Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Brandon Aiyuk Breaks Silence + Denzel Ward Wants To Stay in Cleveland

21:29James Harrison:Debo, what's happening here, Debo? You go first, please. You go first. I do not know what in the fiddle faddle am I not talking about, bro. Here's the problem, bro. Like, we have no real information on what happened with him and the 49ers that led them to the position that they're in right now where the GM won't release him. is it guaranteed money on the line or something like i don't i don't i don't know what's going on and then like he's talking about um like fake or whatever what like dude you got cost you you got yourself caught speaking bro you put that on camera that ain't no that ain't fake you did that like i hope he ain't talking about that what's going on debo this is what i'm trying to say So in the NFL, so right now he's trying to get, he wanted to get traded, right?

22:27James Harrison:He wanted to get traded. He tore his ACL. And from that point, I don't know where the relationship started getting shaky, but I'm looking at it. Right now, basically, he's saying he don't want to be there, right? He don't want to be there. They're not trying to release him. But do you think this is the appropriate way to do it? Like, right now, I'm looking at him like, I think they said the Commanders is the team that he's looking to go to because I think the general manager, whoever drafted him, is over there with the Commanders. I'm just looking at my man like, you signed a contract, four years,$120 million, and I'm thinking that with— He got 120 wins, yo!

23:04James Harrison:Four years—he signed a contract with the 49ers. He signed a four-year extension when he asked to get traded the offseason before. Didn't get traded during that offseason. He signed a four-year, 120 mil. That's why they ain't letting him go. What'd you say? That's why they ain't letting him go. How much guarantee money they got on him? I don't know. But then it started being crazy because he was, like, it says, like, he just stopped communicating with the team. Do you know how when you have to go and do your treatments and do your rehabs and come to just to schedule appointments, like, if you're not, if your stuff is hurt, you got to, like, rehab, check in, be on point.

23:36James Harrison:It kind of went astray where he kind of was not talking to them no more, and that's when the 49ers said he won't be playing for us. But at the same time, we have him under contract. We're not just going to release him because he's saying that he's an asset and they know that. If they let him go or get rid of him and they're keeping some money away because there's a way that you got to go about it. You got to still pull up to the building. You got to still show up to your rehabs and check in. They got the doctors and all of that stuff. So he's been getting fined and all of this, but he don't want to play for them.

24:09James Harrison:But for me, it's like you got to do it in a more definite professional way. And then posting on the gram what you speeding and getting those allegations. And then the way that you talk about the team. I mean, not allegations. It happened on that. That was footage. With this, it just is starting to look like, Debo, you know, it's not for long. The league. I think him being able to look back at the way that he's going about the stuff, wanting to get released. I don't know the ins and outs of the way you're getting traded. But the way that the business of the NFL works is all I know is you signed a$120 million contract.

24:45James Harrison:And for me, looking at it now, I would just want you to not miss out on this blessing. Because then, you know, if you were to get cut, released, go sign to another team, the commanders, like, we don't know what's going on. And now with the other teams looking at you talking like this. Oh, yeah. Other teams are looking at it like you talking crazy. He's like, now, do you think the NFL don't need you, Brandi Ayuk? And I'm not trying to be in any way disrespectful because that$120 million that you signed for, that could be gone. And then the league's going to move on. If they don't sign you, like, it'll just be a sad story.

25:20James Harrison:But you living your life, that would be real life money that is kind of, right now, he's like, man, belt the ass. Like, you know, like talking all that. Like, man, no, they scared of what's going to happen to him. like just trying to understand you working with a business that don't need you to NFL you are hitting this lottery every year so I'm just trying to figure out ways that you don't mess up your bag that you're around for 100 years it's gonna be around for 100 more after you done uh it's going to continue and they don't need and the more that you ball the longer lease that you have but then it's like if you're doing that with this team and they gave you the back other teams are just kind of like is he worth the headache or can I just try to go get me a little draft somebody in the first, second round and just hit that's coming in now hungry, ready, you know what I'm saying?

26:05James Harrison:In meetings, not doing wild things, you know what I'm saying? So it's just a sad thing to see when I look at it like that. Yeah, yeah, I don't I'm going to go with your explanation because I can't understand it no other way. And that's just you know, you could 120, listen, bro, I'm coming in there You in it, bro, I mean, like Like when you just got to put yourself. No, I'm not trying to get fined, Joe. We work for these, the teams. And it's always a way that. Dude, that's the problem. Everybody thinks like, oh, I work for the team. Right now we are employees. I'm making this money and I should be able to do what I want to do.

26:44Hell no, you can't. No, you can't. You're an employee. Just because you're in a position where you get a higher profile, people listen to you and all that other stuff. It don't mean a damn thing, dude. You still work for this company. You got to do what the hell they say. how the hell they said, and if you don't like it, they're going to release your ass, let you go, or whatever that may be, fine you. And you're going to be sitting there looking on the outside, looking in, talking about, damn, later on down the line, you know what, man, maybe I could have done something a little different right there, but you're so into your own ego, you're letting your own ego destroy you.

27:17Like, your opportunity to continue to play in the league, like, don't do it, bro.

27:21James Harrison:Don't do it. You got to keep the main thing the main thing, and it's to be able to be in the NFL, playing and trying to stay, like, trying to stay out the way. I understand now when things start to happen and there's ways that they can really just, you, the man, the goal. Conduct detrimental is something serious. That fine is no limit. You know, they do whatever. Yeah, they don't understand that. Like, yo, conduct, I hear too much about conduct detrimental. It ain't, they don't have a minimum or a max on that. After a certain point, I take everything from me. Take the whole year, half the year.

28:00Like, nah, I don't want none of that. I don't want none of that, man. The Dolphins' new head coach, Jeff Hathley, wants his team to be good at the tush push on both sides of the ball. Ask about the tush push at OTAs. Hathley said he wants his defense to figure out how to stop it. And he wants quarterback Malik Williams and the Dolphins offensive line to figure out how to run it effectively. He said it's hard to stop. So get good at it and do it. I mean, it's really hard to stop. So as long as it's a legal play, we need to figure out on defense a way to stop it. and with a quarterback like Malik and some big guys up front, maybe we can get good at it.

28:53Joe, this shit ain't rocket science, bro. What is he talking about, bro? We got to figure out how to stop it. You know how you stop it? You stop it with guys that are big and powerful and can push and not get pushed off the ball and can push the other guys off the ball. This shit ain't rocket. You need to figure it out. if this is what you're worrying about, dude, like trying to figure out a scheme or come up with a miracle or like you're going to come up with a new way to defeat the tush push or make it better and then on defense how to stop it with this great scheme. No. It's called put your hand into the ground, get lower than them, and then have more power as you push into them.

29:34That's it. Yeah. You're spending all this time on this. This is your first year of the head coach, and this is what you're talking about? Hell no. You want your team to figure out how? Figure out how to stop it. What? You know how to stop it.

29:50James Harrison:Got to get low. Got to get low. I think as long as the referees don't let them get off the ball faster than you, as long as it's not offsides first, it's foot. Get off the ball. You got to get lower, and you don't push back. I think when we see the tush push, as long as they don't get off the ball on time, I mean, as long as they don't jump off sides, then it's more of an even battle. When they get off the ball, the line's moving before the ball is snapped, and then they snap the ball, you have no chance. If you all get an even playing field, as soon as the ball moves, everybody's heads behind the ball, and now we move when the ball moves, it's more of a battle.

30:26James Harrison:Who's getting lower? Who's pushing the other people back? If they're taking off before we get the chance to take off and the flag isn't being thrown, that's a cheap play. If they're doing it all at the same time, all be fair, then it's more 50-50. It's more who's getting lower, who's pushing the other person back. So I think if they just start calling the play better with that, then it's just. This is what I think. It is what you think. It is. If you're getting lower and if my quarterback is strong and pushing his legs like Jalen Hurts, we're going to move forward. This is what I think. The tush push should be a reviewed play whenever it's done.

31:01You people, you NFL, y 'all want to go and review every time a guy gets hit by a defensive player. You want to slow it down 50 ,000 times and see the teeny top of his helmet hit this dude's chin. And now he gets flagged and fined 50 ,000. Take this tush push. But the reason y 'all don't want to do that is because it helps the offense advance the ball and get more points on the board. But take the tush push, and any time you tush push, it is reviewed in the box to see if anybody jumped early. If they do, it's flagged. And we don't got to wait for it. And we ain't got to wait for it. We don't got to wait.

31:37James Harrison:It's happening. While the play is going on, they already checking in slow-mo to see if people was going offside, so then we know if it was good or not. Because I feel you, D-Bo. If it's an even chance, I'm with it. But when we've been watching the tush push and the line is going before the book. They're offside already. He got the ball tucked up under him anyway. He's the only person that can be past the ball, but your lineman is past the ball too because they grab him more line. Like, come on, you already offside. I don't like the play. I'm not a fan, but I'm like, if you're going to run it, then give the defense a chance.

32:12James Harrison:Even the playing field. Every tush push is reviewed upstairs as soon as it's done. And it's told to the ref if it's good or not, offside or not, whatever it is, boom. Done. I'm with you a thousand percent because I'm not I'm not against the touch push. I'm just with if you're going to run the play, run it the right way. Don't have your people lined up off sides. Don't have the ball already tucked. Let's like what's what's going on. Like they literally everybody's all huddled over the ball and they're already moving. Yeah, I mean, I think he might be putting too much emphasis on this because he was in Green Bay.

32:49when they probably tush pushed his ass last year and lost him the game. Yeah, when you get tush pushed on it's going to make you feel some type of way, bro, you get tush pushed on. For sure. Eagles went on ahead, put that tush push on him. He's like, well, we got to figure that out. I can't. No, listen, stop. Don't worry about it, bro. Don't worry. It's simple. They stronger than y 'all. They getting lower than y 'all. That's it. Ain't nothing to figure out. They got muscles. They get in the weight room. Get in the weight room. Get your strength up.

33:21James Harrison:That's it. Get your Casey Hampton. Weight up. Get your Hampton on. Hampton wasn't getting tush pushed on. Listen, man, they weren't about trying to tush push. Hampton, stop playing, bro. That's what I'm saying. I wasn't even saying Hampton. I said Hampton was not getting, never getting tush pushed on. He wasn't even having that. That wasn't even part of the game, man. Jump into these super chats, man. What we got, coach? I guess we got a super chat. That was for Monday.

33:49Hexanti What the freak Hexanti Do you think There's a disconnect from Pittsburgh From Blitzburg area And today's linebackers

34:06What do you think Joe What do you think Mr.

34:09James Harrison:Blitzburg I don't I don't know about

34:16I think the game the linebackers don't play like they used to game change game don't change like

34:24it don't it don't really like you can hit now it's just that you gotta hit low and I call it dirty I just call it dirty you gotta hit so low to not take a chance of hitting somebody in their helmet

34:38James Harrison:I feel like D-Bow what you're saying is right When you hit up high, it's more of an imposing of your will. It's like, you know what I'm saying? Boom. That's just more than when you feel like you're going low. It's like, I'm victim weight. I got to go take your legs out because I can't go up high. Yes, yes, yes. That's what it is. Why are you going down on it? Like, yo, what? I got to hit him low because he's big. I got to make sure. That's like, you feel like I got to go low because you can't tackle. They're like, man, don't go up on that big boy. Don't go up on that big boy. You better go for his legs.

35:09James Harrison:like me going low on a receiver is is done no no for sure that makes you and here's the thing you feel when you go low on a receiver that's not looking at you it's legal it's yes yes but if you hit him high and knock him out that game it's illegal but if you hit him low and knock him out for the season it's legal it don't make sense it's for that it's just it's i want it was because you know listen i tell dude real fast man listen you got a shot blind shot on me and you don't you think you can you can shoot off and take that and you could actually go low no go high i'll pay your fine if you get me if you get me yeah if you still when i was going when i was getting fine bro i would tell cast up like yo bro i'm gonna tell you right now i'm gonna hit you low i'm gonna hit you low if i have a chance to hit you.

36:04I'm not getting fined, bro. Fitzgerald, he was like, bro, hit me high. I'll pay the fine. See? I said, you got it. I got it. You got action.

36:16James Harrison:I see you when you wake up. No question. Like, that's, yeah. It's just, they're trying to protect. You can't protect everything from everything. This is a game that has inherent dangers to it. And, you know, that's just part of it. Like, I can understand, you know, Yeah, just outright, like back in the G, you know, where you went and just clothesline, you know, across their neck like that. I was like, whoa, them boys are playing crazy back then. Mm-hmm. For sure. Man, Mike Mike, he back$100. I mean, Mike Mike 100. He got$5. He said, what up, Debo and Joe? Discover a spectacular island destination with crystal blue seas, endless sunshine, and the cool Bahamian breeze.

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40:32Yeah. Bebo and Joe outside in the chaos of New York Knicks fans. I like that.

40:39James Harrison:Man. You scared, Joe? I ain't scared. I'm going to be out there doing it with the longest. Yes, they're going to think. But look, that's what I'm saying. everybody gonna think I'm just supporting everybody's team I'm just I love sports though but if we go out there I'm going to have to like rock with the Knicks so we can get love I'm all for we gonna come in there Hayden you gonna come in there with the Knicks stuff I'm coming in there with Knicks on I got to I ain't about to get you know what I'm saying and I'm not trying to be like oh I'm happy for y 'all for sure let's go y 'all we didn't win I'm here don't say we no we We, we, I'm talking about my calves.

41:19James Harrison:Don't say we. We? When I talking about we. You say we out there with them. Hey, we ain't winning. I'm happy for y 'all, huh? Who is we? See, no, I'm not going to say that out loud. I'm going to be like this, man. Good work, Knicks. Brunson. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Where's the Brunson statue? I ain't going to lie to you. If they sweep them, I ain't going to lie. I'm going to think a little different about the calves if they sweep these boys, bro. I ain't going to lie to you. See? See? It wasn't their fault. We had him up 22, and they came in. It's not off. It just. They had him up 14 at one point. They came back.

41:53Nick's not playing. They came back.

41:54James Harrison:Oh, my goodness. And that, Wimby came through with the layup. Do you think that was Wimby's fault when he passed it off his back? Hell yeah. Ah. Ah. I thought he was looking like, okay, Wimby. Bro, you got to come on, bro. You got to hold that? You got to hold that. Yeah, my man said he's, ah. You gots to be more careful. You gots to be. Eric Abel, 58,$5, said, Debo, who do you want to see as QB1 next year, WH or DA or 2027 draft quarterback? Who is WH and DA? Will Howard. Oh, Will Howard. Drew Aller. Drew Aller.

42:45Honestly We don't need to drop the quarterback We need to go get Joe Burrow

42:54James Harrison:If there's no Joe Burrow It's not It's not neither It's not Drew or DA If there's no Joe Burrow We're going to be the one in the championship We're not going to get the quarterback we want That's why we got to go get Joe And let him know Joe, we just won a championship. You want to come back and do this back-to-back with us and get you one. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. I got to watch more of the college football because the same way people thought last year's draft was supposed to be amazing for the quarterbacks and they didn't have too much of a good years and then Fendoza came out of nowhere, I just got to see what's going to happen during the season this year for it.

43:37James Harrison:to be like, is one of these quarterbacks going to be able to be a franchise? I'm going to go with Howard, though. For my opinion, if I'm going with what we got on our team right now, I'm trying out Howard.

43:52I don't know why we got to make a decision right now on 2027 anyway. I know. Neither one of them could do so. To be honest with you, hey, Eric, I'm going to tell you right now, we don't have a decision to make. We could say Will and he ends up being something that we thought he wasn't. And we could say, you know, Drew, and he ends up being something we thought he wasn't. So we don't even know what they can do in the NFL yet as a quarterback, starting quarterback in the league. So, yeah, I'm going to – yeah, check back later. Check back later.

44:22James Harrison:D-Bo got to see research. No question. You got to see some evidence. Hexante,$5 again. being a successor of the blicksburg era how do you see this age of linebackers still as linebackers who seem far from their predecessors this group has no identity

44:48we go figure it out we got a whole nother coaching staff um your coaches usually help bring in identity through the process of how they coach what they value so hopefully with the new coaching staff we know we have better coaches that is for sure um the values that uh you know they'll be able to instill into these players and and and um let them see you know what it is that they're about, it should definitely help give us a better identity or a identity. Like, we got to get back to just smashing people sometimes.

45:37James Harrison:Exactly. Downhill. And I think that's going to help us out too when our linemen keep them as fresh, clean as possible. So we're going to just be sideline to sideline, downhill. So identity is going to be happening when our defense doesn't have mistakes all over the place. When the D-line is holding their own, keeping the two, keeping the linebackers fresh. So, I mean, just depending on once the D-line and the linebackers, you'll see them working better once everybody's all in cahoots. When the DBs and the D-line linebackers are all flowing together, when people are not jumping out of their gaps, it's going to have Queen be fresher.

46:15James Harrison:He's going to be able to move and react a whole lot quicker. So, he's going to look like he's flying around because he's not guessing where he has to go.

46:24For sure, for sure, man. Is that Deity Truck? Deity Truck? Yeah. $50 said Deity Truck. Love the show. Let's bring awareness to Mental Health Awareness Month. In love and memory of Eric Brown II, age 20, Fayette, Georgia. June 4th, 2026. He took his own life. Sponsored by Deity Truck. save our youth be available to the youth as a follow-up here eric was my younger cousin and a fan of the show and to him you were and to him you all were larger than life figures i hope that you all understand that to some you are all superheroes keep doing what y 'all doing Hey, man, thank you. Appreciate you. Sorry for your loss, man.

47:21A thousand percent. It's mental awareness, man, huh? Uh-huh. I don't know. I'm probably going to be out of line. I don't know. But my life has been better, has been greater. I've had more peace when there should be none since I accepted my Lord and Savior and started building a relationship with him. And that to me is the thing that has allowed me to get through a lot of current situations and really just improve my outlook on situations. So I believe that if you build your relationship and faith with your Lord and Savior, and I'm not saying just go to church once a week. I'm talking about actually sit down, read the Word, spend time with it, think about it, and have conversations, talk, dedicate time.

48:30First thing I do when I get up is I'm 45 minutes into the Word, and I'm having time to sit there, and there's nobody up. It's three o 'clock in the morning and I'm, you know, I'm going through and I'm reading the word and I'm talking and I'm having conversations, you know, with my Lord and Savior. And it's not like you hear words back, it's feelings. And I didn't go lie to you, but I never had that before until I actually started to really, you know, build a relationship and then accepted my Lord and Savior. So I think what we need more of is more faith, more God. Yeah.

49:06James Harrison:So I think that helps. I feel you. I'm with you a thousand percent, man. God pushes to kindness, generosity, understanding, being able to have being able to just be there for people. You know what I'm saying? So like they said right there, always a helping word, always a motivational speech or not even motivational speech. Just saying I'm here for you. I'm loving for you. And like when you said, Debo, knowing life is bigger than you. You know what I'm saying? Having that Christ in your life, knowing that no matter what's going on, you always have a father that's with you no matter what. For sure.

49:41For sure, brother. Covenant Life,$20. She said, A.D. wife said, no, he's not returning. Yeah. Yeah. The queen of tennis is back, Serena, for sure. For sure. Debo, if you were called in to speak to the Steelers defense, what one thing would you hammer on? I don't know if I would hammer Oh Joe You have a terrible time

50:05James Harrison:Yeah I do Where? I brought water to the game It's probably in my room I can reach now and grab six of them I can't reach right now and grab one Because I brought them to the game You brought one? No I brought like five Because I had the whole family at the game We were still as down I brought all the jerseys Everybody had jerseys on We look sweet Okay, John, whatever you say. So if I was to go and talk to the defense now, I wouldn't need to have anything to hammer on because I don't think we have an understanding or a lack of, we don't know what we have right now until these coaches get a hold of them and actually get in at least four games and we see what our identity is going to look like.

50:56Hmm.

50:58James Harrison:You know? Yeah. You know what I'll tell them Communication Communication Communication gentlemen Y 'all got all the skills But you can't say that how you know they ain't Reeking they ain't already saying communication I don't That's why I said you gotta let them play it out I'm just gonna say You coming here right now talking It's gonna feel like See look Debo All I'm trying to say is If they gonna say one thing I'm just gonna say communication Hopefully the coaches are – obviously the coaches are probably saying communication, but just if they like this, damn. Well, we know that wasn't the thing last year.

51:37James Harrison:Joe double-downed on it. Like, because now if y 'all are communicating, y 'all are in the right – y 'all already had a schedule. Y 'all got the skills. Y 'all just need to know. Everybody knows what we got going on. Nobody's looking crazy like this. You know what I'm saying? I'm getting acknowledgement. I'm getting – you know what I'm saying? Yes. I'm getting – check, check, check, check. Bravo, bravo. I'm getting all that. Oh, I'm getting reset. You saying what I'm saying? That's communication. Like, I just need noise. I need y 'all to be talking. If we get that, now we're in the right spot. Now if you get beat, you're like this.

52:09James Harrison:Damn, like, I'm right there. I gotta just get the ball out. I'm like this. Yes. Not, not. Me and you, we're standing right next to each other. And the dude's back there. We're like this. Doing this one. And we're doing this one. What the fuck? I don't need no more what the fucks. I need this. I need this. Ah! Like, you know what I'm saying? Getting back up to the huddle. You know what I'm talking about? You smacking the ball out of his hand. Hey, tell me about it. You know what I'm saying? Tell me about it. Mike, Mike, Mike,$100. Oh, sorry. Mike, Mike, I keep saying$100. Mike, Mike,$100 said, invite Burl on the podcast.

52:43Or is that tampering? Hey, we can invite Joe on the podcast, okay? But it ain't tampering, okay? Because I don't work for the Steelers. No. Neither do I. Yeah.

53:01James Harrison:Mm-hmm.

53:05Joe, baby, game three tonight, man. We going to see what's going down, brother. If they win, I got to book me the first thing smoking up out, or the last thing smoking up out of here Tuesday so I can get into the hotel right there at Times Square. Yes. Go ahead and get all the lives going. I might even step out there. I don't even know, Joe. I might even step out there. If I get there in time so I can get me some cat, give me a cat jersey, get you a brown jersey, something like that, I'm going out there, and I'm going to be acting crazy, talking crazy. Real New York, son. You understand, B? Real New York.

53:42James Harrison:Real New York, son. For sure. You know? So you got them, we got them winning. If they win tonight, it's sweet. If they win tonight, it's sweet. It's sweepstakes. And I ain't going to lie, it's going to be jumping in there. Man. Joe, I ain't been in the streets in a minute, but I might go ahead and see what the street's talking about after that. A suite in New York? Hey, look, brother B, yeah, you let me know how that is. Tell me all about it. Man. FaceTime me.

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54:25James Harrison:Joe yo see you tomorrow same time same place let's get it and we out

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