Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Baker Mayfield to Steelers? + Joel Bitonio Retires

24:07They got road tax for driving on the road.

24:11James Harrison:But guess what? The man got the bag. Okay, he got the bag, and he about to be paying$20 a gallon.

24:23James Harrison:I love L.A. I don't. I don't. I can't go there for no longer than one day, Joe. years. Because after that one day, I'm in debt. I got to get home and work for the next two months to get out. See, there you go. Why you got to do so much? You could just ride around. Window shopper. The gas is going to kill me. I ain't buying nothing, Joe. I got to sleep somewhere. You want me to sleep on the streets? No, Deebo. I got a crib. See, I had a crib. You could have kind of stayed at the crib. I didn't know you then. There you didn't. See, I would have had You live in LA. I still ain't got them shoes you was talking about back in 2017.

25:06James Harrison:I did end up getting you some shoes. I did get you some shoes. You got them. I got you some shoes. I got everybody's shoes. I did. See, don't be lying. Don't be lying. Where the shoes at, Joe? I don't know. You got them. I gave them to everybody. I wasn't there. You came out for Christmas? I wasn't there. I was in New England. See? See? Okay. See? Okay. You're right then. Y 'all kicked out the playoffs and I was going to the Super Bowl.

25:46James Harrison:Hey, at least they had Jays, though. At least everybody had Jays, though. Everybody had their Jays, though. On the way to the airport, everybody had their Jays. listen bro hey what's up Kyler Murray man JJ are competing for the quarterback for the Vikings quarterback job so Kyler Murray he on a one year deal McCarthy is entering his third year and Justin Jefferson dude he had some high words to say about McCarthy he said He understands the game. He understands the defense. He understands just how to put touch on the ball just enough to where it gets to where it's got to go without making it difficult for us.

26:37So he understands the game a lot more just because he's been in the game for a couple years now. Am I mic still working? Did I mess it up? Yeah, you're good. So he kind of throws the ball before you even get out of that break. Throws you open for sure. He's a smart guy. He's a competitor just like me. Joe. Joe. Yes, sir. Yeah. Hey, what you hear? You know me because you know me. I always read between lines, Joe. What you hear, Joe? Tell me what that sound like to you, Joe.

27:17James Harrison:it sounds like he it sounds like he wanted that to be his QB that's what it sounds like to me it sounds like man throwing them open it sounds like he don't know how he hasn't been thrown open too many times before um when you're talking about his throwing them before he comes out of his breaks it just sounds like a vet veteran quarterback when I went when I came over from the Browns to the Steelers and I started but I'm not trying to put Kyler Murray and Ben's at all. But Ben, when you had a quarterback like that, he's throwing the ball to spots where people need to be to the spot. When he's saying throwing people open, if somebody's on you on the top shoulder and you put it to the back shoulder, like just a regular quarterback, you have to play a ball placement and you got to be able to read.

27:59James Harrison:You're looking off the linebacker. You want him to go short so then the dig can open up behind you. So you look down and then you throw it to the dig. So there's like you're manipulating the defenses. You're throwing people open. You're throwing comebacks, when they come out of the break, the ball is already out towards the sideline. So now he just got to throw his hands out, put his feet in. The ball's already here. So I think he's just saying that the vet presence of him putting the ball in places where I don't have the younger quarterbacks waiting. I have to see him open before I throw the ball.

28:29James Harrison:You cannot do that in the National Football League. You have to be able to expect him to be in a spot and throw it time and be able to put it in a spot before the dude gets there. So for me, it sounded like Jefferson is saying that my other man's, the other quarterback, the backup wasn't doing it. And that Colin Murray is showing up some stuff he likes. The backup? You made the man the backup already? I mean, look, the quarterback that we're in competition with, JJ. Oh, you mean the starter from last year? Yeah. You said backup. Yo, listen, I'm reading in between the lines. I'm a man who like to read in between lines because it's not always about the words you say.

29:10It's about the words you don't say. It's not about the things you say. It's about the things you don't say. Okay. Okay. By the things he said and by the things he didn't say, it sound like J.J. might be out there at OTAs doing that same stuff he was doing last year during the season. Because he didn't give any. he's doing this and doing that and you know what JJ is he's actually doing the same thing so it's nope that ain't that ain't sound like it you know Murray's still still youngest for a quarterback with 29 he don't turn 29 to August yeah so and and and Jefferson said you know it'd be nice to have the same quarterback for a couple years this might be the opportunity to say had the same quarterback for a couple years he obviously saying that my quarterback ain't gonna be the same quarterback from last year already.

30:05He's saying that without saying it. It'd be nice to have a same quarterback for a couple years. Well, if he thought it was going to be the same quarterback from last year, it'd be a couple years right now, right? I'm just saying. I'm just saying.

30:21James Harrison:You know what he's saying? He's liking Kyler Murray. That's what he's saying. He's putting the ball. He's throwing him open. Yes, sir. I mean, when he starts saying that and he's not saying that. I mean, maybe the question was, what is Kyler Murray showing us? Maybe he didn't even have to bring up J.J. You know what I'm saying? You don't have to put up one man to put the other one down. You know what I'm saying? Maybe that. But still, he understands the game. He understands the defense. I understand that, but touch on the ball. Don't all good quarterbacks do that? Obviously, this is something that he hasn't been used to seeing.

31:00and he's excited about it. Yeah.

31:04James Harrison:Basically, Debo, I'm just trying to not... He's saying he likes... You trying to not tell the truth?

31:12James Harrison:No, I'm telling the truth. You trying not to read into something? No, I already told... I put my man on the bench almost. Exactly. You know what I'm saying? What you mean? I'm trying to let him know. I'm trying to let him know easily how I think he's going down. Justin Jefferson, best receiver, just kind of made Kyler Murray the starter. So I think you make, JJ, you might go to the bench. No question, brother. Yeah, let's check out these snaps. Let's take out these super chats. Covenant Life. Covenant Life back. Hold up. We got a number on there. Where is that? Y 'all ain't put the number on there.

31:47I'm going to have to go over here to the chat, y 'all. I'm going to have to scroll down right here, baby. We got Covenant Life. $19. She said, y 'all probably don't realize But the joy and laughter you can bring, the joy and laughter you bring can reach people on days they're barely holding it together. Thank you for being more than just athletes and for giving people moments that generally matter. Thank you, Covenant Life.

32:13James Harrison:Thank you, Covenant Life. She's talking about me, my laughter, Joe. They used to see you. No, no, no. My laughter. Covenant Life, tell them who you're talking about. Who? Who? Go ahead. It's going to piss you off, too. She's going to say me. I know she ain't going to say you. It's all good. I know she ain't going to say you. Look here. My last. We got Stillers-LoyalMac. Stillers-LoyalMac. $10. Said the Stillers, should the Stillers trade Mason? Ain't nobody going to trade with Mason Rudolph. Should the Stillers trade Mason? I don't know why I said that. I don't know why I said that a lot. Listen, let me start on.

32:50Should the Stillers trade Mason Rudolph, and will Will Howard be the number? and make Will Howard the number two and Drew Aller the number three? Or are the Steelers trying to trade Heisman? I don't know about trading Heisman. They already said they got a way to work that out. See, I'll be stopping in the middle of stuff and talking. What part of the defense has you the most hyped? So should the Steelers trade Mason Rudolph and make Will Howard the number two and Drew Aller the number three? and are the Steelers trying to trade Highsmith? What part of the defense has you most hyped? So for me, they're not going to trade Mason Rudolph because I don't think we can get anything for him, to be honest.

33:41Who are they going to make? One and two, I think, will depend on who does the best in OTA's training camp and all that. and trading Highsmith is not going to happen because they just paid

33:59Herbert and I feel like he's going to it's going to be a transition over the next couple years where we keep that group and you know like I said after that second year when TJ's guarantee is done I I think he jumps to 40-something else million that last year, and he's going to be 34, 35. I think they release him. You? I'm going with, I don't know about the trade with Mason.

34:30James Harrison:I think Will Howard would probably be two because we got him before Drew. But then, like you said, equal competition, see who's going to be ahead on that spot. Highsmith, no. Keep Highsmith. I don't think we're going to trade him. I think we got, like you said, we got TJ. We got Nick Herbick and we have Highsmith under contract for the next two years. Steelers don't need to get rid of talent that we have. We can still accumulate as much in this with this D-line pressure. Three starting real guys, you know what I'm saying, that can really get it done. And then what part? I'm excited about the secondary because I think with the – I just don't – I think the communication, once we have communication, the body on bodies is – people aren't making plays on us when we're in the right position.

35:14James Harrison:then it's going to be a lot more to see. So I think with the secondary, just being a body on a body, the communication, everybody just being lined up in the right position when the ball is snapped, I think that's what I'm most excited to see. Yes. Yeah, I'm excited to see the defense, period. To see them under a new scheme, see them communicate. Work together. Yes, yes. Coordinated effort where everybody is on the same page. Covenant Live, back again,$19. dollars. Joe, I always speak the nicest things I can when it comes to your true love. Yeah. Them janky ass browns.

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40:42Can I, what the freak?

40:45James Harrison:Can I get one of your brown jerseys or sign football? I got you covered it. Facts. A browns jersey? Chill out, Debo, there you know, see. ain't nobody talking to you close your mouth I'm talking to her what you talking about a Browns jersey yeah that's what he's saying I would send somebody to go burn up that jersey can I get one of you a Browns jersey or a signed football hey he send you a Browns jersey you send me my Steelers jersey back nope see he covered it you did that you let him know I told you I told you Debo oh man Coming to life back again. Oh, Lord. She said, let me see. Let me see.

41:34Drake London signed a four-year extension for$141 million with the Rams. We need Porter to silence him on our first game or dean somebody. Will Anderson said the Texans have Super Bowl caliber players. We can let them run us down like before. What?

41:55James Harrison:Drake London from the Atlanta Falcons signed with Rams? Hold up. Man, we letting company life run us astray. I'm saying. Four years.

42:14Okay.

42:16James Harrison:No, he signed the deal with the Falcons. Who did? Drake London. Drake London. Okay, so Drake London signed a four-year deal with the Falcons. Yes. A contract extension. Got you. Okay. Yes. So we need – okay, I got you. Dean somebody. Who's Dean somebody? $35 million a year.

42:47James Harrison:Who you talking about? Do we – C1, Will, and – You know our corner that we signed, Dean.

43:01James Harrison:Who is Drake Lundgren? Drake Lundgren signed the back. The receiver, wide receiver for the Atlanta Falcons. He just signed a big deal for$35 million per year. We must play the Falcons. She's saying we need Joey Fora. I don't think we play the Falcons. Don't we play Atlanta? I mean, I'm sorry. I thought we played the Texans.

43:25why am I drawing a blank on this oh opening game see it's at home you threw me off you gave me some wrong information you gave me some right information now you got me thinking about the Texans like don't we play the Texans too I thought we played the Texans too yes we do yes we do yeah because i was looking at that i know we got to play them boys again because i was like yo we got to go ahead get that get back now that we got we're gonna have a strong defense with us that's gonna be coordinated effort offense to run game we're gonna be there

44:13mm-hmm so we over here we got jay dub akron ten dollars he said debo back a while you were been a while debo damn it dude been a while i'm fucking up bad Devo, been a while. You were cool with my boys years back. We came to camp back in 05 and got your number. We're supposed to hang out, but life got in the way, and you blew up. Keep grinding, bro. Hashtag 330 strong. You don't know nothing about that 330, Joe. I honestly don't. That 330, what are you talking about? That's accurate. A.K. Roddy Roddy, Westside Summit County. It's right behind the street. Shout out. Go ahead. Okay. Don't bang on me, D-Bo.

45:08Man, don't make me throw up that 330. Crazy. Make me throw up that 330. I don't know what you mean. I don't know what you mean. He said I blew up and then that was it. He blew up and then you just blew up and then I disappeared. He said I blew up and then I disappeared. Hey, bro. I ain't going to lie to you. If you met me in 05, if you met me in 05, I did not want to tell you. Nope. You met me in 05. In 05, I ain't going to lie to you, bro. I had five phones. See?

45:49James Harrison:Trapped up. I did not know where I was going to listen. I had more than one phone. I was trapping for sure. I didn't know if I was going to be in the league long. I had to do what I had to do. Wow, see. I was making two grand a month, Joe. Oh my gosh. You did what? I was making two grand a month, Joe. I was on practice squad. Whoa. I'm out. Joe, I'm changed. Joe, listen, I ain't gonna lie to you, bro. I was changing my number as free. Like, I was changing my number more than I was changing my underwear, bro. And I changed them every day. Got to be more careful. I'm trying to tell you, Joe, man.

46:27So by then, bro, I ain't gonna lie to you, man. I done had at least 15, 20 phones since then. I had five at one time. You know, I done changed my numbers so much. I can't even remember numbers no more, man. Be like, man, what does that mean? I don't know.

46:44James Harrison:I never had more than one phone. You know what I'm saying? You was drafted, Joe. I had to get my money other ways. Wow. I'm you you were in the league. I had what I got a real. I'm getting this. Wow. I could go real. Wow. I see you had a plan B while I had a plan B before the A even started. I didn't get see there you go. Listen, that's not don't be like be more be more. You know what I'm saying? The good. I hear you. that don't mean you got to that don't mean you got to be crazy I wasn't I ain't get cold you were you hear the story you said about my mans what mans you talking about listen your mans that was in there trying to drink it listen Joe that's a different story that's what I'm saying this is what happened Joe this is your real life you are a wild man that was my real life Joe you are wild unhand man listen Joe Joe Joe listen that situation was what he knew what he did.

47:57Actually, Myra hit me up, dude. He actually hit me up on my Instagram. Did I send you that? Yeah, he hit me up, man. You know, he said he thought, hey, he was like, yo, that was funny, dude. Like, I wasn't going to do nothing to him. You know what I'm saying? Like, if he hadn't drank it, I mean, I wouldn't have killed him. I'd have had to at least shoot him in his leg.

48:16James Harrison:No, no, no, I know you wouldn't. I know you wouldn't. I know you wouldn't. I know you wouldn't have did that. No. I'd have had to, but, you know. You would have pistol whipped him. I know. I'd have had I'd have to at least shoot him. I'd have to at least shoot him. No. Deebo, you wouldn't have shot him on campus. If I didn't, if I didn't, my rep, what do I'm going to do? I don't threat. If you didn't, then you just fall. I got it. So if he didn't drink, if he didn't drink, I'd have had to at least graze him. You know what I'm saying? Like, oh, man, he going to run up out of there. Then I'm going to, you know, I probably bust a cup of air like I was still trying to get him.

48:51James Harrison:I promise you. I wouldn't want to really hang out with you I wouldn't really want to hang out with you No I'm saying back in the day That person was different That was not a saved man That's what I'm saying That was not a saved man Come on D-Bo You are a wilder Listen I'm just trying to tell you That's why you didn't have my number That's all I was trying to say You went somewhere else with it man You done made the people think that I ain't a good person man. I'm a good person, man. Debo, you are a really good person, bro. Thousand percent. Wild man for sure, though. Hey, look here. We got$50 Mexican.

49:34Uh-oh. Why did I say that? Let's go. That's right? If you're Mexican? I don't know. Okay. All right. $50, yeah. Okay. Carlos Averiz. 7044. Debo rocking Greg Lewis shirt. Yes, sir. Joe. Joe.

50:00Say, Joe.

50:02James Harrison:I wasn't high for my disposition. How? Joe, how about you get a blunt hat next? Whoa. That's called a cowboy hat. a blunt hat. Not the blunt. What are you thinking, Joe? Oh, my God. Yeah, I I didn't know what he was. I'm like, dang, man, he wanted me with the leaf hat on. Hold up, Joe. I'll be right back. Hold on. Hold on, Joe. Just the whole cannabis hat? You know what I'm saying? I can't do that. That was diabolical. All right, what's up? Covered it. Okay, we got another one. Covered it,$19. Covered it live. I like causing friction with both of you. I also know it's being messy when it comes to who is we.

51:00James Harrison:See, that's what I messed up with the we, because sometimes Debo wants to be with the we. Hey, Joe, you messed that up, man. Sometimes he, hold on, hold on. Who is we? That's a blunt. That's a blunt. That's a cowboy. Hey. Mel Blunt now. You understand? Mel Blunt. Great Lord right here. You're talking about Mel Blunt. See, look at you. I don't know nothing about no drugs. I don't even know what no blunt is. Somebody told me what it was. She said she like causing friction with the both of us, Joe. As you know, being messy when it comes to being messy when it comes to who is we Joe I love you both and I love our not Joes but our Steelers yes Debo because he is going in the Hall of Fame jersey please I reckon uh I reckon we can forgive you on this one considering he is a a good loyal friend of mine now consider him to be my brother a thousand percent you know I love him.

52:13I whoop a nigga ass and maybe kill somebody over me too. So I reckon you right. Hey Joe, I'm going to need one of them Browns jerseys too, I guess. I reckon I'll put it up there. You got to. Put it on my bottom shelf, maybe on my floor as a, you know. I'm going to put it somewhere where you can see it all the time. I reckon we got something going good right here, boy. Look here. We got another one right here in this chat right there. Still a little Matt. Five dollars. He said you guys are great. How many wins do the Steelers get this season? How many wins the Steelers get this season? Love your content.

52:57What you say, Joe? I reckon I'll let you say what you think will happen first. I reckon you reckon what you reckon now?

53:11James Harrison:it's going to be 30? 13. 12 or 13? 12 or 13. I reckon you were in the right range, but

53:27I'm going to give them two more. Oh, you're going 15 to 2? 15 to 2.

53:33James Harrison:All right. Ain't going to be no worse than 13. 13 to least. I went 12 to least, but mine 13 for real. 13 to 4. Yep. Them boys going get it. I already know because now I'm geek. I already know what it is. I'm shooting for 10 over there and now I know for us over here, for the Steelers, 13 minimum. 12 minimum. Yeah, for sure. For sure. Well, I reckon, ladies and gentlemen, that's about all the time we got right now. We want to show enough. Appreciate you guys and tell you how much we care and appreciate you guys watching us every day. You know that we on here on Monday, Tuesday and Friday, interacting with us and having a good old, good old time.

54:22Good old show.

54:23James Harrison:Yes. Yes. You know, and Joe, Joe. Yup. Like Deebo said, I appreciate everybody getting on tapping in with us and we will be here same time, same place on Friday. All right now, we gonna see y 'all around there. Howdy now. I did it.

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