Deebo & Joe Part 2: Joey Porter Jr. Upgraded to 53 man roster + Browns keep 4 QBs on Final roster

24:34James Harrison:No, I'm not. The league, bro, it just comes at you so fast, and it's not for long. You got to be balling, And especially when you get that second contract, it's really more the DBs. You can't be getting beat deep. You got to start making tackles. You got to throw your head in there. So when you are making that bag, the accountability for you to be out there balling and just being on top of stuff. So the eye in the sky don't lie. When you get bad tape out there and you're making a lot of money, people hold you to a standard. Now they're just expecting so much. and they know it's just younger dudes that are coming in the league that are not getting paid as much that are balling out and trying to get to that second contract.

25:14James Harrison:You get your Joey Porter Juniors that are making$2 million a year. He's trying to get to that next deal. So when you get that next deal, if Joey Porter Jr. starts to not ball, people are instantly going, it's going to be quick. It's going to be a, he's going to probably, or should he get cut from the Steelers? Should he be released? The next team that signs him, you instantly have to start balling. You might be getting paid a whole lot less. The game, once you get that first contract, they're not playing with you. It's no more you got years to develop and figure it out. No. Those were when you were first coming in your first four years.

25:46James Harrison:Once you get that second contract, if you're not balling, we're ready to get you up out of here. You know what I'm saying? They're trying to find reasons not to pay you. They're trying to find reasons not to keep you in the league. So that's why when I look at Joey, you haven't done anything wrong. You stayed out the way. You've done nothing but work hard. You're a great teammate. You're a great locker room dude. Your performance is what it is. you're continuing to get better. Now's your time to get the bag. So now when you're getting that bag, you still have to do the same exact things that you're doing right now.

26:12James Harrison:We got to get the bag first. No, no, no. That's what I'm saying. But that's why I'm looking at the TJ. The TJ is the Minka is the one. When you get paid, then you continue to do the same thing over and over again. And that's not just random. That's just who you are. So then you ball out and you keep coming in. You keep doing the same things. And that's how you get your next bag. So like with Trayvon, you got the bag and then your play just didn't match. it started going down. You started getting beat. You weren't getting as 10 picks. You weren't getting picked six. Injuries, all that. Instantly now, they're looking at you like, oh no, we need that 10 picks.

26:43James Harrison:We need that six picks. We need those PBUs. We don't need you to be getting scored on. Like, you gave them up four touchdowns this season. Like, that's not what we paid for. So it instantly turns to, what have you done for me lately? Your first four years in the league, you can have a little wiggle. You can get hurt and they'd be like, okay, he might, he's going to be able to get, he's young, he's developing, da-da-da. Okay, after that, after you get paid, after what you've done for me now, you better continue that or you're getting up out of there. So that's why it doesn't really surprise me because the league don't play.

27:14James Harrison:What have you like? Show me something now. Yeah, I'm 100 % with you over there. Yeah, there's no way. I mean, like I said, I'm not surprised. He would have had to come in there and do something spectacular to really be there, be there, especially with everything else beforehand and then getting to where he's at now. There's no surprise. But the Dolphins coach, Jeff Hathaway, says he won't measure the team's success this season. See the whole thing. Hey, listen. Listen, listen. Please, I have to see the whole thing because there we go.

27:54James Harrison:I can't hear it. Yes. Yes. You tried to get my dog Halfley looking crazy. The sound is not playing, bruh. Okay. It's going to come. Oh, my goodness. Jeff Halfley was my DB coach. Look here, man. Yeah. For the Browns. We went to the Pro Bowl together. I love Coach Havre so I'm going to have to see her exactly I want to hear exactly what he says before I go out here saying things crazy because I got to see it bar for bar I got to see it bar for bar it has to be context because you know why we play we play to win the game we play to win the game Joe we play to win the game I don't know what you're talking about like it's no other reason that you play to win the game and the team's success is measured by wins and losses.

28:53So you're telling me that if you lose all the games, that don't mean you're not successful? And that tells me if you win all the games, that still doesn't mean that you're successful and you win the championship? Like, what are we talking about here? Like, I don't understand what's exactly being said here, but... Because it's at the end of the... From what he said... Because it's at the end...

29:12James Harrison:Because it's at the end of the day. It's about wins and losses, Debo. Debo. Yes, it's 100 % about wins and losses. That's what gets you to the next level, which gets you to the next game, which gets you each win stacks into you hopefully winning a Super Bowl. At the end of the game, I can understand. But I'm saying if he's saying that there's going to be plenty small victories inside of the games where you play good and there might have been two, three plays. We got to get that sound because you trying to get in too many outs right here. right now. The only reason, only reason, Devo, is, only reason why is because there's no other, there's no other thing I could understand for why my man coach Jeff Halfley would say that because Jeff Halfley coached me and he didn't, he like, it was when, he knew like, he never said this, he never said this.

30:06He never said, he said, Joe, like, it's not gonna matter if you get touchdowns on you. It was, we're not gonna measure your success by that. Nah, not coach Half. Not coach Half. I'm just saying I think you're just going to have to take my word I guess I'm going to have to I don't think he had any mix up of wording or had it chopped up to something other than exactly what was said I don't think so I could be wrong but who knows I don't

30:51yep

30:52James Harrison:like so I don't I don't because he's what he's safe because the video is sound the video ain't got sound so you say just for now okay just for now because when I get the full what he said that's like saying we safe over here with the Steelers man we good we got four quarterbacks we done let E go we done we got we got Deshaun Elliott that got a comeback from IR and on top of that, we're our O-line. We ain't even had an O-line that done played together in two consecutive preseason games. We don't even know what that looked like, man. And that's a big part of having an O-line that is going to have any successes.

31:30They got to play together, dude. They got to mesh together. You got to know what your guy is going to do that's playing next to you week in and week out. And you get that over time when you get to play together week in and week out, practice week in and week out. Like, I don't, I'm nervous. I'm nervous as a hooker in church, man.

31:48James Harrison:This is why the only, because the only, the question mark for us right now is, when I say us right now, I'm talking about our Steelers, is the offensive line because with the offensive line, that's everything. If we don't have blocking for A-Rod, that's going to mess up our run game and that's going to mess up our pass game. You talk about getting behind the sticks. If we're getting smacked on first down, that's going to set us a whole schedule off. So we're going to need to get the offensive line big time. I don't care if they ain't got no camaraderie yet. We're going to figure out some camaraderie.

32:27James Harrison:Do you know what the scheme is? Do you know who you're blocking? Okay, we can get the camaraderie together, but we need you pushing people backwards. We need you moving this way instead of going that way. Let me say this. Uh-oh. We and I want to win. You'll hear this. Uh-oh, did they get them back? But success is not just defined by winning. Just. Right? That's why we play the game. Yes, that's why we play the game. And I think everybody wants to win in everything that we do. But it's kind of like what I was just talking about before. We're going to compete. I want to win in everything that we do.

33:01James Harrison:I've said that over and over. But at the same time, we need to make sure that this foundation and the process is built the right way. And like I was saying, that there's no shortcuts because it's bigger than that right now. and those are the things that are really important is we move this thing forward and we build and we find out who we have, what we have because we want to get back on top and to do that, you got to go through some hard stuff with competing in mind to win in everything that we do but keeping the main thing our process and the detail and the toughness and not taking any shortcuts and not flinching along the way regardless of what happens so at the end of the year, we can look back and say this foundation is strong and we're not going away.

33:48Hey Joe, I ain't gonna lie to you man. You know what that sound like to me bro. That sound like hey, I've been looking at my team and we're in trouble. We're in trouble right now. And listen, if we don't win now, do not fire me because it's a process. We're building. It's a process that we're going through right now and we're building. We gotta get the foundation right. So it's not just wins and losses. I'm putting it out here. I'm letting you know, letting everybody know. It's not just wins and losses. Now, I got to build this. I got to build this. I got to build this. Okay? Give me a chance.

34:16Rome wasn't difficult in one day. No, it was not. But listen, I'm just telling y 'all right now, give me a chance. Give me an opportunity. It ain't going to be just wins and losses. I understand that, but that's the most important part. 1 ,000%. It's not just wins and losses, but we got a foundation that we're building. We got to see what we got. We got to get them out there, let them play, let them build together, and do all the other stuff. because right now, what y 'all go get is what I'm hearing is it ain't going to look pretty on that win-loss. But we might have some development and success on the inside that don't accommodate and correlate to the wins and losses.

34:54That's what I'm hearing. He's saying, hey, we about to lose this year. Would you?

34:57James Harrison:See, look, hold on. See, I'm hearing the same thing. That's what I was expecting him to say. And I knew that he didn't just say that because he said, you play to win the game. He's not saying things that he didn't, that he doesn't not know. You know what I'm saying? And then this is what else I'm telling you too. His roster, and he's the coach of the team. He wasn't able to establish all this stuff. He didn't come there. They're paying Tua Tangabalua,$45 million, that he's not even on their team. They're still paying Tyreek Hill. He's not on their team. They're still paying Jalen Waddell. He's not on their team.

35:32James Harrison:They're still paying Jalen Ramsey. He's not on their team. So he's like this. Look, look guys. Guys, don't shoot me because I'm trying to build some stuff here. We first started, we built with straw because we talk about cap casualties. We got this. Oh, you told me the money don't matter, Joe. No, no, no, no, no. The cap don't matter. Look, look, look, look, look. With their team, it matters. The Miami Dolphins, when you paying way more that's not on your team than who's on your team, you can't. You paying a quarterback that's on another whole team$45 million, he's not even on his squad. So I'm like, okay, that sucks.

36:07James Harrison:You're paying Jalen Ramsey still. Tyreek Hill still. So coach, my man, my good man, Coach Jeff Halfley, is like this. Looky here, guys. I'm coming to build a foundation here. Y 'all left me with two hands behind my back. So obviously, wins and losses. But show, I'm going to come out here and build this product. But we need to have dudes that are on time to meetings, even if we losing. God damn. Don't not be showing up. You know what I'm saying? I got to build this. from the foundation. So that's what he's saying, Debo. Okay? It's not his bad. Coach DeFle is a great coach. He wants to win every game.

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40:19You ain't gonna see nothing coming up above the ground yet. I gotta put it in the foundation. We gotta be built on a strong foundation.

40:25James Harrison:Guys, it's been going, some crazy things have been happening over here and I'm coming to change the thing, but it wasn't built into that. So I'm working. The plan is to win the game, but don't expect us to win all the games yet. That's what he said. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to win. Okay. I got you, Joe. I got you. I guess I can work with me here while I work with y 'all. But don't say that out loud. I don't want you saying that out loud. That's why he was prefacing. He was like, when he's saying what we were saying, you play to win the game. I want to win everything that we do.

41:03James Harrison:I'm prefacing my comment too. Let y 'all guys know. Trust me where I'm trying. But sometimes if you go into a gunfight with a pencil sharpener, then you might lose. Damn, Joe, a pencil sharpener, Joe? Like not even a knife? A knife. You coming in with a knife. You coming in with a little, you know what I'm saying? Something. No armor though. You paying the other armor. Nothing. You're paying the people that you're fighting against. That's what he's saying. You saying he's trying to build a whole roster with half roster money? Yes. Trying to build a whole. He's saying, y 'all need to realize this.

41:38I got a lot of money on the books right now. And I can't put over here. Why he just say that, Joe?

41:46James Harrison:Because it was for the team, too. He's trying to build character. He's letting them know. Y 'all going to come in here every day and work your. So he's letting them know. coaching you up. Hey, listen. We might not. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. He's saying that when we come in here and we watch this tape, it's going to be how do we end up losing this game? But were we on, were we on our assignment and alignments and techniques? No. That's why we lost. We got to do better here. Okay. Okay. All right. I mean, if that's what you're saying, Joe, but as I was saying before, they ended up getting video back.

42:26Over here in Pittsburgh, they ain't keeping four quarterbacks over there at the Dolphins, is they? They got four quarterbacks too? I don't think so.

42:35James Harrison:No, no, no. They just got Young Bull from Greenback.

42:43I don't... I'm just stuck on getting rid of you. Yeah. Holding on to four. Plus, Plus, don't forget.

42:57James Harrison:Be expecting queen to be coming downhill. That's all I'm going to say. I'm expecting to come downhill. I'm expecting to come downhill, but I'm just saying. And I need Heron to anchor. We need to get some anchor. Come on, man. I need some anchor. If it's me, I would switch up. I would put... No, I'm just saying I would have E as my first and second down guy and switch him at the position and put P at the, where, I mean, put Queen where P-Dub is and have them as my first and second down, depending on, you know, formation and personnel and all that. And then when it came to more of a passing situation, yeah, have Queen and P-Dub.

43:52James Harrison:But with P-Dub, what Queen is getting paid? Queen is getting paid. He's paid as our main full-time first and second, third down backer. P-Dub. Right. I'm not saying taking him out. I'm saying P-Dub would be sitting out. Okay. Okay. Versus first and second run type stuff. And then you would have Queen and E in there. And then when it came to more of a pass type situation, then you would have P-Dub and Queen. in there. Queen will always be in there. No, no, I feel you. I'm just saying switch the position so he would be playing both insides. Nope. I hear you. Well, that's just the way I'm looking at it just from what I'm seeing as far as what we've seen over the last year.

44:39Yeah, I feel you. I'm a little distraught. Yeah.

44:49James Harrison:I feel you, D-Bow. I feel you. I'm just expecting them two to do what they said. I'm hoping that they do. I know, I know, I know. I'm really hoping that they do. That's what I'm saying. But if I'm going from recent history and what we have seen, what does that tell me? Like, that was our issue. We had an issue with people running the rock on us. And it can't all be, you know, put on the D-line. some of it can be, but when it comes down to it, as you start, you go back and look, I started to have to go back and look, and I'm like, yo, some of that stuff I'm seeing, it's just misread. Why are you even moving that way in this read that you're getting from the offensive line?

45:35That don't make no sense to me in some of this stuff. Oh, you're right.

45:41James Harrison:You're right. But that's the good part. We're the season about to get ready to start, Debo, and we are going to be looking at plays. we look at plays hopefully we get all 14 days of an offensive line that is the offensive line that will be playing together in the first regular season game against Atlanta on the 13th so hopefully all that can be uh meshed together a whole lot better than it has been I just yeah I don't know brother let's check these super chats we got Nate Griffin what is that a 1 or a 3 or R is that an I R 3 R I don't know what it is 2 dollars said Debo come no I'm back Debo come back them muscles ain't for show these muscles for show now show for show they muscle for show here this all I do is show for show show they for show for show they for show I can't get out there Joe been working out today Y 'all might want to talk to him about it.

46:44Like, Joe, Joe been out there. Yeah, I did. He been working out. Yeah, rocked up. Like, what you do to Jay, Joe? What you do? I did chest today. I did chest and tris. Oh. Oh, okay. I was making sure because it didn't look like you touched him. Bing, and I threw behind.

46:59James Harrison:I'm laying down on the bar. Chest joint, and then, ah, boom. Ah. It's called tricep extension. Yeah, the chest joint where. No, no, no. But I got the bar, though. I got the bar. I'm doing the bar bench, and then I'm putting it behind, all the way behind my head. That's something else. You know what that's called. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. That's the name. Yeah, that ain't called nothing else, man. That's called the tricep. I know you trying to call it something else. It ain't. But you don't know what it is. That's all there's to it, Joe. Listen, muscles are for sure. I can't come back. I'm 48 years old.

47:34I'm closer to 50 than I am anything else. If I came back out there, I'm going to mess around, hit somebody, and I don't know what's going to happen. I just feel like my bones... You know how you see they do that sports science where you have somebody hit or they be doing the MMA where the dude kicked and they show his bones cracking and stuff. That would be me. That's what I feel like. Cool, bro. Brittle bones. Dude, man, listen. AD is 35 years old, okay? I played until I was 39, okay? You want me to come back at 48? No, sir. D-Bo, that's crazy. That's crazy. That's a diabolical. Look here. We got JB.216.

48:21I said, Joe always repping the land. You know what time it is, JB216?

48:26James Harrison:Go Cavs. Go Brownies. Look here. Mike, Mike back. We got Mike, Mike, man. He back with$5. He said, what up, D-Bo and Joe? between the four quarterbacks on the Steelers and the four on the, I guess he's saying the Browns. Which four would y 'all pick from the eight? You go, Joe. A-Rod, Drew, Shador, and Will.

49:05Say it again?

49:07James Harrison:no I'm gonna go A-Rod say it again A-Rod, Shador, Drew and Will I think Deshaun's better but it's just I'm putting contracts involved and everything that's what I'm saying because I'm just paying them peanutty buddies right now say that again I said I'm involving contracts too I understand I'm saying the names no man you heard me I'm not gonna say it no more time No, I'm trying to internalize what you're saying. No, your turn, Debo. I said mine three times. Who are your quarterbacks? A-Rod.

49:52Drew. Howard. Shador. You see how I put my people first?

50:02James Harrison:You see how I put my people first? I put A-Rod because I think A-Rod is just the best quarterback out of. You know what I'm saying? Right, right, right. So you want to put him in order? No. Oh, you don't. I don't actually. Huh? Matter of fact. Sure. Yes. Let's put him in order. How would you put him in order? You first. I already know what you're going to do. Go ahead. I'm going A-Rod. A-Rod. Howard, Oller, Shador. Where you at? I'm going A-Rod. Then I'm going Will. Then I'm going Shador. Then I'm going. I'm not Will. I'm in. I'm going Drew. I'm going A-Rod, Drew, Shador, Will.

51:02James Harrison:Just for right now. Just from what I've seen with the eye test. I don't know. Drew looking pretty good. He's looking pretty good right now. You go put Shador in front of Howard just from the eye test? The eye test would tell me that might not be right. I like the way that Shador can throw the ball downfield. I like the way Will can too. But Drew Aller, I don't know. His release and the way he moves in the pocket, it looks quarterback. it looks good quarterback to me it looks really it looks nice okay we got 50 pesos Carlos is that avarice? I can't see the end of that one what's that? it's Carlos something I can't see the dot dot let me look on my phone hold on Carlos Alvisu 7044 for 50 pesos, said, hey, Debo, I heard your interview with Alvarello and Archibald.

52:12Oh, they're talking about the Stiller's Mexican broadcast. Oh, okay, yes, yes. That's why I'm horrible on that name. Yeah, yeah, he said, good to hear you and Joe will be coming to Mexico in the coming years. Yes. Joe, we in Mexico sometime within the next couple of years. Two to three years. Maybe sooner. We don't know. We've been having some conversations, you know, with the Stiller Mexico thing. So it may, it may, you know, international. It may happen a little sooner, Joe.

52:58James Harrison:You know, man, I've been there. My passport has been hidden since, but you know I'm always down, especially if I'm going with you. You know what I'm saying? I know you know people out there, too. So, if you know already. You know you can't go nowhere without me. Hey, Joe, I roll with a whole security team. I roll with three trucks. I got one on me, one in the front, one in the back. Is this just when we out the country? Hey, listen, listen. I'm telling you, it's only out of the country. Yeah, it's only out of the country, man. Because, you know, I ain't going to lie to you, man. You know, it's a little dangerous over there in Mexico City now.

53:37You know, you get, there's a possibility you're getting, you know, grabbed up or something, you know what I'm saying? I might have to get folk. I might have to get folk, you know what I'm saying? I ain't going to lie because I can't communicate. That's what I'm saying. I don't even know what's going on. So I don't even know what the offer is, you know what I'm saying? I can't get got. I might have to go with folk. I might have to go running front, back, left, and right.

53:56James Harrison:You don't got to be outside like, yeah, we ain't got to be outside too much unless everybody, unless we just know where exactly we going. Steelers fans. Yeah, I'm going to need at least 20. 20 bodyguards. Everybody got ARs. Full SWAT gear. I'm going to need all that, man, because, you know, we got to make sure we can get to our Steelers fans over there, man. Because you know what else, though, Debo? But it's a bunch of haters over there that want to snatch us. You know what I'm saying? But you know what else, though? It's some haters over there. We come in peace. You know what I'm saying? That's the thing.

54:29James Harrison:We come in peace. You know what I'm saying? We come in peace into parties. We come in peace. Trying to vibe. That's it. Tequila. Repo. Just a little Repo. Nothing crazy. Wine. I ain't drinking nothing but straight. Straight. No water, no ice, no nothing. What you drinking? Hey, and make sure you drink bottled water, bro. factual. They ain't about to mess me all the way up, Debo. They got me. I ain't going to lie to you. They got me, man. It got me. It was just a little bit of ice that melted in the glass and I dumped the ice out and I went on ahead and poured it. I got it. It got me. Joe, I was locked up on that plan.

55:13I told you about that, man. It was by the grace of God I made it to the bathroom, brother. Got to be more careful. Yeah. Oh, my goodness, bro. Look here. All right, man. Well, we going to be back here tomorrow. Tomorrow. Yes. We will be back here tomorrow and that's September, start of the month. First day of the month. September 1st. First day of the month, man. I got to go. It's the first of the month. I got to get my check in something, something. Bone thugs, all that stuff. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. I can't help. I'm bone thug type dude. Y 'all gonna have to Forgive me for that But look here Joe We wanna thank y 'all For joining us On this episode Debo and Joe Please make sure You like Subscribe Like like like Like like Subscribe And download Download download download Put it on automatic Auto download Spotify Automatic download So you don't miss nothing I heart So you don't miss nothing Okay We gonna see y 'all tomorrow

56:21James Harrison:First of the month Same time same place Let's get it And we out. How you doing today, Joe?

56:35James Harrison:Let me tell you something, Debo. Debo, it's my time real quick.

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