Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Cowboys Sign Von Miller + Seahawks Extend Devon Witherspoon

23:10James Harrison:Yeah. Gotta do, wait, wait in for him. He get off the plane, he go to the terminal. He go to the terminal, got that just holding it right here. Got his name played. Yep, waiting on him. That baggage plane. No question. No question. Listen, bro, I guess Von Miller has reportedly agreed to terms with the Cowboys. Go ahead, Von. Go ahead, Von. Yo. Man, 37 now. They don't need to come in. He got nine last year at the Commanders. He got nine last year. He got nine last year. I mean, that's more than a lot of people that I know. So I'm like, until— You think this going to help them get a playoff win, brother?

23:49James Harrison:Vaughn ain't going to hurt. Vaughn ain't going to hurt. They got Vaughn. They got Williams. He's not going to hurt their D-line. He's going to bring some veteran leadership. I don't know what the bag is, but I know Vaughn trying to still play. He got nine last year and six tackles for loss. that's actual production so like we're gonna bring Vaughn in you know what I'm saying see he can do it again but I know Vaughn think he's still getting 10 he's still working out he's still he's never stopped so like it's not like he's coming off the couch retired no Vaughn played for the commanders last year had nine sacks and six jun and six uh tackles for loss so maybe not a like 16 game starter but man you're telling me it's third and long Vaughn got skills he can go get him some sacks he can make something happen.

24:32James Harrison:So definitely, I don't think it's like, oh, this is going to bring us over the top, but Vaughn on your team isn't hurting. I'll agree with you. I'm not going to say it's going to get them a playoff win. But if you didn't think the Cowboys were going to get a playoff win before Vaughn, then it's like, all right, maybe not. But, you know, they in the picture. I ain't seen enough improvements on the defense that I feel like it's going to be enough production to accommodate a win. That's my only go-to. But on the offensive side, CeeDee Lamb believes that in 2026, he and George Pickens can be the best ever, Joe.

25:19Joe, they talking about better than what we got here. Randy Moss, Chris Carter, Larry Fitzgerald, Antoine Bolden. Isaac Bruce, Torrey Hope, Jerry Rice, and T.O. Ooh. Jamar Chase and T. Higgins. Yo, do you think like they can top them guys? What is that? One, two, three, four, five, six, seven. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven. Is that eight Hall of Famers?

26:00James Harrison:I mean, that's the only reason why. I think he's talking about numbers. He's talking about numbers. He's talking about numbers because he's talking about individual seasons. This is longevity. This is doing it together for a long time. If you're looking at them like, can they out beat one of their seasons? Can both of them go for 1 ,500 and 10 touchdowns apiece? Then if that's what we're talking about, maybe so. because I think CD and George Pickens are both ones. You know what I'm saying? And you have Dak Prescott. Oh, yeah. He's going to put up. His numbers are never not extremely high. So I think with the offense, the way that they put up crazy numbers, I think when you go about Randy Moss, Chris Carter, we talk about, like, longevity, how good.

26:45James Harrison:If you're talking about for one season, the numbers they could do it. Both of them could put up 1 ,510 tuts. And then I want to see how many touchdowns in yards that these duos had together. but like over a career Isaac Bruce and Torrey Holt when they had Oz Akeem that's greatest show on turf that was just you knew Kurt Warner and they were doing it for years like four years in a row so that's what when you were Chris Carter and Randy Moss they was Randy Cunningham and Culpeper so like if you're gonna do it you're gonna these dudes they was doing it for a long time it's one season maybe we had better stats than them I could I could see it happening for sure because there's two number ones on the team.

27:22James Harrison:They still haven't been able to pay Pickens because he about to try to get 40-some a year. You're already giving CD 35, so you got two dudes that are legit ones. And Dak coming up again. Dak coming up and Dak getting 60 a year, so he's ready to go and do what he got to do. I need 70. Hey, man, that's what y 'all want me to do. Y 'all want me to stay here? I need 70. I'm Dak Prescott. Grass ain't always green on the other side. Give me 70 or go ahead and pay somebody else 50 in and see what happens. I'm slinging that ball. What y 'all gonna do? Matter of fact, do you know who has the highest total?

27:58Highest total? For two receivers on the same team? You'd never guess, bro. And they're not on this list?

28:08James Harrison:No. Wow. Well, no, I wouldn't have guessed it then. Who? Detroit Lions. 1995. Herman Moore and Brett Pierman. Bruh, 16, 16, 86 or more and 14, 88. Okay. That's what I'm saying. Three, four, 31, 31, 74. Yo, guess who the quarterback was? Some dude named Scott Mitchell. 4 ,300 yards, bruh. 4 ,300 yards, bro. 95. That was a 16-game schedule, bro. And them boys got 3 ,100. Now, hold up. That ain't it. Bro, that ain't it. That ain't it. Barry Sanders still had 1 ,500 rushing that year. You want to know something else horrible? Was they defense trash? Had to be. They didn't win a playoff game. Didn't win a playoff game.

29:16That's why Barry had to. You know why?

29:18James Harrison:That would get Barry sick. You know why, bro? That's why Barry got up out of it. Listen, bro. You know why they didn't win the playoff game? That boy Mitchell went up in there, and that boy threw two pick sixes in the playoff game. That's the first one they were seeing. I think he had, like, four turnovers, dude. Like, that was 95, bro. Like, 16-game schedule, bro. That's what it was, bro. Like, that team had so much talent on there, bro. he never recovered bro from that season from that playoff game he never recovered from the playoff i bet like in bro i'm trying to tell you he didn't recover he ended up having more picks than interceptions like all the way down until i think charlie batch ended up taking over for him in 98 and then barry was like i'm out of here barry was like i'm out of here and then that was Detroit ain't had nothing going on until the last two, three years, three, four years, whatever it is.

30:18Like, bruh. And I'm with you on the Burrow and them two boys over there. I think if Burrow had a good old line, okay, they would have possibly probably already broke that over there. 1000%. Also, you got to have everybody healthy at the same time. But give them some blocking. Somebody that's going to protect, get everybody healthy, playing at the same time. I think they would have had that a few years ago.

30:48James Harrison:That's what I'm saying. I didn't know what the number was. I was thinking if you had two receivers that got 1 ,500, then that'd be right around, but it's 31. So they could... 31-74. That's in 95, bro, with 16 games. So Randy Moss, Chris Carter, all of these, Larry Fitzgerald, all of these duos still had under that. I wanted to check and see what was the highest that they had. Because I did not. I didn't see that one. Yeah. That's wild. Bro, I would have never thought that. I'm thinking, okay, which one of these had it? And I went and I'm like, no. I'm thinking Isaac Bruce and Torrey Holt. Like, that was great to show on turf.

31:28James Harrison:They did it a bunch of times. And I don't think, I think Torrey Holt averages like 1 ,300 yards receiving. Like, yeah, it's crazy, bro. It's crazy. Look here. You know what else is crazy? That bag, bag, bag. He became the highest paid corner in Seattle. That baggy. Oh, my goodness. At the dominant performance in the Super Bowl win in February, three-time Pro Bowl cornerback Devin Willispoon and the Seattle Seahawks agreed, reached an agreement for a four-year,$132 million extension. A contract includes a$101 million guarantee, making Witherspoon the highest paid corner in the NFL. Joe. Yes, sir.

32:15This deal being signed, him resetting the market, what is going to happen with us over here with Nephew?

32:24James Harrison:It's not looking good. This is what I want to figure out, though. It gets to the point where the Steelers, I understand, it's like you want to sign them earlier than later because ain't nothing going to happen, but the baggage is going to continue to go up. The salary cap is going to continue to go up. So our first, I'm looking at like the 25. If we're going to get them under 25 to 26 to 27, I was hoping that was going to be the sweet area. That ain't no more. That's what I'm saying. The longer that you wait, the more that it's going to go up. And I don't know, like when you have a corner like Joey Porter Jr., at the end of the day, he signed for$9 million.

33:08James Harrison:four years ago. He's been playing way above that market. So we know that he's been doing nothing but getting better and it's time to, all of these dudes like Witherspoon, Stingley, Sertan, Horn, the boys, the dudes that are balling, there's nothing going to be, nothing's going to happen, but the contracts are going to go up. So you're getting$33 million a year now. I just hope that we can get Joey Porter signed before, I mean, now, I don't know. Because when I was thinking 25 at first, now I'm like, who knows what they're doing? I can't go for less than 28 now. And honestly, 30. What we got in the cap?

33:56What we got in the cap, bro? We just signed. I ain't even lied to you. This is not positive for me because we just signed Benton. We just signed him. I don't think we got a number of maybe four or five million in the cap.

34:10James Harrison:You know me. You know me. You know I don't believe in that cap. Dude, you cannot believe in the cap, bro, but the cap is real. Okay, Joe? I don't believe it. Bro, what did I say? What did I say, bro? I said a while ago. I said, you know what? I said, oh, no, they might be. And then I was like, no I ain't gonna say it. He was like yeah say it. Then I said it and you were like oh no no no no don't say that. I'm trying to tell you it's starting to look like that might be the move. I don't know. I hope it's not. But it's starting to look like that might be the move. I hear you. I know. I know. I know.

34:48James Harrison:It's crazy league. You the corner. You nephew. If I'm nephew I'm feeling I'm feeling undervalued. I'm not feeling appreciated because at the same time, there's people in your locker room that came in the joint the same time as you. And it's like, I didn't do nothing different. And it's not like they are not ill-deserving. Everybody that got paid has been balling, is doing their thing. They are in-house people. So it's like, okay, you're taking care of home. But I'm home. Like, I'm homegrown. I'm a little peasy. Pops was even here. And not even nothing to do with that. But I'm the starting corner.

35:24James Harrison:I've been balling, increasing my play every single year. And now, like, I'm out the way. I don't get in trouble. I don't do nothing. But my play has increased. Nick Herbert wasn't starting. And I'm going to – he's making$100 million to$25 million a year. You know what I'm saying? The third outside linebacker. We got TJ at 40. And then we got Highsmith that came in at 17-5. And he's now trying to go ball out. Everybody got to go ball. Everybody understands. The league is the league. But it's like when you see other people in there that Donnell Washington coming in, which he's making his bread now, 12.

36:00James Harrison:When you're sitting there and you're balling, you've been doing your part. This contract that he's signing now isn't for what you're about to do. It's because these contracts are what you've done for me already. You bought out. Your first contract, what you do in college. So that's how you get to your rookie deal. You sign that because that's only what you've done in college. They don't have nothing to go off of. Your second contract is what you did those first three years. You can pay for that. For what I just did that time. So now, if you continue to ball, that's when you go get the new one.

36:29James Harrison:Because it's like, oh, you've already... It's always what have you already done. So now, as soon as you start slipping, they're like, oh, that's on the next deal. You're tripping. You're not playing at that high level. Because once you start making$40 million a year, oh, that's your norm. But you better not go down because that's your next contract we're talking about. Yep. Brother, it's a tricky situation. I'm just looking at it from the outside in with no real detail. But, you know, just from what I'm seeing, the way things are moving, what's left there, what's not there, what is happening, what hasn't happened.

37:09This is really looking positive for a situation where everything ends up working out in the end. And, you know, I don't know. Worst case scenario, you know, what do they do? He says, okay, well, I won't play. They keep him, and then they end up have to get rid of him next year, or they lose him next year, whatever that may be. Or they go on and, you know, keep him and end up having to trade him just to get a value for him. I mean, it's a tricky situation. We're going to see how it roll out, but we're going to see how something else roll out too. I guess Aaron Donald done worked out with the Rams again, you know.

37:51Like, what's going on, man? And this is the second time this summer Aaron Donald was listed on the NFL's transaction wire and having a workout with the Rams. The Rams head coach, Shami Bay, told reporters yesterday, we've had great dialogue. It's going to be on his timeline. It's going to be on Aaron's timeline. You know, if Aaron does decide he wants to do it, I've been very open that we want to try to explore that opportunity. I feel great about our football team as it currently stands, and I know he'll add value if he decides to come. Joe, do you think AD is coming back?

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44:21James Harrison:It's not like he's not going to go try. I mean, obviously, he's not going to go try. I understand that, but. They got a squad. They got a model. You can't not. You can't come back and not win it. That is a failure. He's still going to be first. Because they already been anointed as the favorites to win. And now you're telling me you done got one of the coldest to ever do it back and you don't win it? Along with the best player in defense from last year? Huh? You know they go take at least four up on the line. We pass blocking. What you mean? We go one, one. Uh-uh, that ain't gonna work. They ain't gotta do money with a four-man rush.

45:04That's what I'm saying. Now you add a fifth as a blitzer. Now they gotta sit in. They max protecting. You think he coming back? Five people. I hope he not coming back. I hope he a man in his word and say, you know, he ain't had nothing else to prove. Okay. You know, that's what I'm hoping. You know me, I'll speak to you. You know, but hey, if I'm going with what I'm seeing in front of me.

45:33James Harrison:That's what I'm saying, Debo. What I'm seeing in front of me, you going through what you hope that he told you is the truth. I'm like, Debo, people keep pulling up to the facility, putting the helmet on. Hey, he coming back or he playing with me. coming back and replaying with me for clicks and likes or something. That's what I'm saying. AD got shit to do, man. He was going to be chilling. I ain't even heard from him in a while. And next thing you know, he keeps popping up with a helmet on, doing the ladder drills, looking like he's getting ready to play football. Like, yeah, bro. He ain't playing.

46:12Don't nobody play like that. Who you know play like that? don't nobody we don't want to back D-Bug you said he had a gun oh my god hey man let's jump into these what do these chats talk about coach what is that is it Frank Franchette

46:39Franchise key $2 we need DB help in Cleveland. AB, please make vet calls.

46:51James Harrison:Y 'all need DB help in Cleveland? Look, we don't have too much depth, but we are starting. Our starting DBs are fire. So we just need, like he's saying, we may need a little depth. We may need one more. We may need one more nickel. Yeah. Okay. So, you know, because Denzel Ward and Tyson Campbell are strapping. We have number top one, two cornerback tandem. Oh, you need some backup. That's what we're saying. That's what we're saying. You ain't got a nickel? We got a guy we drafted last year. You know what I'm saying? Doing pretty good. So we're going to see, but it's no set in stone. Okay. Okay, let's go on down here.

47:37Foxy Mama,$10. She said, in my opinion, I don't think Shador is ready. I'm not taking any away I'm not taking away any of his talent. He needs to observe his seasoned veteran and stop trying to prove he's ready. I guess Dylan, I guess, I guess Dylan's not in. I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't. I don't think.

48:10Well, I don't think he's not ready. I just think right now, Dylan obviously is not in the running, but Watson, it just looks better. And he ain't played in two years, and that's what the performance I get compared to the performance I got from Shador. I'm leaning to Watson. Yep. I mean, I'm going to say that he's not ready.

48:41James Harrison:I would just, from that performance, I would say, yes, I think he needs to get definitely a little step quicker. And I think just let's see him play with the ones. And let's see how that looks first. Let's get them both for the chance to play with the same line, the same receivers, the same talent around them to be able to get that production off. So then after that, be able to go. But I do think that I was expecting a little bit, a little bit more. yeah i i was i was definitely expecting more from sudor and i was not expecting as much from watching that's what that's yes honestly matter matters of the heart jay jay nay five dollars i i've been binge watching limpy with my daughter for a while Yeah.

49:34And then I came across this episode with Joe on there. Yes. Man, I would have never known.

49:41James Harrison:Y 'all watch Blippi with your children. We'll love the episode where Joe Hayden teaches the kids how to play cornerback, defensive cornerback. What is Blippi? It's like a kid's show. It's a dude. Blippi is a person. He goes around and does little things, shows them how to color, shows kids how to draw different things. And he came to - It's a cartoon? No, no. He's a real person. He's a real person. Blippi put on a little fit, come to the crib. Everybody know Blippi. Blippi pulled up to my, because my kids was watching Blippi. So I ended up getting in touch with Blippi. And then we did a show together.

50:13James Harrison:He came to the house. And I had Blippi and I teach them how to play cornerback. So if you look up Joe Hayden with Blippi, great episode. A lot of people pull up with me and say that they see me on it when they just watch them with their kids. I had no idea. Where was this? This was in 2017, 2018? Oh. Yeah, I did in 2018 when I was still in the league, D-Ball. I was still actually, I was like, oh yeah, Joe Hayden. No, I didn't care about that. I'm just trying to figure out when it was because I didn't see it. It was in 2018 out in LA and it's on YouTube. Blippi Joe Hayden. Blippi Joe Hayden. Listen, y 'all go see that.

50:47Y 'all got kids, man. That goes, Santa, said Joe. You should have told AB we have a surplus of quarterbacks with Will Howard. maybe a Will Howard maybe a number 16 our future starter that shirt inspired Debo yeah thank you thank you very much thank you very much Joe look

51:12James Harrison:I'm not talking look I'm not talking I I get to stuttering when y 'all y 'all got to a point see Joe Joe listen listen I tell you what hey I tell you what we'll do for you man whichever one we don't end up keeping with I'm still, look, don't even act like that. I'm not, I still believe in Shadour. Maybe a third. Shadour's still going to be good. We just got to get this line to protect him and then he going to get out there with my boys, you know what I'm saying? And just come on, Shadour, let's go. Tight passes. Where is he? Echo Santa, he's back$2. He said, JPJ, Joey Porter Jr., going to be the Steelers highest paid corner ass.

51:57I hope so.

51:58James Harrison:Facts. Highest paid corner. Okay. They probably ever, I don't. I'm going to go with that. I'm going to go with that. Highest, still is highest paid corner. That's why you guys, you guys define that. I like that. You define that. That's right. Yeah. I like that. Echo Sante. I got you. Mike, Mike, $105 said, what up, D-Bo and Joe. Y 'all might as well come back for the. that's the little that's the same little rotational role to get a ring with the Rams what is Mike Mike talking about y 'all might as well come back for the Rams too play a little rotational role and get a ring wow Mike I ain't I ain't ring chasing man I might just do us on to the bandwagon hey man I done accomplished all I needed to accomplish man I'm good I'll go get look if the Browns or the Steelers get one you know what I'm saying I'm gonna be right there I promise you, I'm getting a ring.

52:57James Harrison:That's real bandwagon. If I got a bus up in that monkey, strapped up, y 'all go give me a ring. I can't do that. It's us. It's Deebo and Joe, the unofficial show for the Pittsburgh's Delt. Bam. Play it up. You heard what I said, the unofficial.

53:24we got covenant live she bad you say 20 she said joe are we still calling cleveland a serious threat or did that 34 to 10 loss expose more questions than answers and with watson versus sordora still going on, who do you trust when the games actually count? Man, cover the... Nice cap, D-Bo. I know. My game, my hat game, it packed up out.

53:56James Harrison:No, I did look... So, Joe... The 34-10, that was just... You can't take the preseason... Stuttering, Joe. You can't take the preseason games that serious. Not everybody's starters are out there. We're playing basic ball. So, maybe, like, there's no real scheme. We're looking at performance, bro. Nobody really performed. We're looking at execution. Nobody really executed as well as they should, especially your offensive line and your defense. You're not letting me answer. Oh, go ahead. I'm just talking. I'm saying it was not as good. Trust me, it wasn't as good as I wanted it to be at all. But one thing I can tell you is the offensive line, we got time for them to jail, get them together.

54:40James Harrison:And then when our starters were out there at the office, It wasn't no stunt game, Joe. They don't need to gel on nothing. You just need to stick to something. The backups. Once it got down to the second or third, then it started looking difficult. That's what I'm looking at. That's what I'm telling you. My depth from the game, I can see our depth ain't what I wanted it to be. Offensive line depth? What joke? Our depth ain't what I wanted it to be. Next question. How do we got to gel together? It was no... Wow. Come on, man. Because you trying to jump on me. I can't. Oh, my goodness. I can't wait for this second game.

55:13Foxy Mama 4-3-2-1 she back$2 she said I wish y 'all came to Falcons training camp

55:21James Harrison:Joe we might go to the A I like the A we might go to the A we might go to the A let's see Covenant Light came back through Covenant Light came back through $5 she said just come to Atlanta and I will treat you both See, that's... I got you. Oh, yeah. That's where Covenant at. I know where you at over there. You over there by that mountain. Okay. Covenant Lassie over there by that mountain. I'm going to lie to you, but we might want to do the For Real, For Real. Like, next year, a training camp tour. Just try to hit one, like, a couple little teams. Definitely Browns, obviously. Hitting the Steelers with the good weather so we can be outside.

56:04I'm going to have to hit the Steelers. I got to hit the Bengals and the Ravens because I played at all them places.

56:08James Harrison:Okay, let's hit all the teams that you played for then because we just got Browns. We just got Browns and Steelers over here. I got to hit the Patriots too then. I'm down. I would love to go see how they operate. We run that tight circle. You know. And try to stay there. They depth big. They going to have me behind the ropes. Oh, man. Oh, coming to the locker room again. She said, you have to take these preseason games serious because that's who you are picking. That's because that's who you are picking. That's the people you're picking for your core, is what she's saying. Cover it. My Joe. This is what I'm trying to tell you.

56:50James Harrison:My Joe start. This is what I'm trying to tell you, Covered. Our starters, a lot of the Browns, our main first starters, they weren't even out there. They didn't play at all. So, like, I understand we get our core. Okay. Them is the people that we're figuring out if they're going to make the team. We're keeping out a lot more players than we had at all that should have been out there. What about your offensive line? Okay. Fan who played good. You know what I'm saying? I want to know who was out there that wasn't a starter. Who wasn't out there that wasn't a starter. I think we had maybe one. Maybe one of those.

57:25James Harrison:Huh? They got to jail. They got to jail. They got to jail. Wasn't no stunt and twist game. What are they jelling for, Joe? Every man whooping man. Deebo. Come on, man. I'm going to have way better answers after the second game. The first one, the same way we didn't just jump on. Hey, listen, y 'all. Jovo had way more better answers after the second game. Way more better. Because right now. That's what we're going to go with, man. Look here. We done went way over here, man. We want to thank y 'all for joining us on this episode of D-Bo and Joe. Please make sure you like, subscribe, and download where you get your show.

58:06So again, want to send a big shout out. Thank you to Andrew Berry, man. Had a great time, man. Appreciate you. You're doing your thing.

58:15James Harrison:Joe, see y 'all tomorrow. Same time, same place. Let's get it.

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