to go get his bag, obviously. He deserves it. So for him to go test the market, go get, because now people see what you got. We stole you from 1.7 on the prove a year, and you did what the prove a year, what that year is for.

25:31James Harrison:So we can't try to hold him hostage like, man, go out there, go get what you can. For sure you deserve it. But at the same time, we still have Jalen Warren that's making$5 million a year on our roster. And he deserves it too. But that's where the running back market is. You can't have two of them making$5 million a year. when you feel like you got a rookie, you got him at a vet for 1.1, why you can't hit again? Get another veteran coming off the team trying to get a prove-a-year, trying to get another deal. Like, they feel like, maybe I can do that again. Omar Khan's like, oh, I found Gamewell.

26:03James Harrison:I can find another one, type. So, like, I feel like this happened for a reason. He deserves his bag. He came and did what he had to do for the prove-a-year. So, with the Steelers, I'm like, I can see where they're coming from. I know they're paying Warren already. We have a rookie running back that was on the roster this year, but he's got a second year that he can hopefully come ball out. But it's like the money is kind of acting funny. So I know they definitely you want him to come back. I know you do. Of course you do. But you don't want him to come back at the ticket that he wants to come back because he knows he deserves back pay now.

26:35James Harrison:He was out there hooping, 1 ,000 yards, MVP for the team, making that 1.1 when no knock to Jalen. Jalen did exactly what he was supposed to do. He's making$5 million a year. Top running backs are making$20. These dudes are not asking for crazy money. But when you're saying two$5 million a year running backs, when you could get a Gamewell for 1.1 and you have a Warren at 5, it's like the math just kind of looks crazy. So two things could be right. Gamewell, you deserve it. You did exactly what you needed to do. Omar would love you here.

27:06Joe Haden:Two things could be right at the same time. You know what I'm saying, bro? Both can be right. Ain't nobody got to be wrong. Ain't nobody got to be wrong. You just got to look at something from a different perspective, baby. If I'm sitting over here and I got a six sitting in front of me and you over across that table from you, it look like a nine. Neither one of us is looking at it in a different perspective. You feel me? True. Ain't it the truth? Hey, they say we need a number one. That's bad. Number one or number two receiver. And with that being said, there's speculation from an NFL reporter and another NFL analyst of people that could possibly be traded, dealt.

27:42Joe Haden:and Brian Thomas Jr. was one of those names from the Jags that some people believe we should trade for. The Jags made, what, a deadline trade last year for, what was the guy's name that they ended up, was it Jacoby Myers? They ended up making a trade for him. They made a trade for him like mid-season last year because Thomas was, he was going downhill there for a little bit. And then after they did that, they signed him to a long-term deal. But, you know, I don't know if that's because they're looking at possibly being able to move him or it was because they already knew what their plan was with Travis Hunter as making him primarily a corner and just getting him some wide receiver snaps.

28:36But with that being said or it being a possibility, first, what do you think the likelihood of that happening, like them trading them?

28:47Joe Haden:And if they do, do you think the Steelers should pursue it? That can give us something. What do you think?

28:55James Harrison:Likelihood of it happening. Likelihood of it happening. I don't know how likely. I think it's not too likely. I would like it to happen. I mean, I don't know. I don't know, honestly, with this one, Debo. Do you – I remember he had some drops going on in his career a little earlier, but then he – Still young, though. Still young. Still young. Still young. But I don't know.

29:19Joe Haden:I could put you on the ball. I could put you on the back. You put me in the bad spot. You put me in the bad spot. Listen, no, I'm talking about him. I could put him on the ball. I could put him on the jugs machine all day. I could do all that. I could get his hands right. I could get his hands right. See, I like to look at it both ways. I was hoping that you would go with him because – Do you want to go with him? I don't think it's going to happen. One, I just don't think it's going to happen. Two, I wouldn't pursue it. I just don't like his decline in his performance over that season. And he would be coming to Pittsburgh and playing in not ideal weather.

29:58And you was down there in Jacksonville.

30:02James Harrison:Perfect conditions. Hey. And Trevor Lawrence, too. We not sound like he's not a bad quarterback. I can't. He's not bad. I just, I can't, I can't take that chance if. So that's what I'm saying, too. I'm a stillist. When you looking at, let me go, D-Bow. Now, since you was on the same page, because I didn't want, it's, I'm not, I'm not disrespectful. It's hard to be like, like, Brian. Joe, you got to speak your mind without worrying about what the people going to say, Joe. You know what? You're right. You know what? We don't need, we don't, we don't need him the same. That's what I'm saying. We need hand-catching receivers that are just natural catchers.

30:38James Harrison:And I don't know if he's a natural catcher of the ball. He looks like we don't need people that's coming off of any type of drop ball stuff when you're a wide receiver. Like, no, no, we do not need that. That's your job. That's your job description. You're a professional. You're an NFL wide receiver. Like, drop balls are the reason why you aren't in the league.

31:02Joe Haden:Oh, Joe, you trying to throw the man out the lead now. No, no, I'm not trying to throw him out the lead, but I'm saying if it's catchable.

31:08James Harrison:Look at you, Joe.

31:09Joe Haden:I'm fucking with you, Joe. Count down. Oh, scary-ass boy.

31:15James Harrison:What's wrong with you? See, I was trying to see. I try to keep positivity up, man. Like, I don't want to be talking crazy about him.

31:23Joe Haden:Hey, man, listen, man. Sometimes in the walk, man, you got to go ahead and get in the shadows. Got to. You know what I'm saying? Especially you doing it. Sometimes you got, listen, man. Have to. Telling the truth. If telling the truth, if telling your truth, it ain't even got to be the truth. It's my truth. If telling your truth. Telling my truth. Hurt somebody's feelings. In my perspective, let the pain flow.

31:46James Harrison:Let the pain flow. Because you know why? Let the pain flow. Because you know, if they ask me about it, I'm going to be like, that's just how I really feel.

31:53Joe Haden:Hit dog a holler. Like they said, hit dog a holler, baby. Hit dog a holler. You ain't allowed. If he ain't feeling that way about it, he ain't going to say nothing about it. When you see all these cats, they jump up, they feel real upset and want to fight the commentator because he said that I wasn't good at this or that, and da-da-da, hit dog or holla. Uh-huh. You know what I'm saying? I feel that. You know what, Lebo? Yep. Hit dog or holla. No question. No question. Hey, Kevin Stefanski revealed that he knew Thursday, before the season finale, he was getting fired by the Browns, Joe. Wow. He knew it.

32:31Joe Haden:But you know what I find funny? What do you find funny? He said Thursday before the season finale, which was against Cincinnati. Right.

32:45I believe if you go back, dude.

32:49Joe Haden:All right. You remember after he got fired and they were playing the clip where he was whispering something into Mike's ear. Yes. And Mike didn't pay no attention to it and kept walking. I think the man knew he was getting fired then, okay? Because that was before the last game. Uh-huh. Because he went with the, you know, da-da-da-da-da, and he went to look to see. He went to look to see if Mike was going to give him a reaction, and Mike took off walking. Uh-huh. Man, listen, he was like, man, I don't give a damn about your problems. I'm glad they're yours and they ain't mine. I got more impression shit to worry about.

33:24Joe Haden:They thinking about finding me. They thinking about finding me. about you getting fired. Come on, man. Hell out of my ear. We ain't even that tight. Yeah, whatever. Yeah, whatever, motherfucker. Yeah. I'm out of here, man. For sure. Man, what was it? We played them on the 28th of December. So I think he knew way before that, man, that he was getting fired. I think they might have told him that game, look, hold up. Let me say it. Hey, Kevin. Don't put no undue pressure on you. Because you know him and the GM, they wasn't the tightest. You know what I'm saying? They wasn't seen eye to eye. Hey, look here.

34:10Joe Haden:I don't want to put no undue pressure on you. But I'm the GM. I make moves. And I'm going to get you up out of here before they get me up out of here. You lose this game to the Pittsburgh Steelers? Hey, your ass fine. see that's what happened Joe I'm just I'm speculating allegedly conspiracy theory conspiracy theory conspiracy theory thank you that's my conspiracy theory what's your conspiracy theory Joe

34:39James Harrison:I don't think it was a conspiracy theory I mean yeah they told him that it's just crazy to me though knowing that when you playing for your coach and he know he So all of that is fake juice. Everything's fake juice. Do you know what I'm saying? He out the dough for real. And he's saying he happy that they got to tell his family and stuff so they could get their things in order. How about the players that's about to get chopped every day too? Like, it just baffled my mind. Don't tell him. No, don't let him know. Fire his ass right after the game. Don't get on the – don't even go back to the locker room.

35:23James Harrison:Nope. I didn't get a heads up. When we get cut, we don't get a heads up. I don't want to hear that. You make it$10 million. Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe.

35:31Joe Haden:If you don't get to pick this game, we cutting your ass. Just letting you know.

35:34James Harrison:What? I'm spooked. Like, how dare you? Hey, I'm about to jump every route. Bruh, you know what I'm saying? Do you know if you took, like, if a nigga was going into the game like this, hey, bruh, you cutting it on Thursday, and you tell him that he got to play the game. I got to go play the game. And you're chopped. You're chopped right after the season. Like, okay, I understand coaches are different, all that, man. That just baffled my mind that everything that he's talking about going forward, talking about, oh, no, we don't know if we're going nowhere, talking to the players. We really all vested, and you're literally one foot in and one foot out.

36:12Joe Haden:Well, hey, Joe, that's another part of being a coach and being so-called professional in this league. You got the professionalism. That's where you got to sit there. I love that. I love that. Keep it going because you want to be able to continue to get a job.

36:26James Harrison:I'm saying that's crazy. We grown men out here, and you're literally lying to my face. Like, oh, yeah, come on, like da-da-da, and all of this.

36:35Joe Haden:Joe, that's the world of NFL head coaches. They want to hide to your mouth.

36:42James Harrison:Don't tell him nothing. Don't tell him nothing. Because now I'm, nope, I'm good on it. Honestly, don't tell him nothing. You better coach me up like you're trying to keep your job. Don't act like you are and your job is done. There's nothing you can do better than to keep your job. So you're doing half-ass right now. All that is fake juice. You know what I'm saying? Like, you're fired, fool. Go home, Roger.

37:09Joe Haden:Get your ball and go home. Hey, Joe, if they tell you a week before. I'm taking my ball and I'm going home. Hey, I'm not going to, Joe, I'm not going to leave and go home because that is just... No, no, no. I'm not going to take my ball home. I'm not going to leave it at home. I'm going to keep it a professional. But what I'm going to do... I'm going to keep it a bean. But what I'm going to do... You know why? Because the honest guy don't lie. No, no.

37:28James Harrison:You know why? The honest guy don't lie. My tape is my resume. So that's why I will never shortcut the game. But I'm calling my agent. I'm not doing anything extra. No, no. I'm calling my agent. Get me the fuck out of here.

37:40Joe Haden:Listen. You tell me before the game that I'm getting cut and you still want me to play in that game. Yo, as a player... No, that's a coach. How could you tell me that? Coaches are different for sure. Coaches are different. You got to realize, hey, man, I'm going to let you go. Hey, let me go home, tell wife and the kids, all that. Hey, listen, we're going to be up out of here now. So right now, start looking around. See where you would ideally like to be just in case that opening. He go to openings that they're looking at. I can get a head job with one of these, okay? But as a player, you tell me, hey, listen, Monday, You told me Monday that Thursday.

38:20Joe Haden:He said, no. The game is on Thursday. I am not playing in that game. I promise you I'm going to come up with a mystery illness. Debo. I'm not going to go out there and get hurt for you and mess up my chances to get signed again.

38:32James Harrison:Debo, you're acting real funny now. You think you would do the most disrespectful stuff of all time. They tried to do that to you. Are you kidding me?

38:42Joe Haden:I am not. I am not. Listen, I am not playing in the game because I'm going to have a mystery illness pop up right there on game day. On sight. On sight. Man, I can't. The portion of God got me locked to this toilet. Man, I got that rug. I'm down. Bang. I'm throwing up. You're tripping. Hey, I'm coming.

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43:07Joe Haden:and find the vehicle that fits your people. Oh, help me out. I'm coming out both ends, the front and the back.

43:15James Harrison:I'm telling you. Debo, Debo, Debo, listen to me now. I understand the professionalism. I understand it. I get it. I get it. You got to get your things in order. Ain't his money guaranteed, though? I hear you. I hear you. But when they let him go, he still get paid. He's still getting paid. Everything's guaranteed. You know you're not going to be there no longer. It's professionalism for show.

43:39Joe Haden:Yes.

43:39James Harrison:But still, why even? No. Give him two more days. Let him keep fighting for his life. Like he doesn't. No. The way that they do the play is so dirty. with that, there's no heads up. You don't need no heads up. You got M's, fool. You could fly your family to do whatever they need to do. Like, all of that, like, oh my God, his feelings. No! You're chopping these undrafted free agents that don't got nowhere to go. They sitting there looking crazy. You know what I'm saying? Schools. You putting the kids in the schools and all that for the players. And then chop them. I don't want to hear none of that sympathy for the coach making$10 million too.

44:19James Harrison:I don't feel sympathy for us. No, we got things to do. This is our job. We're getting paid. We're working. We're doing whatever. So don't know sympathy for me. I got to make sure my family good. So do you, Stefanski. Chop him right later the same time I thought I was going to fight for my job to still be there with the Browns and then get cut. No. No, no, no.

44:40Joe Haden:I don't approve. So you on the mindset, you like, okay, I ain't telling him nothing even though I'm about to fire his ass. You ain't cold up. For sure. Game ended on Sunday. Firing him on Sunday. I'm firing him right after the game. Oh, wait. I'm rocking with... You firing him right after the game, and then you telling him, go catch a commercial flight because you ain't on the team plane.

45:02James Harrison:You don't play for us no more. See, I wouldn't... Okay, look. I'm not cold like that. I let him take all the team stuff all the way back. Bink, slam, fire.

45:15Joe Haden:Damn, Joe. See?

45:16James Harrison:Straight up. Joe, I had to talk to you. That's not good, Joe. A lesson, man. I told you let go a little and you just went crazy. No, I got to know. You know what? You told me this how you really feel and you want to, this how you really feel, let him know. You changed your mind though because you was like, oh, throwing him on a commercial flight ain't right now. See, that's what's not right. He can still take the flame back. You can fire him in the air because when we land, it's still going to be the same thing. You told him three days earlier. What you thought that was going to be? It's like, I'm going to tell you earlier.

45:48James Harrison:You know what I'm saying?

45:48Joe Haden:Listen, I want to get you. He said in the interview, he said he thought that was a good thing. That was a respectful thing to do. Letting him know, hey, ahead of time, hey, we're going to get your ass up out of here, but we're letting you know now. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. Don't say nothing. It ain't nothing you can do to change this. Now, I'm just telling you what it is. It's done. It's over. I'm done. Hey, it's over. I took it. Hey. Yep. That's how I feel. Hey, cut. You fine. Don't say nothing else. I don't want to hear nothing else. Don't thank me for nothing. Hey, just, you're fine. I don't want to say nothing else.

46:21Joe Haden:Joe, your salary cap has hit a milestone 301 million. $2.00 for 2026, brother. First time it's ever topped$300 million. The boy's getting that bad. $22 million increase over the last year, and it's a 40 % increase in the last five years, Joe. What do you think of this, Joe?

46:46James Harrison:I think it is amazing. I think that all of this, this is what it is though. All of this TV money, all these different apps that we watching the games in are getting everybody paid. The owner's making money, so then the players are able to make money. Everybody's making money. The salary cap isn't going to go up if the owners aren't making dough. So if their check isn't getting bigger, then the players' checks aren't getting bigger. So I'm all for the players' checks getting bigger, the salary cap increasing, going to$301 million. But that's why quarterbacks can make$60 million a year. Receivers can make$35 million a year.

47:29James Harrison:DBs can make$35 million a year. Left tackles is going up because now that's just what it is. So it makes it tough for like the mid-level guys and how much is he worth? The Kenneth Gainwells, the Jalen Warrens. It's tougher for the middle guys than the high-class guys. The big dudes, if you're getting that second contract, you're going to spank. If you're the top of the top, you're the top tier, you're top 10, you know what I'm saying, in your position, it's time to get paid. You know what I'm saying? If you're sitting around a little lower level, medium, good player, but you're not that guy. You're not going to reset the market.

48:05James Harrison:You're not the Jamar Chases. You're not Justin Jefferson. listen, you're not my man with a corner from Denver. Number two, you're not Pastor Tan. You know what I'm saying? These dudes are resetting the markets. So when you're just kind of trying to figure out where's my spot, where do I fit in, it looks crazy when dudes are saying, oh, yeah, he's getting a three-year,$100 million for a cornerback. Ah, is he worth it? I'm like, that's the way that the salary is. The money is up there because the best of the best, they're getting$40 million. So where do we fit these other guys? It sounds crazy. Oh, is he worth$15 million?

48:38James Harrison:Yes, because the way that the money is working now, he can fit into the salary cap. So there's a lot of money, but the top of the tops is going to obviously always get it. Now with this being$300 million, now the quarterbacks are going to be making$65,$70. Because the percent of the cap that they take when it was at$150 million is the same percent that they have for the cap of them now when it's$300 million. So the higher play dudes, it's amazing. The new dudes that are coming up to get their contracts, amazing. You're going to set generational numbers and you deserve it because that's the way the league is going.

49:18James Harrison:These dudes are making money, so so should you. I want you to maximize on it. Crush it. Everybody, go get your dough. But we're looking at it because end of the day, it's this high because all these apps, the NFL, the owners, They're making so much money that now you can get your little bigger cut of the pie because they're getting these checks coming to each individual owner. That's$400 million. Bing, before they sell a jersey, a ticket, a hot dog, anything. They could cover their cap$100 million up before they make one sale. So blessings to the players. That's why I love seeing dudes get the bag.

49:55James Harrison:I never try to talk bad about them because I still want you to get your bag. Trust me. Go get your bag. But this is the way the league works. Them dudes is getting checked, overchecked. So that's why I don't feel bad. You ask them for your bag. You want more facilities to look better or things like that. It's not league dudes. I don't want to.

50:16Joe Haden:I would venture to say, Joe, that you are very happy about this, right? I am ecstatic. Well. In a way. You know why you're happy, Joe? In a way. You know why you're happy, Joe? Listen, Joe. Go ahead. Time for me to talk. Know why you happy? Because you're uninformed. Oh. So, unofficially, the estimates from, they said five years was, so let's go to 2020. The unofficial report was like$17 billion. to now they're saying it's going to exceed at least 23 25 billion this this past year um all the way up to 27 being over 25 plus billion they're thinking more like 27 billion by 27 and your salary cap is$301 ,000 ,000.2.

51:21Joe Haden:So it's roughly$9.6 billion. That's a lot of money, right, Joe? What,$9.6 billion? Yeah, that's a lot of money. Yes. $9.6 billion. But under the current CBA that is in place, it should be a 48-52 split. And that CBA lasts until 2030, right? And it will end at the end of 2030. Now, I ain't the smartest cat in the books. But if you're doing$25 billion this year, or you did$25 billion, and you're doing a$48.52 revenue split, if you minus$9.6 billion from$23.25 billion, that don't add up to a$48.52 split. Do it, Joe. Why don't that add up, Joe? You know why? Please tell me. Well, behind closed doors, Joe, the deal that was made was in favor of the NFL owners.

52:34Joe Haden:So first thing they do is we're going to split 48-52, but we're going to take at least two, I think if not$3 billion off the top first for us. that's something that their NFL PA allowed in 2010 when they first found out about it

53:00James Harrison:okay so we got so so far we got I was unaware the three billion rough to two anywhere from two

53:07Joe Haden:to three billion straight off the top first for the NFL and no okay all right now Wow. And that's because the NFLPA executive director we had, who was Smith is trash. That's another reason why when before Gene Upshaw passed, he was like, we're going to be locked out for a year because they put that on the table and they were not willing to negotiate that away. And he wasn't going for it. yeah see that's the crazy part so everybody that's right now in the nflpa the executive director the the people that work for the nflpa the committee the player reps this is something that they should know uh-huh it should already have knowledge of so for the so for you not to know that and them to continue to do these deals and keep that in there and on the table.

54:10Joe Haden:It's ridiculous. Nobody that is currently in the NFLPA, working for the NFLPA, in that organization in any way, sense, shape, or form, should have a shot at being elected the executive director of the NFLPA. And that, again, is another reason why I am running for executive director and i should be voted to win as executive director the nfl said they're gonna move quick to renegotiate you're gonna move quick to renegotiate and the contract is not up until 2030 why is that joe why joe why is what the 2030 why they trying to renegotiate this contract so fast joe before the 2030 collective bargaining agreement is even up please you debo you tell me because you know the collective bargaining.

55:04Joe Haden:This is why, Joe. This is why. So if you look, Joe, I just found some information, Joe. Okay, please. So if you look at the Super Bowl in Atlanta in 2028, it ain't got a date on it. So the NFL, leaving that open for a reason, they hoping to get 18 games by then. Okay. And then you know what they're going to do? They're going to cut your check 18 ways and you'll get no more money added to your contract the same as they did when they gave us 17 games. But you're so concerned with player safety that you left the date open because your real objective is to have an 18-game season by 2028 because you know highly likelihood of them putting in another trash director in the NFLPA is very, very likely because the whole process of who they pick, how they pick whose name they put in is so secretive.

56:01Joe Haden:Nobody even knows how it's done or can speak on how it's done. And if they weren't trash, this is what they would have been talking about at that press conference. But like I said, Joe, that's why you're happy. Yes. It's a good thing. It went up, but did it really go up in the percentage it was supposed to? Because that's okay. Debo, this is what I'm saying.

56:23James Harrison:I am with you NFLPA wise that it should the percentage the 3 billion dollars off the top ill aware I was not aware it's minimum at least 2 I know it's 2 minimum minimum 2 to 3 bill off the top when we say 52 to 40 it's supposed to be a 48-52 split right and they're not doing that is that what you're saying they're doing it

56:47Joe Haden:they're just saying hey it's a 52-48 split after we scrape this

56:51James Harrison:after we scrape this and the NFLPA

56:52Joe Haden:director Smith grabbed he went on ahead and signed that yes cool why you know it was a good deal good deal my ass he got hit yes

57:03James Harrison:so that's okay we saying the same we need to get some real people in there you need to get me in there that's what we need we need to get you in there we need to get you in there you see how you want to inform

57:13Joe Haden:no no we need to get you in there none of our players are informed no

57:16James Harrison:we need to get you we need to listen we need to get you in there to go find that thing three billion and get that bust down into the 52-48. So what I'm saying was when I'm happy that end of the day is going up because the money's going up, but if we're not getting the whole thing, that's what you're saying, that the NFLPA, what you're fighting for is it could be another$3 billion that goes to the players. At least two. At least two to three. Let's say two. Let's say two. To get that for the players where I'm with you. So two things could be right at the same time. I'm happy that it's going up, but blown.

57:52James Harrison:And we need to make sure that we get inside there and figure out that three. Because you said they're scraping off the top. They're getting more. There's 52-48. If we can just split that, that's what the deal is. But he signed the deal to let them scrape the two off the top? Oh, yeah. Okay. See? And then he signed more. When is the next deal up?

58:12Joe Haden:With him being the executive director. When are we doing the next deal? It's supposed to be something coming up. like right now but i still ain't heard if i'm informed from what i understand i think i heard something that they are actually in the process or have the names that they're going to submit i ain't heard nothing from cam hayward i ain't heard nothing from calais campbell i ain't heard nothing from nobody like i need somebody that is not absolutely connected to the hip of the nflpa to let me know something everybody in there as far as i'm concerned they in collusion they in Decahoos. Decahoos.

58:50Joe Haden:That's what I'm saying.

58:51James Harrison:Yes. Because you trying to get the info. Nothing. Like nothing. Nothing. Yeah, D-Bo. That's janky.

58:59Joe Haden:That's janky promoters. But, hey, it's not about the players getting what they want. It's about these guys who are in these positions keeping those positions and furthering those positions once they're done with the league or the league is done with them. That's it. That's it. Facts, facts, facts. You know way better than me. I need to get more. Yeah, go ahead, baby. Go ahead. Hey, listen, all it's going to do is upset you a little bit. That's the problem, man. Nobody's informed, but they're saying everyone's informed. Stop it, dude. No, they're not. No, they're not. No, they're not. You don't have to prove what you're doing to them.

59:38Joe Haden:Yes, you do. That's the place. No. Well, you don't have to anymore because all you got to do is cater to your committee and your NFL. Not even hell. you ain't even got to really cater to the NFL player, the player reps that much anymore. The committee has gotten more power than the reps now. Like when the media is telling you your players are not informed, they're not informed. It's a problem, buddy. I don't think, who gives a damn what you think, man? Get out of here.

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