In short
Steelers vs. Bengals matchup talk (Joey Porter Jr. vs. Ja’Marr Chase/Tee Higgins), plus debate over Joey Porter Jr.’s contract/guarantees and Deshaun Watson’s message to Browns fans ahead of Cleveland’s home opener vs. the Panthers.
Guests
Joey Porter Jr. (Steelers cornerback; discussed as a potential starter/No. 1 receiver matchup; contract dispute over guaranteed money/“structure,” with figures mentioned like $33M vs $23M guaranteed and franchise/IR leverage). Deshaun Watson (Browns QB; said he doesn’t want to “go to war” with fans and wants support and a win).
Key claims
Porter Jr. camp wants guaranteed first two seasons; Steelers can franchise him twice; best-case scenarios include season ending without franchise and/or getting value via franchise/IR; Watson must win with “no mistakes” to regain trust.
Notable examples
Porter Jr. “sharpen iron on iron” vs Bengals receivers; Watson’s stated goal for a “big dub” vs Panthers; discussion of Chase/Tee Higgins performances and receiver celebrations/dances.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VODiscussion on Current Events
1:09 to 1:40
Recap of recent discussions and events from Roland Martin's podcast.
“Didn't catch the latest Roland Martin unfiltered podcast?”
Joey Porter Jr. vs. Bengals Receivers
1:40 to 3:50
Analyzing Joey Porter Jr.'s upcoming matchups against Bengals receivers.
“Well, he said, you know, that, you know, he sees himself definitely playing this year.”
Contract Negotiations and Guaranteed Money
3:50 to 6:20
Exploring the implications of contract negotiations for Joey Porter Jr.
“It's, to me, to me, it's, you're crazy than cat shit, as my people would say, if you think that man about to step out there and play football on that field.”
Franchise Tag and Future Implications
6:20 to 8:30
Discussion regarding the franchise tag and its potential impact on players.
“And after that, you're going to go out there and outperform it.”
Deshaun Watson's Relationship with Browns Fans
8:30 to 12:09
Examining Deshaun Watson's attempts to win back support from Browns fans.
“the best thing that can happen for me as an owner is to get some type of value from it.”
Expectations for Deshaun Watson
12:09 to 14:00
Discussing performance expectations for Deshaun Watson as the season progresses.
“he doesn't want to be at war with the Browns man with the Browns fans brother listen oh I mean, yeah, I mean, the biggest thing, like, I don't never try to go at war with the fans.”
Analyzing Deshaun Watson's Performance
14:00 to 15:00
The hosts discuss the expectations for Deshaun Watson's performances and his relationship with fans.
“It's not my fault when they already on his neck.”
Discussion on Quarterback Expectations
16:04 to 19:00
The hosts continue discussing the challenges Deshaun Watson faces in winning back fans and his overall performance expectations.
“And the argument is, do you want to win?”
Future of the Browns' Quarterback Position
19:00 to 23:00
A conversation on the Browns' quarterback strategy and potential future signings.
“And his performance is what makes that happen.”
Jamar Chase and Player Celebrations
23:00 to 28:00
Exploring Jamar Chase's celebrations and the implications of NFL fines for player expressions.
“If everything don't happen, we could trade up.”
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Player Reactions to Fines
28:00 to 28:50
Discussion on how players navigate fines for celebrations and gestures.
“I think we got his thing about the fines or whatever.”
Jamar Chase's Play and Its Impact
28:50 to 31:00
Analyzing Jamar Chase's memorable plays and their cultural significance.
“Higgins and Jamar Chase, I'm telling you, they had a plan.”
Changing Celebrations in NFL
31:00 to 32:00
Discussion on evolving acceptance of player celebrations and the associated restrictions.
“Yeah, they went an area where they were like, yo, you can't do nothing.”
Fantasy Lineup Discussion
32:00 to 33:20
Hosts share their fantasy football lineups and strategies for the upcoming week.
“So Keezo used to do the pull out the thing and just shoot the bow.”
Listener Interactions and Team Performance
34:00 to 35:30
Engagement with listeners discussing team performance and player roster updates.
“The games, this funny baby bot character.”
Browns vs. Steelers Rivalry
35:30 to 42:01
Hosts debate the upcoming match-up between the Browns and Steelers and their expectations.
“He said, why the organization so stingy?”
Respect and Team Dynamics
42:01 to 44:31
The hosts discuss the importance of respect, fines, and team spirit in sports.
“He said, Debo can't renege on them tickets.”
Fan Interaction and Future Plans
44:31 to 47:19
The hosts engage with fans and discuss potential plans for travel and appearances.
“There's things going on in the world and there's violence.”
Cleveland vs. Pittsburgh: A Personal Journey
47:19 to 50:29
Joe shares his experience of leaving Cleveland for Pittsburgh and the reasons behind it.
“I'll rock with you, but you be out here line sometimes.”
Transcript
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0:33So keep showing up for our girl. Show up for each other. Thanks to Geico and our listeners. Warning, the following song has been rated dangerously catchy and may not be suitable for grown-ups. One, two, three, four. One, two, three, four. Knock, knock, knocking at the door. Knock, knock, knocking at the door. Five, six, who is it? Five, six, who is it? It's Cowie and Elliot. It's Cowie and Elliot. Lingo Kids, only suitable for kids. If it gets stuck in mom's head, that's not our problem. Lingo Kids! Everything kids love. Download now for free. Didn't catch the latest Roland Martin unfiltered podcast?
1:12Here's what you missed. People wake up and go, oh damn, wait a minute, hold up. They changed all of that? Yes. It's real. This is a wholesale attack. It is targeting black people in every federal agency. It's raw. White folks have never allowed that reckoning to last more than a decade. Catch Roland Martin's daily commentary on the Black Information Network. And download Roland Martin Unfiltered on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah, yeah. Well, he said, you know, that, you know, he sees himself definitely playing this year. And, you know, we had some reporters that asked him about, you know, his matchup with the Bengals receivers.
1:54and he had distance.
1:58Yeah, you know, it's always a good matchup with the Bengals and what they got over there, their talent, you know, and I always wanted to sharpen iron on iron. So definitely getting out there with those guys is always a good matchup. Is there any help that you're familiar with this team, those receivers, this offense as far as, you know, ramping up, not needing to know what they do this week?
2:18James Harrison:I mean, yeah, I mean, I played them six times. T and Chase five times each because they were both hurt one time out of the six. But, yeah, I feel like I have a good indication on those guys and what they like to do. And I never really struggled against them, so it's always been fun for me getting out there. Joe, it sounds like he going to be playing this game. You think he's going to be playing? You think he's stepping out there? What's going on? It sounds like he's going to be out there. I mean, this is what I call him pushing himself, saying what his tape speaks on, what he had, like adding this, what I've done, I've shown when I played against these dudes that, you know what I'm saying, they don't score on me.
2:58James Harrison:So I think it's kind of like, I hope he plays. I don't think that he's going to play. But if he does, he's just saying like, you know what I'm saying, this is my value. This is what I do versus number one receivers. But I'm looking at it like Joey Porter Jr. is kind of in a situation where if Sean Dean and if Asante Samuel Jr., when we're going up against these dudes, bust in the secondary, when there's more busts happening, when there's one-on-one coverages, and if Asante Samuels plays well, or if he doesn't play well versus Jamar Chase and T. Higgins, I think that's kind of where the situation, like Joey Porter, like y 'all seeing me out there, it's kind of, you're going to be able to know my value more when we're going against the ones.
3:40James Harrison:I hope he's out there playing and working in the condition and getting the back right, but we already spoke on, you know what I'm saying, situation. We're going to see how it is. I hope he goes out there, but you know what I'm saying? You never know about that bat. Yeah. It's, to me, to me, it's, you're crazy than cat shit, as my people would say, if you think that man about to step out there and play football on that field. And, yeah, that's just not going to happen. I think everybody done backed themselves into a corner, and everybody got to stand in that corner right now. Still has done backed themselves into a corner because they don't negotiate the season.
4:16He done backed himself into a corner because whatever they wanted to offer, he didn't take. So now everybody is sitting in the corner, backed up. They're back against the wall. And at the end of the day, it's going to come down to who want to be the most stubborn. And the person that's going to have the most power in the end is going to be the Steelers because they can franchise this man two times. if you don't play for two seasons i don't know anybody that set out two seasons on a issue like this and came back and like i said played at any level that they were previously accustomed to so it's it's not um it's not looking it's not looking it's not looking positive bro and like that's great talk that's what you should say that's what you're supposed there?
5:12Debo, this is what I'm telling you.
5:15James Harrison:No, because at the end of the day, Joey Porter Jr., we're talking about, we're talking about just for, you got to step back out of it and we understand what is the guaranteed money for him and his contract and what he feels like he deserves. And if we're looking at$33 million that the Steelers are offering him as guaranteed money, that doesn't make any sense. 56 that we're saying is that's$23 million in guaranteed. We're not even talking about adding$23 million to a contract. It's just the language. It's just guaranteeing the first two seasons, I would think. So I'm like, for Joey Porter Jr., why would he have to not guarantee?
5:52James Harrison:We're not asking for no more, just guarantee two years. So if you want him to really be there, you believe he's going to be there. We have the average per year. It's two years. We're not asking you to guarantee the whole contract. We're asking you just to guarantee two years of the contract. You know what I'm saying? And so I would not want to have to put Joey Porter Jr. in a position to be like, no, you've got to go take that 30. You've got to go take 30 million guaranteed. No. Like, I wouldn't want to do that for my son. You're playing a sport. You can get her. Guaranteed. That's what the deal is.
6:22James Harrison:And after that, you're going to go out there and outperform it. We're not trying to. He don't think he's being greedy in that situation. No. There's no greed. That's just like that's just what the market is and what I'm deserving. I'm not asking for over that. I'm asking for what I feel like, what I'm compensated, what I should be compensated for. The big thing that has always been heard from him and his camp is structure. It's structure of the contract. So when you say structure, obviously you're talking about guarantee dollars of what's going to be paid and so forth. And with that 33 coming out, bro, I'm thinking that that is exactly what the issue came down to.
7:02But again, everybody done backed themselves into a corner. And I think the best thing that could happen, I think, I know, the best thing that could happen for him is that the year goes out, they either IR him or they don't do anything. And at the end of the year, they don't franchise him. They let him go free. me as a owner or as a team in that position, I'm not letting you just go free without being able to first try and get some type of value from you.
7:40James Harrison:Now you see that with what the 49ers doing with IU. I like you not. Why don't you let him go? Because you're not taking a chance of somebody that would miraculously miraculously out of their mind decide they want to pick him up and we not get no value for him. Did you know Joey Porter is? And he is. He is out of, out of, out of control. And they still won't just let him go. Yes. Asset Joey Porter Jr. is an asset. We know that you went off from twenty eight million dollars a year if he was an asset. Yeah, I'm just not I'm not real.
8:25like I said, the best thing, that's the best thing that can happen for him. And, again, the best thing that can happen for me as an owner is to get some type of value from it.
8:34James Harrison:Best thing that can happen for us is, next thing you know, Steelers actually have been, the next thing you know, Steelers actually do negotiate during the season. And that's what I said. And we just... Negotiate, like, you backing yourself into it. Like, you back yourself into it. It's on the wall, man. You're not doing it. Don't do it for the pride. Right. Pride is overrated. I'm like, come on, guys. All other teams, you can still talk. You got the same phone number. Don't act like you just, you got just 24 hours a day. Come on, Omar. Answer the phone. Their agent's working. Our agent's working.
9:09Man, if you think Omar has any, any, any real power on this. Mr. Rooney? That's going from the top, bro.
9:20James Harrison:And just the guaranteed dollars. Top. That's top. Top of the top of the top. That's top. Joe, when it come down to it, if I am the owner of an organization. I know, for sure. And my GM or my head coach is fucking up. You think I'm going to let you continue to fuck up and tear down my organization? No. And have this right here going on? If I'm not on board for it, hell no. with a new head coach. No. No. When you want to look at a real problem in any organization, go to the Browns. Look at the Browns. How bad y 'all been bad? How bad we been bad? How long? Yeah. How many years y 'all been bad? And how many years you done had the same owner?
10:14Y 'all ain't been good since Art Modell left with the Baltimore. or Cleveland whatever they did and they fought to fight they fought to keep those ugly colors
10:26James Harrison:when Baker had when Baker had Kareem Hunt and Nick Chubb and then he didn't get paid right and Landry we was looking at nice and they let him go was that the same owner yes it was it was he did we got nice we was nice not too long ago won the playoff game won the playoff game before the Steelers we won the playoff game more recently than the Steelers Debo so stop You keep on doing that. I can't say the Browns been good. The Browns got good. And then we went now. We lost one. We lost Baker. And then we got Odell left and Landry and Nick Chubb. You know what I'm saying? Offense started turning down because that's when our offense was scoring points.
11:06James Harrison:Defense was balling. Offense was hooping. Okay. And what happened? Y 'all ended up - We lost in the second round. Lost the second round. Then things just fell apart. Okay. So why'd you let go of Baker?
11:20James Harrison:I don't we thought Deshaun was going to be a franchise we couldn't I was here for Baker 5-400 5-400 right so it could be it could be oh the coach didn't like him or the GM didn't like him at the end of the day I feel like we took the big swing now it was Jimmy Mr. Haslam was ready for like you know what Baker's a good quarterback but we need to franchise from what Deshaun was doing in Houston balling took him here for 230 GT and that's why we still we were covering but now Deshaun and that's from the top and that's from the top that's from the top and that's from the top bro that's what it come down to matter of fact we're going over here to Cleveland man so as your as your Browns get ready for their first home game yes Cleveland this Sunday against the Panthers Deshaun Watson says he doesn't want to be at war with the Browns man with the Browns fans brother listen oh I mean, yeah, I mean, the biggest thing, like, I don't never try to go at war with the fans.
12:22So then the biggest thing is just, you know, ready for support, ready to feel their energy, ready to get this big dub for the city of Cleveland and, you know, continue this great feeling that we have this week. So that's my motto is just keep pushing forward, finding ways to win on Sunday to, you know, take advantage of the opposing team and get a W. Yes. Joe. Yes. You think he can win the fans back? With a win against the Panthers?
12:49James Harrison:Look, it takes a lot to build up what the Browns are going to want. But it's going in the right direction, 1 ,000%. And all you can do is come to press conferences and address what you need to do. Like, address your performances and just be an adult. Understand, Deshaun, we're not in it for everybody. Like, you're not going to win everybody back over. We just understand. You know what I'm saying? It is what it is. Some people are just not going to be on it. But your job is to be a professional quarterback. We're making it. We have to understand every time I don't bring up the money because it is what it is.
13:26James Harrison:You're getting paid$45 million a year to be a franchise quarterback. So that's before everything. You over anybody should want to play well. You over anybody should expect yourself to play well. So when you do see things on tape and when you do, you got to be your hardest critic. And I think that's what some people don't like is when you come on and you seem like you're just so like, no, it's not my fault. It's not my fault. When you're a professional quarterback, you should always want that on you. You know that the onus is going to be on you. So when you - Listen, Joe, that's kind of hard for him to go out there and think it's not my fault.
14:00It's not my fault when they already on his neck.
14:03James Harrison:Listen, who gives a damn what they talking about? Like, after last game, the main thing is this, Debo. No, after last game, the thing people want is competent quarterback play. You've been here four years. This is your fifth year. You played 19 games. You're still a young quarterback, though, Joe. No, no, no. You only had 19 games in the last four years. I hear you, but no. On the grand scheme of things, no. So last game, that was a good game. You played well. You went out there, executed. Like we said, you didn't do bad. So when you play well and you get the ball out and you get the ball to right receivers and you don't turn it over and you don't take sacks, we're going to say good game, Deshaun.
14:47James Harrison:That's what we needed. Do we need 400 yards and five touchdowns? No, we're going to give you that was good if you can continue to play like that. But we see that so few and far between, Debo. We talk about four good games to eat. Hey, it's Deshaun T. Plummer from Foot Around and Find Out. Coming out of the draft, it's been a special time for us here at Foot Around. I want to thank everyone from the fans to the sponsors, especially Geico, not just for supporting AZ, but for showing up where it matters, like the business of Women's Sports Summit. That kind of thing really moves the needle. And now that AZ is starting a new life in Dallas, we don't know what next season is going to bring, but we know that we're all on the same team.
15:25And it's been amazing to feel the love and support. So keep showing up for our girl. Show up for each other. Thanks to Geico and our listeners.
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17:04James Harrison:Had in his four seasons at Cleveland. You have 16 games a year, but like you didn't play a lot. You weren't out there. He ain't played in all of them. Joe, man, he barely got a whole season over the last four years, Joe. That's still, when you have a franchise, that's still 45. He sat out a year before this one. That's not, what have you done for me lately? Only three games before that. When you talk about what have you done for me lately, You know what the NFL is. What have you done from me lately? And lately, he hasn't been playing too well. So when you go out there and you actually do play well, good.
17:39James Harrison:Let's go. But you should expect to want yourself to play that well. That's all. He does. You think he don't want to play well, Joe? No. I know. I know. Dude, he cannot win the Browns fans over with this win. It's just not going to happen, brother. No. Not with this win. It's not going to happen. If he want to win back these fans, bro, he's going to have to go out there and put in a winning performance. And I believe his performance last week is the kind of performance that they're going to want to see. You had the possibility of winning the game. And that's not even it, man. Y 'all fans are going to be so hard on this dude, man, that it ain't going to be just a winning performance.
18:22They're not going to let nothing slide. If he had went out there and did what Pennix did and threw an interception in the very first drive, man, the Boo Birds would have went crazy. And it would have been something totally different than what it was for Atlanta over there. He's going to have to go and put in a performance that is going to be a winning performance on top of that with no mistakes. That's the only way. And y 'all got to win. but for him to still have that fan base be like okay he's our guy he has to do all of that with no mistakes and then it be something that's totally related or not related to the offense that causes y 'all to not to not win and they gonna have to be done put up damn near 30 points or more in that process he is going to have a hard time if even possible to win y 'all fans back unless they end up going into the playoffs at least two, maybe three games deep.
19:26And his performance is what makes that happen. That's the only way I see him being able to win y 'all fans back.
19:34James Harrison:You know how it is, Debo. You know it takes a long time to build up trust. You know how it is. When you're a young dude, you got to continue to do the right things for a long time until you get a little bit of leash. and then it takes one, two plays to lose that trust. Do you know what I'm saying? Like to gain trust on somebody, anybody's like, oh no, hold, hold, hold. We got, let's reel that back in. You got to show me that you know how to do the right thing for a couple of more weeks till I can start giving you a little bit of rope. So like, it's just, you got to continue to play well at a high level.
20:05James Harrison:So I'm saying with the Browns fans, it's been, talk about getting credibility back. It's four years. Like instantly, they're not just going to off one game. Think that, oh yeah, boom. Everything's good. Everything that's ever happened is all in the past. No. It helps. Like, if you play well, continuing to play well is going to get you credibility and get that growing. But you don't really have too much base to stand on from playing as the quarterback for the Browns. And then be like, oh, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah. No, that's our guy. Continued good plays, continued. It's not going to be our guy, Joe.
20:37James Harrison:I know. He's not going to be our guy. He's never going to be our guy again. You said it yourself the other day. I said, if he go out there, he put in an all-pro performance, He is the reason that y 'all get to the AFC championship game, all that other stuff. You said he got to go get money somewhere else. He can't get it here. So what is he even fighting for? What is you even fighting for? Because you're a professional player. You're fighting because you definitely fight. Hey, man, fight to make yourself better, man. You don't need to worry about them fans, man. Whether they like you or not, man.
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21:09James Harrison:It's not about the fans. It's about you performing on the field. You should be your hardest critic. You should want to play better than anybody else expects you to play. Like, that's why you're in the league. That's why you was trying to, like, that's why you are where you are. Well, him going to war against the fans, that don't, that don't, that ain't, it don't matter, man. You can have whatever you want with them fans, man. They ain't going to like you no matter what you do. Joe ain't even going to bring you back if you have, if you are a pro. Number one, Joe ain't even going to bring you back.
21:46He said, you done got what you got. You got to go get money somewhere else. I'm happy for you. I want you to play. For sure. He's going to go get the bag. He's going to get no more money here. Huh?
21:54James Harrison:I'm just saying from... I don't know, Debo. You don't know. He's going to go get that money. For sure. I want to go... But like you said, somewhere else. We already got 230 from the Browns. We got to still... We got to figure something out. We need to not use our quarterback money on We need to use our cap space For different positions right now It's time for us to have a young quarterback With ballers around us Where we're not spending 45 to 60 million We only spending two or three And then when we know it's our franchise Then he can get a deal And then we can move how we got to We got to have that right now We need to be winning on a quarterback That's a franchise guy On a baby deal That's why.
22:41James Harrison:Who? Where? Where is he? Where's the franchise guy on the baby deal? It could be Shador Sanders that's on his little baby deal right now, and we're just getting the pieces if we still got time to get pieces around him. It could be a young bull playing in college football right now. But until I haven't seen Shador get his shot, and I think he can still do it when we get the players around him, and we can still draft in another little quarterback we see from college. If everything don't happen, we could trade up. We have two first-round picks. So I'm not against competition for Shador, but let me see if he can do it and we could probably bring in another one.
23:13James Harrison:He just lost the competition. That's why they said the competition was already skewed. Like you said, ownership makes decisions bigger than over what Tom Monk could do. Deshaun Watson was basically going to start the whole time. So that is what it was. Straight up. So he didn't steal the job. So this is what I want to know. What's that? Watson play his butt off. He wins, wins, wins, wins, wins. Y 'all get into the playoffs. Okay? Y 'all get a home playoff game winning. Home playoff game winning? Home playoff game winning. That's what I'm saying. You get another one. Uh-huh. Okay. Win it again?
23:51Maybe win it again.
23:52James Harrison:Don't say maybe, because if win it again. Win it again. To hell with it. Win it again, Joe. Win it again. Okay? Where we at now? Did we get a five-week in the first round? Win an ACC championship game. We're an ACC championship game. Ooh, Jesus. Jesus. Hold up. Watson balls his ass off. This man throw for 340 yards, four touchdowns. Y 'all score 40 points and y 'all lose 43 to 40. But the defense sold, special teams sold. Now what? I would hope and pray that I had to be in this situation to even think about what we would do. I will give me some time when we get to that situation let me let me feel the real feel feel it in your mind I don't know you gotta think it so be it it's something like that I don't know right now I need to be watching them throughout this I need to watch how it goes D-Bo I gotta watch how it goes man you need to watch you need to watch all these lies you be telling you know you gonna let him go I know you're going to let him go, Joe.
25:07James Harrison:You're going to have to because his number is at$87 million next year. If we don't release him by June 1st, it's$87 to the cap. Bam. And we can't do that. What if y 'all renegotiate? No. Can you renegotiate? We're not where we need to be right now with our team to be spending that quarterback money. So you're going to let that go?
25:32James Harrison:He's going to be— Listen, he's not going to be, he's going to go somewhere else and get paid a bag. Okay, Joe, look here, man. Let's jump into these super chats right now, brother. We have Covenant Life,$5. She said, wedding anniversary is Sunday, Debo. Did you say go to wheel call to pick up tickets? Let me prepare to be snapped on. I ain't snapping on you. I ain't snapping on you at all. You say wedding anniversary when? Sunday. Sunday. Happy early anniversary. Happy early anniversary. I tell you what. Hit me up. Hit me up. I might have something for you. Hey. Might have something for you coming to life.
26:20You know why? Because you mess with your boys real strong. Man, cover the life. You do. Happy anniversary. It's our anniversary. Hey. Hey. Hey. let's go we got another one right here brother covenant life she's back again nine twenty dollars she said i'm thinking josh allen at quarterback for the one o 'clock games with the with uh jamar chase and the seattle receiver at wide receiver ken of walker at running back seattle tight end and Chiefs defense. What do y 'all think of those picks? She talking about fantasy, huh? Mm-hmm.
27:09James Harrison:Well, she done put Jamar Chase up against the Steelers. You so disrespectful. She's very disrespectful. See, sometimes I... Your tickets just got took. Basically, she saying that Jamar Chase... Now you just got snapped on. She'll be there cheering... Oh, she won't be cheering for them. She'll be cheering for them. That's why I said maybe. I knew you was going to say something else in this chat that would make me change my mind. I ain't going to lie to them. Good picks, though. Copy that. All ballers. But we just got to watch where Jamar Chase playing at. He telling them they ain't going to take us up top.
27:37James Harrison:That's what we saying, cover. What are we talking about? You don't need that. Oh, my goodness. That'd be a bad thing. Oh, Debo, but that's what I'm saying, though. Jamar Chase, did you see the celebration? Oh, man, hold up. I think we got it. Show me that. See? because I ain't going to lie to you, Debo. I was watching the game. I think we got his thing about the fines or whatever. Oh, bro. Yeah. What do you guys do as players? Because it's clearly something that seems like it's out of your hands, but you still want to have fun. So, like, how are you balancing that? I think this is where the superstars have to get in with the NFLPA and fight for our money.
28:27Because if he's getting fined for doing a drinking gesture, a juice gesture, then, I mean, I'm getting fined for an elbow and doing a first down thing. I mean, I can't really do much about it. I mean, we can complain. I don't even think we can tweet about it because we get fined for tweeting about it. So, like, it's really like players got to keep their mouth shut and deal with it.
28:51James Harrison:Hey, Joe, what do you think? Hey, Debo, I'm going to tell you this. I was watching the game in real time Jamar Chase and Tee Higgins are hilarious I can hear what he's saying so you the NFL these dudes bro they are like when CD Lamb do you remember before 2020 in 2024 season when they kept getting their first downs and he would do the little wipe his nose joint and point to the first down NFL they ended up being like they're watching stuff they're hip these players are cool bro Higgins cool they just hip they're watching rap they know what's going on My man, T. Higgins and Jamar Chase, I'm telling you, they had a plan.
29:30James Harrison:But, like, let him say people's elbow. If you're doing people's elbow, act like you're taking the sleeve off like The Rock would do it. Soon as I saw the play happen, Debo, he's dropping on their head like a wide receiver. When he catch that joint instantly, I'm like this. He go. I'm like, oh, my goodness. I know exactly what he's doing. Those are receivers I'm talking about. I'm dropping on your head. That's what it means. So my son, Jet, is looking at it like, I'm like, son, don't worry. I said, he put the elephant trunk on him, son. He dropped the elephant trunk on his head. That's why I'm telling my son, Jet, because he's like, dad, what is Chase doing?
30:06James Harrison:I'm like, no, he dropped the trunk on him. He's like, oh yeah, that's a bag. That's right on your heady. That's right on your heady, son. So my son starts cracking up. So I'm looking at it like, end of the day, kids are hip, I feel you, Jamar Chase, him and Tee Higgins, they're ballers. So this game, I'm watching, and they keep on mossing people, getting first downs and they just standing. Boom. So I'm like, if you want to say it's the elephant trunk, okay, all that. But I, from a DB, back in the day, when somebody would do it, they like, oh, I dropped on his head. I'm like, oh my gosh, they're doing that in the league.
30:40James Harrison:So maybe nobody knows, maybe somebody knows, but just, okay, we got it. Like the NFL is very trying to keep, they let us now, we could do certain dances. We could do certain things. You can do choreographed stuff. but it's like if people are hip to what you're doing some stuff is like just okay guys kids are watching you might not even think they're watching I'm happening in real time I'm like oh he just did this I was like oh he dropped it on his head and my son was like but dad what did he do I'm like it's an elephant trunk you know what I'm saying like me I'm like oh man if you know you know he said he hit the people's elbow I'm like if you're doing that take it off like this elbow elbow then you take it off he said like this I said you did the elephant.
31:23James Harrison:You did the drum. That's wild. Listen, bro. Wild, Debo. Yeah, they went an area where they were like, yo, you can't do nothing. Then you can do something. Then you can do anything. And now they're actually throwing it down. You can do, look, the pumps. You can have me pumps. Two pumps or one pump? Yeah, yeah. Hey, listen, you can't pump more than one. No. One pump. That's it. He ain't giving you nothing but one pump. One pump. Boom. They get one. They say, they wait. They be looking at you. That's what I'm saying. You're about to do another one. Yep. They got you. They're letting us try to be good with it, but certainly we got, come on, we could do little stuff, but it's just, dude, you're funny.
32:02So Keezo used to do the pull out the thing and just shoot the bow. It was like, he pulled out a weapon. They changed it to where he was like, he done pulled out a weapon. I'm like, wow.
32:13James Harrison:No, I know. It's making it tough. I'm like, who go and do a bow drive by? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, for sure. Bo and arrow drive by. Is he out the whip? Is he on the horse? Out the whip? On the horse? Like, what's going on, bruh? Uh-uh. Like, anyway, man. I'm going to jump back into these chats, brother. We got Heco Santé,$2. He said, give us your fantasy lineup for week three. I can't give you the fantasy lineup for week three. Joe. You? Fantasy lineup for week three. All right. Hold on. Let me pull up my team real quick. What's your team? Joe, if you got somebody on there, brother, that's going to be something.
32:55All right.
32:56James Harrison:This week. Pop off. See, no, I got Puka, but he hurt right now. Puka.
33:07All right.
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35:23James Harrison:Got J-Dub. We got Concepcion. Okay. And then we got Johnson, tight end from New Orleans, as the tight end. Okay. Yeah. Okay. We got Nico Bellick. Five dollars. He said, why the organization so stingy? I have no clue. It's not stingy. I guess they're just stuck in old ways. Yeah. I think that's more of a thing than anything else. I don't know. I don't know, bro. Covenant Light, she back, fired out. She said, Joe, I'm about to say something. Please do not let this go to your head, but the Browns may have it better. Finish. finish Deebo don't yeah act like you can't read now what she say Browns may have a better season than the Steelers Coveted said it them tickets gone Coveted I'm saying she's coming back for blood them tickets gone I never said that I mean I know I know we over here making sure them tickets gone each week with us I said we probably gonna go you know what I'm saying nine and eight You know what I'm saying?
36:42James Harrison:So we going to see. Dang, covered it. Appreciate you covered it. And not appreciated like talking bad about the Steelers, but just, you know what I'm saying? Showing love to my Browns. That's all. Yep. What's the next one, D-Bow? How do I kick her out of the chat? No, don't kick covered it out of the chat. Kick her out of the chat. They right there covered it. We got Nick Breeding,$9 ,228,$10. He said, I'm a UPS driver in Arizona. Is that AZ? I'm a UPS driver in AZ. Used to deliver to the Danny Center. And I just missed you walking in one day. I was bummed. I could say what's up. I asked the owner if I was bummed.
37:34I guess I couldn't say what's up. I asked the owner if I could work out here, and he said yes. If I worked out there, sorry. And he said yes. Okay.
37:46James Harrison:Missed you by a little bit, D-Bow. Wanted to say what's good. Danny Center, that was way back. That was, well, it ain't that old no more. We ended up moving, or he ended up moving, I should say, about four years ago now. But that's where we used to work out at. that was in Scottsdale, Arizona. It's now in Phoenix, though. Back again,$9. The offense needs Jesus this week. We need to run the ball more. O-line looking like 50. Y 'all, man, y 'all gonna stop there. Y 'all gonna stop with this. Come on, man. Can't lose to the bungles. Hopefully, Joey Porter Jr. plays. Don't count on it. We need to pay him already.
38:31Facts. that is facts we do need to pay him already like why we haven't is is is um
38:39James Harrison:is is beyond me o-line plans for show wait victim weight come on now no o-line need to play better they need to get out of the victim weight victim weight the o-line victim weight bro come on no that's that's crazy he said that that's crazy word joe you're victim weight you playing o-line No, sir. They might get hit four yards in the backfield. Covenant Life back again. $10. Appreciate you, Covenant Life. I look at it. About to be in the stadium on Sunday. I can hear it already. All the boos are about to... Hey, what is Covenant Life? All the boos... Covenant Life. It's only week three. but she got like she acting all the boos are about to happen on Sunday at one I love my Steelers but it is what it is love the cap shirt duo Debo appreciate you thank you you know what I'm saying I'm just trying to do what I can do hey listen company coming for blood for the Steelers man she ain't feeling some type of weight listen this is real disyspectful it's getting real disyspectful bro listen I'm gonna tell you right now I ain't gonna lie I'm nervous I'm nervous if we don't get some offense going, if our defense don't pitch a shutout, like...
40:04Bro, we in trouble. Tell you this.
40:07James Harrison:Yeah. We in trouble. Debo, defense better come to play and the offensive line. Did you see my man, did you see my man Big Dexy last week throwing the center out the way? His mic'd up was a little crazy. Bro, you know them boys is like number one of sex and all that, man. Oh, yeah. Sexy Dexy told that man, he said, it is your pleasure to be on this field with me. It is your pleasure. And threw him out the way. I said, okay. Echo Santay back$2. Bengals are smelling blood. Uh-oh. In Three Rivers water.
40:52If it's blood, it's going to be they blood when we get off they tiger tails
40:55James Harrison:and throw their ass in there. We ain't going outside. We ain't going outside. Bro, y 'all better. What's somebody at, man? Jump in the chat. Talking crazy. I want to see some... Man. I want to see somebody spitting blood, yo. I want to see somebody's teeth on me. Oh, Lord. Like they upset me, yo. This man want to see flags. I ain't talking about no flags. If you don't want to see blood, then that's probably going to be a flag. We just going to need to see people, you know what I'm saying? hit extremely hard in the chest where they hit. It looked like they got hit in the head because they got hit so hard.
41:38I need three bodies. That's what I need. Give me three bodies. I need three people taking Nightquale. that's what i need all right you heard do something make me feel good oh that's what i need they finding out here dbo you gonna pay the fine listen sometimes you gotta get fine to get some
42:07James Harrison:respect back okay yep you done paid your amount of fines you did that for your respect you ain't lying i'm talking to the wrong i did that for the whole organization you did it for the whole city I put the city on my back you did coach man come to life she back again Debo we talking money I care less about Chase I care about making bands and lots of Joe would be throwing deep passes with Jesus cousin throwing while Jesus cousin Damn laterals. Damn laterals. Hey, we can't win like that. McCarthy said he going to switch it up. McCarthy said he going to switch it up. We can't be dinking dunking. He said that after week two.
42:59I'm going to listen to him. He said, he back$2. He said, Debo can't renege on them tickets. I ain't renege. I said, hit me up. I might have something. Can't renege on a mic. I might decide to go and blow something up. I might decide to go and flex. I might decide and go and work out. So if I do go, I don't go. It ain't against what I said I was going to do. It's a might. You might piss me off and I might block him too. Yep. Get him over that asshole. If they on here again, oh, I thought it was him again. Listen. We got, what's that, Brenda Crow? $3403,$2. When y 'all gonna go on Nightcap? Go Browns.
43:46Go Browns. That's why we ain't going on Nightcap, because you want us to go, and you said go Browns. You said go Steelers, we would have went. I don't know. I don't know either. Go make it happen, because you got a bank. I don't want to go over there right now. I don't, because there's a bangle over there, and there's a Raven over there. Let me, I don't know. Maybe not this week. Maybe next year. After we do our thing. Maybe next year. We got to go after. We might have to make till next year. We got to wait. We got to see what happens this week. I don't want to just show up unannounced. It's bad business.
44:23It's bad manners. Yeah, etiquette. All that stuff. We don't want to do that. None of that stuff needs to be done. Especially not right now. It's not a really good time in this world. There's things going on in the world and there's violence. Chaos everywhere. I just don't want you know. I don't know. Anyway, coming to life's back again. Debo, stop. I'm choking over here. Please don't take those glasses off and look at me that way. Yep.
44:49James Harrison:Is this what you get? I got scared. Looked around to make sure you weren't behind me. Oh, my goodness. Yep. We got, what is that? Del. yo you know feno luna 4-6-4-6 ten dollars appreciate you thank you james and joe i'm a huge fan all the way from alaska go still here we go yes what part of alaska you was probably around there dbo yeah around your way i was over there and uh we landed in kitchen can we landed kitchen can then we took an airboat to thorn bay and we stayed in thorn Dude, we got to do Alaska. I'm trying to tell you. We got to do Alaska. I know. What's the other one? What's the thing called?
45:41Maldives. Maldives. We got to do Alaska. We got to do the Maldives. Yeah, I'm trying to tell you. Oh, Mexico. Don't forget. Mexico. I got you. Mexico City. I got you, coach. That might be this year, Joe. That might be this year. Look here. We'll see. We got Nick Nicko Bellic again. Five dollars. Is it Nico or is it Nico? Nico Bellic. He says, hey, my son turned one Wednesday. How much for an autograph from both of y 'all when I'm at work? We watch y 'all together. What you doing watching us at work? What you doing at work watching this. Catching the show, man. How you working if you're watching the show?
46:33Multitasking.
46:34James Harrison:He got more than one screen. Multitasking. He got more than one screen. That man got talent. He got more than one screen. He got talent. Your son turns one Wednesday. Happy birthday. Happy early birthday. Happy early birthday. He said he turns Wednesday. So happy early birthday. He won. He ain't watching this. He turning one. He listening to noise. He knows the swole man. He's looking at Debo. He's like, who's the one? I'll tell you what. Man. You almost had me on that one. Yeah. He almost had me on that one, Joe. We got one more, man. Heckle Santa, he back. He's$2. Appreciate it. He said, still love Debo and Joe.
47:23James Harrison:Thank you, Santa. I'll rock with you, but you be out here line sometimes. Listen, we want to thank y 'all, man, for joining us in this episode of D1. Look here. Game Sunday. Yes. Steelers. We go beat the Bengals. Browns. They are going to lose to the Panthers. And hold up. We just got one more came in. Oh, he in Anchorage. we gonna see Delfino Luna 4-6-4-6-5-dolls appreciate you he said he's in Anchorage Alaska a lot of Stiller fans up here y 'all come up it would be lit need to make your way need to make my way to the burn yes you do yes sir we got a lot of stuff that we gotta do man we got a lot of stuff we gotta do we gotta get to we gotta a lot of love out there a lot of fans all I'm telling you is Stiller Nation everywhere Stiller Nation everywhere Stiller Nation y 'all better come we after this game, Debo, this is a big one.
48:28Yes, this right here, we gotta have this, bro.
48:30James Harrison:We gotta have this. And then this is for the Browns, you know what I'm saying? Gotta see what we really talking about. What Watson really talking about. We get this, then go pop y 'all bums. We good. Oh, we see y 'all on Thursday night. See everybody Thursday night. Who is y 'all? You keep telling. Oh, hold up. We got another one. We got coming to light. She back. She said, can I still hit you up? because the Browns still suck, and I'm telling it on the mound. Yeah, hit me up. You good. You came back. Yeah. Browns still. There we go. Hit me up. Still hit me up. Yeah, after this week, after this week, after this week, after this week, then we going to be able to – then that's when we – that's when it might just, you know, that's when I have to talk about – Hold up.
49:10We got another one. Bring the crow. Hold up, man. We trying to get up out of it. Joe. Huh? What played into you leaving Cleveland, and why did you choose Pittsburgh? You want to know why I kept telling you?
49:22James Harrison:Because I got released from Cleveland because they tried to get me to take a pay cut. And I wanted to go play with A.B., Big Ben, Laketon Abel, and Coach Thomas. I was tired of going to get – I'm like, they scoring some points over there. Antonio Brown's going up top on people. Let me go over here and see what that's – let me see what they talking about. What that be like? Let me see what that be like. Let me see what it be like. That offense over there just, next thing I know, I'm on the sideline, and they coming over here like, A.B., watch this. I'm like, what you about to go do? Catch somebody on top.
49:54James Harrison:Catch the ball on the side of my head. That's what I'm about to go do. I'm like this, oh, yes. I would love to see that. So that's why I went over there with the boys over there scoring points and doing crazy things. He kicked my man upside the head with the Browns punt in return. I'm like, what are you doing? Front flipped and landed on his feet against us. I say, oh, yeah, I got to see some of this. You got to see some of this on the right side of it, though. Yep. Look here, man. We want to thank you guys for joining us on this episode of D-Boy and Joe. Please make sure you like, subscribe, and download where you get your show.
50:23Steelers, Browns, Sunday. Get it going, Joe.
50:26James Harrison:Let's go, man. We're going to be here same time, same place on Monday. Let's get it. We out.
50:41Hey, it's Ashanti Plummer from Foot Around and Find Out. Coming out of the draft, it's been a special time for us here at Futter Round. I want to thank everyone from the fans to the sponsors, especially Geico. Not just for supporting AZ, but for showing up where it matters. Like the business of Women's Sports Summit. That kind of thing really moves the needle. And now that AZ is starting a new life in Dallas, we don't know what next season is going to bring. But we know that we're all on the same team. And it's been amazing to feel the love and support. So keep showing up for our girl. Show up for each other.
51:14Thanks to Geico and our listeners.
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