Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Are Shedeur Sanders Trade Rumors Real? + Joe Thomas on Myles Garrett Trade

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3:29Hall of Fame, Joe T. Yes. Hall of Fame. First ballot. First ballot. First ballot. No question, man. Crazy word. I guess he, you know, he went on and said that Miles Garrett, trade was right decision. He probably did that after he talked to me and saw what I was, you know, I think we got some sound. We got a sound? We got sound? Yeah, I mean, I think the news came out. It probably caught a lot of people by surprise. I knew there was always going to be a chance that the Browns traded miles, just knowing the situation they're in and the valuable asset that they had. But for Cleveland fans, you know, it's tough, right?

4:03Because for several of those seasons that miles was here in Cleveland, he was like the one thing we got to cheer for, right? Last year out of the playoff hunt for a long time, but it gave us a reason to be proud as Browns fans to see him chasing that sack record and to finally get it and just see the commitment that he had on the field to his team and to the city. It was incredible. So it was really hard to hear that he was traded, but it hurts everybody that Miles is not a Brown anymore, but I'm not willing to accept the fact that we're only allowed to think that our ceiling as Browns fans is the cheer for a player who's having a good season or breaking a record.

4:38Like, I don't want to lose sight of the fact that we're still here to try to win championships. And when you look at the Miles trade to be able to get a great young player like jared verse who's a tremendous pass rusher who's a great asset to that team he's on a friendly contract saving money they're getting three draft choices for miles first second and a third like it puts us in a much better position for the next two three four years as we're in this building phase so as you step away from the emotion of losing miles you realize like this puts the team in a much better situation moving forward and it was the right decision, even though it hurts.

5:13Joseph. Yes. Right decision, Joe, even though it hurts. I was telling you that, Joe. Man, listen. I was telling the Joes, man. Joe Thomas sound like Joe Hayden. No question. We sound the same. Hey. Joe Thomas was there during the times, and he speaks from being a Browns fan, legitimately, and a Browns Hall of Fame player. So who else to understand what he's talking about? First ballot. First ballot. First ballot. Joe Thomas is not one to play. The man was a GOAT in Cleveland. And so he understands what it is. He understands from the fans' perspective and from Myles Garrett's perspective. He understands where the team is right now from a fan side of you being able to root for your team.

6:01You have Myles Garrett on your team, Cleveland Browns. Defensive player of the year, 23 sacks. So you always want to have the best players on your team. No, because you only want to have the best players on your team. That's a fan. That's a fan. When you go to the game, when you go to the game, it doesn't – No, no, that's not all the matter. It doesn't hurt, though. No, I'd rather have a whole average team than give you a championship every game. It doesn't hurt. We like this. We got Miles. Let's go score on offense, and he still gets some sacks, and we still could win. Not getting rid of Miles is going to help us win the game.

6:29I did win. Y 'all won five games. I understand that. I understand that, but because that's why I'm trashed. Shut up, T-Bo. That's why. Did you hear that? I'm sorry, Joe. Yeah, I did. Your mic is right there. Your mic is right there. Oh, sorry. So when Joe Thomas says these things, he's speaking out of both sides. He's speaking from where he's a fan of the Browns, and you see where you wanted to have Miles and what he's done for us. And then from without Miles, what we can still get. We still get verse. We still get a friendly contract. We can still get money that we can use. We still get draft picks for the future.

7:05Because right now, Miles on the team with those 23 sacks wasn't getting us nothing but those five wins that you keep talking about. So we're going to eventually have to make a change where we can get more players. Jared Burst can fit in the line. Defense can start working. Offensive pieces. Draft picks can hopefully start balling in different positions that we need that the defense are in. Those 23 sacks weren't getting us all the wins that we needed. so let's just try to get more so in the sudden time it sucks you know what i'm saying right you know you know you know what else might suck joe losing a lot of games joe joe that that that sucks y 'all get used to that that's not a problem that's not but you know what else might suck joe the browns are looking at trading shador uh according to espn uh cleveland's tony rizzo the browns are getting trade calls on shador on sanders the radio host also said he believes the Browns will not enter training camp with their quarterback room as is.

8:03There are talks, ongoing calls about the availability of Shador Sanders, Rizzo said, before adding, I'm going to say right now, for the record, I don't think four quarterbacks are going to camp on July 28th. Nothing is imminent, but calls are being made, Rizzo adds. Joe, Joe, who is this? What's up with this? Is the radio chatter real? What's going down? Did you talk to anybody? Yahoo is saying, Like, if they do look at trading, it's the Jets, the Dolphins, Cardinals, and Bucks might be a landing spot for my man. Joe, what's going on, Joe? Are you okay? Huh? Your Wi-Fi frees up? What? This right here, Debo.

8:50Yes, I love when you do that. Pisses me off. This right here pisses me off, Debo. Why, Joe? Joe. Why? Because this is the stuff I'm talking about where in the day, hopefully, okay. It's not okay, Chad. If it's just radio chatter, okay. But why can't we be happy for a second that we have a quarterback? And now we're talking about trading. Shadou, we haven't even got a chance to see if he can play. We've been looking for a quarterback. Hey, Joe, let me stop you for a second right here. I'm going to let you get back on it. But I just want to stop you for a second because this actually brings me back to what we were talking about just a couple of days ago, Joe.

9:37How now Shador has got so much better and he's fighting for the position of starter. Was this an attempt to raise his trade stock, Joe? Are you guys, is your GM so diabolical he would do that? Joe? Huh? Joe? What's going on, Joe? Are you okay? Joseph? Joseph? I don't know. I think it's just, I hope, I hope, I hope it's just radio talk. I hope that it's just talking just because we don't have nothing else to talk about because it's still preseason as it came and they're just talking about your story because they always talk about your story. What y 'all are saying? Why would your ESPN Cleveland totally—why would he just go and say that out of nowhere, brother?

10:33Why would that be a thing? Like, they're receiving calls. I don't know. You don't know. Nobody's saying that about any other— They're not saying we're receiving calls about— Things come up all the time. Things come up all the time. I just hope and pray that if they really do this and the Steelers really get—I mean, and the Browns really get rid of Shador, I'm

10:59I would lose complete faith, Debo. I would lose faith. Lose complete faith. Just because this is the thing. Hold up, Joe. Listen. You would lose complete faith, Joe? This is what I'm saying. That's supposed to be your squad. Your A1. Because this is what I'm saying. Hey, your GM. I'm going to I'm hoping this is what I'm hoping this is not really going to happen because if we were to end up trading... Hey Joe, hold up. Let me stop for a second. Let me stop for a second. The GM hat on real quick. They say I want to give you a second or a first for Shador. What you doing? No. No. No. That's the fan hat.

11:43That's the fan hat. Take that shit off. Why the fuck would I? Because I feel like he's a franchise quarterback. Ooh. Hey, y 'all, Joe is really pissed off. Go ahead, man. But why would that? I feel like he's a franchise quarterback. I feel like we still haven't gave him a chance to be a quarterback. I'm a dumbass, Joe. I don't know why. I'm sorry. He can do everything. I'm sorry. Go ahead, Joe. Mr. Hayden. What do you think? They give me a one or a two. I'm trading as a... I'm a GM, Joe. I'm trading damn near anybody over there for a one or a two. but how do you know 5-12 record? What you gonna do?

12:23This is what I'm saying. If you trade if you trade him for a 1 or a 2 okay, you gonna go are you gonna go draft? You gonna suck this year anyway. We don't have, but let's I'm saying we as if I was a Browns fan. I'm the GM. I done already prefaced this. I'm GM of the Browns. That's like, hey, Barry is cooking and right now he cooked up a story. He cooked up a story that his head coach went along with and said, we got a controversy. Shador didn't improve so much. We can't say. Watson can take it. We got to wait to training camp. Raise the stop. Raise the stop. Raise the stop. Hey, who want it? Jets?

13:11Miami? That's what you're saying. They just trying to raise his... I'm not saying, I'm not saying, I'm not saying, I'm saying that's what it could. I'm just saying. You know me, I think, Joe. This is what I'm trying to say. This is the only thing I want to ask about the Browns fans too, right? You no longer a Browns fan? The Browns fans. If you don't think Shador Sanders is the quarterback, okay, then you want to move forward, whatever. Why not give him a true valid chance with weapons around him to go out here and see what we can do? And then if this season doesn't work, then we don't have him.

13:49We drafted him. You ended up getting him. And I thought he'd get him in the first round pick. We got him in the fifth round. He ended up outplaying Dylan Gabriel, obviously. Dylan Gabriel got the first shot. Didn't look as good as Shador did when he got his chances. And still with Kevin Stefanski, the coaches wasn't really rocking. I think if you have somebody that's trying to give you opportunity, wants to help you out, like Cam Ward had in Tennessee. Coaches want to succeed, their players succeed. So I think with Todd Munkin now, he's going to be able to at least give him a chance to succeed.

14:21You want your players on your team to succeed. So Deshaun Watson is going to have his best chance to succeed. And Shador Sanders is also going to have his best chance to succeed. Browns, we do have a quarterback. We had Deshaun there. I don't think he's going to be a guy. But we do have a quarterback under a rookie contract with weapons that we're trying to get around him. Why not? Let's see what he can do. We've been drafting quarterbacks. We got Green. We drafted Dylan and Shador last year. So we're going to, obviously, after this season, we can get another quarterback in the next draft if Shador isn't the guy.

14:52But why not? Let's see. We got him. We have a quarterback that's been working, that's been trying to be a franchise. We had so many different quarterbacks that aren't the guy. Like, give this one a true, valid shot because he did do all that stuff in college. The quarterback that we're looking to get from Texas Tech that threw for 2 ,400 yards, that did all of the gambling, that we're looking to go get him. You're a gambler. DeGeneres. Shador threw for way more yards and touchdowns to him in college. And the only thing he didn't do was interview well. He wasn't nice to people when they asked him questions.

15:26So that's his bad thing. So get the fuck out of here. Let me see what he's talking about out here on the football field. And then if he doesn't improve on what I saw him doing last year, like the...

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19:51His godly presence. You know what I'm saying? It's not aligned right now. And right now, that was our Lord and Savior saying, hold up. Slow down, son. Get it together. He go get it together. He go get it together. He go come back. And he'll have time to go and say, you know, have a conversation with lori saver say you know what i was out of pocket i let my emotions the i let the browning of a possible situation that would be browned get me out of character and i think he's going to come back and he's going to realize that he has a right to be upset his expression of those feelings could be a little less demonstrative, I should say.

20:50And I think when he comes back, we're going to have a more light PG conversation. you know, put her GM hats on, you know, with the side of a, you know, of a fan hat for Joe. And, you know, see what's really, what's really going on. But for right now, what we're going to do is figure out, like, the Jets. Who the Jets got? The Dolphins? Who the Dolphins got? Cardinals? I mean, who they got? And then the Bucs, I don't see – I don't know about the Bucs. The Bucs is one where they already got a dude sitting there. They got Baker Mayfield sitting there. I don't know about the Bucs. So, but the Jets, that could be a possibility.

21:46It could be a possibility. I mean, Cardinals just – they just stripped – they just shipped their boy off. I just don't see anybody giving up anything in the realm of – if it's not at least a two or a one, I ain't taking it.

22:05I just don't, yeah, I don't see, I don't see any of them teams giving up that much for him. And I'm not taking that little if I'm Andrew Barrett. So I just, I can't, I can't, I can't fathom that. We'll get back to when Joe gets here, but I want to, I want y 'all to check out the, I guess he's still the 49ers receiver. He's still with the 49ers. Brandon, I, you know, I can't say that man's land. Ayuk or something like that. He wants everybody to know. Here we go. Check out the video. Chat. Look at this thing. Man, what's up, everybody? I had a great Father's Day. And before I lay down and go to bed tonight, I just wanted to say, go, commanders.

22:55Go, commander, man. Go, commanders. Raise hell. Take command. man, fuck you talking about. Yeah, I don't know what's up with him. And then the wild, I think George Kittle, he issued, I guess you could say, warning to any teams interested in signing Brandon. We had that sound too. Listen. The last time I saw Ayuk was, call it week six, seven, or eight. I don't really know. But I used to make it a habit of mine to go out early in the morning before meetings to watch him train because he always got there early. and I watched him run over 22 miles an hour and stop on a dime so he still got it um or at least you know that was a year I mean eight months ago so I don't really know but um yeah you guys have fun with that I guess yeah thank you that's perfectly put I'm gonna have a lot of fun with that all right so have fun with that um I don't I don't know if he was telling them like have fun with that information I just gave you, or it was subliminal to anybody that may be thinking about possibly doing something to acquire him in a trade or something from the 49ers, whatever that may be.

24:15I know they said distillers. No, it's not happening. Don't even worry about it. We don't do that. We're not going to do that.

24:26So for me, I would have to just stay away from it. It's just too, the behavior is just too erratic. Like you don't know what you're getting from one day to the next. I don't know if it's just because he's trying to get out of there, trying to get them to release him or let him go. I think it would be a better way to to try and do it without you making yourself look as if you got maybe a little more going on than what is. What is necessary to communicate that I just want to get out of here like. With the. I don't know, it's overboard. That's it. Yeah, it's overboard. It's just it's just a little overboard to try and try and get out of here.

25:16I think especially with the last one with the I forgot what was it the belt he was they was gonna get the belt I don't know what did he say was it the belt or the bag the dude messed up which one was what was he saying was he saying the dude get the belt or get the bag they go get the bag or they gotta get the belt it was the belt he said bag I think it was belt which one was it I don't remember. Anyway, whatever dude wrote, it was wrong. And the understanding that I got was sort of a loose cannon right now, I would say. And to acquire that to your team right now, that don't make no sense. I don't see anybody putting him in that room with the behaviors that we've seen over the course of the last few weeks, the posts and everything else.

26:27Listen, it don't matter. But did Joe come back yet? Was that Joe? He ain't back yet? Okay. I'm going to jump on over here real quick. I guess we got a little bit of soccer. We got a record broke in World Cup soccer yesterday.

26:50So, well, football, as they call it globally. Messi. Is that how you say it? Messi? Messi got Messi and broke a record. Yeah. I guess he is now the all-time leading goal scorer in World Cup history with 18 career goals. Messi has been the highest jersey sales for the last three years. Over a million sold each year. Wow. Damn, I knew I should have played a different sport. I knew I should have gotten to some soccer. Six of his 2022 World Cup jerseys sold. What? sold for seven,