Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Coach Prime takes heat, Jalen Hurts Not At AJ Brown's Wedding, 2030 SB in Nashville

19 May 2026 · 39 min · 16 chapters

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The episode is a sports-and-news talk between Deebo and Joe, mixing NFL rumors, off-field headlines, and NBA/Cavs playoff talk, plus lots of banter. They debate “leave well enough alone” and whether reading into Jalen Hurts not attending AJ Brown’s wedding means anything; they conclude it’s likely scheduling/contract obligations, not beef. They then react to news that former Jaguars coach Urban Meyer lost a grievance seeking over $30M in unpaid salary; they discuss the 2021 firing for cause, the Josh Lambo hostile-work-environment claim (alleged kicking during warmups), and a pending trial set for August 3. They speculate about why charges were dropped vs. why Meyer’s case remains. They also discuss Nashville hosting the 2030 Super Bowl, tied to the Titans’ new stadium opening around 2027, and argue about turf vs grass.

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Discussing Coach Prime's Comments

3:20 to 5:14

Analysis of Coach Prime's statement and potential implications.

“Yeah, I'm just, you know, like I said, I was just reading into the statement.”

Jalen Hurts and AJ Brown's Wedding

5:14 to 7:49

Discussion on Jalen Hurts' absence from AJ Brown's wedding.

“Because I done thought about everything that you're thinking about, and then I thought about the response that you was thinking, and then I'm thinking about the response that I'm thinking.”

Personal Perspectives on Weddings

7:49 to 10:24

Sharing personal insights and experiences related to attending weddings.

“I'm not diving into it because I really think that's A.J.”

Urban Meyer Lawsuit Updates

10:24 to 11:11

Recent news on Urban Meyer's grievance against the Jaguars.

“Just let me know what you need on the rest of you, man.”

Controversial Legal Case Against Coach Urban Meyer

15:38 to 17:32

Discussion on the ongoing legal issues involving Urban Meyer and the Jaguars.

“That makes me that man, he's the man taking it personal.”

Debating Coaching Style and Aggression

17:34 to 19:04

Exploration of Urban Meyer’s coaching style and its implications.

“It's been other things that, you know, I'm just saying, like, that's what it makes me think.”

Assessing Player Behavior and Coaching Impact

19:07 to 21:32

Analyzing how player actions and coach behavior interact on the field.

“I think this was 21 as soon as he got through with, I believe, the Gators.”

Legal Consequences and Team Dynamics

21:34 to 23:29

Insights into the legal ramifications and team management decisions.

“It looked like it said trial set for August 3rd so he can't be doing no talking.”

Nashville to Host Super Bowl 2030

23:30 to 26:05

Excitement and details surrounding Nashville's upcoming Super Bowl hosting.

“If you don't like it, take your punk ass off the show.”

Discussion: Nashville Stadiums and Grass vs. Turf

29:38 to 30:44

Exploration of Nashville's new stadiums and field types.

“I've heard nothing but good things about Nashville.”
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Discussion: Preparing for Nashville's Events

30:44 to 33:10

Preparing for Nashville events with style and attire.

“Each team getting that check,$400 million.”

Discussion: Cowboy Lifestyle and Skills

33:10 to 34:38

Humorous take on cowboy culture and skills.

“Say Debo and Joe on a real big round, like, old shape, like, you know?”

Discussion: Height and Playful Banter

34:38 to 36:43

Light-hearted debate over height differences between hosts.

“Both of them still averaging 35, and Luka can't barely dunk.”

Discussion: Measuring Height and Perception

36:43 to 39:50

Discussion on measuring height and perceptions of height.

“And then we're going to see who's taller.”

Height Competition and Family Dynamics

44:17 to 48:38

A light-hearted discussion about height, family teasing, and growing up.

“And go a line across your head right here?”

Super Bowl Memories and Predictions

48:39 to 53:44

Recollections from past Super Bowls and predictions for future games.

“It was colder than Eskimo pussy out there, motherfucker, bro.”
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3:25James Harrison:Yeah, I'm just, you know, like I said, I was just reading into the statement. You know what I'm saying? When you read and people say things, words mean things, Joe. And, you know, when you say, you know, better off if his father, Dion, leaves well enough alone. What's well enough alone? What are you saying that you know that he needs to leave alone because it's enough? It's well enough now without you. Just leave it alone. Don't say nothing. What makes me think you might know something? What is he getting at? I don't know. What do you think he's getting at, D-Bow? I don't know, Joe. I feel like he might have some inside information that he's not really letting out that I don't know.

4:10James Harrison:Like, hey, Joe, if I say, hey, Joe, man, listen, man. Hey, bro, you beefing with so-and-so, but I know this dude. may be out of his mind he a killer he ain't got no sense in what he feels is actually our a a a a a um an equal response to whatever it is you did he the type of cat that you went and you you you kicked something on his tire and he may come through and blow your house up i'm gonna say joe man leave well enough alone bro let that ride okay no i feel you but but look this is the same thing like what if he's out he what if he don't know nothing and he's just saying that he thinks you're your dad leave it alone get out the way you're messing up this opportunity coach don't want to talk to you yeah but you're saying leave well enough alone it's well enough right now just leave it alone you're not saying hey leave it alone get out the way let him go leave well enough for long.

5:09James Harrison:Yeah, well enough, it's throwing me off. Okay. That's what I'm saying, Joe. You got to read into this. I'm a thinker. I think about things, man. I'm an overthinker sometimes, too. You know what I'm saying? But that's a good thing. Because I done thought about everything that you're thinking about, and then I thought about the response that you was thinking, and then I'm thinking about the response that I'm thinking. But if you don't come with that response, you come with the other response I'm thinking you're going to come with. Joe, I'm like Coach LeBeau. Oh, yeah, yeah, the double and triple reverse.

5:36James Harrison:What are we talking about, baby? That's what I'm talking about. Like, you can't, sometimes you can add something into it. Sometimes you can take something out of it. Sometimes there's nothing there. But when you stay, things like this leave well enough alone. Hey, my son come up to me. Hey, Dad, man, can I stay out till 1 o 'clock? Da-da-da, man, it's the weekend. I'm trying to, you know, da-da-da. Yeah, son, it's good, it's good. oh man dad is really going down can I stay till two leave well enough alone son yeah don't even go because I might kick you back to 12 nah nah you can't you don't see me talking to Brown like that you can't yeah that's just I don't want to start listen man I don't want to start no shit over there in Cleveland because we know they started nothing don't worry about it we got a quarterback situation going on over there.

6:33James Harrison:Everybody's worried about it. We're going to be good. Hey, man, I'm just saying, man. I don't want to start no shit. Speaking of not starting no shit, Joe. I'm going to train the cam and go see what's going on out there. Joe, speaking of not starting no shit, Joe. I don't want to start no shit, but they say AJ Brown did not attend Du Bois. Sorry. I'm going to reverse it. Jalen Hurts didn't attend AJ Brown's wedding. Mm. Been busy. Mm. What that mean, Joe? Is there something there? We just. Nothing. They just reading into it. Nothing. It's got things. Everybody's bad schedules are crazy. And that is A.J.

7:17James Harrison:Brown's day. You know, if you can make it. Why it hurts a 10, though? Because, man, he's scared. That's a busy man. You busy? That's a busy man. A.J. Brown didn't schedule. How many, Joe, how many weddings, how many weddings did your teammates did you not go to? a couple, bro. Why? I know you told me you got beef with a couple of them. No, none. No beef. No beef. No beef. Just scheduling. What was the name, Joe? Just scheduling. No. Leave well enough alone? You telling me leave well enough alone? Leave well enough alone, D-Bo. Just scheduling purposes. I don't think it's nothing. I'm not diving into it because I really think that's A.J.

7:54James Harrison:Brown's day. He set up the wedding day. Sometimes schedules don't match up. Sometimes. I mean, it's one day. It's still love. One day, Joe? You can't make it one day for you. What? We don't want a Super Bowl together, Joe. Is it a destination? I don't know how far it is. We don't know. Joe, we don't want a Super Bowl together, though. What we going to do? He might be contractually obligated to be elsewhere. To not show up? No, to be elsewhere. Like, with a contract, he got big brands. Jalen Hurts got big brands that he got to be worried about. Jordan deal, big money. Got some stuff got going on.

8:32James Harrison:He might have had to do some signings, might have had to do some appearances. You never know. It's off season. When did you tell me about the weather? I'm just saying, man. Did I get invited to the weather? There we go. Everybody all in what's going on. Oh, so you saying he didn't even get an invite, huh? I did not say that. I did not say that. Hey, Joe, I ain't going to lie to you, bro. I ain't going to be messy. I ain't going to be messy at all. because, hey, bro, I ain't been to not one of my teammates' weddings. I don't think so, bro. Listen, no, I take that back. I take that back. I did go to Ben's wedding.

9:07James Harrison:I went to Ben's wedding. But the reason I've been to Ben's wedding is because it was here in Pittsburgh. I am not traveling nowhere to go to a wedding. Listen, you can invite me. I'm going to hit your registry. I'm going to get you something. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to scoop up enough pennies. You know what I'm saying? and do what I got to do to find some money to get you something, you know what I'm saying? But I ain't showing up because if I even got a workout that I'm a miss and I can't do everything I need to do at wherever you're at to go to your wedding, bro, I'm sorry. It's your day.

9:41James Harrison:It is about you. Me being there is not going to affect you in any way, shape, or form. And if it does, you got a problem. That's why I appreciate us talking about this. Okay. I am not coming. I'm sorry. I done had teammates getting married and all that. Like, I went to Ben's. It was perfect. I literally had to go two exits down the road. Other than that, I ain't went to nobody else's wedding. I've been, though. I've been to the club. I've been to TJ's out in Mexico. That joint was fire. Like, I ain't. But I feel you, Debo. I feel you. Listen, I ain't giving a lie to you, man. I just got to the point.

10:20James Harrison:I just got to the point. I've been telling him, hey, man, don't even invite me, man. I ain't going to lie to you. I ain't going to come. Just let me know what you need on the rest of you, man. I don't want you to waste the money on the invitation because I'll be spending big money on the invitation. Yeah, yeah. You can just respect the RSVPs, you know what I'm saying, to be respectful of the RSVPs. Let them know. I can't attend, but send something nice. Boop. Yeah. Keep it moving, man. Keep it moving. Respectfully. Brother. Whoa. It says, former Jaguars head coach Urban Meyer has lost his grievance against the team seeking more than$30 million in unpaid salary.

11:00James Harrison:And that is from Brett McMurphy. What in the world? Urban Meyer ain't coached since when? That was back in the... He was with the Jags for that time, man. okay it says um they're firing him or they fired him on december 16 2021 11 months after he was hired after a 2-11 record multiple off-field incidents and kicking and josh and the kicker josh lambo allegedly alleging that mike that myers kicked him in the leg while he was stretching in warm-ups before practice during the week of the final preseason game what the flip

11:56James Harrison:it says lambo filed a lawsuit against meyer and the jaguars in may of 2022 alleging meyers created a hostile work environment and the team did nothing to stop it

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15:38James Harrison:Dismiss all charges against the Jaguars with prejudice, and that was just February of this year but his case against Myers is still pending in Duval County Court records and a trial is set for August 3rd bro bro this sound this sound fishy man is that the one that's for August 3rd is that for the that's for the actual that's for just Myers the dude dropped his I know that's what I'm saying is that just just Myers just Myers yeah okay dude he dropped the charges that he had against the Jags and Myers kept the charges for Meyer and I don't know Joe that sounds fishy to me listen you know me Joe now I'm thinking my wheels are spinning Joe my wheels spin why you go drop the charges against the bigger conglomerate.

16:38James Harrison:That's a multi-billion dollar company. That makes me that man, he's the man taking it personal. Huh? Huh? No, hold up. Hold up. Maybe. Maybe he could be taking it personal. Or maybe. Like I said, I'm just thinking outside the box. I'm alleging that things could possibly happen. that maybe the Jaguars got a hold of Lambeau and said, hey, look here, you drop this on us. We slide you maybe three, four, nearly. And in that process, it allows us to not pay him 30. I'm just saying.

17:33James Harrison:I don't know. It's been other things that, you know, I'm just saying, like, that's what it makes me think. I don't know. Because I think everywhere. I'm here, I'm near. And on top of it, on top of it, hey, you ain't got to drop the one on Meyer. You can keep that. Let us up out of it. We slide you a little something. You can still go and double back and get that personal hit on him for putting his hands on you. I'm just saying, what's your thoughts, Joe? I'm just, I love Curbs from my eye. That's my dog. He coached me at Florida. So this is just a, it's just a thing. What kind of Joe? That's great.

18:17James Harrison:That's great. Joe, what kind of coach is Urban? Is he the type of guy that would walk around and just kick somebody? Ooh, that's not a good response, Joe. He used it back in the day. I ain't never seen him kick nobody. I ain't never seen him kick nobody. Never seen him kick nobody. I said, is he the kind of coach that would – Okay. I mean, the pause is gone now. But I think it was a delay of thought because we know how Joe responds when he's got a thing. But it's okay. It's okay because you said he's never kicked anyone. Obviously, it's been some things that you might have seen that you was like, yo, that's a little questionable because your pause – That was back in the day, you know.

19:04James Harrison:Paul's told me that. Gators. Well, this was back in the day. I think this was 21 as soon as he got through with, I believe, the Gators. He come fresh into the NFL. Yeah, it was a wild. He had a real good, he had a straight up aggressive coaching style, but he never touched nobody. Okay. Okay. More mental. I understand what you're saying, but you got to realize when people get excited and they get frustrated, the first thing that get going is your hands. You get animated. And then if you're getting something that you're not expecting to get or is against what you're doing and you're getting pushback, then it may turn to physical.

19:55I'm just, you know, I'm just shooting it out there from the psychology of how the hands work.

20:01James Harrison:I don't know. I don't know. Like you said, when you're an aggressive coach, you know, you may get aggressive tendencies. I'd have just been playing in like he said it was in the stretch line. I just can't see you kicking somebody. I ain't going to lie to you. It wasn't even possible. Like he was stretching. Who was the Lambo dude though? Kicker. Like where is he from? I'm like, he said it was the final practice from the final preseason game. Obviously, he didn't make the team. I think he might have just been like, man, you just out here. He was kicking me. He might have gave him an A, come on, just like one of those.

20:48James Harrison:I just don't see you. You can't put your feet on somebody, dude. You can't do that. Hey, look, while you're out there stretching the whole team. It's spitting and kicking. spitting and kicking you can't do that spitting is the worst you should be able to kill somebody for spitting on you oh lord I'm saying this should be legal recourse so keep a spit to yourself yes like and if he did kick him depending on it don't matter even how he kicked him though because that is that's like that's assault so if I'm getting cut and I ain't got no other choice maybe uh I need to figure out, somebody need to figure out who is Josh Lambeau?

21:31James Harrison:Where he's at? What is he doing now? Since the 2021 season. I need to know. I'm going to call Herb. I got to figure out. Herb can't say nothing, man. He's still got to pin the case. He's going to trial August 3rd. Okay. It looked like it said trial set for August 3rd so he can't be doing no talking. Call him August 4th and let me know If it's settled After it gets settled Let me know, we're going to figure it out Joe Okay I just don't see You know how you would To kick something

22:13James Harrison:You're not going to I don't understand that one But also you had the one coach that was over there in Arizona That gave old dude all the work And he didn't do nothing That was in the game, live, frustrated, action you ain't did listen you don't do that on game day if you ain't did that in practice that's something he done did somewhere else you know what i'm saying i don't i don't start off being you know i don't start off kicking ass and being so comfortable with it that i decide to do it on game day no i done practice that like everywhere sure that's for sure in training camp listen something happened because they got him for cause brother they got him for cause that's why he wasn't that's why they were able to deny the 30 million yeah so something and whatever the off field incidents are I don't even know what the multiple off field incidents when uh we going to wait I don't know Joe I'm just reporting the news.

23:22James Harrison:I'm just showing what they said. I'm just reading what I saw, man. They ain't gonna give Miss 30 because they said they fired him for cause. Hey. Then the man got him. The punter trying to sue. So we gonna see what it do. They said don't lie, Joe. People said don't lie. They said, hey, kiss my... Yeah. I ain't gonna say it. Dark Side of the Moon. Mm-hmm. I read how I read. Y 'all just deal with it. If you don't like it, take your punk ass off the show. Let him know, D-Bow. This is what we do. We do what we want to do, how we want to do it. Old time. Kid rocks. You on here because you want to see what we doing.

24:12James Harrison:You gonna sit here and complain? Get your punk ass out to chat. Yeah. They like it when you talk to them like that. Because now they want to talk more. And I want you to see what it is that you say. I ain't listening to nothing that you say no more. Talk crazy to them. Talk crazy to them. Exactly. Joe, man, they say Nashville will be getting the Super Bowl in 2030, bro. Like, Nashville getting the Super Bowl. I ain't going to lie to you, man. I done heard too much positive stuff about Nashville. Nashville is expected to be named host of Super Bowl 2023 by the NFL owners. They will vote for it.

24:55James Harrison:The city on today during the spring league meetings. This will be the first time the music city will be host of a Super Bowl with the event showcasing the Titans new stadium, which is expected to be open in 2027. So they go get a Super Bowl there fresh three years right after they open up their new stadium. I heard too much good stuff about Nashville. I gots to be there, Joe. Yes. Yes. That's what I'm telling you. That's why these teams making that new stadium is incentivizing because the Super Bowl going to come to your spot. That's why my good old Browns building that fire stadium just in time.

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29:36James Harrison:They're going to call me out the tunnel. I ain't going to lie. I've heard nothing but good things about Nashville. And I'm just about them boys getting these new stadiums. Do you know if they're going to have grass or turf? That, I don't know, Joe. I would hope. I don't know why. It's grass now, right? Yes. Yes, it is grass. I don't know why it would not be grass. Oh, I hope it. I think I know the Bills knew. I do know Bill's new one is going to be grass. That's for sure. I got to see if the Titans won. Because everyone, if they build these new stadiums,$2 billion. Listen, roll the field in and out.

30:11James Harrison:Roll it, dude. You got so much. Come on, man. You know what it is. Roll the field in and out. Take care of your people. Like, y 'all make enough money, bro. It ain't about the money thing, bro. A thousand percent. It ain't about the money thing. Like, come on now. I mean, it is about the money because y 'all trying to hold on to as much of it as you can. I understand. But you still got to take care of the players. The feel part, you got to put that in. You got to keep your pride up. You got to put that. You got to put that in there. Yes. Mandatory. Each team, everybody. Crazy thing, because 2030 is the last deal under this current collective bargaining agreement.

30:43James Harrison:Hmm. Right now, them boys still hitting. Each team getting that check,$400 million. And the cap,$300 and something. So, 75 to the good off rip. Like, which I, listen. I'm trying to tell you. I'm going to that one, though. I might, no, I ain't going to lie. I ain't going to go to the game. Let me stop. But I'm going to Nashville for sure. Oh, for sure. I got to see what's going on. And I'm wearing all the country stuff. I'm going to go get me some boots. I'm going to go get boots, bro. I'm wearing some tight jeans. So tight, bro. Oh, no. Yes. Hat. It got to be that tight. It got to be crazy tight.

31:22James Harrison:Bro, you going to see my calves flexing. Oh, you going to have on the legging jeans. Tight. Tight jeans. boots are you going to have the shirt tucked in big belt buckle big belt buckle huge bro cowboy hat wow whatever the shirt is that I need to have that say I'm Nashville I'm Nashville that's it I'm going to walk 15 to 30 15 yards behind you and just watch the people that pass you. They're going to be looking back. They're going to say, hey, damn, that man look good. Look at him. He's the strongest cowboy I've ever seen. Ever seen. Ever seen, Joe. What are we talking about? I know you got cowboy hats already, because I got a lot of cowboys.

32:18James Harrison:I ain't going to lie to you, Joe. I don't really have one. I kind of separated a lot of my inventory.

32:32James Harrison:But what I'm going to do, though, is I'm going to get me a fit to every kind of event. Now, you know they got dress boots, they got work boots, they got casual boots. They got dress hat, they got work hat, they got casual hat. They got dress jeans, they got casual jeans, they got work jeans. I'm going to get me one of everything, Joe, if not two. And when I go to these events, Joe, They gonna think I was born and bred. Right there. Right there in Tennessee. Okay, no, for sure. I'm gonna look like I was ready, too. Matter of fact, bro, I might even make me a nice Debo and Joe buck belt. A belt buck.

33:09James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? Okay. Okay. Nice one. Say Debo and Joe on a real big round, like, old shape, like, you know? I'm gonna bring us the fedoras. You know? You might do a little two-stepping, three-stepping. shit kicking, heel kicking. Yeah, I'm doing all, Joe. I might even just say the hell with him, riding my horse on in time. Yes, you go get your horse from my boy, from Keith? No, I'm going to let James ride this out. I'm going to need something with a stronger back. I'm going to have to get me something that's at least 20, 21 hands. You know? You don't know nothing about that. That's measurement of a horse.

33:52James Harrison:Yeah, that's measurement of a horse, son. It's okay. I teach them something. Same way. I'm gonna teach you how had a fish. I'm gonna teach you about these, about these horses and these cows and these stairs, and these, I'm gonna teach you all about all didn't. Before we get on down there, the Nashville come up.. I'ma teach you about all, I'ma teach you about this basketball, I'ma teach you about this Euro step, I'ma teach you about this sham guy. I'ma teach you about this crossover, teach you about this Euro, teach you about this floater. You go teach me or you go show me people that do it. I'm going to do both.

34:26James Harrison:I'm going to show you my calves do it, and then I'm going to show you... With that raggedy hip you got? Man, that hip is nice and loose right now. Come on, man. You see that, people? I'm a little bit less above the rim. It's more Luka. It's more Luka than Anthony Edwards. Less above the rim, Joe. Both of them still averaging 35, and Luka can't barely dunk. so I'm on my look of donches right now. My footwork is impeccable. Who you shooting over? You know I taller than this. You, I'm shooting over. You ain't shooting over at me. Joe, I tower over you. I'm shooting over. Deebo, I'm taller than you.

35:05James Harrison:We and you five in the same height. We the same height. I might be taller than you. Yo, we gonna stand next to each other. Man, I'm damn near two and a half, three inches taller than you. I'm taller than you. No, you not. Yes, I am. No, you. That's crazy. Yo, man. That's crazy. Hey, man. At worst case, we the same height. Hey, can somebody please pull up? Who's taller? Oh, man. Like, we know who's taller, Joe. Yo, that's crazy. Joe, since when did you be counting six foot, Joe? Brother, I'm... What? I'm 5 '11". Right. I'm six foot. No, you are not. You're 5 '11", too. That's a lie, bro. I'm six foot.

35:48James Harrison:You're lying. Yo, why is you sitting here? Because you, brother, you're getting older. Bro, I know I can't. I can't. It's rubbing off on you, bro. Do you not know? Do you not know? Do you not know? Do you not know? Do you not know you start getting shorter as you start getting older? Yo. And you're starting getting shorter now. So you're literally, you're 5 '11". Joe, I'm 6 '4". I'm giving you 5 '11 right now. Joe. I'm giving you 5 '11". You ain't no spring chicken. You 5 '10 now. No, sir. What is you talking about? What is you talking about? I'm 5 '11", brother. 5 '11", in what world? You're wildin'.

36:25James Harrison:The same world that you're six foot? I'm six foot in everywhere. I'm six foot on the earth, period. Man, listen. Somebody pull up. Man, I'm going to get a picture. Somebody pull up my staff, man. Next time I see you soon, I see you guys what I'm going to say. Man, take your shoes off, bro. Take your shoes off. I'm going to take my shoes off. And then we're going to see who's taller. Yes. Yes. I'm going to be taller than you, Joe. And then when I'm taller than you, don't be talking crazy. Damn. You are taller than I thought, Joe. Joe, you're not going to be taller than me. You're going to tell me, dang, Joe, you're six foot two.

37:03James Harrison:Me and you're six foot two. You're not taller than me. You're not going to be taller than me, Joe. It's an impossibility. Because you're not. You're stronger than me. Your arms are bigger than mine. And I'm taller than you. Joe, you're not taller than me, Joe. Can you please look at us walking together, Joe? I'm taller than you, Joe. You had on dress shoes too, Joe. Who? You, when we was at the draft. You had on dress shoes too, Joe. I was still taller than you. Man, I had on them joints. I was flat. Bruh, I was still taller than you. It's okay, Joe. It's okay. Like you. What's up? The chat just said, I'm six foot, you 5 '11".

37:47James Harrison:Yahoo says, Debo six foot, Joe 5 '11". Facts. Yep, yep, yep. I'm telling you, that's measurements. Measurements, I'm telling you, they're... Oh, my goodness. They said the Tennessee Titans will have turf. You started lying, they're going to have turf. I just sent it in the chat. David Little said the Tennessee Titans will have turf. Wow. David Little-V. That's not good. Z6TD. That's not good.

38:20James Harrison:Hey, Joe, they said you had pumps on at the draft. See, Joe, it's five. Oh, they said you five nine. No, they're just trying to be funny now. They're trying to be funny. No, they're not, bro. I'm just, why would the chat do this? They don't do this. They don't pick sides. Debo and Joe, they love us both. All they do is speak facts. they ain't speaking no they do research they check it out for us like they said that's crazy they said somebody is wearing lifts joe steven jackson 30 41 said somebody wearing lifts steven jackson that's what he said you are not six foot tall and i am not six foot tall i'm five foot eleven joe you ain't i'm six foot joe i was actually a little over six foot Where?

39:08James Harrison:Where? Where? In my measurements on my rookie year from the NFL. I was six foot three quarter. No way. Yes. You was 5 '11 to 7 '8. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. You being so disrespectful right now. Because that's what I'm telling you. Dude, do you realize that I go over this with my kids every day? They measure me every day. Okay. Every day. I'm six foot every day, Joe. Do you do are you doing this with shoes on? No, barefoot. You want me to show you the marks in the basement in the furnace room where we mark? Amazon Health AI presents painful thoughts. I, I can't stop scratching my downtown. Yeah, but I'm not itching to go downtown and tell a receptionist I'm here to talk about my downtown.

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44:20James Harrison:And go a line across your head right here? Yeah. Yes, I can show you that. I'm going to show you that. I'm going to believe it when you show it to me. They've been fighting because they want to get taller than me. No. Henry going to get taller than me. I'm going to lose on that one. I ain't going to lie. but James I don't think he got a chance I don't think he got a chance and he was talking cash money he was talking cash money dude oh dad I'm almost taller than you I'm 5 '10 I'm this and that he was in like freshman or 8th grade or something like that I said hey be careful I said I've been 6 foot since the 8th grade buddy it was over with you got in 8th grade you got I was six foot in the eighth grade and I got no taller from there.

45:08James Harrison:It was over with. And look at him now. He like 5 '11", but he got one inch in the last four or five years. Uh-huh. He got one inch in the last three, four years. Uh-huh. Yeah, talking all that cash. And then, hey, hey, Joe. And then he told me like, dad, you getting gray hairs and all that. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, okay, that's cool. Hey, he got like three of them already. I'm like, you got gray hairs already, son. You only 18. Wow. Oh, it's bad for you. It's going down. It's going down, son. It's going down. He said his wisdom. I said, nope. Nope. That's what's talking shit. That's what's talking shit.

45:42James Harrison:And be great. Young got to be. Yep, yep. It'll be OG. See, you don't stretch, Joe. That's the big thing. You don't stretch. I stretch. I do stretch. I keep my limber. I keep my flexibility, Joe. I do stretch. You know what I'm saying? I seen you trying to stretch that broke hip. You can't. It don't do nothing. Like, Joe, you remember when we was at the Super Bowl? Right, yeah. It's a little time working on it. Little? Working on it, man. Bruh. He was in the jump, too. Man, man, my mama hit work better than that. No way. She done had it replaced. I'm still dunking, though. You ain't dunking on nothing, Joe.

46:22James Harrison:I'm dunking 10 feet, still dunking. Can you dunk still? No, I told you I can't after I had my back served. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. OK, my bad, yeah, for sure. Yeah, yeah. Well, let's go ahead. I'm definitely dunking. You're going to see who's taller, and we're going to see if you can dunk. I'm going to show you I can dunk, and then I'm going to show you that I'm the same or a little bit taller than you. You're not taller than me, Joe. You didn't measure yourself since your back surgery. Yes, I have, dude. I measured myself. Listen, man, you think I am? Final. At least three times this year, they trying to catch me.

46:54James Harrison:They trying to make like they taller than me. It ain't happening yet, Joe. Let me tell you something. I ain't giving up nothing. My little son, Joey, he going to be taller than me, for sure. He's nine, and this little man is four foot ten. Yep, at nine. He almost there. One more inch. One more foot. Oh. There you go. My bad. I got confused. My bad. I'm sorry about that, brother. Jetty, seven years old. He's probably going to be around my height. He's four foot two. Because when I was in the ninth grade, Debo, I was five foot three. 5 '3", 5 '4", in the ninth, starring varsity freshman quarterback, looking like a 5 '3", 135.

47:42And then when I left, I was 5 '10 and a half, 5 '11", 185.

47:50James Harrison:And you ain't grew since? No, 175. No, I ain't. Yep, I stayed around that size. Yeah, yeah. It's okay. I stayed at 5 '11". You're not, and you probably ain't even 5 '11", because I'm so much taller than you now that I think about it. You ain't 5 '11". You're, you, okay, we'll see. I'm just telling you. You got them NBA numbers. The NFL, they're going to award, I guess, the 2028 draft to Minnesota. Minneapolis, next year is in D.C., and then we got Minneapolis the year after that. You ever been over there, bro? I played a Super Bowl over there. I don't know what it's going to be like, but it was cold.

48:33James Harrison:It was, dude, it was colder than, like, bro. It was so cold there, bro. It was colder than Eskimo pussy out there, motherfucker, bro. I'm trying to tell you. Oh, Lord, bro. They said they got one of the, I don't know, they probably got one of the biggest malls. Oh, the mall is fine now. The mall is fine. That was the only thing I did. The hotel we stayed at the barrio? It was connected to it. Yes, yes, yes. That's why I went to it. Connected to the hotel. Mall was fine. walked around. It was nice. It was indoors, so it was cold as I don't know what outside, so we never had to go outside. It was negative I don't know what.

49:07James Harrison:Yeah. Come on. Anyway, man, let's hit these super chats before we get out of here. Oh, we only got one super chat. That's great. We got one super chat from Hex Tanner. Five dollars. Joe. Go need one of them rubber ducky That's crazy. crazy devices. That's crazy work. You take him fishing. Mad love, Joe. Should have been a stealer since day one. Hey, he couldn't have been a stealer since day one because we would have never been that sorry to go draft that high. I was drafting too late, but y 'all could have traded up for your dog, but it's all good. I ain't think about that. I ain't think about that.

49:56James Harrison:But, you know, No, no, no. It's all good. Everything happened. Y 'all got pouncy. Everything happened for a reason. Y 'all got pouncy. You know what I mean? For sure, for sure. I shall never stay. Y 'all made a wrong pick picking my dog. Pounce. Got to be more careful. The center, he stayed there for. It's just Pro Bowls on Pro Bowls on Pro Bowls. Yes, sir. He's hard. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. No rubber duckies over here for me. I'm going to be good. D-Bug. Hey. You know how to swim. You good. I'm a... What? Can I swim? We ain't jumping in the water. I'm going to jump in. It's cold water, Joe.

50:31James Harrison:It's cold water now. I can swim anywhere. I ain't scared. We have one person that actually jumped out. I jumped in the bay. Me and the kids, we jumped in the bay. We had one person, they jumped while they were in the ocean. It could be a lifeboat. No, I wouldn't have did that, bro. I would have been scared. I was scared of jumping into the bay, bro. I'm talking about my swimming skills. I could do it. Fearful of what's in there, completely different. game. I'm not, yeah, I'm not rocking with none of that stuff that's in there. We got to make sure no sharks in there. Ain't nothing there but salmon sharks.

51:06James Harrison:Some salmon sharks in there. You don't want to, I don't know if they want to hit you. I don't know. I don't know. But they got sharp teeth. They eat salmon, though. They shouldn't bite you. You jump in first then, fool. They got orcas, too. I'm really trying to fish. I'm really trying to fish. They got orcas. Don't need none of that. humpback whales. All that. Yep. Workers and humpbacks. But we're not, you're not trying to jump in there with them. No, no, no. That's why I jump in at the bay. Okay. You might get a, you know, you might get a whale come through there. Okay. He got lost in the traffic.

51:41James Harrison:He'll wander through in and back out. Yep. But yeah. But when he's coming through, I'm going to just get back in the boat. They got sea otters though. You see them sea otters. Yeah. All that's cool. All that's cool. Well, look here, Joe. This is what we're going to do, man. I'm going to go ahead and check out this Cavs game at 8 o 'clock, bro. Yes, you are. And I'm going to watch when New York put them on. And I'm just going to hit you like I did last time. Hi. Here we go, Cleveland Cavaliers. I'm going to ask y 'all right now, and this is for me to you. Do this for the city. Do this for the land.

52:20James Harrison:James Harden, I know they've been out here talking greasy about you. And not me. I believe it's your time do what you gotta do that step back that double step back that everybody's loaned the love that travel nobody's talking to you Debo I'm talking to James Harden and I'm talking to Cleveland we need you James Harden it's time Donovan Mitchell you made it now to the Eastern Conference Finals I'm so happy for you you're my man you're having Coco on the sideline bring your old lady to the games I love it Donovan keep doing your thing Spider Mobley and Jared Allen Please do not let Carl Anthony Towns and Mitchell Robinson go out there and try to act like they know what they're doing.

52:59James Harrison:Our big men. Y 'all are our big men. Come out there and play defense like you did versus Detroit in game seven. We need this. Come on. Let's steal game one from New York in Madison Square Garden. Show them that we're not playing. They got a seven-and-a-half point underdogs? Are they tripping? Are they tripping? Let's go. Should have been 10. I don't want to hear none of that, D-Bow. Should have been 10. I don't want to hear none of that. Look here, look here. Joe is out here talking reckless, out of control. Come on. What I want to do is thank you guys for joining us on this episode of Debo and Joe.

53:35James Harrison:Please make sure you like, subscribe, and download where you get your podcasts. Joe. See y 'all on Friday. Let's go Cavs.

53:50James Harrison:Cut that shit. You said let's go Cavs, Debo. Give me a let's go Cavs. Here we go, Steelers. I don't care about the Cavs. We out this way.

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