Deebo & Joe - Part 1: Waddle TRADED to Broncos + should Steelers bet on Will Howard? + Shedeur Year 2 Plans

17 Mar 2026 · 47 min · 16 chapters

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Nightcap Podcast Episode Summary

Podcast Overview Title: Nightcap Description: Nightcap is a nighttime sports talk podcast hosted by legends Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson. The show provides unfiltered analysis on the latest headlines from the NFL, NBA, and college football.

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Episode Details Episode Title: Deebo & Joe - Part 1: Waddle TRADED to Broncos + Should Steelers Bet on Will Howard? + Shedeur Year 2 Plans Episode Description: NFL legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden discuss recent trades and player developments in the NFL, including Jaylen Waddle's trade to the Denver Broncos, Michael Pittman Jr.'s endorsement of Will Howard, and expectations for Shedeur Sanders in his second year.

Timeline

  • 00:00 - Intro
  • 05:38 - Michael Pittman Jr. on Will Howard
  • 10:00 - Shedeur Year 2 Expectations
  • 18:20 - Bengals Improved Defense
  • 25:45 - Jaylen Waddle Traded to Broncos
  • 35:55 - DeAndre Hopkins Underutilized in Baltimore
  • 39:30 - Maxx Crosby Mending Relationship with Raiders

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Key Discussions and Insights

  1. Will Howard and Michael Pittman Jr.
  2. Endorsement: Michael Pittman Jr. expressed confidence in Will Howard and Mason Rudolph as good quarterbacks for the Pittsburgh Steelers. He highlighted the importance of learning from experienced players like Aaron Rodgers.
  3. Debate: Deebo and Joe discussed the skepticism surrounding Howard, particularly from fans who believe retired players are just trying to support him for appearances.
  1. Shedeur Sanders' Year 2 Expectations
  2. Potential Growth: The hosts discussed Shedeur Sanders' potential for growth in his second year with the Cleveland Browns, emphasizing the need for improvement in the offensive line to protect him better.
  1. Jaylen Waddle's Trade to the Broncos
  2. Trade Details: The Miami Dolphins traded Jaylen Waddle to the Denver Broncos in a significant move that included a first-round pick and other draft assets.
  3. Impact: The hosts debated whether this trade was worth it for the Broncos and how it affects their offensive capabilities moving forward.
  1. DeAndre Hopkins' Role in Baltimore
  2. Underutilization: Hopkins felt underutilized in Baltimore, raising questions about the offensive strategy and the role of Lamar Jackson in utilizing his skills adequately.
  1. Maxx Crosby's Relationship with the Raiders
  2. Rebuilding Trust: Crosby is working on rebuilding his relationship with the Raiders after a fallout, with emphasis on professionalism and the importance of maintaining a good working environment.

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Key Takeaways

  • Team Dynamics: The discussions highlight the importance of team dynamics, player endorsements, and how relationships between players and management can influence performance.
  • Player Development: The emphasis on the quarterback’s growth and how supporting roles can impact the overall success of a football team.
  • Trade Implications: Analysis of how trades can shift team strategies and reshape the competitive landscape in the NFL.
  • Individual Roles: The significance of individual player roles and their satisfaction with game utilization, which can affect team morale and performance.

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Final Thoughts This episode of Nightcap offers a rich perspective on player transactions and how they affect team composition and performance. The insights provided by Deebo and Joe emphasize the complexities of professional football, highlighting both personal and team-level dynamics that impact success on the field.

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Discussing Will Howard's Potential

4:33 to 8:12

Debate on Will Howard's abilities and the opinions surrounding his potential.

“I wake up, you know what I'm saying, get ready for the show, do my little thing.”

Michael Pittman's Insights on Quarterbacks

8:12 to 11:31

Analysis of Michael Pittman's comments on quarterback situations and team dynamics.

“When he says Aaron Rodgers, when you get a chance to play with a Hall of Fame quarterback, you don't give up that opportunity.”

Browns' Offensive Line Challenges

11:31 to 14:00

Discussion on the Cleveland Browns' offensive line improvements and challenges.

“I just saw something on the doc and I just hate that I have to even bring it up.”

Analyzing Offensive Line Performance

14:00 to 16:00

Learn about the impact of offensive line performance on game strategy.

“And he struggled in the pass protection last year.”

Coaching Changes and Their Effects

16:00 to 16:53

Explore how new coaching staff can influence player performance and team dynamics.

“If this sounds familiar, you're probably already a podcaster.”

Evaluating Deion's Son's Performance

20:59 to 25:01

Delve into the performance evaluation of Deion's son and his potential.

“The weather man, the weather lady is confident.”

Cincinnati Team Prospects and Challenges

25:01 to 28:00

Discuss the prospects and challenges faced by the Cincinnati team.

“He said, this is one of the few places I can compete for a Super Bowl and have a chance to showcase my talent.”

Super Bowl Predictions in the AFC North

28:00 to 32:30

The hosts discuss which team in the AFC North is most likely to win the Super Bowl and the rationale behind their choices.

“I was like, if I come there, I'm on the defensive side of the ball.”

Jalen Waddle's Trade to the Broncos

32:30 to 36:00

The hosts analyze the implications of Jalen Waddle's trade to the Broncos and its impact on both teams.

“The altitude over there is something real.”

Assessing the Value of Draft Picks

36:00 to 37:30

Discussion on the value of draft picks compared to established players, and what teams should prioritize.

“It's like, oh, no, we could draft this dude here.”
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Cleveland's Super Bowl Potential

37:30 to 39:36

The hosts speculate on the Cleveland Browns' potential to host and win a Super Bowl, reflecting on past performances and future prospects.

“Honestly, though, it's going to be my honest, honest.”

NFL Stadium Developments and Super Bowl Aspirations

42:05 to 44:43

Discussion about the ongoing stadium developments and potential Super Bowl aspirations for the Browns.

“both on the track and far away from it that have made F1 a delightful, decadent dumpster fire for more than 75 years.”

D-Hop's Usage and Performance Debate

44:44 to 48:20

Exploration of D-Hop's feelings of being underutilized and opinions on the coaching strategies.

“So what year is the stadium supposed to be done?”

Max Crosby's Professionalism and Team Dynamics

48:21 to 55:10

Analysis of Max Crosby's situation with the Raiders and expectations of his professionalism.

“Or is it maybe Lamar not getting him the ball, Joe?”

Persona on the Field vs. Off the Field

55:11 to 56:00

Discussion on the differences in player personas during games compared to personal life.

“Crosby has said on this podcast that if he acted the way he was, if he acted off the field the way he does on the field, he said he would be in prison.”

Exploring On-Field Personas in Football

56:00 to 1:00:22

Discover how players' on-field personas shape perceptions and interactions off the field.

“And I think when I first got into the league, basically, like, it was no name, no face.”
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4:19Welcome back to this episode of Debo and Joe. I'm your host, James Debo Harrison, and I'm here with my co-host, Joe Hayden. Please make sure you like, subscribe, and download where you get your podcast.

4:33James Harrison:How you doing today, Joe? I'm doing great, brother Debo. I'm doing pretty good. But honestly, let me get right into it. I wake up, you know what I'm saying, get ready for the show, do my little thing. I get a little chat in, see what the chat's talking about. And we got U.S. Citizen 69 that threw my whole vibe off this morning. Talking about something. Are we going to have more Will Howard talking about a third stringer? Everyone talking about a third stringer, whatever, all right? And then he says, all these retired players pretending to be all in on Will Howard just to see what he can do. You would 1 ,000 % not have had that same attitude if they were still playing, seeing it with Big Ben as a first-rounder.

5:23James Harrison:next thing okay Ben was taking over a quarterback that got hurt and was a QB for a football league that exited for one season existed for one season do you hear that Debo listen man man don't know what you're talking about when Ben went in there we was we had his back what are you talking about we went to the AFC well one game from the AFC championship listen U.S. citizen he probably Show me your paperwork. It needs something. All right? Show me your paperwork, 6 '9". Get out that 6 '9", and uncover your mouth, boy. Maybe that way you can think and talk. I was going to say, because what throws me off is all these pretending.

6:06James Harrison:Nobody's pretending nothing. If you, if I, whatever I say is what I feel. Whatever I, that's what I'm going to give you. If I'm not, if I don't, if I feel like I like Will Howard, I want to give him a shot. That's legit. Sometimes people go, I don't want to reach. If I don't see anybody that I like in the draft, these quarterbacks, people fall in love with dudes, I don't have to. You know what I'm saying? Josh Rosen was picked like seventh or tenth pick before Lamar Jackson. I'm like falling in love with these dudes. And he was not good. And nobody says nothing then. So you can like who you like.

6:44James Harrison:You don't have to like who you don't like. So I'm saying there's no pretending. If I tell you I like, I'm telling you who I like. Because that's what. I'm telling you what I like to see. I like to see the boy get a chance. Tell me about it. That's that's what we're saying. You understand? We don't need to reach. You know what? I might I might I might block your punk ass. No, you know. You know what I'm saying? See, you know, got me into Joe. Joe, I don't even know why you get that, Joe. My bad, Debo. You know what, man? I might have to go today, man. I might have to go today, man. You get the good love.

7:23Listen, my guy, Pittman Jr., he gave an endorsement to Will. That's what I'm talking about. He said, whenever you have a chance to play with a Hall of Fame quarterback, you always take that. He said, we also have two really good quarterbacks here in Mason and Will. So whatever ends up turning out, I think we'll have a good plan offensively. and we'll make the most of it. Joe, love his attitude. He was in Indy. The quarterback situation there was fluid. I'll say, I think he played with almost, what, nine, ten different quarterbacks when it came down to it through his career. So he has a great understanding of how quickly things can change in the NFL, but the mindset, it has to remain the same.

8:12Okay? and that's what he should be saying now me on the other hand i could say well yeah he's saying we got two really good quarterbacks i'll say hey mason rudolph i don't know about really good but that's that's that's me because that's what i'm gonna say now if i was on the team i'm gonna say the same thing you gotta go ahead you gotta help you guys out you gotta boost their confidence what i got in will howard i don't know because i haven't had the chance to see what he what he can do in the nfl i've seen what he did in college and i love what he okay so what he's saying totally understand and the possibilities of him having a hall of fame quarterback caliber quarterback come back that's that's that's understandable the knowledge that he can get of the game and the things that need to needs to be done you know from being able to play and and get the ball and learn and and all that under um Aaron Rodgers that would be a great thing for him and for someone of that caliber and you'd get to learn from them yes so this right here joe i'm all for i love it i understand it and again me sitting back i just got i ain't gonna say really good on on mr rudolph i just can't say that because i would be lying to myself and i don't need to lie to myself because i ain't playing no yes you're exactly right so

9:31James Harrison:So this is what I'm saying. I love the way that he did. I love everything Michael Pittman said. When he says Aaron Rodgers, when you get a chance to play with a Hall of Fame quarterback, you don't give up that opportunity. And that's exactly what we're saying. If A-Rod were to come back, he's not going to be the backup. And what I'm saying is that's obvious. That is what it is. You know what I'm saying? A-Rod comes back and he wants to be here for another year. You'll be back. You'll be the starting quarterback. You're not backing nobody up. You're Aaron Rodgers. And you came and did what you had to do last year.

9:59James Harrison:It wasn't your fault. So we know you're going to be able to right the ship. You'll be back here with McCarthy. So that's just respect. Him coming in the joint, he's played with so many different quarterbacks. He played with Rivers. He played with Wentz. He played with Ryan. He played with Richardson. You said like nine. There's a bunch of other quarterbacks he played with. So he knows it's fluid. You're going to be able to go in there and you don't control. You control what you can control. And what he can control is being the best wide receiver he possibly can. and anybody that's back there, he's going to be on his, when he needs to be running slant, he's going to be on his distance, on his timing.

10:35James Harrison:If he needs to be, he's going to know his job. He's going to know his assignment. He's going to know his alignment. He's going to know his technique. I love Pittman because when you're this kind of player, you're not like, man, I'm not giving me the ball. He's worried about what can I do best to make sure that the team is good. Not trying to make any headlines, making ways where if A-Rod were to come back, I would love to play with the Hall of Famer. We got two good quarterbacks in here. Will Howard, Mason Rudolph, you know what I'm saying? Whoever is behind center, I'm ready to go. Because I'm going to control what I can control.

11:06James Harrison:I'm just trying to be the best starting receiver for this team, get energy, get the vibes, do my part. You know what I'm saying? So I'm loving what he's doing, what he's saying. But at the same time, like, yeah, he's exactly right. Yeah. Listen, Debo, I can say this is when he's giving It ain't even that, dude. It ain't even that. I just saw something. You saw something else? I just saw something. I just saw something on the doc and I just hate that I have to even bring it up. No. It's the Browns. God damn. We got to talk about the Browns and I really Yeah, you do. Oh, so listen. The Browns went on ahead and And they added some people to the equation, you know, help out your boy, Shador.

12:00Titus Howard, he said, I met Shador when I came in last week. He's a great kid. He has a lot of confidence. I like that in the quarterback. He definitely has the pedigree. He has all the talent in the world. I'm a big fan. I guess the Browns think that they could do something over there. And I will say this. Come on. Come on. Just tell me how you just, you know. They had to do something. To hell with it. They had to do something, okay? Joe, they had to do something, Joe. The boy gave up 51 sacks last year, Joe. 248 pressures, 167 hurries, 50 quarterbacks. Yes, yes. Running for his life. Offensive line was ranked second worst in the NFL.

12:52almost behind, what was that? The Raiders. The Raiders. Y 'all was, listen, if you go and just look at it, Joe, like, if you really go and look at it, like, y 'all could have been last when it came down to it. Yeah. You know? So, anything that y 'all do, whoever y 'all sign, it's going to be an upgrade, Joe. You got Titus out. Okay, cool. You got him on the, what, what, 63 million, three-year extension. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. He didn't give up one sack last year. He only allowed, what was it, fewer than two sacks in his last five of his seven seasons. But his run game blocking is questionable at best.

13:38He has difficulty being engaged and staying engaged with the defender. And they said if he pull, don't even count him to go ahead and get him, Joe. No. They said if he pulling around to get a block, don't even count him.

13:49James Harrison:You're just trying to read into any negativity. Joe, I'm just telling you what the people said. Y 'all gave Zion Johnson, we're talking to him, 3-49-5. And he struggled in the pass protection last year. Struggled. They say, uh. It's new coaching staff. His run blocking was amazing. Run blocking was decent. I ain't going to lie. I'm blocking on point, and that's what we start. I ain't even lie. They say top tier. When we get them percentile, 98 percentile. Yeah. Go ahead. Okay. But we ain't got to worry about Shadoe passing the ball because he can't block. He can't pass. Once they get the run game on them and Juckins get the coming downhill on y 'all, that play action, they going to get to looking crazy.

14:36James Harrison:They going to be worrying about way too many other things. They not going to just be pinning their ears back. It's going to be third and two. You said y 'all. They might get toted on. You said y 'all. I didn't mean. I didn't. No, I didn't say y 'all. I meant anybody that the Browns were playing against. I didn't say y 'all. I didn't say y 'all. I didn't say y 'all. I didn't say y 'all. I said anybody that the Browns are playing against. I mean, I was saying that as an opponent. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, we getting it together over there. And OG. OG. Listen, y 'all signed. What was it?

15:09James Harrison:Trevon Jenkins? Y 'all gave that dude. What was it? Y 'all gave him some money. Elton. Elton Jenkins. Elton Jenkins. Two to 24. Four games last year. and then in Chicago the four years he was in Chicago, the man missed 22 games because of injuries. Who knows if he's going to be good, man. He's going to be good. You get in the line. I'm just saying, the best signing y 'all probably did was the other Jenkins. Y 'all gave him a two year 24 and that's because that man can play anywhere on the line. Guard, center, tackle, left, right side, don't matter. But hey, everybody else, they got some questions man no i see low i got some questions yo which i'll do how he knows exactly what it is shador is he's he's a confident dude believes in himself and i know that he thinks he's puts the work in i believe that he puts the work in here these fake stuff that he's not trying to watch tape how is he not this episode is brought to you by spreaker the platform responsible for a rapidly spreading condition known as podcast brain symptoms include buying microphones you don't need, explaining RSS feeds to confused relatives, and saying things like, sorry, I can't talk right now, I'm editing audio.

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20:58James Harrison:I watched the tape. That's Deion's son. He's been studying film his whole life. Yes. The weather man, the weather lady is confident. They give you that report every day. How many times does it ride? I'm just saying. All I'm saying is you got to give the man tools, got to give him some protection. And this is his second year. So I just believe him with time, the new offensive, the new coach, Tom Munkin. I love the way that he believes. You got to have the first step is having a coach believe in you. Hey, man, how you going to get a guy that can't block, man? You want to run the ball? What do you mean?

21:35James Harrison:We can run the ball. I'm just saying, man. I'm saying you got somebody over there that's struggling in the round block. You know what I'm saying? They said that. That's what they said. That's what the people said. Give them some time. Get our whole team. Let our unit get together. Give them some time to be together. I need to put my prescription glasses on because I can't see what you can't see. Maybe you need some glasses. I see real good when I put them on. And that's the other thing I was saying, too. Andrew Barry, we still not done. He's boiling chicken. I told you that. He's still moving.

22:10James Harrison:He's still moving pieces. We still got to just, we're going to clear Denzel. We're going to restructure Denzel Ward's contract to give us more salary cap space. And get more what we need. Wide receiver. And we're going to get another lineman. So you saying he boiled his chicken first And then seasoned his apple Man listen he's not rushing He's not rushing It's still He's not even It's still It's still When you put all the seasoning on it And it's marinating right now He's still in the marinating phase He didn't even get the He didn't even throw it in there yet Yeah So he ain't even put it on the He ain't doing nothing with it I don't know what he doing with it He just throwing seasoning on that thing It's marinating right now Okay.

23:00I didn't even know you could dry-aged chicken. I didn't know you could do that with chicken. I thought that shit got rancid.

23:08James Harrison:Probably do. You know, I ain't the cook. And he don't know how to cook either. Shut up. But I tell you what, we got a chef over there in Pittsburgh, though. See? I tried that. And listen, he cook American and he cook some of that Latin food, too. Omar Khan. Mm-hmm. Omar Khan doing his thing, but Andrew Barry, I'm trying to tell you, we still got time. He knows what it is. We got to get the receivers right. We need to get like, ah, Christian Kirk wouldn't be bad. Hey, listen. I just seen something in the chat. I ain't going to lie to you about it. They said Trent out there. Where is that? Trent.

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23:52Where is that? Where he at? Where he at? San Francisco. Williams. What's his name? Yeah, they say he out there. They say he out there. But that money going to be, ooh, he going to want a bang bang. Yeah, he is.

24:08James Harrison:And that man came in. We came in the same year, 2010. He's still out there hooping. He going to want a bang. Mm-hmm. Silver back. Wow. Go ahead and talk to him, see what he talking about. Ask him if he want to come on out here. Get away from all them EMF signals. Come on out to Pittsburgh. That might not be him. Ain't good for you out there, man. You're getting over it. He is. Ain't good for y 'all. Can't be having your body. Trent's free for real? He a free agent? I believe so, brother. I believe so. Unless I'm misspoken. Chad, is he free free? Let me know. Because that man, he's nice. Real nice.

24:53James Harrison:Hall of Fame. First ballot. No question. No question, brother. all the way. Hall of Fame. First battle. Now, let's go on over here to Cincinnati. Now, Jonathan Allen, he said this, bro. He said, this is one of the few places I can compete for a Super Bowl and have a chance to showcase my talent. When you see what they have on the offensive side of the ball, that's a dream for a defensive lineman. I think people would be lining up to play with a guy like Joe Burrow and the offense they have. Then the young guys you have on the defense and the pieces you're adding, I think, I really think this team is going somewhere.

25:42Yes. Ben said he think this team is going somewhere, Joe. So you signed him, Jonathan Allen. It was Boy Muffy. I don't know how you say that name. The D.M. And then it was the safety. Brian Cook. Brian Cook. Yes. Right? Okay. That is not making you a Super Bowl championship. Sorry. Love the confidence, but that ain't happening. This is the same team that defense was ranked 31st. 31st. They was giving up 380. Only people that was giving up more than them was Washington, and they was giving up 384. So you might as well say it was two last-place defenses last year, okay? Giving up 147 in the run game, that was dead last.

26:35You was 28th against the pass, 233 a game. Along with that, you was only 28th on third down conversion. Y 'all couldn't even get off the field, okay? Giving up almost 29 points a game, sorry, but you aren't making up for all of that.

26:51James Harrison:Debo, if I'm Jonathan Allen, I'm probably going to say the same thing. When I was with the, when you, if you're looking, outside looking in, you're a great player. You play defense. Your job is to stop them from scoring. When you're looking at your offensive side of the ball, you see Joe Burrow. You see Jamar Chase. You see Tee Higgins. You see that you're going to be able to score points. The reason why you're losing games isn't because of the offensive side of the ball. It's because of the defensive side of the ball. It's because of the side of the ball that you play. So you can speak as highly possible on them, like, offense is going to do great.

27:30James Harrison:We're going to score points playing with Joe Burrow, playing with Jamar Chase, because they do put up numbers. But on the defensive side, he like, we got to come there. And like, him coming there, he's feeling like, now I'm going to make the change to make our defense not as trash. And that's why he's saying it. When I left Cleveland, when I got released and I signed with Pittsburgh, it was because they had Big Ben. They had Le 'Veon Bell. They had Antonio Brown. They had Martavius Bryant. I was like, if I come there, I'm on the defensive side of the ball. My job is to help the defense stop. So if I'm Don Fallon, I'm saying the same thing because he's looking at the offense like, man, they're going to be fired.

28:13James Harrison:He's saying, all right, well, look, if I'm a player, that's what I'm going to say. What do you want him to say? What do you want him to say? No, are we going to be trash? No. Your offense is fire. You got to do what you got to do on the defensive side, making sure they bring the right pieces. I know they might not have it all right now, but if I'm him, that's what I'm saying too. Okay, so who do you see winning the Super Bowl in the AFC North? Which team do you see winning the Super Bowl first in the AFC North? Like who? this team, this team, this team, this team. Number one, two, three, and four.

28:50Who is that, y 'all? Give me your one. You say anything other than what I do. It's going to be a problem. The first team that's going to win the Super Bowl

29:00James Harrison:and the division. It's going to be... Don't say nothing stupid. Don't say nothing stupid. I feel like you're about to say something stupid. Who's going to say something stupid? Go ahead. And you know who it's going to be. Who? The Cleveland Browns. Cleveland Browns ain't never won a Super Bowl. They ain't even predicted to win a Super Bowl in the next 40 years. I don't care who predicted anything. I don't care. I don't care what they predict. Okay? I really don't. All right? All right, so who's second? The Steelers. The Steelers. Who third? The Ravens. Exactly. And who did last? Bangles. Listen.

29:55James Harrison:All right, all right. Let me take my other hat off then. All right, honestly. Let me take my other hat off then. For real, for real. It is the Steelers, then the Ravens, then the Bangles, then the Browns. because when I really... The only reason why... Hey, y 'all hear that Browns fans out there, man? Listen to Joe, man. Listen to Joe, man. He said, I can't lie on myself, man. Listen, my heart over here in Cleveland, but if I tell him it's lying and I stick on it, they're going to say Joe ain't... You got it. Joe, listen, man. Joe, I want to stop you right now. You still had Cleveland dead last.

30:38Now, I don't know. I don't know. But you had Cincinnati third. This right here is from my guy, Joe Burrow. Brother, it's not too late. It's never too late. He's still trying to think about this. Listen, I want you to think about this. Joe, Joe, if they really loved you, Max Crosby is still out there. Hey, he's still out there. and it ain't going to cost you as much as you think it is no more because he's still out there. Joe, if they really loved you, they'd show you. Uh-oh. And the fact that they haven't showed you, Joe, means we got the love sitting over here already, Joe. It's never too late.

31:28James Harrison:Never too late. You still recruiting? Look, yes, please. We get Joe Burrow, then it's putting the Steelers right to the ship. All I need is missing the quarterback. I mean, that's going to guarantee you. I'm not talking about Will Howard no more. We get Joe Burrow. I mean, nothing to talk about. Damn. That's crazy. Steebo, what you want me to say? If you get Joe Burrow, what you going to do? Be like, no, we got a quarterback competition. Hey, man, listen, man. Go ahead and learn another joke. That's what you're saying. Come on, man. Thank you. I mean, you like this, oh, whoa, whoa, you just going to throw one out?

32:09James Harrison:I'm like, Debo, come on. What you going to do? Hey, man. Listen, man. Hey, listen, brother, brother. I'm telling you, you got just a little bit. I ain't saying you got to go nowhere, but you got to sit back and we got to do a couple more years sitting there and learning the tools. Looking like we got some little news though, Debo. We got some news. We got Jalen Waddle got traded to the Broncos. He got traded to the Broncos. That would have looked like. From Miami to the Broncos. Mm-mm-mm. That's a good move. That's a great move for the Broncos. Listen, man. The altitude over there is something real.

32:57James Harrison:Yes, I hear you. My man, J.W., he's going to be, Waddle is going to be floating out there. bruh i can't i don't know man the way that thing the way that stuff do me that do me bad out there and that's crazy it ain't even i don't know i must it didn't affect me like that phew brother blockbuster trade good lord according to adam sheffner the denver receives Waddle and Dolphins fourth round pick, 11th in the round in this year's draft. So Miami receives Broncos first. They got a first round pick for him, dude, along with their late third and fourth picks in this year's draft. Bleacher report called obtaining Waddle.

33:54The dream trade scenario for Denver. Broncos this offseason. Brother. That much? That much? Wow. Would you have gave up that much?

34:07James Harrison:I mean, they gave up. It was the first round pick and what? It was the first. They gave up the first, the third, and the fourth. First, third, fourth. And they gave up. They got Waddle in the fourth. No, they were, yeah. Denver gave up a first, a third, and a fourth, and they got Waddle in the fourth. So they basically gave up a first and a third.

34:31James Harrison:I'm more of the mindset of I can see when you're a team that, you know, I need a receiver, somebody that's nice. I don't want to go draft someone in the first round. Those first round picks, I mean, they're good. But I'm like, if you're really trying to get an established player that you already know is nice and it's a need for your team, I like when teams sometimes go get it. So if you think there's going to be a first and a third, you don't think one of these young dudes are going to come in and be like a waddle. He's going to be playing right now. Do it. So I'm not mad at Denver for making those games.

35:07James Harrison:Yeah, I mean, there was one step away from fighting for the Lombardi. When you were in those spots. Other teams, if you're like, you know, you got so much to lose. You need those picks that you can build, taking time. We're more than one step away. With the Broncos, them dudes are nice. The defense was amazing. Just looking at giving Bo Nix, if they like him, they just trying to help him out. All right, now we give you Waddle. You guys, you have Courtland Sutton. You know what I'm saying? Like, we're just trying to give you the weapons needed to see if you're the quarterback that we need. You know what I'm saying?

35:38James Harrison:Like, we're going to give you the guys around you. Now we know if you're going to get the bag or not. Like, it's coming to that time. Bo, are you going to be$60 million a year? Like, are you the franchise quarterback for us? We're going to give you all the attributes around to see what it looked like. You know what I'm saying? And so I like when Denver does things like this or good teams make picks. I mean, don't use those draft picks and just go get somebody that they know that's going to be an instant plug and play. It's like, oh, no, we could draft this dude here. You know what I'm saying? And next thing you know, he's not good.

36:09James Harrison:He's fast, but he just doesn't adapt to the NFL game. He just can't get open. And we're like, oh, man, he looked good. But, you know, Waddle, he's going to get open. He's going to catch the ball. He's done it. You know what I'm saying? He had a thousand yards, back-to-back seasons. So it's like, I like when teams know what they want, they go get it. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, sitting back thinking about it now, like, y 'all was one step away. Adnis could get you further. But they had the backup quarterback, too. Y 'all was one step away with the backup. Yeah, I was about to say, they had the backup, too.

36:40James Harrison:Your man broke his ankle guy right last play of the game. So, like, they're like, man, listen, okay, we're going to go above. We're going to give you whatever you need and more. I like that. Smart moves. I guess, all right. No, looking back at it, you ain't give up too much. What's the contract, though? He's still under contract? How many years you got left? Or do they got to redo that? I see. Did they trade and get him all ready without redoing it? Now you got to, hey, listen, you gave him a little bit more power. We got to look at that. We got to look at the numbers. Hey, but look, where do you rank the teams, Debo?

37:19James Harrison:So, who's going to get the Super Bowl first? Okay. Steelers? Of course. We just going to say that. That's a no-brainer. After that, it's a flip between Cincinnati and Baltimore. Hold on. It could go two or three. It don't matter. And then Brown. I lie. No, you know what? Honestly, though, it's going to be my honest, honest. Honest, honest. depending on what happens it could be because it's the quarterback like I said if Deshaun is our guy Deshaun might not be the guy if Shadour is our guy if Shadour is our guy if Shadour is our guy it could be it could be the next you know 10 for Shell The new stadium?

38:22James Harrison:Oh, my goodness. That's what's happening. We're getting a new stadium? The stadium got to do with anything. Yes, it does. Yes, it does. That's going to make them better. Just, I don't know. It's just something, something's telling me. Because you can host a Super Bowl if you have a dome. So we might mess around and get the Super Bowl with the dome. Yep. I understand it now. What about Detroit? They got a new dorm and all that. They still ain't been. I don't care what they did. I'm talking about. That was 20 years ago. I don't care. The Rams did it, and it came right to their crib. So I'm just talking about, I've seen it lately.

39:03James Harrison:What God has done for somebody else, I've seen it do it for them. What you've done for others, he could do it for me. He could do it for me. So this is what you're saying. Is Cleveland going to host the Super Bowl? Y 'all go play in it. Yes. that's see you talking crazy but I don't know yet I'm talking crazy you're talking about Cleveland winning the Super Bowl I just gotta figure out how long ahead of time the Super Bowl game is scheduled that's what I gotta figure out this episode is brought to you by Spreaker the platform responsible for a rapidly spreading condition known as podcast brain symptoms include buying microphones you don't need explaining RSS feeds to confused relatives, and saying things like, sorry, I can't talk right now, I'm editing audio.

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42:24James Harrison:Good people, what's up, what's up? It's Questlove. So recently I had the incredible opportunity to have a real conversation with actress and producer Jamie Lee Curtis ahead of the release of her new thriller series, Scarpetta. I can honestly say I've never done an interview like that before. You know, at one point I shut my laptop down and we just started chatting as old friends, recent Oscar recipient. So we have some commonality there. I predicted that, by the way. And you said these words to me, dust off your mantle. Yes. And I looked at you and I said, what? And you said, dust off your mantle.

43:05And then I left and that was it. And then when all of that happened, I remember the next morning, I think I wanted to, like, write you and go, how did you know?

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44:30James Harrison:Because the stadium's going to be breaking ground. I got the email for the break ground of the new stadium, so I got to pull up. Because now I got to see where the confetti's going to be falling from, where I'm going to be at. I'm going to be on the sideline. That's where I'm going to be. So what year is the stadium supposed to be done? Ah, probably not too long. Not too long. Not too long. Was it 28, 29? 29. I'm going to get back to you with the specifics. I mean, is Miles still playing then? Miles? Oh, here you go. Here you go. Here's your Super Bowl. Miles is for sure playing. By the time you get to Cleveland, here's your Super Bowl.

45:09Miles is for sure playing. That might be 10 years from now.

45:14James Harrison:No, you know what? Why am I being? Because now I'm scarred because you keep talking to me crazy. You got me feeling like what I think is about to happen isn't really about to happen. So, listen. Listen. Listen. Listen. Listen to me now. Listen to me now. You are a real life Browns fan now. You have hope and belief and every year they're going to tear it out from your chest and smash it. Because it just was the right time when the Browns was doing good and we could have just kept good old Baker. When we had finally a little quarterback that was chilling, we could have gave him$25 million a year and would have just steadied the ship and just been good to go.

46:03James Harrison:But we didn't do that. Then Deshaun came and got hurt. Not his fault. And that plan didn't work out. Now we've drafted Shador, somehow snuck down to the fifth round. Now, Andrew Barry's bringing around way more talent. The same when we started bringing around Odell and Jarvis Landry. It started getting nice. Get players around us. Get your quarterback that can actually hit people around. We got 44. How did that work out, Joe? Listen, I'm telling you, that's why we didn't resign Baker. But we're going to resign Shador once things start getting looking good. We're going to see, oh, yeah, okay, we got it here.

46:42James Harrison:Okay, now we're going to keep the quarterback. Now we just need, you know what I'm saying, the other pieces, the receiver. We're going to get it right now. So, yeah, I'm actually excited about it because I think Shador is going to be the quarterback for us. And now we know we just need to build around other positions. We could do that. Cleveland has always had great defense. We got to score some points.

47:09Oh, and on to other news. So D-Hop said he felt kind of, you know, underutilized. Okay. So I guess first a Ravens fan had tweeted. Yeah. He said, if the Ravens are in the market for a veteran wide receiver, which I suspect they are, they should do. What they should do is bring back D-Hopkins back to Baltimore. And it's like, what a catch. I guess it's the thing right here. But in response, Hopkins said, how many times after this, do you think I was using the red zone? When targeted, I'm still one of the most productive, but never complain with my snaps and never will. Facts. So, well, that's kind of complaining right there.

47:53But anyway, Joe, what do you think of this? Because he's saying he got the thing right there. He got a little catch right there. He was targeted. He's feeling misused. He's feeling like they didn't do what they should have did. They didn't go how they were supposed to go. Obviously, I guess he took it down. He took the messes down. He later took it down. So, with that being said, whose fault is that, Joe? Is it more of the OC with the game planning of it? Or is it maybe Lamar not getting him the ball, Joe? What do you think, Joe?

48:28James Harrison:I think it's a little bit of both, you know. I think getting older in the league and your role kind of starts diminishing a little bit. and you feel like kind of you're the same player, I think D-Hop is still an amazing player. Can still catch the ball in the radius, but you lose a step. Still not the same speed, the explosiveness. You know what I'm saying? So I think for him, the usage, and you can feel like you need to be getting used more. You know what I'm saying? But the team may not. You know what I'm saying? So I think it goes a little bit of both being able to be like, just understanding roles, the way that the league goes, and, you know, I don't think that, yeah, father time, it is what it is.

49:13James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? Like, he's still a good player. He's still a wide receiver in the league, but he's not the receiver one that he was back in the day. Yeah, I'll agree with you on that. What do you think? I'm kind of in the same boat, but, again, I feel like they could have used him a little more. I feel like he still had enough to get more than what they were using for, but I'm happy that they didn't use him as much as they did because it wouldn't have benefited us if they did. But I don't think it would have really mattered because we got nephew over there. You know what I'm saying? We're going to wash that up out.

49:54I ain't even tripping, tripping, but it's the Ravens. It's almost right now I ain't going to say like the Browns, but, you know, it is what it is. And when it comes down to it, that's what it is. But we're going to jump on over here to this Max Crosby situation, though. So, Albert Breer, is that what the name is? He had this. Breer? Breer? Breer? Albert Breer. Breer. Breer. Breer. Okay, so he reported, he said, some of the fractured trust between Crosby and the Raiders was rebuilt organically last week when the team showed the five-time pro bowler that it had his back and reaching out and offering any help needed after the Ravens backed out.

50:45He said it won't hurt Clint Kubiak's effort to build a culture to have someone like Crosby. If Crosby buys in and there's no reason to think he won't, he has the potential to be what he's always wanted to be for the Raiders, a flag bearer and an agent of change. Joe. Yep. You think he go buy in? You think everything good? You think they just done went on here and said, hey, we good? You think he go do it? I mean.

51:21James Harrison:I think Max Crosby going to do it. he's a professional. Professionalism, I think that if he gets back on the team and he stays on the team and he doesn't get traded, I think his professionalism won't let him. He knows he got a job to do. It's a business. No matter what. Like, you get traded, people don't get traded. If you're back on the team and they're accepting you with open arms, you're not just going to be in there trying to, I don't think Max Cross would be in there getting his bread, getting paid still, like, trying to mess things up. That's just not the type of player that I think he is.

51:53James Harrison:I think he's going to come back in there. You're going to feel some type of way, you know what I'm saying, as a human being. But I don't think he would just carry that in the locker room trying to sabotage something because his main goal in the day is to try to win games. I don't think he wants to lose games. Winning over everything. Maybe after the season, he doesn't want to. You know, people work places where they don't like their boss, but you still going to go there and you still going to get the job done. I think for me, I think he's going to do it. I think he's going to go there, be able to be a professional, be able to get the job done.

52:26James Harrison:But all that extra rah-rah, like friends, homie stuff with the coaches or with the general manager. But people don't even really kick it with the general managers like that. It's not your coach's fault. Well, they got two new ones, though. Well, actually, he likes, I think it was said that he likes the new head coach, Clint. And even, yes. So even if it's like, if it's not your coach's fault, like, then your position coaches. These dudes, a lot of dudes in the building, they don't have no control over. It's a couple people that was able to make the decision to get him up out of there and to trade him.

52:59James Harrison:But now since he's back, you're back. They're saying they're welcoming you. And I just think the professionalism part and you're here to do a job. And I don't think he would not do it. Like, that's just, I don't think that that would happen. Yeah. I'm looking at it and like you said he likes the new head coach Clint Mubiak he also good with the GM John Spice whatever that name is along with his old position coach is now the actual D coordinator so he's the DC and then when you look at it he been doing this with phew bruh he done had six different head coaches in seven years bruh that's that that's that's what I'm saying because I have a little just being familiar it doesn't really matter you have a job to do you know I'm saying you are a defensive end in the National Football League I don't care what team you play for who's the coach when you get on the when you get on the game the eye in the sky don't lie that's your tape that's why you're getting paid the top DN money because you are professional DN you're you're you're hired you're a hired gun You know what I'm saying?

54:15James Harrison:Like, they put you somewhere. You're going to go wherever you're at on whatever team and ball out because that's what you do. You know what I'm saying? So you wouldn't mix that up because end of the day, if you're going to go mess that up, then they could start. No, he was just acting all crazy. Wasn't coming to meetings. Wasn't showing up. Was being very unprofessional. No, Max. You have a name to uphold. You have a legacy to uphold. You're a dog. Don't let these people start messing it up and trying to throw dirt on your name. Continue to just try to play to win. Play your hardest. Do exactly what you've been doing your whole career that's got you here.

54:50James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? So that's why I would look at him like, if I could give him any advice, just please do that. Because you already played for a bunch of coaches. You know what that turnover looks like. You know it's the NFL. People are getting cut. People are getting chopped. People are not getting paid. They're trying to find reasons not to pay you. So don't give them one. You know what I'm saying? That's all I'm trying to tell. Hey, reasons not to pay you. Crosby has said on this podcast that if he acted the way he was, if he acted off the field the way he does on the field, he said he would be in prison.

55:25He said, the second I put on my cleats, I cross, the second I put on my cleats and I'm across the line, I'm in a different environment. I'm thinking, I'm thinking about murder. I'm thinking about murder. You know what he means. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, the second I'm off, I can turn it off just like that because you have to. I can't be like how I am on the field all the time or I'd be in prison. Yes. Yo, do you feel that way? Do you got a persona that's on the field? Do you change? You know what I'm saying? Do you have a different – I know I do.

56:02James Harrison:Yes. My persona kind of changed. And I think when I first got into the league, basically, like, it was no name, no face. You're really out there trying to run through somebody. You're really trying to, like, the beginning when I was, we were trying to put people to sleep. Like, you were trying to, like, jump into them, yugger them, so they would go, like, night, night. Like, it was called Night Quill. So it sounds crazy saying it out loud, but that's the era that we grew up in. That's just the way that we played football. So it wasn't like you was trying to really, like, murder somebody, but you, like, sleep.

56:34James Harrison:like dude saying that that just was the way it was and i'm like oh my goodness that's really crazy but that's the way that we played the game back in the day so like okay that that's crazy but when i started getting older and like i would say after like year nine nine in the league once you start being a vet things move a little slower you can see what's going on like you can actively know when you're trying to missile into somebody you can really tell what type of tackle you're going But back in the day, I didn't care. You would still see somebody. You would see him drop the ball a little bit, and you would still come, boom, and you could still hit him.

57:10James Harrison:And then the coach would – I know I get two steps back then. He gets two steps. So now when you see people hit him within the two steps, I'm like, he saw that, and he's still hitting him. No, I'm like, you saw that. You know the two steps. You know that you can't avoid. But we're taught. And that's why I'm getting so mad. Like, dude, he's right there. That's a bang, bang play. Why are y 'all throwing the flag? That is not – he's not trying to – he's there. It's nothing he can do. Like, he's there, you know? Like, my persona, like, on the field, I think that's why everybody thought I was crazy.

57:40So, I mean, I don't, it's not fake. I know that's why everybody thought I was crazy.

57:44James Harrison:It's a whole, it's you. Because of how my on-field persona was, they thought that was the same dude. Literally. Because especially for you, it's, you guys are up there, and that's, like, I wasn't as, I could see what's up. I'm smaller. Y 'all are big, big dudes that are going against other grown men every single time. trying to impose your will on another man. You're trying to lift him, get him out your way. This is my space. He's trying to take your space. So you getting like, you feel like you're in a fight. You know what I'm saying? Every snap. We ain't in a fight, bro. You in a ruled out fight.

58:17James Harrison:You in a ruled out fight. Where you can't do certain things. Between the snaps, you're going hard. So that's how like, when you got to kind of like, dudes on the end of the day that look a little crazy, you got to be a little crazy. Because you're running, smacking to another man full speed. And when we were thinking about, You got Debo thinking the same thing I'm saying. Sleep trying to put you to bed. Yeah. Like I said, the persona is a good thing, it's a bad thing. And especially now, it was a good thing, it's a bad thing. Because now, us being on this podcast, I'm getting way more people approaching it now.

58:52You know what I'm saying? Like my normal resting, like kill a nigga face, it don't work no more. You know what I'm saying? Like, I used to be able to walk through the airport and just had a face on with nobody. No, for sure.

59:05James Harrison:Like, he looks like he doesn't want to be bothered right now. Nah, man. Nah, like, I see you laughing, smiling. Yeah, even back then when, like, they didn't know, they would send the kid. So, they send the kid up there to get the conversation started, you know, to test the waters. I see, you know, like, hey, if he dog my kid out, I know I ain't got a shot. So, I'm going to back up. You know what I'm saying? But now, dude, I just get anybody coming up to me. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, damn, that look I had ain't scary. No, bro. That ain't stop you from approaching me. They see you laughing now, D-Bo.

59:38James Harrison:They see. They like, oh, this man. I got a softer side. Bro, I might have to stop the podcast, man. I don't know, bro. Somebody had to give, bro. I'm going to have to come up on here crazy and just tear something up. I don't know. You already exposed now. Hey, bro, like put him to sleep. Joe, I ain't gonna lie to you, man. Forgive me for this, though. Forgive me, man. I ain't gonna lie. If I knew back then, like I said, I wouldn't have saved me. That they was gonna find me like that. You said you would have gave him 100 %? Bro, I'd have tried to take him up out of here. I already know. Bro, I'd have tried to take him up out of here.

1:00:14James Harrison:I already know you would have. That like, ooh, we ought to try to take him up out of here, man. Because I was trying. Peace to the planet. Charlamagne Tha God here. And listen. We are back. The Black Effect Podcast Festival is back in Atlanta on April 25th at Pullman Yard. Yeah. And the full lineup is nuts. We got the Grits and Eggs podcast, Deontay Kyle and Big Ice Cup Cat. We got Club 520 with Jeff Teague and the gang. Yeah, yeah. Don't call me white, girl. Mona will be there. Keep it positive, sweetie, with Crystal Renee. We got Reality with the King with Carlos King. And yes, Drink Champs will be in the building.

1:00:50James Harrison:Okay. Plus, you know, we're going to have a lot of guests. So you need to join us. And we got the Black Effect Marketplace, the picture podcast, and everything you expect from the Black Effect Podcast Festival. Tickets are on sale right now. Go get yours at blackeffect.com slash podcast festival. Don't play yourself, okay? Pull up.

1:01:11I'm Nancy Glass, host of the Burden of Guilt Season 2 podcast. This is a story about a horrendous lie that destroyed two families. Late one night, Bobby Gumpright became the victim of a random crime. The perpetrator was sentenced to 99 years until a confession changed everything. I was a monster. Listen to Burden of Guilt Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This Women's History Month, the podcast Keep It Positive, Sweetie celebrates the power of women choosing healing, purpose and faith, even when life gets messy.

1:01:51James Harrison:Love is not a destination. You have to work on it every day. Keep It Positive, Sweetie creates space for honest conversations on self-worth, love, growth and navigating life with grace and grit, led by women who uplift, inspire and tell the truth out loud. I have several conversations with God and I know why it took 20 years. To hear this and more, listen to Keep It Positive, Sweetie, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It's the new me. And it's the old them. This Woman's History Month, the podcast If You Knew Better with Amber Grimes, spotlights women who turn missteps into momentum and lessons into power.

1:02:29James Harrison:My, like, tunnel vision of, like, I gotta achieve this was off the strengths of, like, I want to make a better life for us. If You Knew Better brings real talk from women who've lived it, unpacking career pivots, relationship lessons, and the mindset shifts that changed everything. Listen to If You Knew Better with Amber Grimes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The more you listen to your kids, the closer you'll be. So we asked kids, what do you want your parents to hear? I feel sometimes that I'm not listened to. I would just want you to listen to me more often and evaluate situations with me and lead me towards success.

1:03:06Listening is a form of love. Find resources to help you support your kids and their emotional well-being at SoundItOutTogether.org. That's SoundItOutTogether.org. Brought to you by the Ad Council and Pivotal. This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human.

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Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to Miami Dolphins WR Jaylen Waddle being traded to the Denver Broncos, newly acquired Pittsburgh Steelers WR Michael Pittman Jr. praising Will Howard and Mason Rudolph, expectation for Cleveland Browns QB Shedeur Sanders in his second season, the latest on Maxx Crosby's situation with the Las Vegas Raiders, and much more!

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Timeline:
00:00 - Intro
05:38 - Michael Pittman Jr on Will Howard 
10:00 - Shedeur Year 2 expectations
18:20 - Bengals improved defense
25:45 - Jaylen Waddle Traded to Broncos
35:55 - DeAndre Hopkins underutilized in Baltimore
39:30 - Maxx Crosby mending relationship with Raiders

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