Deebo & Joe - Part 1: When will Steelers pay Joey Porter Jr? + Drew Allar vs. Will Howard for QB2

25:31James Harrison:I can't have you out there running around, taking a chance on popping snob. No, no. A thousand percent. That's why I want you to go ahead and say that. Like, what are we talking about? I can't. I'll be. Now, if I'm the GM, I might be telling you a little bit of any and everything to get you to do something. I ain't going to lie to you. Yeah. But as, hey, nephew, man. Hell, his daddy, I bet you his daddy ain't telling him nothing about stepping on that field. Man, no. I do not. Do not. No. I'm for the Steelers, but I am not at the expense of my family losing in any possibility. He did it for the three years.

26:12James Harrison:That was the play. That's what you got. He got paid that$9 million from what he did at Penn State. The last three years is what he's getting this next contract for. So it's like that's why I'm feeling with him. You don't have to go onto the field because now you outplayed this contract that we're talking about right now, that rookie deal, that thing is basically shredded up because it's for, you know what I'm saying? Where are you sitting with the team now? Listen, what do you want him to do? He improved every year. He improved every year. Ain't gave up a tutty. Locked it down. What you want him to do, bro?

26:45James Harrison:What else? You want him to start like just maintaining the field or something? I don't know. That's why I believe that. Oh, I think I'm believing in the Steelers because they drafted him. He's homegrown and there's going to be a way to figure it out, Debo. I'm going to come with a way with how I think they could finagle it. But I know it's possible, bro. It can't not be. Okay. Hopefully, man. Like I said, the numbers, I don't see the numbers. That's the only thing I'm more worried about than anything else is I don't see where the numbers come at. So, you know, Mike McCarthy says as soon as he breaks camp that he was meeting with Will Howard and Drew Allard.

27:32James Harrison:I mean, sorry, Will Howard and Drew Allard. They have an actual little tweet here. But this is what I did, Joe. What'd you do? I had to go and look at it because it was from his – the tweet is in reference to his press conference yesterday. today. So, you know, you get a little better understanding than the tweet. You gotta go listen to the actual press conference. He's just saying, you know, he got two fine young quarterbacks there. And I think they broke camp early, too. And he's just probably meeting with them to I don't know. What do you think he's meeting with them for, Joe? What do you think he's meeting with his two young quarterback, Joe?

28:13James Harrison:What do you got going on? You know, just motivating them. Tell them that you know that he likes what he's saying keep it going keep keep fighting we got aaron rogers obviously you're not going to be this is just learn do what you got to do and be able to be ready when your number is called because we don't know if anything happens y 'all can be right up next so i think he just you know just a good coach hollering at his quarterbacks and with drew aller and with will howard i can tell just from what everybody's been talking about with penn state his footwork, his mechanics, just from the last thing, he just looks more comfortable.

28:47James Harrison:He looks like he's been working with somebody that's been helping him with his footwork, helping him with the mechanics, helping him to develop as a quarterback. So if we got Mike McCarthy, he knows he had A-Rod. He's been kicking him in for a long time. The thing is, if you got an offense running and you see these two young quarterbacks that you see some potential in, giving them a little pat on the back. Let them know like, boom, that's good. It's good to let them know, boom, I see you. You know what I'm saying? But like, there's definitely work to be done. But always, like, it's cool to have that, I think.

29:14James Harrison:So I think Martin McCarthy's doing a good job because he's a quarterback guy. The offense has been looking pretty good, and that's just what he does. If he didn't talk to the quarterbacks, it's cool. But your coach hollering at the quarterback, your young dudes that we see potential in, yes, coach. That's good. All good signs. Yeah, I ain't tripping on it. Everybody, you know, you got some people thinking that. They're trying to see who they're going to keep and release, boy. they just broke him. He going back. They asked him a question. Like, why did he even say it? Because you were talking about his quarterback.

29:50James Harrison:That's why he said it. Like, he was like, hey, yeah, I'm actually going to meet with both those guys, you know? Actually giving y 'all a little bit of insight. Actually trying to be cool. Let y 'all know what's up. Yeah, yeah. So, nah, it ain't nothing like that, man. Like, get over the... That ain't it. No, no, no. That ain't it. Keep them both. Who gonna be number two? man, look, you worry about the wrong thing. We got road camp early because the weather was having an issue. They know they got the indoor facility. They get down there and get some more work in. They can make it up instead of sitting there waiting, doing all the other stuff.

30:23James Harrison:You can get to a real indoor and get indoor over there wasn't sufficient. It's a walk-through indoor. It's a walk-through indoor. Yes. Yes. Definitely, definitely walk-through indoor. Speaking of indoor, oh, new domes. stadium revealed in close up photos and video. Yeah.

30:51James Harrison:Whatever. You can't even hate. Oh, I can hate. I know you're going to find a way to hate. I know you're going to find a... You saying I can't hate? You about to fire my dome up? You about to fire the dome up? Listen, Joe. What's up? Tell me what your thoughts is on the new stadium. Then I'm going to tell you what my thoughts are. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I want to hear you first, D-Bone. Uh-uh, uh-uh, uh-uh. Hell no. You tell me. Go ahead. Go ahead. Talk about our stadium. JoJo. JoJo. You tell me. Go ahead. Pop-o. What you don't like about it? Hey. Hey, Joe. You want to know what I don't like about the - Yeah, please.

31:29James Harrison:Come on. The new - We got time. Listen. Listen. The new Huntington Bank Field. Yes. it's going to be 67 ,000 plus sorry 67 ,000 plus seats it's set to open was it 2029 and it's currently 2.6 billion okay they are already talking about Cleveland now can have major events this and that final four major concerts Super Bowl we can have everything. Yep. You plan on turf. Anyway, but

32:14James Harrison:it's got that one. Listen, listen, that's a closed. It's a closed. If we were in a closed in space when we lost to you guys and when it was real cold up there in Cleveland, you're losing that home advantage that you have. So remember when Miami would come up and y 'all would be like, They over there shaking cold. Y 'all go lose that. Because if y 'all had a dome when we was up there, because we was cold, we would have won. But we was too cold to be able to focus. Y 'all was just so hyped that y 'all actually had a chance to win that y 'all just, y 'all couldn't feel the cold. You were just out there just blind.

32:54Like, you know, the stadium, bro, it's cool.

33:01James Harrison:It's fine. I mean, it's cool. I mean, I looked at the master plan that they got there and the designs, all that other stuff. And, you know, like. Joe. Yes. It's fire, bro. Listen, Joe. I might. Hey, listen. I might be going to the Steelers game when they play the Browns in Cleveland. For sure. Joe. Joe. It's a whole thing, Joe. They got like 1 ,888 units of residential living over there, Joe. They got 300 ,000 square feet of retail, restaurant, entertainment. And listen, 552 hotel rooms, bruh. Hey, this ain't just a stadium, bruh. This a whole thing, brother. This a real development. Hey, listen.

33:53James Harrison:It's a little city. I'm just trying to tell you, bruh. It's a little brown town. It's a little town they named Brownstown. It's not just the stadium. You might have to go and just have me a little apartment up there and rent it just for the two games. The game, the one game we come up there and, you know, just going to slap y 'all around. That way I can get what I do. You know what I'm saying? I can get, you know. This is the thing. This is the thing. The stadium ain't going to be here for two more years. And that's just right enough time for our team to be right where we need to be. Like we said, I heard Andrew Barry.

34:27James Harrison:The young people are getting right here. Hold on, hold on. Getting the draft picks. Boom. We're going to be solid. By that time, and now we're going to be able to host the Super Bowl there. We're going to be able to host the Final Fours there. And when we have the Super Bowl team, we're going to be able to play in our stadium, in Brownstown that they built right there. So look at you. You already want to pull up. You already want to come to Cleveland now. So we're just going to have so many more people, so many more eyeballs watching us when we're turning up and spanking people all over the stadium.

35:00James Harrison:Because, look, the Vegas Raiders stadium, all these new stadiums are unbelievable. Old school stadiums. Spanking who? Who y 'all going to beat? It's so nice. Look, they need all the metal seats, all that bull. Oh, it's old school football. I don't want to hear none of that. I'm bougie now. We're going to these nice stadiums. It's going to be good weather. And we're going to watch these people play on the best conditions. moving around. Full speed. Best on best. Good on good. Right here. And we're going to be putting belt to Tushy in that new stadium. Do you hear me? By that time, Harold... I don't even want to play football outside no more, man.

35:39James Harrison:When the next time we go build a stadium that ain't got a roof on it, man? I'm going to tell you right now. Whenever the Steelers get a new stadium, if it's a dome, we done. We cooked. It's still a weather out here. The weather is going to give it advantage. Okay, I respect it, for sure. The weather is, okay, an advantage. But if you're going to have best on best, if this just, meet me on an even territory, and I feel like, no, it's not no footing. It's not no slipping. No, if you beat me on this fade ball, it's because you're better than me. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's why I could, like, when you rock with the Super Bowl, being on, who, Newt, Newt, turn it, lining up, who, I'm in your chest.

36:16James Harrison:I'm not slipping on no, I ain't got any of these long cleats on now, looking crazy. Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh. Get a Super Bowl. And now you coming. Now we going to be in Cleveland. So you're saying we got to get a dome now. We got to get a dome now. No, no, no. You don't got to get a dome. We got to get a dome now. We want a Super Bowl, too. If y 'all want to host the Super Bowl. We want a Super Bowl, too. We ain't going to spend that much on our dome, though. We probably go make sure that ours is twice as good as y 'all's. We got to at least drop 5.7 million. Look, I'm going to tell you this stuff, Bebo.

36:45James Harrison:A lot to me. A billion. You had one point good. I would have preferred us to have grass, obviously. But... Can't have grass, Joe. Why not? Because it's easier to move turf than it is grass. Grass got to be a whole slab. You got to roll that thing in and out like they do with AZ. Like Arizona. Like the carers do it. The carers do it. They do it nice. Yeah, but see, they got that good weather outside all the time. You going to pull that grass out there. Pull that grass outside. You got the weather. You got the winter popping over there. And they got to be out there. They in there for a whole weekend.

37:18James Harrison:and y 'all got a game on. It's over. The grass dead. We need a dome just to hold the grass. Now y 'all tripping. That's crazy. Yep, yep. That's why he did turf. That's true. That's why he did turf. So they don't have to do nothing like that. You got to do nothing. Like, do whatever you want to do. Just... I don't tell anybody's though, man. Yes, yes, yes. It is. It's a little bit. It's a little bit. It's a little bit. A little bit. What was your favorite stadiums to play in? What was your... You have any? I ain't really had none. I ain't gonna lie to you. I ain't gonna lie to you. I love playing in the Browns Stadium.

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43:39James Harrison:It was the new, bro, it was our division. The division that lit. Divisional games, listen, man. Like, we used to sit over there and wait. be like, hey man, they about to introduce Ray. Watch Ray. Watch Ray when he come out. Listen, bro. Ray come out there. They on turf. Ray come out to three songs. First song Ray come out to is like dun, dun, dun. And then they pop to the other song. When they pop to the other song, they done put a piece of real grass down there for him. Yes. He reached down in the box, grabbed the grass, and they hit the other song then when he grabbed the grass. And then, before he go and hit the dance, they pop it to another one, then he hit that.

44:23James Harrison:Bruh, we be over there. Oh, they working. He working with the DJ. Bruh, we be over there so hype, bruh. Bruh, we be over there hype. Like, hype. I know, I got to see that part. The boys found that out. I told you before, them boys found that out after the 2008 Super Bowl that we won. Man, I don't think we heard the defense brought out again when we played them up there. It might have been one time, bro. No, for sure. Because you were just watching. But that, he would get me, he would get us hyped up. Mm-hmm. There's no fear. It's like, it's okay. Oh, it's a real live game now. Real, listen, I'm like, hey, we used to tell the rookies, watch, watch when Ray come out.

45:04James Harrison:Watch Ray come out. And then they stopped introducing and we like, man, come on, what they doing? We ended up talking to, talking to Ed Reed and Sizzle. They was like, yeah, they stopped that, man. They ain't letting y 'all get that. Mm-hmm. Oh, man. Before the games, bro, that national anthem, before that thing started, I used to have my little moment every game. That's when I would just really get myself together, like, the respect of, damn, I'm in the league. That would happen every single national anthem. When I'm standing, I'm like, it's okay. I would have my little, my moment, bro. Literally, D-Bo, I was, like, getting myself right together.

45:36James Harrison:Just the humbling, like, I made it. You know what I'm saying? I feel like every time that would happen, it's not just the national anthem, was just like standing there looking across like, it's a whole other squad. We in the league. I'm like, that never got over. You was crying, Joe? I ain't going to lie to you. I ain't did that one. I did. I do. I'm thinking about it. See, I'm on that. I usually - You're on straight demon time, but I was on demon time - I'm trying to see who I can sleep on the first kickoff. I'm trying to see who I can sleep. See, you ready? Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yes. I'm ready to go.

46:11James Harrison:Yeah. I was too. But when I stood on the line, then I was like, okay, yeah, it's game time. And then I got back right.

46:22James Harrison:Oh, man. Listen. The Browns rookie wide receiver, Casey Concepcion, he said he take a little pride in not being tackled by cornerbacks. Joe, listen. A little jet sweep. My dog Ty, you know, he had a basic block for me. He set the edge. I take pride in never being tackled by a cornerback. So, you know, I saw the edge, you know, you know, I fought through the tackle. I kept my balance. You know, my score. Hey. Hey. What's up? Hey, Joe, I got to ask you this question. What's up, man? How do you feel about that as a quarterback, okay, that played in the league or is playing in the league? And how do you feel about that as a Browns fan?

47:41James Harrison:Because I'm going to assume they might be a little different. As a Browns fan, this is exactly what I need to hear. the mentality the dog the like feeling like the dbs can't hold you they're small they're not trying to tackle this is how you're going to treat them so as a brown fan i'm loving the mentality like keep that going you know i'm saying like that's going to be your edge you know i love it because when you got that pump return you are looking like you're looking real like you just need the ball in your hands and you're gonna make something happen exactly like i expected you're catching the ball with your hands, going across the middle, you don't look scared or nothing.

48:21James Harrison:And that was super athletic. To bend the corner, put your hands down on the ground, and get in the end zone. My man KC, I know he looked like he played basketball. He looks athletic. He's done some stuff before. So as a Browns fan, thank you, KC Concepcion. This is the type of energy we need and continue to produce, continue to do that. I love his energy. I love his mindset. As a DB. Oh, you got me messed up, coach. As a cornerback, how do you feel? cornerback, you've gotten messed up. Because for me, he's basically saying you're too little for me. It needs to be at least a linebacker or safety, somebody that's over victim weight.

49:01James Harrison:If you're under 200, basically what he's saying is you're not going to be able to tackle me. I'm loving his mindset, KC, but for sure as a DB, as a corner, if you're a hitter, if you're not scared to turn down some... If you're not scared of the dirty part of your job, oh, you want all the smoke. So that's how I feel as a DV. But as a receiver, that mentality, that dog, that Debo Samuel, that you're not going to be able to take me down because you're smaller, I can respect it. I like it. But just know, for me, I'm going to have to take you down, coach. I'm going to have to take you down. And I'm not low and low because we're the same size.

49:36James Harrison:If we're the same size, I'm hitting you up top, pork chop. Up top, pork chop. Boom. Joe. But I like all that. I like all that. I like all that. I'm letting every cornerback know in the NFL that he just said, can't none of y 'all tackle him. He like putting y 'all to shame. He like putting y 'all all to shame. He done said this after one preseason game. Chill out, Big Bell. That's what he done said. He done said that, hey, any corner, any corner in the NFL, Browns, the Browns rookie, Casey Concepcion said, he'll take pride in running your boys over and making sure you can't tackle him because you're victim.

50:15James Harrison:Don't put words in his mouth. He takes pride. I'm reading in between the lines. You let me do my job.

50:27You understand?

50:29James Harrison:You let me do my job. This is what I do. Yeah, you definitely. Your Browns. Hold up. What's up? Your DN, Jerry Verse. Hey, you know what? What's up? You know what he said about the fight with your boy, what is it, Fanny? Yeah. What did he say? Go ahead. Play the sound. I don't think it goes over the edge at all. I think fighting is necessary when you get to football. You have to have that edge. I talk crazy. I'm very disrespectful when it comes to the way I compete, especially when I try to drive my teammates to another level. So I wouldn't expect him any less than to retaliate because that's the type of player he is.

51:05James Harrison:He's a very magnificent player. And going against him, you know, he's gotten so much better. in these past couple of weeks. Interesting. It's been a month. I don't even know camp's been running all along. But, you know, in the time we've been together, he's gotten so much better. And, you know, because he's getting better, he's getting to the point where I'm starting to learn things from him. I'm starting to learn a little bit about my tendencies and what he's picking up on. So it's making me a better player as well. That boy got hard. I mean, a lot of rookies were going through a situation, you know, against me, against, you know, top edges in the league and stuff and kind of back down, kind of like, you know, being a little nervous, a little bit timid.

51:33James Harrison:But no, he has never shown that. Hey, Joe. Yeah. Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. He said, you know, that's what you need to do, all that good stuff. Boo, boo, boo. You know, he wouldn't expect nothing left. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hold on, Joe. Magnificent player, blah, blah, blah. Joe, you tell me. What do you think? What do you think? You like this, Joe? I don't like this. I love this, Debo. You love this. I love this. Do you know why? Why? Because real recognize real. And it don't take long for you to know if you got a dog on the offensive line or you got a puppy on the offensive line. And other, Jerry Burst, he knows because he's been in the league long enough to go against real tackles, real dudes.

52:21James Harrison:He's been able to try to bully people. You heard what he said. I talk crazy to people. I talk disrespecting. I'm like this. Okay, you got that dog. I've known a lot of players that go out there and just talk ridiculous. You know what I'm saying? But you got to be able to back it up. Don't just be out there talking and getting thrown around. You look crazy. Jerry Versa, you're not getting thrown around. You talk as much trash as you want. That's how you play your game, and I love it. Bring that energy to the field, sacks, strip sacks, all that. So when he's going smack at Fanning, he's going to see, like, oh, no, he's not backing down.

52:54James Harrison:He's not no sucker, and he's coming back. I would expect nothing less from a dog. And now he's like, oh, he's learning all my tendencies because he's saying, if you're playing against a tackle that's now you're going back at him, you're going hard, you're giving him your best stuff. And he's now learning a little bit. He's a first-round pick for a reason. He's going to be our starting tackle. And he's saying that, oh, he's got some stuff to where he's learning how I'm moving. So that's the iron sharpening iron when you were going against a good receiver. I don't care if he's a rookie or if he's seven years in.

53:24James Harrison:If he's running some stuff, he's like, I've seen this when you shoot your hand like that. I'm like, okay, bet. If you can start giving them a little game, that's a real game. It don't matter how long you've been in the league. If you come in there respectfully, doing your job, and when other vets see that you're good, you're doing a good job, you're actually like, you know what you're doing, you're out here handling your business, they respond differently. So I love this because it's iron on iron, you need good on good. Your best players are going to fight the other best players because it's offense versus defense at this point.

53:53James Harrison:We're going at each other. We're not really friends. we don't have the other team to be our competition. So you know how that gets? Good on good. Your best players go fight each other. Your best players go fight each other, Joe. I mean, look. You know what's so crazy about that, Joe? Not always, you both. But you know what I'm saying. You know how it gets. I understand what you're saying, Joe. But Joe, he said retaliate. He said the man had to retaliate. He understand. He said, I can understand that. Yeah. But what I can't understand is why he would do something that he would have to retaliate against him for.

54:46James Harrison:You know, so you're telling me that you did something to your own teammate that required that response because it's the only logical response that would happen, especially in our business for whatever it is that he did. So. What he did don't sound like it was football. that's what it sounds like to me because if it's football you play you hit you go you win you lose you turn around for the next play so this don't sound smart to me joe as a leader of this team that uh you would purposely cause a dangerous situation to unfold that could possibly get him and the other player or one of his other teammates hurt in the process because you're doing something like fighting an act that would get you suspended in a game.

55:58James Harrison:I don't know, Joe. That sounds brownish to me. What do you think? You acting like you didn't see the Steelers during training camp, fist to cuffs. You're acting like you don't see everybody. You do, Debo. Now you're lying through your teeth. Now you're lying through your teeth. Sometimes now, tensions can flare and at the end of the day, these players... You're a liar. We don't do that. You're lying through your teeth right now to me. And I can't believe it because you know, Debo. You know that boy out there throwing them hands at the Steelers training camp. the same way. Don't look me in my eyes.

56:37James Harrison:I'm looking you in your eyes, Joe. Tell me now that you're not seeing the fight. I'm looking you in your eyes, Joe. You're lying. You're lying. I'm looking right at you, Joe. We will. I'm just going, okay, yeah. You know that. So sometimes it takes a little, and you know, he's not fighting in the game. He knows that you're going to get kicked out. You know you're going to get suspended. You know, and that's the thing. The coach is going to break it up. It's going to be what it is. you can do this. I'm just saying, Joe, we didn't do that, Joe. We didn't do that. We didn't do that at Steelers. You're a liar, Debo.

57:12James Harrison:I was there. Who fought? The Cuffs. Who was fighting? I don't even know. I'm not snitching like that. I'm just telling you it was happening. You can't say no names? No. You can't say you're... No. No. You going to sit here and tell me I'm lying now? I ain't seen no fighting. They was inside most of the time. We was there. I ain't seen nothing. Okay. No, no, no. I'm not talking about this camp. I'm talking about we was there. I'm talking about when I was playing when you was playing yeah I don't know about that but I will say this uh that was the last year that I was there so I don't really um okay alrighty bro I'm not gonna incriminate you and I'm not trying to incriminate myself but I'm just saying people know that people box that people box sometimes at training camp and it's not even a real box it's a fake joint because people got their helmets on and they could literally hurt themselves.

58:03James Harrison:They look kind of nuts, but it's not really even a boxing match. Why are you punching a helmet? That's the craziest thing in the world. They look crazy, Deebo. But so you know. So I'm telling you, you know. I'm going to break my hand punching a helmet. Are y 'all crazy? Like, that don't, you done lost your scruples. You're going to punch a helmet, Joe. When teenager Joy Morgan discovered the religious group Israel United in Christ, she believed she'd found the truth. Many believe she found a cult. Then she disappeared. The new podcast, The Missing Sister, explores her story, the family she left, and the religious group she found.

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