Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Deshaun Watson Caught Speeding, Baker Mayfield GETS PAID

11 Sep 2026 · 45 min · 17 chapters

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In short

Sports talk focused on NFL news and upcoming games. Main segments cover Deshaun Watson’s speeding citation, Browns defensive end Jared Verse’s comments about being counted out vs. Jacksonville, Baker Mayfield’s Buccaneers contract extension, and John Harbaugh’s refusal to reveal starting lineups/schemes to the media. The hosts also debate preseason/offseason expectations and do fan Q&A/super chats.

Guests/backgrounds

No named guests appear in the transcript. The episode is hosted by Debo and Joe (plus occasional references to other figures like Erin Andrews, John Harbaugh, Jared Verse, and Baker Mayfield).

Key claims

  • Watson’s 86 mph speeding citation is framed as a “non-story,” with debate about radar/wrong-car possibilities and traffic flow on I-480.
  • Jared Verse says respect must be earned by going 1-0 and winning; hosts agree winning controls the narrative.
  • Baker Mayfield’s 3-year, $165M extension is “market” justified by his recent passing production; performance must continue due to guarantees/contract structure.
  • Harbaugh’s media strategy: don’t disclose starters, packages, or plays to avoid giving opponents an advantage.

Notable examples

  • Watson cited for 86 in a 60 zone; pled not guilty; next court date Sept. 23.
  • Mayfield extension: $110M new guarantees on top of a scheduled 2026 $40M guarantee.
  • Verse: emphasizes earning respect weekly; hosts cite needing a win vs. Jaguars.
  • Harbaugh: explicitly refuses to name starters/plays/packages in press conferences.

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Deshaun Watson's Speeding Incident

1:51 to 2:35

Discussion about Deshaun Watson's recent speeding ticket and implications.

“This is Erin Andrews from Calm Down with Aaron and Carissa.”

Deshaun Watson's Speeding Incident

2:49 to 5:50

Discussion about Deshaun Watson's recent speeding ticket and implications.

“Browns quarterback Deshaun Watson was cited going 86 miles an hour in a 60 mile per hour zone on I-480.”

Jared Verse on Team Motivation

5:50 to 11:20

Analysis of Jared Verse's comments regarding team motivation and respect.

“Ain't that the last game where they was talking goofy on him?”

Baker Mayfield's Contract Extension

11:20 to 14:01

Breaking down Baker Mayfield's new contract and its market implications.

“When I was sitting over there in Cincinnati, Joe, I'm like, oh, yeah.”

Baker Mayfield's Contract Insights

14:01 to 16:42

Explore the implications of Baker Mayfield's latest contract and market value.

“When I ended up getting that one year, prove it one for four, and then I signed a three for 33.”

Introducing Lingo Kids

16:42 to 18:44

Discover the interactive learning platform for children with fun games and songs.

“So, I don't, you know, I don't know those things, but I haven't heard a bad word about him.”

Media Strategies for Coaches

19:49 to 24:37

Discussing the importance of media control for coaches and players in interviews.

“The Giants' new head coach, John Harbaugh, is letting the New York media know early he isn't saying nothing about, nothing he don't want to say nothing about.”

Controlling the Narrative

24:37 to 28:01

Learn how players can manage interview questions and maintain control in media interactions.

“You are in full control of what you say.”

Media Relations and Personalities

28:01 to 31:24

The hosts discuss the nuances of media interactions and personalities in interviews.

“Especially when I was skittish giving an interview.”

Advice for Young Athletes

31:25 to 32:36

The hosts provide advice on what young athletes should focus on during games.

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Team Analysis and Player Performance

32:37 to 34:28

A breakdown of team performance and player health in the upcoming season.

“And then every now and then, go ahead and flash on them.”

Team Analysis and Player Performance

36:34 to 37:06

A breakdown of team performance and player health in the upcoming season.

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Fun and Games: Danny Ball

37:24 to 42:00

The hosts share insights about a unique game called 'Danny Ball' and its mechanics.

“and do nothing else to mess with your phone because you're out there trying to play basketball.”

Discussion on Sports and Personal Experiences

42:00 to 43:50

Learn about the challenges of playing sports and personal anecdotes related to weight and competition.

“For guys that is like you, that are that victim weight, it's a struggle.”

Predictions and Expectations for the NFL Season

43:50 to 45:52

Explore team predictions, expectations for the Steelers, and light-hearted banter about rival teams.

“Hey, I'm telling you, worst case scenario, AFC Championship, man.”

Engaging with Fan Comments

45:52 to 48:56

The hosts react to fan comments and tackle playful banter about their teams and players.

“They going to have to come back and see.”

Previewing Upcoming NFL Matches

48:56 to 53:07

Get insights on upcoming matchups and the hosts’ thoughts on players and teams for the new season.

“Browns got Jacksonville, and they about to get popped to it because they trash.”
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3:07Outside of Cleveland on 826, Watson was pulled over the day before the Browns final season, final preseason game according to WKY body camera footage from the traffic stop showed Watson complying with the trooper's request providing his identification and all requested information Watson pled not guilty to the citation and in his next court appearance his next court appearance is September 23rd. Joe, why is your boy over here flying around like he ain't got no good sense, Joe? Nope.

3:51James Harrison:This is a non-story. It's on I-480. I be on I-480. He's flying, Joe. No, he's not. 86 miles an hour. I'm never telling my man to go over the speed limit. That is not. Now, Debo, don't even sit here and act like this is any type craziness news. Obviously, slow down. I don't even know my car going fast, Joe. For sure. Debo, I'm telling you right now, don't be sitting here looking here lying. I've been in the car with you. Hey, Joe, I'm going to keep it up. You ain't driving 86. You ain't driving 86. You ain't driving 86, but you were driving faster than the 61. Joe, I'm going to keep it up with you, man.

4:32This is speeding. I understand that, y 'all. This is definitely going against the law. This is going too fast. You don't need to be driving as fast. But what they don't understand, 480, Joe, 480, traffic be moving. Traffic be moving. You be going 80 on there because that's how fast traffic is moving. So you may go 86 just to pass on the left, you know? On the left. Because if I'm rolling with traffic and, you know, I got to pass somebody because, you know, I don't like rolling with traffic for some reason. I like to be moving through traffic a little bit. So I'm going to hit the left lane and I'm going to pass through.

5:07Plus, my dude, he pled not guilty to it, okay? So the radar might have hit the wrong car, like something like that. It ain't like the man was doing a buck something.

5:20James Harrison:No, not a buck. 86 is fast, but he's not fast and furious. And here's the crazy thing, bro. This happened almost a month ago, bro. Why is y 'all bringing this out over the last couple days? You know what I'm saying? reporters doing over there, man. They only want to report nothing positive. That man, listen, man. That man in the... I'm here to stand for Deshaun, for this one, and be like, look, brother, it's all good, man. We good. You just got to slow this. You know how people do. Just slow down. We got games to play. We got to beat Jacksonville. That's my man's goal. He's probably trying to get home.

5:52James Harrison:It was after the preseason game. He was getting home to study. Ain't that the last game where they was talking goofy on him? Is that the game? I don't think that was the game, though, Joe. That was the game before that because he didn't play in the last one, Joe. So what he's speeding for? Let me stop, Joe. I'm just tripping. I'm just tripping. I don't know why I just can't. You know what I'm saying? I have a hard time giving something. I'm like they're reporters over there in Cleveland. I'm looking for the worst. I'm trying to make everything back. Come on, man. That's why I can't wait for the games to start so we can actually start talking about what's going on in the field.

6:25James Harrison:So then we have even Flanfield. It matters because we play to win the game. We was talking about the Rams. they were supposed to be, I was expecting them to be nice. Listen, you got to fight that ticket all day. He right, though. Even if they didn't hit the wrong card, you still got to fight that ticket. Because you're talking about 26 over. That's reconciled. You can't sign to that. You can't. You go to court. You plea that down. You go ahead and get a lesser thing. And then you go ahead and pay the fine. You don't never jump in that thing and pay nothing like that. Because that's so many points on your license.

6:57This is going to be ridiculous. I'm going to make you have to prove that every piece of equipment you had on that stop is perfectly measured out, calibrated. You know what I mean?

7:12James Harrison:Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. I know you know because you had to sound like you know from experience. What are you talking about, Joe? What that mean? Huh? Hey, Joe, I ain't never got— I ain't never— Hey man, the Browns, defensive end, Jared Verse spoke to the media about Cleveland being counted out against the Jags. We got some video here, Joseph. I don't really care about the motivation. I don't really care too much about what other people think. My main focus is the Browns fans and the Browns organization. Respect is the thing that you can't just get. No one just hands you respect. You have to earn that every week.

7:53You can't get it just by, you know, what you do on the practice field, what you do that every Sunday is, you know, the biggest thing. And going out of this game 1-0, that will give us the most amount of respect we can possibly get. Hey, Joe, I like it. I ain't going to lie to you, man. I know you do. Only thing I would say different is I would put ownership before the fans because if it was for the fans, you wouldn't even be there, bro. But that might be a happy good thing for you because you'd still be back there in L.A. But not right now wouldn't be a good thing because y 'all would have got dog walk.

8:25You know what I'm saying? They ain't got dog walk. It don't matter. And now, you know, looking at, you know, the decision of sending him over there, you know what I'm saying, sending Miles over there that Barry made. Now, I don't know what he did. Was he looking into the future? I don't know. We going to find out after, you know, a few more games. But, you know what I'm saying? Like, they got memes up there where, you know, Aaron Rodgers on the corner rushing the quarterback. They talking about it was Miles Garrett. I tell you this.

8:49James Harrison:that man Jared Verst was watching that game smiling ear to ear ear to ear I tell you what he's looking at it now like this okay crown them why don't you crown them why don't you the games are played the game is meant to be played the game has to be played so now end of the day with Jared Verst I love what he's saying because guess what you do play for the Cleveland Browns and everybody does keep talking And the only way you can change what they say is if you win the game. When you win games, then it can start, like, whatever they talk about, it doesn't matter because you're winning games. You're figuring out a way to leave the stadium with a win.

9:29James Harrison:So with him, what I'm rocking with, Jerry Verse, is you're 1 ,000 % right. Don't matter what anybody else—if they think you're going to win, like the Rams, you go out there and get smacked. They think you're going to lose, you can go out there and dog walk them. It doesn't matter what people think. It doesn't matter what we say. It matters when you go out there and play this game. And it doesn't matter if you're quarterbacks. It doesn't matter if you're offensive line, if you're defensive line, if everybody's coordinated, if y 'all are missing and people are just running scot-free down the lines.

9:57James Harrison:So it matters about you can control the narrative. Only thing we're doing is reporting the news. So if you come in there and ball out and you beat Jacksonville and dog walk them 27-7, then you'll start gaining respect. because there's nothing you can go say right now playing for the Browns, knowing we won four games last year, that make people be like this. Oh, yeah, I believe, I believe, because you're going to look stupid, because we believe, believe, believe, and you go out there and lose. So until you start winning games, that's when people will be like this. Okay, bet. There's something to what you're saying.

10:29James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? You guys are actually going out there putting in words. So I'm rocking with everything that Jerry Verge said. And like you said, he over there watching that game. Man, he watching that game, sitting over there just happy as he want to be, man. Cheesing and smiling, Joe. Cheesing and smiling. Once you get rid of me, Joe, my homeboys on that team is my homeboys. Listen, I hope y 'all play great. I hope you play well. I hope y 'all play great. But I want you to lose every game as a team. No hurt, harm, or danger. I want you to go for 100. I want you to lose every game as a team.

11:05James Harrison:And then at the last second, somebody tripped and fall and they scored. But you balled out though. You can still go to the Pro Bowl. I want you to go all pro. Go all pro. I love you. No question. But your team, y 'all ain't going to lose. I want you to go 0-17. When I was sitting over there in Cincinnati, Joe, I'm like, oh, yeah. I want you to go. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm sitting over there like, oh, yeah. And we made the playoffs. They didn't make the playoffs. I'm like, oh. And we won the North. Took the AFC North. You? Oh. You want to get rid of me? Okay. You want to do this to me? You want to get rid of me?

11:40James Harrison:You want to do this to me? He lost. He lost. You want to do this to me? Come on, Verse. Because I'm telling you, that's the only way that you can get something going, is winning games. So I'm loving Jerry Verse's energy, D-Bow. I'm loving this juice. Yeah, for sure, for sure. That's what we need. Now look here, man. We had talked about this before, brother. Like, hey, y 'all need to pay the man because he worth it. If you look at it now, the Buccaneers and Baker Mayfield have agreed to a three-year$165 million extension. The extension includes$110 million in new guarantees on top of the$40 million guarantee that Baker was scheduled to make in 2026.

12:23The Bucs originally offered Baker a two-year$50 million, but Mayfield and his agent Tom Mills felt the deal was too light. Yeah, it's too light. You need to add some more time on there with some more money. OK, the New Deal averages 55 per season, tied for third highest in the league, Joe. Now, some people say that might be too big of a bag for Baker. Joe, you tell me what you think, because I know you got a personal relationship with the man. You done played with the man. You've seen what the man can do. And we've seen what the man can do. We've seen the numbers that the man put up. Joe, go ahead and take off.

13:03James Harrison:It goes from, yes, Debo, we spoke on this, and we said that the market is the market. When you have new quarterbacks that come in like Trevor Lawrence, when Trevor Lawrence signed his bag, he's making$55 million a year. Nobody's worried about it. You have Jordan Love. He comes in, and he signs his contract. And for the last three years, Baker Mayfield has played better than Jordan Love. he's played better than uh obviously Daniel Jones he's played better than Justin Herbert when we talk about the numbers his stats he's in passing touchdowns in the last three seasons over everybody he's second in the NFL and passing yards he's third in the NFL and in passing completions he's second in the NFL so when you say like that's Josh Allen's in the NFL Lamar Jackson's in the NFL Joe Burrow's in the NFL Justin Herbert's in the NFL so when you start talking about people that When you talk about stats versus people in your contemporaries, it's like the numbers are the numbers.

14:00James Harrison:My agent is here to show me what I've done. When I ended up getting that one year, prove it one for four, and then I signed a three for 33. Basically like Sam Darnold did,$35 million a year. He signed for 33 when dudes are making 50. Okay, I understand. Now you got dudes making$60 million a year. I'm not trying to, 65. I'm not trying to reset the market. But you can't tell me that Jordan Love and Trevor Lawrence have better stats than me in these last three seasons that I played in the NFL. So it's a short-term deal. It's all good. And now these dudes, they're getting five-year extensions. Baker Mayfield is saying, I can get the same for three, and it'll be two years of guaranteed money, and y 'all can let me go after one.

14:36James Harrison:So basically, it's a two-year deal that y 'all signed me for. I think I'm worth$100 million in these next two years. $50 million,$50 million. You owe me. from his stats and what he's done that you're paying from him for the three C's during the last three years. He's number two in touchdowns. He's number three in yards and two in completions. It's like the numbers are the numbers. So it don't matter if you like Baker Mayfield, if you don't, his stats versus the contemporaries of people that are making that money, he has every right to ask for that money because that's what the market represents.

15:05James Harrison:So when he gets this money, I'm like this, you know what, Baker, you deserve it because now you got to continue to ball because after these two years of that 50 million, you're up. It's up. You're back to the table quick. So you have to continue to perform because people are looking at you now like, yes, you're making this money. You have to be able to ball because if not, you're going to go to the Tua. You're going to turn it to the... Nah, not that. Not like that. Not that bad. No, listen, listen. Tua, Watson, aware. Instantly, you have to start proving yourself again. They're not going to make...

15:33James Harrison:They're not going to start giving you just 50, 60 million dollars a year. It's just... Because he's doing this and he barely... He had to fight for the 50. Yeah. Had to fight for his life to get to 50. That man can't. Fight for his life. Up and down. You can't. You fighting. You fighting for 50 and your numbers say you should get 60. That's crazy. You can't. Yes. But Baker Mayfield knows what it is. He knows how the league is. He knows he's getting a little bit up there in the league, in gear. So when the younger dudes like Love and Trevor Lawrence, they're like, this is in their first contract.

16:03James Harrison:Baker Mayfield, he's going in his ninth year in the league. They're trying to like, they're still making him work for it. Like, okay, no. Okay, you're in there. Okay. But you have to still perform at second in the league in passing touchdowns, second in the league in yards. You better continue to ball because you're not resetting the market, but you're going to get, okay, now, okay, you're a franchise quarterback. You better continue to play like it or we're at your neck. No question. You know what I'm saying? There's no up for Baker Mayfield. You better keep playing and they're going to give you what they feel like you need to get, like right there.

16:34Yeah, and I hear – I mean, I've never played with him, but I hear he's, you know, one of those teammates that you want to play with. He's there. He's present. He's a dude that is a great leader. I mean, you play with him. So, I don't, you know, I don't know those things, but I haven't heard a bad word about him. Yeah. So, I'm happy for him, man. I'm glad you got that 5 '5", man. Well deserved. You probably could have stuck him up for a little bit more, though. I don't know.

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20:39I have to say this. I have to say this right now. Let me put a stop to all these questions because I'm not going to tell you who's playing in the game. I'm not going to tell you who's starting. I'm not going to tell you what package we have in. I'm not going to tell you what plays we're running. I'm not going to tell you any of that, okay? So we can make it great and have a great press conference, or we can make it uncomfortable. But I'm not going to tell you because when you know, the Cowboys know, or every other team we play knows. And that's not in the competitive interest of our football team.

21:07Does that make sense? So I think you can respond. Hey, hey, hey, they didn't hear that. Run that back one more time for me, please. Run that back for me one more time for me, please. Let him hear that one more time.

21:22I can just say this right now. We've stopped all these questions because I'm not going to tell you who's playing in the game. I'm not going to tell you who's starting. I'm not going to tell you what package we have in. I'm not going to tell you what plays we're running. I'm not going to tell you any of that. You can ask it. So we can make it great and have a great press conference. We can make this great. Or we can make it uncomfortable. But I'm not going to tell you because when you know, the Cowboys know or every other team we play knows. And that's not in the competitive interest of our football teams.

21:49That make sense? So I think you can respect that. Listen, they go have to respect that. And that makes sense to me, Joe. You know why it makes sense to me? It's because what a lot of these media people don't understand and realize is that just because you ask the question don't mean I have to answer it. I think a lot of players should take that advice just because they ask the question don't mean you have to answer it. They ask you an uncomfortable question. You don't have to answer it. Only thing you got to do is be available to take questions. They cannot force you to give a question. That's like saying you have to answer this question.

22:33you have to answer it truthful, like you're under oath on the jury stand. No, that's not what it is. Media availability is what you have to give them. If you don't want to talk and answer that question, you don't have to talk. You actually don't have to talk. That's the crazy thing. You just got to be available, bruh. Like, listen, start following this, okay? Especially for you dudes in Cleveland, man. Stop letting them try to set you up for the tricky dicky, okay? Go and answer what you want to answer and everything else, just be like, you know what? I was walking my dog today now that I think about it.

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23:20Go on something totally different. That'll let them know I'm not going to answer your questions.

23:26James Harrison:So are you with how he answered, how he did this interview just now? I'm all with it because why wouldn't I go sit there and I done told y 'all I'm not answering these questions. He done actually gave y 'all a frame of the questions that he's not going to answer. So with that being the case, why continue to try and ask a different question geared a different way that is going to be rounded to him giving the same answer. No, he's not going to do it. So, if y 'all want to make this a good interview, we can make this a good interview. Get off of these questions and get on to something else. Or, we can make this real uncomfortable.

24:06And you can sit here and it can be one of those where it's like, hey, your coach over there in Cleveland, dude, he needs to take some of this advice. You ain't got to answer them questions they ask you bro like you don't have to answer i know it'd be messed up not to answer or however it may look especially if it's a question about you know starting this and that but a lot of the answers he over there monkey giving bro they cause more hurt than than good

24:36James Harrison:no for sure i i feel you debo i think one of the main thing is controlling the interview you. You are in full control of what you say. You don't have to say certain things. You don't have to answer certain questions. You don't have to answer any questions. You don't have to answer anything. No, no, for sure. And when you were saying like, you can say anything, spinning it to like the things about when I walked my dog the other day, like I think that was, you know what I'm saying? The weather was nice. When you're giving yourself the, all you have to do is be available. It's when your coach is saying, I really don't have to say nothing to you guys.

25:10James Harrison:So if you keep on trying to dig, I can make this interview really awkward. Like, I don't really want to have to answer anything. Because if it's play-related, if it's certain things like you said that he said that he doesn't want to talk about, starting lineups, schemes, all that. He's like, no. Like, I'm going to leave that for the imagination. I'm going to make them plan for everything so then I can come in with what we got going on. Because I've been working on this scheme and I don't want them. Any advantage is something. Everybody's paying attention to what we got going on. You're going to report it.

25:38James Harrison:you're giving them information on the team. I can completely understand that. So I'm with you. You can control the interview. If they're continuing to ask questions about lineups, about just certain things, you're like, I told you guys, I'm not going to answer it. So if you're going to keep asking me that, it can be real awkward in here. I can just start talking about walking my dog or I just won't say anything. Because you're like, you don't have to respond. So you should be sitting there looking at you, hit you with, I'm here so I won't get fined. any way to just be like, media, just know this.

26:05James Harrison:I don't have to give you anything. So when I'm asking you about just certain questions, I'm definitely not going to knock into. Please stay away from those so we can have a cool interview. I don't want it to be awkward, but I'm not going to give you information on the squad. That's just not how I run it. Something that these older, more experienced reporters do is they try and get a hold of them rookies and be like, yo, especially if there's some guy that he may be getting a lot of playing time. Hey, man, what do they have in there? How are they going to use you? I know they're going to do something with you, man.

26:35Like, what is it that's going on, man? Did you hear what he said about this? Boy, a dude excited. He like, did you just put it in? Yeah, man, they put a whole thing in for me, bruh. You know, man, they got me.

26:43James Harrison:Actually. No. Yeah. Actually, when they go 22 personal. Yeah, I'm going to be over here right here. And then we got this. They got any trick plays or anything? Yeah, we got one in there. I can't tell y 'all what it is, but it's one in there. You just told them they got a trick play. Be looking for a trick play. It be like you're talking to me. You're saying too much. the game be looking for the trick play because you already told them that they got one lined up and just coming that like no y 'all go ahead y 'all sit down y 'all chill y 'all have a good time y 'all ask uh uh reasonable questions that are things that coaches and players can answer without giving up a competitive advantage then you'll get the answers that you're looking for If not, our boss said you go get this right here.

27:32That is what it is, Joseph.

27:35James Harrison:That's exactly what it is. Because, I mean, he controlled the interview. They ain't got to say nothing. Bill Belichick does different interviews than a lot of other coaches. Belichick. Like, Bill, what you thought you was going to get out of Bill? You thought Bill was going to tell you anything about schematics? You better go in there and ask some questions that you expect and you're going to get an answer out of them. Yeah, bro. they blessed man they came into something there with Bill he's like yeah

28:00I understand

28:05I understand that New York media is different than the Baltimore media bigger market all that good stuff but what they need to understand is hardball ain't changing so y 'all gonna have to adjust it sucks when y 'all gotta adjust or it's gonna get awkward in there you know what I'm saying that's like that's like that's like the the person that come in with the question of, hey, how do you feel? I hit him real quick. Good.

28:34Good. Next question. Straight up. Straight up. Especially when I was skittish giving an interview. Yeah. Good. Feel good. Oh, yeah. How do you think you played?

28:47James Harrison:I did all right. Now, see, I was I tried to keep a nice relationship with the media, man. I was talking, but I didn't want to give away nothing. Joe, you chatty. You like to talk. You talk to anybody, Joe. You know what? The awkward part is I'm not trying to be mean, but then it's just... I'm not trying to be mean, Joe, but I'm not going to go outside of my personality just to make you feel comfortable. See, that's my personality. I know. You're chatty. I'm chatty. You're going to talk to the wall. if it mess around and give you some noise. I mean, nah. Nah, man. I'm going to give everybody a chance.

29:32James Harrison:I'm going to be chatty at first and then if I don't, I'm not rocking with the vibe. I don't give, I don't talk to everybody. You talk to anybody that talk to you. I'm going to give them a chance. For sure. I'm not going to turn down talking to anybody. I'm going to talk to anybody. Joe, I've never seen you and asked you, bro. You know what? This is what I tell you for sure. I'm not talking to everybody twice. That's for sure. I'm going to give everybody a chance, D-Bone. I'm going to talk to every single person. Joe, you've given them a whole chance. They come up to you. Yeah, they come up to you with the, I ain't your hot field to be in the NFL, bro.

30:05I'm like, all right. All right. I'm walking away. You go sit there and chat. You go let him ask three, four other goofy questions. You know what I'm saying? That's like my sons. The question my sons hate. They hate this question, bro. What is it like James Harrison being your dad? They like, it's my dad. I don't know him as anybody else but my dad. Like, what is she talking about?

30:31James Harrison:Yeah, that's the weird questions. I know, I know. Ask my son. You know, your dad's your head? He's like, yes, it's my dad. Prepare for that, Joe. That you want it to be normal. Prepare for that, Joe. I know. Prepare your kids for that, man. Let your kids know that it's going to be some people that's going to want to be around them just because they are your son. And there's going to be some people that's going to hate them just because they are your son. And all of the good and bad is going to be mixed in there. You know what I'm saying? So they got to have some discernment and be able to see who is trying to get in because they want to know them, who is trying to get in because they want to know you.

31:13The real from the fake? The real from the fake. They're going to have to have a high level of discernment, Joe.

31:19James Harrison:mm-hmm no for sure yes sir that's what i be on man making sure my kids know what's up let's go on ahead and jump into these super chats covenant life is back five dollars she said my grandson kyron starts at safety cameron sorry starts at satan starts at safety tonight with the central lines. What's your hype words to get my Joe to... What's your hype words to him, my Joe? I'm reading off freaked up. Get him fired up, Debo. He's number 14. I'm not a hype guy. Go ahead, Joe. I'm not a hype guy too, but I'm going to tell you what he needs to do. Safety 50, communicate. Communicate, communicate, communicate.

32:15James Harrison:Make sure alignment, assignment, technique. Every single play, be aligned, know your assignment, know your technique, and then you're going to be able to ball. Execute it. You got to execute it. You got to execute it, though. Execute. You got to execute it. But if you're in alignment, you know your assignment, and then you know your technique, then you're in a better position to execute your stuff. No question. Make the plays you're supposed to make. Come on. And then every now and then, go ahead and flash on them. Show them something they wasn't expecting. You know what I'm saying? Cuffing life back again.

32:50It's all Cuffing life. Cuffing life back again. Cuffing life is... $20. She said the Rams look like trash. 95 stopped by Trent and ate too much kangaroo meat. Bruh, do they serve kangaroo meat? I hope not.

33:06James Harrison:In Australia, I mean, that's where the kangaroos are at. I don't know for sure. I cannot quote that. Wow. I don't know. You can't eat no kangaroo. Anyway, I have made that flight, and it's hard to move, really, after two days. Tua scared because he don't want these still issues. Joe, explain your fit. See, first, Rams did look trash, and because you wasn't able to move for two days, you know why. They was swollen. They were swollen. They was over. They couldn't even hold. Their ankles were still swollen. Cleats wasn't even fitting right. So, you know, this is a fish in a barrel. This is one out of a million.

33:52James Harrison:This ain't going to happen another time like that. They look crazy. What else we got? She said. Tua scared? Tua? I don't know. From that, Tua, I hope Tua's going to be okay. But from his obliques and him just not, it's not looking too good for Tua. He, she asked you, he scared. He scared. He don't want them stealing issues. Is he scared? You really think he's, I don't think he's scared. Y 'all funny, y 'all funny thinking. He's, he's in the NFL. Like, are you really, he not scared. He not scared. And the fifth, we going Lake Erie Monsters again. Cover the life. We going Lake Erie Monsters. Hockey jersey.

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37:44I have it. I have it in the book. Also, how good do you think Rodgers does this season? And do you think we get 12 wins and a playoff win? Go Steelers. Facts. We get 12 wins and a playoff win. I think we go, worst case, I think we go 13 and 4. That's what you're saying. That's my thing. I think we go 13 and 4. Best case, we run the board. I ain't about to. If it's 17 games to be played. Devo, come on, man. Best case is we win all 17. Ain't that the best case, Joe?

38:24James Harrison:That is the best case. All 17 straight through the playoffs. We go 20-0. First team to ever do this is what? The 72 Dolphins. Man, they did 13-4 is what you're saying. Worst case. What you saying, Joe? Oh, no. I'm saying we're going to definitely go 13-4. and playoffs, we're going to win a playoff. Obviously, we're going to win a playoff game. Okay. And then, yeah. The same thing I said, it's health, and we just got to stay healthy. And we're going to see what our defense looks like and our offensive line. Oh, Lord, man. I forgot about that. Don't forget, because that's where I'm focused. I've got to make sure, because I got two offensive lines.

39:15James Harrison:Man, they got Cook out there starting at that right time. Offensive line. Hey, Cooks. I'm watching you, bro. I am watching you. Y 'all tell him I'm watching. Yeah, I'm watching. I got an eye on him. I'm watching him like a hawk. I am not even close to pleased with the performance in the preseason. That go for the whole combination of the offensive line. but him personally, most definitely. Okay. Most definitely. You know who we got eyes on? No. You know who I got eyes on? My dog, Queen. Okay. Okay. For sure, for sure. My dog, Queen. Listen, bro. I got eyes on Queen and I got eyes on P-Dub. Mm-hmm.

40:09James Harrison:Okay. No, it's the tandem. I think they obviously, obviously, D-line. Our defense. Obviously, that goes without being said, because I need TJ, I need Highsmith, I need Herbert to do, to all them be, I need all pro, pro bowl performances from all of them. Talking about double digit sacks. And then, that just goes without being said. But then from the linebacker and crew, bro, I just need us to be filling, filling, filling, filling, filling the gaps. I don't need, I need us to be able to stop two yard gains, one yard gains, meet them at the line of scrimmage, some of those. Secondary, communication, Debo.

40:52James Harrison:That's all I ask because we got the skills. We got the players. If you're, if a body on a body and they're making plays on you, okay, all right, a couple like, you know what I'm saying? everybody's getting paid, but you should never have somebody running. Scott Freed do our defense, people looking around like they don't know what the hell's going on. Hands up in the air. People are motioning. Hands up in the air. You should already, there should be so much talking because the communication is everybody's on the same page. So then if we get beat, okay, now we can deal with it, but I just don't need to see us busting in the secondary.

41:22Yeah, definitely brother. We got Nick Breeden, 92285. He said, When are you and Joe going to play Danny ball or is he too victim weight? What is Danny ball? Oh, you don't want none of that. So what is that? I'm going to show you. I'm going to show you a video with Danny boys. So basically what you do is you're playing. You're playing volleyball with a 10 pound medicine. Oh, with the medicine ball. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. And you know, you gotta, you gotta do something with your hip. You know what I'm saying? You got to get into the depths of your squat to get it back over. See? Over that line.

42:01You know what I'm saying? For guys that is like you, that are that victim weight, it's a struggle.

42:11James Harrison:It's not even about my weight. It's about my hip. You play hoop, though. You're running on hard wood. Yeah. It's played insane. No, no, for sure. How much is a medicine ball? Oh. Hey, Joe, I'll tell you what we'll do, man. We'll just go out there. We'll just go out there and toss it around a little bit. I'll toss the ball to you a little bit, and we'll let you get a feel for it. You know what I'm saying? Let you get an understanding of the forces that come. Two on two? It's two on two. True Danny Ball is two on two. It's no steps where you catch the ball unless it's in the process of catching the ball.

42:46Then you can continue through the motion. Otherwise, where you catch it is where you throw it. You know what? I found my partner. Who? You. The hell? You ain't about to have me out there working like a broke dick dog. You understand? Uh-uh. Uh-uh. I'm going to be over there trying to catch up for you and take up for you. They're going to be hitting blind spots on me and everything.

43:11James Harrison:No. No, D-Bo. I'm telling you. Look here, man. I need you on my team for motivation. Listen. Hey. I'm going to play on your team, but I'm going to make sure we get some newbies At least one. We got to play against somebody that's 185. Yeah. We got to put other weight classes on this. We got to level up the weight classes. We got to put weight classes in this, man. Yep. We got to add our weights and combine them. And then. Lisa Lynch. 191. $20. Thank you. She said, blessings to you and your family. Stillers going to the Super Bowl. Amen. Man. Hey, look here, man. You heard what she said. She listened to you, Debo.

43:56Hey, listen. You heard. Listen. Hey, I'm telling you, worst case scenario, AFC Championship, man. Worst case. Worst case scenario. I'm looking for AFC Championship, man.

44:07James Harrison:That's the best thing about football. At the beginning of the season, everybody's zero and zero. And then you look at the Rams. Man, that offensive line, man. I keep thinking about that, man. Listen, man. I hear you. That's what I'm saying, Debo. You're going to think about that one. I don't care, man. Listen here. Remember you just said, we're going 13-3 and 17-0. Hey. So. Yes, sir. Mike, Mike,$105. Football finally back. Going to be a lot of teams looking trash this weekend.

44:45James Harrison:Hey, Mike, I promise you. That's some of the realest. Everybody's talking about, yeah, my team's going 17-0. And everybody right now's team is going to win. Hey, that's why I said, is it going to be a win or a loss?

45:03James Harrison:For real, because it don't matter. However you think it's going to go down, we're going to have some funny talks on Monday. Funny, funny, funny. Listen, as of today. It's going to be some sad. It's going to be some glad. Steelers winning the Super Bowl. And the Rams going 0-17.

45:26James Harrison:Hey, bro. After Monday morning quarterbacks, bro, are the funniest. Because next thing you know, every time, every week, you feel like something completely changed. Yeah. So right now, though, we got the Steelers going to the Super Bowl, D-Bo. We got the offensive line. They haven't gave up a sack. Right now, we've got, you know what I'm saying? Matter of fact, Monday morning, we might have a Monday morning quarterback for sure. Y 'all got to come back and see. Y 'all might have to come back and see. You understand? I ain't going to lie to you, brother. They going to have to come back and see.

45:58James Harrison:I ain't going to lie to you, brother. I cannot wait to come on this journal Monday. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. I can't wait either, brother. I cannot wait either, brother. It's going to be... We got some underscore one underscore problem. $5 said Rodgers. Rodgers is going to cramp. Let's see. Hey, man, who the hell is this, bro? Yeah. Who up here running this up? Yep, that's what I'm saying. He must be a Ravens fan or something. He said Rodgers is going to cramp up week five from old age. Still to miss playoffs because they are trash. You trash. Your profile picture look like a Raven jersey. Your little kid got a Raven jersey on.

46:48You done put your kid on top of this profile and said this? I ain't got no problem going after your kid on this show. Ooh.

46:58James Harrison:Dang, Deebo. You're going to come over to Deebo Jones show and talk fast. He like 11 years old. Your son of a two foot three and he 18 years old. See? There you go. When I was going at the kid messing with me for not having a ring, you thought it was messed up.

47:18James Harrison:Get him. Get him. Hey, man.

47:23Hey, man, who is this, bruh? Hey, put your name in the chat so everybody know. Someone's problem. You going to come on here on D-Boy and Show? You going to come on our show? and run your mouth? Talking about the still is trash. He went smack.

47:43James Harrison:He went smack. What? Still is this trash. And A-Rod is about to cramp because of old age, not dehydration. How you just cramp because you old? That's crazy. I said, oh, this little man. How you go? How you go just spike up? He go cramp up just out of nowhere. Lock up. Out of nowhere. man yeah look here that's wild man i want to know who this who this is who that bum is you gonna come over here oh he a rat bird he gotta be a rat bird who y 'all play you see it y 'all play at the coach and y 'all about to lose y 'all play at the coach and y 'all about to lose y 'all gonna get dog walk jonathan taylor is gonna run the rock all over y 'all can't stop it and all they go do is put Lamar in position to have to throw the rock.

48:40They're going to make sure they can't run. They're going to put nine in the box and then just go man up and safety over the top. It's over with. Colts defense is about to be your problem, someone's problem. That's what's about to be your problem. Because y 'all trash. You understand that? Trash.

49:09James Harrison:Don't see. I can't wait.

49:15Man.

49:16James Harrison:But my Browns got Jacksonville. Browns got Jacksonville, and they about to get popped to it because they trash. I'm going to watch and see. Oh, you're going to watch and see. That's crazy. You didn't even defend them. Look at that. That's how much confidence Joe has in the Browns. That's how much confidence he has in the Browns. I'm not trying to dog. It's going to be a competitive game. Jacksonville is a good team. I didn't even have them on my initial list of teams that we was going to be able to get the easy dub. Remember, I told you our first easy dub was going to be the Panthers, I thought.

49:49James Harrison:Panthers, then Jets, then Titans. So this one, Jacksonville, I was giving them the respect. So when I named out our eight wins, I didn't even put them in. Oh, but then you're going to say that you're going to win now because why? What changed? I am saying this was guaranteed this was what I wrote was guaranteed oh okay so you're saying this is a fight now this one it's gonna be it ain't a guarantee it's gonna be a fight it's a fight y 'all gonna win the fight it's two you gotta win the fight okay you know what I'm saying first game of the season you never know the first game overreaction people be acting like oh my god what happened you know people think oh okay so you're setting up the excuse already first game no no no no hey it's the first game Just in case, because we started off slow.

50:35James Harrison:But if we start off fast, then we can start off fast. You know you're saying the quiet thing out loud, right?

50:44Yeah, exactly. Joe's saying the quiet thing out loud. Joe ain't even listening to his own advice. We just talked. You ain't got to answer the question, Joe. But you got to answer the question, Joe. Because we ain't the media, Joe. People want to hear what you got to say, Joe. and they know that you I'm not going to be out here lying. You a fake Steelers fan. You a true life Browns fan but you got reality of being over there and getting your face kicked in for your whole career. I'm a blood

51:12James Harrison:reading Browns fan and I love and the Steelers huge Steelers fan. Humongous. Okay. Okay. Listen here man. Literally put blood sweat and tears. Don't forget guys to follow Debo and Joe follow Joe follow myself subscribe and like Debo and Joe YouTube we are going to be picking winners and we will send you either a link from Debo and Joe from Joe or myself because we are going to be the two picking now please make sure you like, subscribe, like, like, like, like. How many likes you got? Like, like, and subscribe, and download, put it on automatic download wherever you get your show. Spotify. Turn your notification on.

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52:19James Harrison:It's another one. Anyway, it's a bunch of them. Yes. I got Apple too now. Don't forget. Lock it in. iHeart, put it on automatic download. Because we going to be here. Back on Monday. Season started. After the Steelers put their hands on them Falcons, okay? Steel will beat a bird any day. And the Browns, they going against the Jaguars. We going to see what I... And the dog, a dog ain't going to beat no Jaguar. We know this already. Brother. Brother. We got to watch the game. Let's see what my dog Deshaun do, and let's see what the defense talking about. Look here. We going to be back here on Monday with a Monday morning quarterback, so you better come and see.

53:12Joe?

53:14James Harrison:Lock in. I will see you guys Monday, same time, same place, after the Browns and still is good. And we out.

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