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19:19James Harrison:They then send them back to the executive committee. Now the executive committee can pick who it is that they actually want to put in front of the 32 player reps that represent the teams. They never actually go to the players anymore. When we did it in 2011, it went to the players. D. Smith almost lost. He says, you know what? Let me change this. Here's another issue. It's always done in the preseason. Why is it done in the preseason? You got a whole almost 90 players on each side. The dudes is not really going to be there anyway. The dudes is not going to be there. So you got 3 ,000 players voting for something that only 1 ,700 of them will actually be there on the roster.

20:05James Harrison:And of that 1 ,700 of that group, Joe, only about 700 of them are actually vested into the CBA program because what? Just three and a half years, four years? Four years, four games before you're vested. So the NFLPA needs to set a standard that you cannot vote on the CBA if you aren't vested. Unless you're vested. That'll make everything a lot easier. The NFL knows this damn well as well as just the NFLPA, but they're not going to change it because half of these cats in the NFLPA are fighting to get a job either in the NFLPA or transition over to the NFL. all right and you got young players coming in and you're telling me they first year they're going to vote to not approve it hell no they not and on top of that money management skills for a first second year player are horrible like so it's going to be people who are going to vote for that yeah but they can't hold out no question at that same time they say you know what we still go take that away and now they gave it to the 32 members now if you go and you want to see who they voted for you can't see it because there's no public record but you could ask a rep who he voted for he could also lie to you and tell you he voted for somebody that he didn't vote for so there is no transparency anywhere in this process if the nfl pa really wants to do what's best for their players and make real change, this is what needs to be done.

21:46James Harrison:You have to only let vested players vote, people who are into the program. That's like me letting my son go and vote on something that has no bearing on what happens to him. And like you said, the average NFL career is what, three and a half years? Three and a half years. Most of these dudes aren't even going to make it there. But they need them to get some of this stuff to pass. So with the nomination committee being the people who actually, I mean, sorry, with the executive committee being the people who actually nominate the executive directors, I'll be looking for my nomination for executive director of the NFLPA, like Cam Hayward, who is a committee member and a rep.

22:34James Harrison:And I also talked to Calais Campbell. We had a conversation. So I'll be looking forward to my nomination to be on the ballot to be executive director of the NFLP. I thank you guys in advance. OK, oh, the March meetings is coming up. And it was actually no update on the timeline of that at the Super Bowl either. But, you know, Mabin is doing such a great job and, you know, he's doing so much and he feels like he's, you know, he's doing what's necessary and giving the guys what they want. I don't feel like that's the case. I feel like you're doing a bum job of being the president. I feel like just like hell, you did a bum job.

23:17James Harrison:You're still doing a bum job of being a player.

23:21Joe Haden:Debo, I think some of the smartest things you said, though, was the vested players need to be the ones to vote. The players not even being able to vote now with the 32, we got to get that back. And then all these executive committees and all that, We got to keep that open because if it's for the players and it's for what's best for the players, you got to let us see what's going on. And there needs to be not no other little we pick this and then a small little group ends up decides what it really is. We don't even get to pick no more as the players. I understand. That's it. So you may say. They don't even bring it to the players.

23:55Joe Haden:Listen, best of players, like you said, we got to bring it to the players. That got to come back. And then also you going through the right steps and making sure like with Cam Hayward, with Calais, you need to be up and nominated. They need to be able to see like, since you're going through the steps, put them up there and then let's see, be able to get the votes. Because like, it just doesn't make any sense. It's too much little hidden stuff happening in the cut where it's like, no, this is if it's for the players, if it's for the best, then we need to put people that are promoting the best for the players and really going to get in here and be at y 'all's next.

24:28Joe Haden:Like you're fighting for the players. And the thing, too, the vested players, when they can get in and they know a lot of these dudes, like you said, the young dudes, the first ones that are in, not good with the money. They like, man, I don't care what y 'all talking about. Like, I'm just trying to play. I need that check. Like, whatever we got to do to make sure I'm playing when the season comes, as I'm trying to do, the people that are in it a little bit longer are already trying to, more thinking ahead, can better the game. I might be able to take this whole, this little setback right here because it's going to be better for the future, better for the upcoming of the game.

25:01Joe Haden:So once you eliminate those votes of the non-invested players, I'm with you that I think real, real change will happen. And then just more openness of showing us all these other executive branches and all these little committees inside of the NFLPA is crazy. It doesn't need to be that difficult. We need to be able to be open. And like, that's why you guys are here to protect us and we need to be able to vote and all that stuff. That's just, it gets gray. And it gets like, that's when you know. It's not gray. It's simple black and white.

25:33James Harrison:Black and white. Yes, yes. It's janky. It's very easy to see and self-explanatory. You worried about player safety. Everything is player safety, player safety. But you want to add another game. You want to go to 18. I told them when the player safety thing first started, I said they want to get 17 games. Then found out they wanted to get 18. I said the whole process is to get to 18 games. And where are we at right now? The big negotiation now is 18 games. We're negotiating a contract right now that's not up to, what, 20? Oh, sorry. What is it? 30, 28, 29, something, 30? It's not even up to them.

26:07James Harrison:But they're in negotiations right now to try and get that done. Because they know that everybody, and I won't say everybody, But a majority of the people in the NFLPA are not there for the players. They're there for themselves. That's it, bro. There's no way around it. There's no sugarcoating it. You just sat there and listened to the president give a, who said that? What you mean, who said? What are you talking about, bro? You should already know that. Like, what is he? Like, come on.

26:44Joe Haden:Didn't look real presidential.

26:46James Harrison:It never did. I went to the one, not this year, last year. I went to that one, and I'm sitting there, and that was when they had, what's his name? I can't think of his name right now. They got rid of him. Lloyd Howe. Okay. And I'm like, yo, who is this? Why is this dude even up here? And he's like, I ain't going to say what he said. But basically, that wasn't supposed to be long-term. Okay? And then they promote this dude to president in, what was it, 24th. Stop it. Executive, stop it. Get out of here, bro. Get out of here, man. Open it up. They wildin'. And here's the crazy thing, bro. And they're using the same process that they're questioning.

27:37James Harrison:Like, he's questioning, do the players trust you? Do they believe you? That's what the question was. Oh, yeah. No. change the process because they don't they're saying it i believe that we're working hard who gives a damn what you believe it ain't working hard it ain't working you're not even transparent with your process i don't even know march meeting is supposed to be whenever they ain't even said if that's gonna happen they even said what's going on with the process of of of electing people to actually be able to run for the executive director for of the nflpa it's like The interim on the stage don't even know.

28:15James Harrison:The guy that's acting this interim right now don't even know. Come on, bruh. We sound French and don't know shit.

28:24Joe Haden:Yeah. He looked a little foggy. Yes, he didn't look a little foggy. He looked very foggy.

28:29James Harrison:That look bad as their All-Star dunk game, Joe.

28:31Joe Haden:Oh, my God. How the... My man got there, James. He went up there, man, off the side of the backboard and hit his back, hit his back of his head. I was so glad he had his bush. Yeah, that was not entertaining. The dunk contest was a little off. I just want all the best dunkers in it. Zion, get in the dunk contest. Like, when we had my man that played for the— Michael Jordan and, you know, Dominique. Michael Jordan, obviously, but even Zach Levine.

29:03James Harrison:You know, I spun a web on that thing. Even Zach Levine, though, not too long ago, but we had Zach Levine.

29:08Joe Haden:And then we just had McClung. McClung was saving us from the G League. I think we just need to get the best talent. We need to get our jumpers, our Ja Morant. Ja Morant, Anthony Edwards, Zion Wilmerson. Y 'all get in it and the dunk contest will be back cranked. But let me talk about the all-star game. How about that, though, Deebo? I thought the thing about the NBA, though, bro, is the reason why I didn't like the past previous joints, they wasn't really playing hard. All the NBA players got to do, because it's not football. It's not like you can just, you don't got to run tackling, try to like blitz hit them low.

29:43Joe Haden:No, you're playing good, solid defense. You're not like fouling OC. You're playing hard. So you're not just giving away. You're not just opening up the lane. You're not just letting people drive by you. I love the way they started off. Wimby, hot, trying to dunk on people, pinning people's shot on the backboard. Like, no, like I'm out here to go ball. And it was, it was, they did it. So it was World Debo where they had like all like the, did you watch the All-Star game? I ain't watching, brother. All right, look, I'm about to tell you. I'm about to break it down. They did it actually five. Where did you go for me?

30:13Joe Haden:They did three teams, Debo. They did a world team where all are like Luka, Joker, Wimby, everybody from overseas. They did a stripes team, which was the OGs, Braun, KD, Curry. And then they did a stars team, which is the young all-stars, Anthony Edwards, you know what I'm saying, and them. So they set it up dope. And the first game was the young stars versus the world. and it was like a round robin game. Everybody's going to play each other a little bit, depending on how much you win, depends on who goes to the final, the fourth quarter. And they do it 12-minute games. It's like one quarter. So you're going to get good bump for 12 minutes.

30:52Joe Haden:Y 'all have watched that, bro. I didn't know it was like that. Yes. So that joint, it was a new little structure that they did. So I ain't going to lie, Adam Silver, the NBA, he cooked with this one. He cooked with the format, but you know who really cooked? The players cooked. because if they weren't playing hard, if they weren't really like trying to play defense and it just was like a little layup game, everybody's laying, it just would have been boring. But the world versus the young all-stars, they start off Anthony Edwards going versus, Anthony Edwards is a G. He's a dog. He wants to whoop everyone no matter what.

31:23Joe Haden:He's a goon. That's what he does. He plays basketball and he's great at it. So him versus Wimby, Wimby, seven foot six, one of the freakiest people I've ever seen in the world. And he's from overseas and he's like, But he's feeling I'm the best player in the world too. So you get these young stars, bruh, that come and they're hungry. It's not like they're just trying to be too cool. No, I'm not too cool. I'm strapping up. I'm blocking you. And I'm trying to win this joint. So you get to really watch the best players go against the best players and really play. And that's what made the joint so good.

31:54Joe Haden:Braun and them came in there. They was playing. And everybody's trying to hoop. It got to the last game. So the world, we got them out the way. Who was we? Who is we? You keep saying we. We is Braun in the United States of America. So the old school. I am stars, and I'm old school. Okay. So when I say I'm Braun, for real, I wanted Braun to win. I wanted the old school stars to win.

32:17James Harrison:I got you, home team, home team, Akron, Ohio here.

32:20Joe Haden:We get to the finals, and Braun and them got to play against the young stars. They're tired. They go down 12 to 1. They got one quarter to play. It's the last one they've been playing. They got smacked. They got beat by 20. And T.A. was winning the championship. The guy take us on E. So, yeah, everything went as planned until the last game. The last game was the worst a little bit because they was tired, but they just didn't play. The Young Stars whooped their ass. So, All-Star game, though, fire, Debo. I just like the NBA because it's the players, and it's just a little bit harder NFL. I mean, Rashawn Taylor.

32:59James Harrison:You telling me, Joe, that the NBA got better and we went and flipped to a flag football team.

33:05Joe Haden:And we went and flipped to that. We went and flipped to flag football. But I look at it because I'm like, NBA, they don't have to hurt each other. But they just really got to play. We don't have to hurt each other now. In the NFL, we could go back to when Sean Taylor just hit high. Hit high in the chest and just don't be trying to die. You're a player's safety. Debo, Debo, but look, how you want to, how you, I'm safety first, everything, but look, the only way the Pro Bowl was nice was when you had the best going versus the best.

33:37James Harrison:Four quarter, Pro Bowl got nice. Now it's a change in money. It's a change in money. That's why it got, it got competitive. You know, all that. Oh, you got to stay inside these, these, these hashes and all that. No, somebody going to get bopped.

33:50Joe Haden:We playing, we playing flag, man. I think we could do some more. We need to bring back the cool games though from like the old school. If we're going to do the Pro Bowl games, we need to bring back, like, the fastest player. I know people would love to see who you think's the fastest. Tyreek, racing versus, you know what I'm saying? Bruh! The fastest player joint. Or the longest throw. The quarterback. Tyreek. Who could throw the ball the farthest. Listen, bruh. I miss those games.

34:13James Harrison:Listen to me, bruh. Speaking of Tyreek, we got some breaking news, bruh. your boy eight-time Pro Bowler receiver Tyreek Hill is being released on March 1st after he released my boy after he dislocated his knee and tore his ACL he would be an unstricted free agent for the first time in his career though how long he how long is he out dude he just did it What was that last game? Second to last game?

34:47Joe Haden:Yeah, so you're going to be out for the season. We're going to have to just let him get back together. Oh, he got a 32. 32.

34:58James Harrison:How long Tyreek been in there? Like 10? I want to say maybe nine. Nine or 10? Yeah, something like that. Nine or 10?

35:07Joe Haden:Okay, yeah, you're getting up there. Damn, man. Ah. Who you think going? But, yeah, he's 32. You know who's signing Tyreek. You know who's signing Tyreek. Who? A fire, fire team that is all – you can't be a young team. You can't be a young team. You can't be a team that's building. You just need a piece. You need a piece.

35:33James Harrison:It's going to be hard, bro. It's going to be hard. It's going to be hard. It's going to be hard, I think. Peace. Next year. Next year.

35:39Joe Haden:He ain't going to be ready. I would think. Not this season. The season at the next. That's a whole year out, yo. I don't know. Yeah, you right. You know? I'm just praying for the best. But you know how that is, Deebo. When you start getting to the end and then you just did that

35:56James Harrison:and you making that bag. Yeah, well, it ain't going to be that bag. You know what I'm saying? I don't see you getting that bag after that. You know how it be after you hit that 30 mark. They like, oh, yeah.

36:07Joe Haden:That's what I'm saying. It's going to be looking like that for him, too. So when I'm saying Tyreek coming back and people going to be not trying to offer him, he'll be like, ho, ho, ho, what's going on? He might be like, if he was playing for 30 and they offered him five, he's like, man, see, y 'all bugging out.

36:24James Harrison:I don't know. Maybe he up for a reunion with Mahomes over there. Man, that's what I'm saying.

36:30Joe Haden:He'll go there or New England. Go win the ship. Go show him that he's still, like, show him he's still that.

36:36James Harrison:Yeah, for sure. Look at it, though. Olympics. Listen, Joe Oh, Lord Listen I saw this, Debo That was kind Listen, I ain't saying nothing I'm going to say something I ain't saying nothing You already know, man Listen, Joe I ain't going to say nothing I'm going to say I got to say it You got to say something Okay Now, the condo supply At the Olympics Ran out Because Of higher Than anticipated Demand Joe What you What you think about that What you got to say about that You tell me Give me some Give me some words What you...

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40:17Joe Haden:Of age-consented adults protecting themselves is what I like. Okay. That's it. Yep. I mean, look. Hold on.

40:34James Harrison:Listen, listen, Joe. You know I got my theories.

40:37Joe Haden:It's a lot, man. It's a lot. It's a lot. It's a lot of. It's cold out there. They're bundled. They're not chilling outside. There's a lot of snuggling up going on out there. There's a lot of, you know what I'm saying, cuddling up by the fire. There's a lot of friction. There's a lot of body heat. You got to stay cold. Yo, let me get into my theories, Joe. You got to stay warm. They got to stay warm.

40:53James Harrison:Get into my theories, Joe. Joe. All right, listen. Listen, this is not a new thing, although it is semi-new. I'm looking, and it's something that started. It's semi-new, semi-new. It started in 1988, okay? And I'm understanding they were promoting safe sets. And I think they were promoting safe sets because, again, I'm assuming they may have been some athletes coming home with less than desirable things.

41:36James Harrison:I'm just going to say, you know, maybe some athletes was coming home with STDs by the pound. Bowsers. Okay, by the pound. Lots. By the pound is crazy to say. I'm just saying. It was heavy. That's all I'm saying, Joe. Listen, this is the other me. I done went back. I had to revert back to get on the subject, Joe. I'm sorry about that, Lord. Thank you. All right. Peace. Listen, now, I think this is what happens now. They ain't had no prophylactics in sight. And they were probably taking chances. And you got young athletes at the prime of their career, from all over the world. Your body's in the best shape they've ever been in their life.

42:20James Harrison:All that built up energy. All that built up energy. All that make me warm. You know? People chill. Chill. Let me get to it.

42:34Joe Haden:Last one on that. I got one. It's my line for my man. Say. Because you don't want that latex. Safe sex, you better wear the latex because you don't want that latex. There we go.

42:52James Harrison:All right. I got you on that. Now, listen. Now, let me get back into my theory, Joe, okay? Okay. Now, you got these athletes in the best shape of their life, bodies like they never seen before. And they done went through their events. And they ain't got nothing else left to do, okay? And now you around all these, all these beautiful bodies. from all over the world. Best in the world, Craig. All over the world. And you don't, hey, you ain't never been, never been this, never been. If you never, you're there, you ain't never been. You're going to get that opportunity again, Joe. And it was taking chances.

43:26James Harrison:So in 1988, they said, hey, here you go. Go hard. Now, I know 10 ,000 condoms sound like a lot, but you're talking about young, young, young, strong. Built up. Jibo, stop changing your voice when you talking like that. You talking like that. Joe. Joe. Now, they knew, hey, 10 ,000? Sound like a lay. But look, go to Rio. Go to Rio by the CO. Two thousand. Brazil, De Janeiro? Rio. 400. Yes, Joe. 450 ,000 condoms. Hold up, Joe. That ain't it. They said just in case, here go 170 bottles of lube with it. Oh, my God. Hold up, Joe. Hold up, Joe. Now, let's go. Let's go to the other winner games. South Korea in 2018, Joe.

44:28James Harrison:They gave out 110 ,000 condoms in South Korea in 2018. They knew damn well 10 ,000 wasn't going to work in 2026. No. Y 'all knew what y 'all was doing.

44:42Joe Haden:No. Oh, man, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no.

44:47James Harrison:Now y 'all here making headlines for not giving them the proper respect. Not giving them the proper.

44:51Joe Haden:Not giving them the proper the protection.

44:53James Harrison:Respect, equipment, whatever you want to call it. Protection.

44:58Joe Haden:Lil Wayne, better wear a latex because you don't want that late text.

45:05James Harrison:Listen, I done heard what go down in these villages, and I heard I'm just I just I just said they dropping in another 175 ,000

45:17Joe Haden:yesterday I'm just I'm just hoping that everybody look as long as they just be just look this is the crazy part I know people out there getting caught up be careful I'm like this as long as you out there do your thing but like I just be careful out there Joe Joe

45:41James Harrison:Yes Bubba That is why If you got an other Ring with you Got to You're going to have a whole lot of joy About going to that village Old metal Oh you got to stay in the village You ain't got no choice And you can't bring a significant other to the village I don't know about bringing them to the village But you can go on outside the village But I'm just trying to tell you, Joe. Listen, I'm going to say, man, I ain't saying nothing, but I'm saying something. You seen any of them speed skaters? You seen them skaters? Yes, I have. Oh, Lord. Lord.

46:24Joe Haden:Lord, Joe. Mm. Mm-mm. Not me. Mm. Moo. Say the moo. Say the Matt Moushahi Hayden.

46:36James Harrison:Lord, Joe, it's a lot of single men and women's over there, man.

46:41Joe Haden:That's what I'm saying. Yes. They need to go. That's who hopefully out there getting to it. Come on, come on. Come on. Step outside.

46:51James Harrison:Boy, it got built up frustration. Built up joy. Anticipation. Debo, stop changing your voice. Make your head pop off. Anticipation. yo listen man listen speaking of your guy what's his name what's my guy defensive MVP Miles yeah she got her oh a silver medal

47:27Joe Haden:that's what I'm talking about and you see my man Miles out there he got a gold in 18

47:32James Harrison:we had a gold in 20 Dayton, Cleveland Browns got a silver in 26 I didn't who put that up there I didn't put that somebody put that tweet up there that's not me, I'm not saying that put that up there, I was just reading off the thing I'm not saying that y 'all better shut your mouths

47:53Joe Haden:shout out to Miles and my man his girl out there, keep winning these winning these medals keep winning these medals, keep meddling up there's only three gold, silver, bronze best in the world best in the world Craig best in the world Craig best in the world Craig and my man was red being a supportive boyfriend love to see it Miles love to see it I love seeing her

48:17James Harrison:did you see his shirt or his jacket he had on we ain't got the jacket man he had something on there telling him leave him alone he was he got a girl he got a girl yeah Miles

48:29Joe Haden:he know what's up

48:31James Harrison:Yes.

48:32Joe Haden:Miles is doing the right thing. I'm here to support my lady.

48:35James Harrison:Leave me alone. I am not here. I'm looking straight forward. Get off of me. I don't know, man. Might want to put some shades on when them speed skaters come around, though, man. Look here, man. See, there you go. I'm just saying, Joe. No. I'm just saying, Joe. Get some control, D-Bone. Listen. I do got control, Joe. What are you talking about? I got plenty of control. Look here. What's up, Coach? I got more control than a little bit. We're going over here, man. Check out these super chats, man. Super chat. We got Michaela Randall, 8843. Donated$5. It's Michaela. I'm looking at two different things.

49:26James Harrison:Michaela Randall. There we go. donated$5 said Debo what about them draft picks please give us a map to success listen we gonna get into that probably on Tuesday we actually gotta start looking at what we got on that cap and all that other good stuff Joe

49:50Joe Haden:all of that bro we gonna have a line of success of what we think is going to happen. And this is the other thing too, Debo. We just can't, I don't know. I don't know if we're going to instantly, like we said, we might not be as successful right away. So next year is like the plan I might put in place, I'm going to have two couple different plans. But, I mean, all of them don't lead to us being like the best, like, you know what I'm saying? But I know the Steelers and the fans are ready to be not the best for maybe a year or two. Not too long.

50:25James Harrison:Listen, I'm going to tell you right now, ain't nobody ready to be not the best for a year or two. The Steelers definitely is not thinking that. I'm just saying it out loud. Concede in anything. I already said it, Joe. That's what I'm saying. I'm getting ready. I'm getting ready. I'm getting ready to get my mind right. You know. I'm getting my mind right. I ain't got no problem with that. being a little less than best as long as we can come up and climb that ladder right back all the way to the top. Ain't no issue to me, baby. Look here, brother. We're going to have to get it going. We already...

51:06James Harrison:We over, coach. Look here. We want to thank you guys for joining us on this episode of D-Boy and Joe. Episode 70 With 70 ,000, okay? We will be back here tomorrow. Guys, please make sure you like, subscribe, and download where you get your show.

51:31Joe Haden:Joe? Yo. We will be here tomorrow talking more Steelers. Then we're going to bring back up my Browns and how we're going to get right also. Bring them back into the mix. Talk about my Shador. You know what I'm saying? How we're going to get all that right. But we'll be here tomorrow, man. And meet us, see us tomorrow. And we are.

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53:38Joe Haden:And I'm Austin Hankwitz. We host the podcast, Mind the Business, Small Business Success Stories, produced by Ruby Studio in partnership with Intuit QuickBooks. We're back for season four to talk to some incredible small business owners. The big thing about working in tech is that it's ever evolving, ever changing. Everyone's a rookie. That's how fast the industry is changing. So what I'm really excited about is to be part of that change. So listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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