Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Casey Hampton on Steelers Super Bowls, Dick LeBeau & More!

5 May 2026 · 50 min · 18 chapters

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In short

Deebo Samuel (and host Joe) talk about the camaraderie and accountability of the Steelers’ Super Bowl-era locker room, how social media/podcasting changed player priorities, and how Dick LeBeau’s defense emphasized “tight” execution and role discipline. They also discuss the evolution of the Steelers’ true 3-4 defense, plus Super Bowl XLIII memories and a debate about modern NFL hitting/safety.

Guest

Casey Hampton, former Steelers nose tackle (48 years old in the episode). Background: anchor of the Steelers’ run defense/true 3-4 style; credits coaches and teammates (including Aaron Smith and Kimo von Oelhoffen) for unselfish sacrifice and role clarity. Mentions Coach Mitch (defensive line coach) and Coach Dick LeBeau’s teaching/photographic memory.

Key claims

Social media “me, me, me” reduces team bonding; money/shiny incentives outweigh championship drive for some players; accountability (“no excuses”) and accepting criticism are essential; LeBeau’s system made linebackers successful by holding linemen.

Notable examples

“You are here so my linebackers can run” from LeBeau; Hampton learning the system took two years (sleeping on the floor); Super Bowl XLIII chase/goal-line “fake hold” call involving Hartwig; LeBeau remembering plays from decades prior.

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Chapters

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Super Bowl Memories

3:06 to 4:23

Discussion on memorable moments from Super Bowl runs and camaraderie.

“What is the best memories or things that happened that you remember from those two runs?”

Team Dynamics and Brotherhood

4:23 to 6:40

Exploration of the strong bonds formed between teammates.

“Like that whole thing, like when I played back in my mind, going to those Super Bowls and winning the game and after the game, hanging out and after party at the hotel being the trips to Vegas and hanging out.”

Changing Motivations in Football

6:40 to 8:39

Examining how player motivations have changed over the years.

“right now that they can't get together with each other and be like, yo, this is us.”

The Love of the Game vs. Money

8:39 to 11:00

Discussion about prioritizing passion for the game over financial gains.

“I definitely don't think the championship is valued the same way that it was when we were playing.”

Humorous Team Interactions

11:00 to 14:00

Sharing funny anecdotes about on-field tensions and arguments.

“I don't think people understand the comedy that would go on, especially with you and foot, bro.”

Team Dynamics and Accountability

14:00 to 18:20

Discussion on accountability among teammates and communication in the locker room.

“And foot just like to argue about everything, and that's what it is.”

Defensive Philosophy Under Coach LeBeau

18:20 to 23:20

Insights into Coach LeBeau's defensive strategies and the importance of execution.

“only and is not an investment recommendation or advice.”

The Importance of Sacrifice in Defense

23:20 to 28:00

Exploration of the sacrifices required for defensive players to succeed as a unit.

“You let your team in tackles, bro, and then come to the Pittsburgh Steelers where the first thing Coach LeBeau tell his D-line is, you are here so my linebackers can run.”

Reflecting on Changes in the Game

28:00 to 30:29

Discussion about the evolution of football strategies and player roles.

“the boat was still there at 14 when I came back So was they playing the 2-0?”

Lessons from Coach LeBeau

30:30 to 32:16

Insights on learning and adapting to the defensive strategies under Coach LeBeau.

“Because I was so lost the first two years, bruh.”
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Thoughts on the New Coach

32:17 to 34:16

Conversations about the new coach's impact on the Steelers and his coaching style.

“You know, I'm sitting back, chilling, man, maxing, relaxing.”

Memories of Defensive Strategies

34:17 to 36:44

Reflections on past defensive strategies and the photographic memory of Coach LeBeau.

“It ain't going to be about what you want.”

AARP Discounts and Life Reflections

36:45 to 39:44

Light-hearted banter about age and the benefits of an AARP membership.

“I'd be like, what the fuck did I do yesterday?”

NFL Safety and Hitting Culture

43:36 to 46:27

Explore the evolution of hitting in the NFL and its safety concerns.

“Super Chat, we got Eric Oboe $5.8 $5.2 $5.”

Super Bowl XLIII Reflections

46:28 to 51:28

Hear reflections on the weight of a crucial moment in Super Bowl XLIII.

“Well, after I caught my body, man, I kind of felt bad.”

Music Memories: Tupac and Biggie

51:29 to 56:00

Discuss favorite songs from Tupac and Biggie, and the nostalgia of CDs.

“Woodley and Keys will close it out at the end.”

Reflecting on Iconic Moments in Steelers History

56:00 to 57:19

The hosts reminisce about memorable moments and players from the Steelers' past.

“Why was he wearing a big-ass coat back then, man?”

Hall of Fame Debate and Future Guests

57:20 to 58:09

Discussion about Hall of Fame eligibility and future guest appearances on the show.

“But hell, they ain't even let Bill in there.”
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3:29But I just think the times that we had off the field and like hanging out together and like on the runs, like, you know, going to New York after the game. I never did that. and hang. Deebo, hey, man, you was in there working out. You was in the gym. Listen, y 'all had it already. I was trying to get it. Hey, man, but just, but that's what it was, though, Deebo. Like, that's what it was. Like, just hanging out, the camaraderie with our boys. Like, just chilling, man. Like, I think, man, it was a whole other level of just kicking it and just chilling with people, man, coming back from the game and going out.

4:14I ask all guys this sort of question and they say the same thing, bro. It was like a movie. It was like, I could just see it right now. Like the cameras flashing and it was like it was in a movie. Like that whole thing, like when I played back in my mind, going to those Super Bowls and winning the game and after the game, hanging out and after party at the hotel being the trips to Vegas and hanging out. Man, it was like, hey, man, it's like a movie playing in my head. It's like it wasn't real now. You know what I'm saying? It wasn't real. But man, like I said, man, the games and stuff was fun.

4:54But chilling with y 'all boys, you know what I'm saying? Playing hard. Hey, dude, getting booed to sleep. Man, oh my goodness. Hey, man, that's really what it was all about to be, people. That's the thing. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Nobody but Willie Reed, but Willie Reed.

5:11hey man them boys used to boo each other to sleep man that's that was the good that's what it was all about though man you know what i'm saying fraternizing with yes dude i'll be trying to tell people now listen i'm like dude i think one of the biggest components that's missing dude is like guys don't really spend time with each other i'm like when i see him when i see other guys on the team i'm like dude that's my brother like like like real life real talk my kids call them uncle. You know what I'm saying? It's real family there. And I don't think people understand that. It's real. I can argue with you.

5:48We can be damn near right about ready to fight and then be cool three minutes later. That's just how it go because it's real life, true family. Hell, me and Peasy, we was going back and forth. Everybody thought we was beefing. We ain't beefing. No. Hell, that's how we talk. You should have heard us on the phone. You know what I'm saying? yeah that's how it's supposed to go though when you're real but what you think it is though what do you think it is why these guys you think it's the type of money they make and they got too much other stuff on social media like what is it that keeps the guys from being together like that and hanging out like that like you know what I'm saying I think this is the issue with it is that everybody right now they want their own shine and they want to outshine whoever they feel like is shining more than them.

6:39And it's so much me, me, me right now that they can't get together with each other and be like, yo, this is us. Right now, dude, we ain't have social media. We wasn't looking for the likes. We wasn't looking for the comments. We wasn't looking for the followers, bro. Like if we had social media back there, this right here, this horn right here, with hemp like this, with a shirt off, that would have been everywhere. oh yeah yeah yeah you know what i'm saying i ain't saying that hemp was doing that but yeah hemp was doing that you know what i'm saying like it was automatic half the shit we did when we was playing man out being out man that stuff would have been so far dude we in one spot 30 deep bro everybody's shirt off yeah we would have been in trouble like we would have been we would have been viral like the rulings would have been we would have had a whole lot of team meetings on our activities outside.

7:32I think a lot of times they probably heard about it, but I think seeing it. Seeing it would have been different. A whole lot. Yeah, seeing the things we were doing would have been a whole lot different than hearing about them. You know what I'm saying? No doubt about it. Yeah, I think the, you know, the built up of the, like I said, it's all the social media, the likes, everything. Everybody wanting to have their own shine, you know, be bigger than this, you know, that's and that, you know. It's crazy. Bro, you got active players with podcasts and all that stuff. Like, how are you going to be an active player than going there?

8:00Like, it's going to be some tough questions you might have to deal with, man. No doubt. You know what I'm saying? And then the time that it takes to do it, to prepare for it, be ready for it, like, you're taking away from other time that, hell, like you said, we could be fraternizing. Yeah. You know? What you doing, doing your podcast, doing your thing. I guess, hey, man, so many streams of money, D-Boy, I guess you can't knock the people from making your bread. No, I can't. I can't never knock you from making your bread. But, you know, at the same point in time, man, you want to build something and get the championships or you just want to make money?

8:33Yeah. That's what it boils down to. And I think a lot of these cats, they want to get that bread. They want to get to that bread. I definitely don't think the championship is valued the same way that it was when we were playing. You know what I mean? I think guys talk about it. I think guys act like it. But I think the money, the money, the money's always been a big factor, but I think it's just an overwhelming factor. You know, you got to think about it now. But I just think that's really what it is. You know what I mean? I mean, you got to think about it now. You got, you know, you got guys in college, you know, making millions of dollars, you know.

9:09And what's what's to motivate you now? Like, I understand, like, yeah, you want to make more money, but like that drive, that motivation to to to get better and be that top dog at the next level. Is it just now I just want to get some more money or like because you have a whole bunch of cats that make money, you know, in college and then that's it. Like, and now get to the to the money in the NFL. But you got guys even in the NFL, Debo, you got guys retiring. They making so much money. They retiring at 28, 29, 30 years old. Debo, I don't give a damn how much money I made. I'm not retiring at no 30 years old if I still got something.

9:53I love it. Hey, I was about to say, it's the love of the game, man. It's the love of the game. Like the money, like give me all that. I ain't tripping. But going out there competing, like, that means something to me. Like, you know what I mean? That's what it's all about. Going against that other man, mano-a-mano, whooping him. You know what I'm saying? Imposing my weight on him, making him. You know what I'm saying? That's what I'm on. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's what I'm playing past 30 years or 32. I want to be in there damn near 40, whooping on somebody that's half my age. You know what I'm saying?

10:32Like, yes, I feel good about that. You got old men. You wasn't even born when I was, you know, around in high school. And now you out here getting first round money. I'm putting my hands on you, making you look bad in front of your people. You know what I'm saying? The motivation is different. All them boys don't have that motivation like that. They don't look at it the same way, man. Bro, I got to go home to my son. I can't let you whoop on me and then get home to my son. Now he thinking about he got a chance. yeah older boys now see cause when you're older now your sons ain't young no more they look when you get whooped they looking at you right damn I think I got a chance he ain't he ain't what he used to be he ain't he ain't what he used to be nah hey man you can't have you can't have no man rise up and just throw you down to the ground and then you gotta go home to your son talking about you ain't do that to that guard you ain't do that to that guard.

11:32You ain't say that to that guard. No doubt about it. Hey, Ham, listen here, man. I don't think people understand the comedy that would go on, especially with you and foot, bro. If the damn running back got four yards and if the runner, listen, I'm going to tell you all right now, Ham had a problem if anybody ran the ball. He already pissed off that he holding on to two people, right? He's taking two. They can't move him. I mean, literally, he just right here with two 300, 340-pound center and then damn guard just holding him right there. They trying to push him off. They can't get him off the line.

12:14Now, if the running back got anything more than three yards and don't let him get four yards on back-to-back plays, this right here is ham god damn what y 'all doing back there y 'all y 'all ain't doing nothing y 'all go tackle somebody what the hell am i doing this for bro listen chat these boys foot and hand would be arguing so hard the ref was about to throw a flag on us dude like the actual ref was gonna throw a flag on us dude because they were arguing with each other, not we. Them two was arguing with each other, man. Why do you and Foote had this sort of relationship, brother? Why did y 'all have that sort of relationship?

13:10Man, first of all, you know Foote is the most argumentous person ever. Like, he got something to say absolutely about it and everything. But, man, my thing is this. That might be Detroit. Yeah, that's Detroit. You know what I'm saying? But my thing is this, man. I got two on me, like two. You know what I'm saying? And then I turn around, the running back is running. He's five, six yards down the field. Like, my God. Like, if it's two on me, you got to step up and get him off of me or you got to make the tackle. Do something. You know what I'm saying? Foot, man, it's never his fault. It's always – when a dude run the ball, he want to look up at the jumbotron, look at the replay.

13:53No, I don't need to go. Don't look at the replay. You know what I'm saying? Get your jab, man. You tripping, foot. You know what I'm saying? But no, man. Foot my guy, though. And foot just like to argue about everything, and that's what it is. But me and foot, main arguments would be is if I'm out there and I'm making tackles and I'm doing my thing, and he ain't getting no tackles, or like he'll wake the defensive lineman, he'll wake the O-lineman up and be like, God damn you gonna block him today You gonna Like you know what I'm saying Like he telling off I'm like foot he's asleep Why you wanna wake the dude up Let him stay asleep man Like why you wanna cause problems for me Man let me just keep on whooping this dude man And get my thing He mad cause I'm making plays He wanna tell the dude to block me man Foot crazy Foot gonna do that Foot can't call no defense No he too busy arguing be arguing after every play be fussing about nothing like I mean like I heard foot just have arguments and just be cursing and just talking I'll be like foot you ain't even talking about nothing I think that's like how you get yourself going man you know what I'm saying he just fussed and argued with people man but like it was crazy man like and Posse the same way I get the bitching and crying and doing all that Posse hey him shut your fat ass up and get in a you know what I'm saying You know, Posse quiet.

15:20Posse tell you that. You know he got that voice and say it so smooth, man. Shut your fat ass up. Shut your fat ass up and get in the hug. You have to say something. Let me go. He didn't get in this hug, man. Oh my God. Them boys stayed on me. Bruh, I mean, and that's something else, dude. Like, the accountability to each other and being able to say something to somebody and them not take it as them being attacked. Like, yo, dude, if I can't talk to you, correct you, or tell you what the hell you're doing wrong, or be like, yo, what the hell are you doing wrong? We got a problem. Like, everybody's so sensitive nowadays.

16:01Dude, it's ridiculous. I think, man, I think with us, like back in the day, I know especially with, like, me, they running the ball and people saying, they say something to me. I don't look at it like you're getting on me. I feel like, oh, so you saying I'm a problem? Let me show you that I ain't the mother. Let me show you. I don't think they have that type of attitude. I feel like why you worried about me? No, you need to worry about me. I need to worry about you. That's what's going to make us better. You know what I'm saying? I don't think they don't have that in them. Everybody's so sensitive about everything.

16:32Please call me out if I'm the problem. Please let me know that I'm the problem. Like, I want you to be on my ass because that's going to make me step my shit up. You know what I mean? No question, bro. Listen, so the big thing, especially with Coach LeBeau, like, yo, everybody got to do their 111. If one dude messes up, that could strike up the whole band on that. Like, it's nothing that can't get corrected or be stopped as long as we are all on the same page. Even if they hit the defense, he would always tell us, yo, all right, if this happens, that's on the defense. make the tackle you know they usually may get you know somewhere between eight or ten at the worst 12 maybe and you know we make the tackle and he he say you know you just put that on me it's no it's no accountability from anybody now it's everybody pointing fingers at somebody else it's always somebody else's fault there's nobody they've got like yo that was me i'm gonna get that shit corrected like i just don't i don't know man i think um i think of the segment these dudes, man, it ain't no excuse because if the same defense is called and everybody running the same defense, like, it is what it is.

17:50Like, you can see who's tricking it off or who's messing it up. You just got to be able to accept criticism. You know what I'm saying? You got to be able to accept it and move on. You know what I mean? And I hope these guys, you know what I mean, they own that. I haven't been in that locker room. So, you've been in the locker room and you don't think that they don't accept that with each other or From what I've heard.

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21:27now I wouldn't say a lot. It was at least you know four or five different situations that were happening that you know I heard about where like yeah why don't y 'all move so and so here and they don't want to be there. They can't get this. You know what I'm saying? Can't do that man. It's an awful win. It ain't about no one person. Ain't no doubt about that. That's what makes a defense great man. It's about sacrifice man. You think, like I tell people all the time, like we just talked about, I'm letting my team in tacos my last two years. You think I don't want to go out there and make plays and get titles for loss and run down the line and make titles and stuff like that?

22:06Man, it took a lot, you know what I'm saying, for me when I first got there because I never really knew about that type of defense when you hold the lineman up and that's all you're really doing. You know what I'm saying? So I had to really sacrifice a lot. Oh, yes. and a sacrifice a lot. But it was easy for me because I came into a system and I had a defensive line coach at Coach Mitch, and I had Aaron Smith, who was already there, and Kimo Von Oldhoff, and I had those guys who were already there, who were super unselfish. Super unselfish. Could have been elite at their position doing different things, but they were elite at what they did.

22:47But they could have did way more, but sacrifice for the team, for the good of the team. and I've seen that. You know what I'm saying? Who am I to do anything different, man? I just fall right in line and do the same thing. How can you be mad when a defense and a run defense is as successful as we were all those times? That's when you get the joy out of, man, that the team's success. I think a lot of that is missing because God's trying to get that bread. You know what I mean? They're trying to get that bread or they're trying to get that shine, whatever that means. It all leads to the paper at the end of the day.

23:20but you know once you get the paper you want to show that yo i'm worth the paper so now you're looking for the numbers in whatever area that may be and if it's not conducive to you know you know you being able to do that at a xyz then that's you know that's that's just not what you you know that's just not what you're going to do um i don't know how do that for you to lead your and then have to come. You let your team in tackles, bro, and then come to the Pittsburgh Steelers where the first thing Coach LeBeau tell his D-line is, you are here so my linebackers can run. You are here so my linebackers can run.

24:03Not even that, man. What's so crazy is like when I get there, you have been slid through the line and made a tackle and Mitch will come yelling at you, mad at you. That ain't your damn play to make. You don't do that. Your job is to hold linemen up and don't. I'm like, God damn it. I'm thinking I done did an excellent job. You know what I'm saying? But it's all about the service. How did that make you feel the first time he did that, though? Oh, you know I was tripping. No doubt about it. I was so high. I'm like, man, this nigga tripping, man. Like, what is he talking to? Man, I done made the tackle.

24:38Dude ain't making no yards. And he mad at me. You know what I'm saying? but what made me not trip is he's doing it with everybody you know what I'm saying everybody is the same way like that ain't your play to make man one thing I can say man is having a coach that's consistently the same in all ways like that no matter what man you have no damn choice dude like he is not trying to hear nothing you're talking about and that's just what it's going to be you're going to hold these linemen off these linebackers and these linebackers going to make these plays because they're still awake. You know what I'm saying?

25:14When you watch film... Listen, you came into a system where you saw guys that were already bought in. You saw a coach that coached everybody the same. They gave you exactly what it was that you needed to do at the position, not the player. You don't give a damn about the players, about the position and what I need you to do at it. I ain't going to lie to you, but you did the best ever that I done seen, brother. I don't know why you ain't in the Hall of Fame. You know what I'm saying? They tripping. They don't understand the things that don't have numbers attached to it. You know what I'm saying?

25:47As far as I'm concerned, Brad, coldest nose tackle I ever played a game. It ain't nobody that done did it better than you. Like, as far as the ability to be able – like, dude, without you as anchor on that defense, bro, for those years, we don't come close to having what is it four or five number ones over that course of time bruh we was right I think what was different with us too though with our nose we played the true 3-4 it wasn't no back door it wasn't no get reached and just come behind the block I had to stay front side like that's what made that's what made our defense what it was man Like, you know what I'm saying?

26:38We stayed true to the old school 3-4 and didn't give in. Because, like, guys weren't even trying to block me no more. Guys would just take off running and just try to get me running sideways. Just try to just – the things just – just try to tie me up. But LeBow made us stay true. Like, I used to want to play the plus and get up the field and things like that. But LeBow was like, hey, our best defense is tight. Like, that's – when you play tight, well, that's when we play the best. You know what I'm saying? So, that's what it was. and that tight, you just in that zero, getting your ass eight up, man, and just taking them blocks on, man, trying to stay frontside the best you can and holding on, man.

27:15It just made a career out of it, man, and just, I don't know. It wasn't easy. Here's the crazy thing, Ham.

27:28What 95 % of people don't know is a true 3-4, ain't been ran since 2012.

27:42Even though Bo was there in 13 and 14, we know it ain't been ran since 2012. It was changed in 13. Really? It was changed. Certain aspects of it was changed. And it's been changed a little bit more each year after that to the point of in 14 when they ended up letting him go after 14, I believe it was. Or was it 16?

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28:07I don't remember I think it was I think it was so I came back out of retirement I came back in 14 so I came I retired in 14 then I came back in 14 it wasn't played the same no more they played certain things that were different bro it ain't been that true was the boat still there though? the boat was still there at 14 when I came back So was they playing the 2-0? They were slanting. They were doing all... It was... More moving. It was also just like as far as your linebackers. Your linebackers were doing was different too. Like, yeah, it ain't that true. But Deebo, that part of him... I know they was rushing a lot more though.

28:59But in 13, I think I went to Cincinnati. So in 12, remember, last year was 12, right? no yeah my last okay we were one that year so it was it was one one two five one one that was 2007 to 2012 and then 13 it was like 16 14 it was 19 something and then it didn't come back up until after like 17, 18, 19. I think it got to like fours, five or sixes, three, four, five or six or something like that for like a period of like three to four years, something like that. And then it went back down again. Who's rated in the teens? Oh, yes. 13? 14? Oh, yes. Oh, yeah. I didn't realize that. That was a long time.

29:57I remember yesterday. I remember way back then. Yeah, for sure. But that true, like the one that you ran in 12, was changed up in 13. And it was mostly changed to assist with getting players to be able to play without having to learn as much. So things were. Boy, you really got to be. you gotta know it. It ain't easy. It took you a long time to learn. Exactly. It took me a good two years, bruh. A good two years. Because I was so lost the first two years, bruh. I didn't even try. I was like, I ain't gonna be able to learn this shit, bruh. I don't even know what's going on. But after I went and sat down, I was like, you know what?

30:42You gotta take the time to be a true professor. Bruh, lay my bed on the floor, slept on the floor, bruh. Just be there all night. And something else, dude. Coach LeBeau. coach Lebow explained it so easily and then the extra time that I spent with butts bro it was the greatest help that everyone along like without when the last time you holla at butts huh man I ain't seen butts since he slapped me in the back at at a what is that the breakfast restaurant man he elbowed the hell out of me in my back. Man, I turned around. I was about to fire off, and then I saw it was him, bro. He was like, hey, boom, and just hit me.

31:23I was like, what the fuck? Bro, I was ready to fire off. Bro, that was like last year sometime, bro. Man, if you had to tap butts, he would have tipped over, man. But you can't do butts. No, no. Bro, you know how he gave me that forearm shiver, but I wasn't, I ain't even seen. He was, you know, he was with his wife, Juanita. He was with Juanita. Juanita, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, she would have got you a better run than him because Buzz with some hips, he ain't got nothing.

31:55Bruh, bruh, man, we got it. Listen here, bruh. I want to thank you, bruh, for coming on, but we're going to jump into these super chats. Bruh, you got anything that's going on before we jump into that? You got anything that you're into you want to talk about before we jump into these super chats because these people are going to be asking you some questions. D-Vo Ains, I ain't in that, man. You know, I'm sitting back, chilling, man, maxing, relaxing. I'm just enjoying it. Oh, shit, that's the case then? Listen, man, let me ask you about the new coach. What do you think of the new coach we got, man, the direction we're going with the Steelers?

32:34I mean, he a winning coach. I mean, he's a proven winning coach. That's all you can really ask for, you know what I'm saying? man, approved coach. They say he's the great at development quarterback. Yes, we need that. So, I mean, with his age, is he the long-term guy? I mean, just to get us started off, to start to get our quarterback going. I don't know, man, but I like the fact that he's won everywhere he's went. So, I like that aspect of it. So, hopefully, man, we'll keep that up. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, definitely. Hey, you see he hired Domita Pecco. Yeah, the D-line coach. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

33:24He played for Cincinnati. Yeah, no doubt about that. I see that. He was coaching. He was in, I want to say, was it Colorado? Probably so. I think so. As long as he know it, he damn so cool. But he's one of those guys that was, you know, he was like – he was more – I'm just talking to him, you know, offseason and talking to him. He was more of a, yo, you guys got to hold this down so they can, you know, be able to – that's where his thought process, you know, was as far as for his – his whole D-line as far as how it operated with a 3-4 in that sense. So that's a good thing, especially now. We did, but all those guys going to be able to adjust to that.

34:15Because them guys ain't used to holding nobody now. They ain't going to have no choice. It ain't going to be about what you want. It's going to be about what's best for the team. You got to buy in. You be going back two, three, four? I don't know exactly how they are going to run it, but I'm assuming they're going to go. It ain't going to be that Dick LeBeau style because you know Dick got his own thing that, you know, like he ain't even got a playbook. You know, all his stuff is in his head. I'm actually trying to figure out a time where I could go and sit down with him for about a hot week and get it up out of there.

34:52You know what I'm saying? That boy, he got it. He got it. Dude, people don't understand how difficult it is to sit there. how many defenses do you think we went over in training camp bro like we went over what 100 plus like we had 40 blitzes and then another whatever it was off of those blitzes so everything that we had a blitz off of we had something that didn't blitz that gave it teeth and then something that was the opposite of it that gave the other two teeth like people don't understand like once you change same thing we were talking about how they change the defense well you change with this dude is doing, you take away the teeth of three, four other defenses.

35:38Now you can't even use them because you done changed the aspect of it. But we were running the same shit over and over and they couldn't stop that shit. Oh, no question. No question. How many times we be on the side and Coach DeBoer come through at least, I'd say once every maybe four, six games. Hey, y 'all remember that defense we ran in training camp. Blah, blah, blah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. We about to run that next series because he's standing over there on the sideline and he sees something and he connects that all the way from damn August, bro. Like, oh, that's going to work here. But you know, LeBow has a photographic memory though.

36:26LeBow can tell you about a damn play 20 years ago. What happened? Was it raining? He tell you from his playing days at practice. That's crazy, man. That's what's crazy about LeBeau. He has a photographic memory. He remembers everything, dude. Everything. Bruh, I wish I had that, bruh. I'd be like, what'd you do yesterday? I'd be like, what the fuck did I do yesterday? God.

36:59Oh, shit, I did. I turned 48 yesterday. That's what it was. That's what it was. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. How old is you, Hemp? I am 48. I'm 48. What year was you born? 77, though. You was born in 77, though, right? Yeah, I'm born in 77. That's old as hell. You 50. Nah, why is it that? You 50. You about to be 50. You 49. You about to be 49. I'm 48. You about to be 49. You born in 77. Yeah, I'm about to be 49. Yeah, but you 48, right? You about to be 49. Let's not talk about what you going to be this year. 49. You 49. Nah. D-Bo, I'll be 49 this year, man. Might as well be 50, shit. Might as well be 50.

37:47When is your birthday? Yesterday. Hey, you get your AARP card, bro. I ain't got one of them, D-Bo. Listen, I'm trying to tell you, bro, you better get one. Listen, see, Ham, you and Joe, y 'all got that money, man. I ain't got that money like that, man. I got to get the discount wherever I can, man. Man, listen. Get you this AARP card, bro. You get discounts on everything. Insurance. Bro, you name it. How do you got to be 18 and older? It ain't for old people no more, bro. What do it do? You get discounts on everything. Everything. Listen, man. You think flights, hotels, whatever, man. Discounts on everything, bro.

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42:29We ain't got no AARP sponsor. B-Bro, that's what I'm going to say. You must be your sponsor. No, I'm dead serious, bro. Zero. I'll take one, though. You're damn right. Hey, y 'all come holler at your boy. Shit. I'll tell you that right now, but I will take one. Dead serious, bro. Need to get you one of them. Need to get you one of them. I'm on it. I'm definitely on it. I'm definitely on it. Boy, you crazy as hell, man. I'm trying to do it. I thought I was when they were sending that to my email, man. That's what they were sending it to me, too. And I was scared that if I took it, I was going to admit I was old.

43:05But I started looking at it. I read into it. And it's for 18 and older. They took away that age thing. You know what I'm saying? So if you 18 or older, your son can have it. You get this count. Health, everything. Health insurance. I'm trying to tell you. $20. You know me at$20. $20. $20. $20. $20 membership. You get all these discounts. Like I said, it already paid for itself with just the phone. The cell phones. That's it. That's it. Bruh. Super Chat, we got Eric Oboe $5.8 $5.2 $5. Debo for NFL Commissioner. Let's go. Nope. They want me for NFL commissioner. Devo for NFL commissioner. Let them boys hit again.

44:02Listen, ain't nobody bringing back hitting. Tell them him. Ain't nobody. Well, Devo. Not the kind of hitting we was doing, bro. They scared of that, man. Somebody going to get really, really hurt. Man, these boys is bigger, faster, stronger. Devo, somebody going to get hurt, man. They can't let them boys do that, man. That's the NFL's biggest fear of somebody dying out there on that field. That's their biggest fear, Devo. Oh, it didn't already happen. That ain't never happened before, D-Bo. Yes, it did. When was this? Bruh. Look it up. I want me. It was a Detroit line, I believe. They don't want that to happen.

44:46If it did happen, I don't want that shit to happen. Bruh, it was like 70, 80s. Look it up. I ain't know. That's crazy. They don't want that shit to happen again. That's crazy. that era Chuck Hughes, 1971 Really? And they let that shit go on way after that Until they started getting them cases, them suits Yeah Well, I think the head injury stuff had a lot to do with it too Yeah, that's what happened They were getting sued for the concussion lawsuits People, you know Well, y 'all had a lot Well, I kind of started it Like, you know what I'm saying? Y 'all was a knockout artist, but I, you know, my mind was in the bus way before y 'all.

45:28I ain't gonna lie. You put Eddie George asleep, though. Yeah, man. Hey, that boy, night, night, that boy, boy. He hit that boy so hard over there in that playoff game. That was the first game that I went to. And I was actually active for, bro. Oh, my Lord. You could hear it from the sideline. I said, ooh, nothing. He just went limp. I said, oh, Lord. And Eddie George, people, what was wrong with us, man, back in the day, being happy for knocking somebody out? Ham, ain't nothing wrong with that. What you talking about? It was celebrating. What are you talking about? Biggest hits of the NFL. You got jacked up.

46:03You don't remember all them when disaster hits. Like, they were selling that shit, bro. You wanted to be on there. Not getting hit, but you wanted to be putting somebody to sleep. Bro, they added sound effects to that stuff. Yeah, no doubt about it. No doubt about it. You wanted to get your body back in the day. Yes. That's what the league was selling. You wanted to get your body. Bruh, that's what the league was selling, bruh. Well, after I caught my body, man, I kind of felt bad. I just wanted to get him on the ground after that, man. I had to prove I was capable of that. I had to prove I was capable of that.

46:41You know what I'm saying? I just wanted to get him on the ground. I just wanted to get him on the ground. I had my – You want to throw a pillow down there too so he don't hit the ground too hard and make sure none of them thinders pop up in his eye and none of them rubbers pop up in his eye. Like, what the... Debo, man, you too violent, man. Like, Debo, man, we old enough, man. Bro, I don't want to do it now. I don't want to do it now, Ham. But back then, I did. I'm a changed man, Ham. Like I said, I said to my Lord and Savior, Ham. I'm good. I'm saved. Like, I'm better. I ain't good. I'm fighting.

47:17fighting for my life every day. You're doing the right thing. You're definitely doing the right thing. I'm better than I was. That's all I can hope for right now. Well, day-to-day getting better, man. That's all you can ask for. For sure. We got Bossman 930975. Debo, what did you and Troy say to each other when you knew you couldn't catch Larry Jarrell in Super Bowl XLIII? and win.

47:53Debo, why was you running so hard? I was trying to catch him. Debo, you had zero action. Listen, he did not pull away from me. I just couldn't catch up to him. Debo, Debo. Look at the film. I promise you, look at it. Stop it, man. You look like a RoboCop chasing that dude, man. Look at the film. I promise you. Look at the film. I could not catch up to him, but he was not leaving me, bro. I stayed the same distance. I promise you, bro. Until I realized he was about the 10-yard line. I was already like five yards behind him. I was like, I'm not going to catch him. Lebo, in your mind, did you feel like you was gaining?

48:38No, I knew I wasn't. But you were just so mad. You were like, I just dropped the ball and do anything. that you just wanted to do something. Bro, I was, I'm like, in my head, bro, I'm like, oh my God, we just lost a fucking game. And I'm like, I couldn't catch him. I'm like, I just fucking lost us a game. Nah, you. It don't matter, bro. That's why I was chasing him so hard. You felt like that was your fault. I knew it wasn't my fault, but I was there. I could have got there. I felt like I could have got there and I couldn't. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, bro. They got it back for us, Debo. Bro, I was so mad when they called that fake hold on what's-her-name in the goal line.

49:25When they called the fake hold. What was it? Who was our center at that time? He got ran over, and they said he held. He didn't hold. And Tone caught the ball. It was a first down. Game would have been over with. Who that ran? Who was the center? Was it Hart? It was Jeff? No, it wasn't Jeff. What's the other one? Hartwig? Hartwig, yeah. That's what it was. He didn't hold him. He just got ran over. Dude fell over top of him. Yeah. And it looked like... It didn't even look like holding. He just... Like this. And it was like, oh, it's a hold. He put him down. Oh, you're going to look back for the flag, too, though.

50:13No matter how you fall, you're going to touch your leg or did something. Bruh, I was like, bruh, dude, I'm still distraught thinking about it.

50:24Bruh, that's PTSD right there. But, like, I was – You got to be kidding me. When he took it, you got to – Oh, man, I could not believe it, boy. Man, to have you chasing Bebo, I knew he was out of there, too. I just want to let you know that. When you was the last line of defense, I knew it was a touchdown. I hate to chase him, but when I see him chasing him, I'm like, oh, it's a touchdown. I came in to chase him from this side like this, and he was already turning. I'm like, I'm looking, and I'm like, ain't nobody in front of him. I'm like. Oh, man. We was out of there, D-Bo. We was out of there, man.

51:01Me and Troy did not say nothing to each other. I don't. We didn't. Did anybody talk to anybody after that damn play, bro? No, we just had that look on our face. I think everybody was like, I can't believe we just tricked this game off. That's everybody. We was like, yo, we the codest defense out here, and we just lost this game. That's exactly what it was. But it came out how it was supposed to be, man. Like, you know what I'm saying? Team game, people. And that was a team win, that Super Bowl. That was a team win. They built us out. 100 % they built us out. They built us out, man. We needed that, Jack.

51:37No doubt. Woodley and Keys will close it out at the end. Let that tone get his shine on one time. We got Mike and Mike,$100. $5. He said, what up, Debo and Casey show. Okay. Casey, that picture of Pac and Biggie is dope as... I can say that. Dope as shit. I ain't supposed to be cussing because I'm trying not to cuss. I'm trying to clean up my vocals. You know what I'm saying? I ain't trying to be... But I said it. Sometimes I cuss a lot. But then I done lost a fight. I ain't been fighting though. So I'm good right now. He said, what is your favorite Tupac and also your favorite Biggie song? What's your favorite Tupac and your favorite Biggie song?

52:24I already know what my favorite Tupac song is. I'm not a song guy. I'm not a favorite song guy. I'm definitely in the Hail Mary, but I'm going to go, because I was in college when All Eyes on Me came out, so I'm going to ride all the way out. The whole thing. I'm going to give you the whole thing. If I can't ride your whole CD out, it ain't really popping. CD? What's a CD, Hemp? It was a CD in 96. A lot of people out here don't know what no CD is. They don't know what no CD is, Hemp. I got it, man. I had that life after death and I had it all eyes on me. CD. Rolling. That's D-roll, man. So you ain't have CDs?

53:12Yeah, I had CDs, bro. They didn't. The chat didn't. I know they ain't had no CDs, bro. When you asked me about Biggie and Tupac, and I said CD, because that's what I was rocking at the time. I'm pretty sure they don't know what a CD is. They ain't never probably even seen one. Google it. Google CD, chat. Google what a CD is. baby. Y 'all go find out or hit chat GPT or DBT. ABC. You know? Oh, I still got some CDs. I can turn around. Hold on. Hold on.

53:49Here, this is what y 'all looking at. It's like this. It look like this. Come on, man. It look like this. Y 'all just said, man. I told you. Listen, man. I told you. Listen, man. I'm trying to tell you. I'm trying to pull the CD out there. Listen, Ham. Listen. I'm trying to tell you I'm living, you know, I'm living meagally. You know what I'm saying? I still got a VHS too. I can pull out the VHS tape too now. Hey, Ham. Hold up. I got something for you, Ham. Hold up. I got something for you, Ham. I just thought about that. I'm glad you said that.

54:31hamstring hamstring where we at hamstring hamstring oh that's the old school where we at hamstring

54:45hey hey hold up hold up hold up hey hey hold up i got i got i got i got i got a peasy too i got a peasy too bro all these remember the show all of them hemp hemp listen hemp hold on Let me make sure. That's the club, man. That's the man at the club taking a little picture. Bruh. Do straight from the club. Yes, bruh. Bruh. Come on, man. Hey. Hey. Listen, Hemp. I got all. Bruh, I got so many in here, bruh. Oh, this is wild one right there. But I bet you can't name the club each one of them at, though, DJ. Huh? I bet you don't remember which club each one of them was at. For sure. I can tell you.

55:26Let me. All I got to do is look at the background. was either what's the one right there? Ballroom? Deja Vu? Deja Vu. They had a cameraman up in there, no doubt. The one dude, the little handy capable dude. Yeah! What's his name? I can't think of his name right now. Yes, he would come through wherever we was going to be at. For sure, for sure. I'm mad about that. He used to be moving his fingers all the time. Yeah. Yeah, I can't even think of his name, though. I can't think of his name. That's crazy. Hey. Pot dog. Debo, why? Bro, I told you, bro. We was out there, bro. Why was he wearing a big-ass coat back then, man?

56:13Bro, RIP, my man Clark Hagen. Man, triple A, man, triple A. Yes, sir. Come on. Bro, I got all this, bro. I got a whole bunch, bro. Hold up. They don't know about Young Ben. They don't know about Young Ben in there with us. Young Ben? Did he have his pizza chain on? Yes. Pizza chain and fade, Ben? Hey.

56:37Yeah, they don't remember that pizza chain fade. Pizza chain and fade, Ben. Yes, sir. For the show, man. For the show. Yeah. And we got Mike and Mike 100. He said ARP about to put Deebo in commercial. Yeah, they need to. Yeah. They need to. For sure, for sure. And they need to have me on them. No question. Yes. I put Big Snack on. You know? For sure. Look here, brother. I want to thank you, man, for coming on, spending some time with me, man, having a little bit of talk again. Appreciate you. You know, I believe you should be in the Hall of Fame. I don't know what they waiting on. I don't know what their process is.

57:22I don't know what their problem is. But hell, they ain't even let Bill in there. So I know shit. You can't do zero trippers.

57:34Hey, Debo, one more picture. The most iconic one of all time. Let me see it. Let me see it. The most iconic one of all time. Hold on. For sure, for sure. Hell yeah. That's the one right there, Debo. Yes, sir. That's the most iconic one of all time. That's still sitting up there with the trophy. Yeah, man. Yes, sir, man. Hell yeah, man. Appreciate you, brother. Again, man, thank you. It was good going down memory lane with you, brother. Everybody, we want to thank you for watching the show. We want to tell you to go like, subscribe, and download where you get your podcasts. and we will be back here.

58:24I will be back here. Hemp ain't going to be back here. But I will be back here. Hey, man. Hey. Next time, man, you got to have Joe on the show too with me, man. You done cheated. I ain't cheated. He had, listen, he had a family emergency. Tell Joe, man. I'm going to tell you. I'll be taking up. When you talk down on him, all that, I'll be taking up. No. No. I ain't going to lie to you, brother. This is really what happened, bro. He was like, I don't really fuck with him like that. I ain't coming on the show. Oh, get me back on the show. I got you. We're going to get you back on here, for sure.

59:01Yeah, man. I was losing ways in Cleveland. I got some fools back. Okay, we'll get you back on here, for sure, for sure. Look here, man. Thank you guys for joining us. Please, like, subscribe, download where you get sold. And we will be back here on Friday. We out.

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