Deebo & Joe- Part 2: Johnny Manziel MMA Debut, Caleb Williams Development, Knicks Courtside Tickets Cost

25 May 2026 · 44 min · 21 chapters

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In short

Sports talk and betting-style reactions: Caleb Williams’ quarterback development (Bears QB coach JT Barrett’s “do less” message), Johnny Manziel’s UFC/MMA debut vs. Bob Manery, and Knicks courtside ticket prices for the NBA Finals.

Guests/backgrounds

Deebo Samuel (former NFL wide receiver; co-host) and Joe (co-host; former NFL player/football commentator). They also reference JT Barrett (Bears QB coach), Johnny Manziel (former NFL QB), and fighters Bob Manery, Michael Beasley, and Ray J (as discussed in UFC-related clips).

Key claims

Caleb Williams should simplify—make quick reads/checkdowns instead of extending plays into “razzle-dazzle,” reducing interceptions and turnovers. Manziel’s MMA debut showed effective striking and ground-and-pound; he won via first-round stoppage and said one fight was enough. Courtside Knicks tickets are absurdly overpriced—two tickets listed around $595,000—so “who’s buying that?” is the main question.

Notable examples

Caleb’s completion rate cited as ~58% with 7 interceptions; pro football focus “worthy turnover plays” dropped. Manziel vs. Bob Manery at UFC Apex in Las Vegas (first-round stoppage; Manery’s face/forehead described as badly cut). Knicks courtside ticket price comparisons to past Finals and other arenas.

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Chapters

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Caleb Williams Coaching Insights

3:44 to 6:43

Discussion on Caleb Williams and coaching strategies for quarterbacks.

“The Bears quarterback coach, JT Barrett, wants Caleb Williams to do less.”

Quarterback Development and Strategy

6:43 to 13:11

Exploration of quarterback roles, skills, and necessary improvements.

“So I think it's a good thing that he's just coaching him up, still saying that he has a lot to grow from, but he's not saying do less.”

Engaging Ferrari Fans in the Digital Age

14:59 to 15:32

Discover how Ferrari engages its superfans using digital technology.

“Ferrari fans and superfans want to be part of something, want to belong to something.”

Johnny Manziel's MMA Debut

17:56 to 18:24

Discussing Johnny Manziel's successful MMA debut against Bob Minery.

“Bring the warmth, character, and enduring style of these timeless products into your kitchens and bathrooms.”

Analysis of the Fight

18:24 to 19:36

Analyzing Johnny Manziel's fighting techniques and performance.

“Great coaches, they say this because they just, they see, you're never perfect.”

Johnny Manziel's Thoughts Post-Fight

19:36 to 20:16

Manziel reflects on his fight experience and future plans.

“And yeah, in the first round stoppage victory, Saturday night at the UFC Apex Center in Las Vegas.”

Michael Beasley Fight Discussion

20:16 to 22:00

Discussing the fight between Michael Beasley and its implications.

“I thought Johnny was a little more of a naturally leaner person.”

Humor in Fighting Events

22:00 to 23:05

Exploring the humorous aspects of recent fight events and reactions.

“Yes, I did see the Michael Beasley fight.”

Fighting Dynamics and Strategies

23:05 to 24:20

Understanding the dynamics and strategies in spontaneous fights.

“Listen, bro, I'm still trying to figure it out.”

Ray J's Fight Experience

24:20 to 26:08

Analyzing Ray J's performance and the chaos in his fight.

“I don't want to say this to get nobody in trouble, but damn, really, bro?”
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Rarity of High-Value NBA Tickets

26:08 to 28:00

Discussion on the extraordinary prices of NBA courtside tickets.

“Quartz side tickets listed at 595 ,000 for the NBA Finals.”

Cavs Courtside Ticket Prices

28:00 to 29:10

Exploring the varying prices of courtside tickets for NBA games.

“And nobody paying$10 ,000 to go out there and watch them get their pay.”

Cavs vs. Knicks: Ticket Prices Discussion

33:41 to 36:29

Debating how much one would pay for a Cavs vs. Knicks game.

“The$595 ,000, Debo, I can't understand it.”

Joe Burrow's Future with the Bengals

36:30 to 38:48

Discussing Joe Burrow's potential future with the Bengals.

“y 'all getting what 12 12 No, it's 8 to 10.”

Manziel's Special Forces Challenge

38:49 to 42:00

Talking about Manziel's participation in a special forces training program.

“But if Joe Burrow starts to really act like he wants to go and starts being like, look, y 'all ain't protected.”

Considering Special Forces Training

42:00 to 43:50

The hosts discuss their thoughts on participating in special forces training and the challenges involved.

“She said, seeing other football players test themselves on special forces, would either of you ever consider doing that?”

Debating Physical Limits and Age

43:50 to 45:20

The conversation shifts to the physical challenges of training and the impacts of age on performance.

“Dude, but the, I'm talking about the like the refueler.”

Record-breaking Stunts and Challenges

49:28 to 51:08

Discussion about the challenges of attempting to break records and the physical demands involved.

“Bring the warmth, character, and enduring style of these timeless products into your kitchens and bathrooms.”

Acts of Kindness and Paying it Forward

51:08 to 53:33

The hosts share personal stories about their efforts to bless strangers and pay for others’ meals.

“I am not adjusting to somebody else's adjustments because my body don't operate that way no more.”

Casual Conversations About Spending

53:33 to 56:00

A lighthearted discussion on spending habits, wealth, and food expenses.

“And I got to make sure, you know, I'm at a, you know, like I can't be doing that at, you know, restaurants you go to.”

Cavs Game Plans and Fan Loyalty

56:00 to 59:32

The hosts discuss their plans for an upcoming Cavs game and their loyalty as fans.

“I know you got to you got to be somewhere tonight.”
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3:44James Harrison:The Chicago Bears, baby. The Bears quarterback coach, JT Barrett, wants Caleb Williams to do less. Take what the defense is giving him. Barrett says Caleb could save energy by simply foregoing some of the wilder plays in favor of hitting open pass catchers underneath. He said late in some of the games, he was making some heroic plays, but it wasn't necessary if we execute in the first quarter and second quarter. We might be up two touchdowns by the time we get to the fourth quarter. We'd be effective and take what the defense has given us. you don't necessarily have to put on a cape and make those crazy plays because you're already, because you already were killing them in the first, already were killing them in the first three quarters.

4:49James Harrison:Joe. Yes. Why do you think the quarterback coach on Caleb, you think it's a good thing, bad thing? How do you look at this? I look at it as a good thing. It's not bad that he's speaking on Caleb like this. I think it's high praise. you know being able to do the superman throw being able to get out of pocket being able to have that in your bag is amazing you know i'm saying being able to have a bag of tricks people all the other quarterbacks a lot of ones can't throw on the run can't move the way that he does he's just saying you can make it so much easier on yourself to where you can you don't have to get into your duffel having that is amazing but sometimes a simple pass being able to just read it get it out of your hands a little bit quicker is you don't have to pull out the cape knowing He's not saying knowing that you have it, that's great, but sometimes you're pulling it out too early.

5:38James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? Where there's simple plays where you could just make this check down, make this throw. There's other windows, and then you're extending the play when it doesn't need to be extended. You're making razzle-dazzle when it doesn't need to be razzle-dazzle. When we have certain plays, when it's executed, there's timing on some of these stuff. So just, boom, plays open right there, hit it, and then we can go to the next one. instead of, ah, hold on, boom. Now you're just making, you're creating something else, which is great. You got that in your bag, but you can make it so much easier on yourself to where, boom, the first one's not there, hit the second one.

6:08James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? So he's just saying, you could be already up two touchdowns to where we didn't have to have you doing all of these wild stuff. So where you're simply thinking, you know what I'm saying? You're making the plays where it needs to be made. And now we're up 21 points to where now you're having to pull something out of your hat and rabbit out of hat in the fourth quarter and make crazy plays to bring us back in the game. When we're up 21 now, we're handing the ball off. We're running out clock. Yep. Simply just chilling to where we're relaxing and there's nothing that we have to worry about.

6:35James Harrison:So it's not – he's not knocking that. He's like, whoa, you're amazing, but you can make the game so much simpler for yourself. So I think it's a good thing that he's just coaching him up, still saying that he has a lot to grow from, but he's not saying do less. You don't have to do as much, but I love that you can do that, but you don't have to put yourself in that position as much. Yeah, he's, you know, I think he's being a good coach. He's trying to improve his player, you know, year in and year out so that he's not, you know, regressing and letting you know, yo, this is where you need to improve.

7:09James Harrison:Like, so you need to go and, you know, process things faster so that you can see those passing windows, so that you can get them faster, so that you can recognize, you know, the defense that you're looking at and get the ball where it should be. You know, his completion rate was, what, like 58 %? That's not really high. He had seven interceptions, but when you look at it, it should have been more than that. I think we dropped two of them in the game we played against them. And when you look at the pro football focus, they're saying he had 19 worthy turnover plays where basically they dropped 12 that should have been turned over.

7:44James Harrison:So it should have been 19 turnovers. And that's, again, another part of him taking unnecessary risks and not taking what he said, like the defense giving him. He's not taking what the defense is giving him. He's going and he's not processing the thing fast enough to get it out to where he could have got it into, you know, somebody's hands fast enough. And I think the worst thing that happens is, especially in coaching, is that you get a player that's good or that's excellent. And then the coach thinks, oh, I don't got to coach him anymore. Yeah, I don't you know, I don't have to do anything to and to and to improve them.

8:18James Harrison:You know, they're they're where they're at. It's nothing else that I could do, you know, coaching wise. And that's wrong, especially when you go for a quarterback. The big thing with a quarterback is they have to know everything on the offensive side. So the only way to increase them in their ability to do things is increasing their knowledge and processes of what it is that they're looking at so that they can get the ball out quicker. Like quarterback, he has to know what everybody is doing on the field. So in that process, at least a good one, you know, in that process, he has to know that. Now, when you're on the defensive side, you know, I can increase my skill level easily just by knowing what I'm doing first and foremost.

8:57James Harrison:Now, after that, I need to know what the people around me are doing. Yes. So that's going to increase my knowledge of what he's doing, what he's doing. Now, if I go into this defense as a quarterback would in the offense and now everybody on that defense knows what's going on. And like when you look at our defense from 2002, 2004, from 2004 to about 2012, you had a group of guys that played with each other five, six, seven, eight years. And they had the knowledge of what everybody was doing. They were down pat for what they were doing. And then they had a knowledge and understanding of what everybody else around them was doing so that they could help their partner.

9:41James Harrison:So when it came down to it and, you know, we got into a frame of where, you know, you were having different guys switching in and out and then you were having younger guys coming in. Like you got a younger guy coming in. They don't have a complete concept of Dick LeBow's defense. That's hard to get to when you're not 100 percent sure on just your assignment and you're being put in there. That's going to drastically drop your defensive production. and that's what we were dealing with you know at a point where you know they finally didn't uh re-sign coach Lebeau it's like he was he was having to start younger players that didn't have a full concept and grasp of the defense and then it was things that were having to be changed so they didn't have to know as much of the defense and when you do that and you force things like that you take away other things like we had said before so the big the big thing is like making sure you're improving your player every year like with coach butts like okay i knew what i was doing now what i need to do i need to know what my corner doing i need to know what my line is doing i need my safety doing i need to know what my inside linebacker doing until i could get to the point to where i know at least what this half of the defense is doing and once i got to that then i would start going over a little further because when it come down to it it's parts of the job where i would be seen like i'm seeing on two for the slot i'm on the slot dude and i know that if I let him inside, I'm in trouble.

11:01James Harrison:I cannot let him inside because he's going to be running free because I know the guys here, they're going to be gone. Yeah. The last thing I can do is let him inside. I don't care if he beats me outside. There's less room there. I got sideline to help me, but I damn sure can't let him in. A thousand percent. We're speaking on learning your jobs. You know what I'm saying? Making sure that you know the nuances. And when I talk about the quarterback position, Debo, is the hardest position to play. I think it's because it's above the neck. It's mental. Like, they have to know, when you say in a coach on the field, when you were a D, like you said, you learn seam.

11:37James Harrison:I'm a corner at first. I'm learning man to man, cover two, cover three. I'm trying to learn to play. I got to know my job. Then when I start knowing what I got to do, I know what my safety got to do, but then I learn what the D lines got to do. I know where my running angles are. Like, I got outside. So you just start to learn everything. Then I start learning where the linebackers are. And you start learning every single coverage where everybody's doing. And that takes a little time, but then that's when you start to really know what's going on around you and where your help's coming from and who you can help, but you're still maintaining your job.

12:05James Harrison:Quarterback, you got to know the running back's jobs, every single part of his job, everything, every single receiver, the tight ends, the linemen, the checks when people are moving. Then when you're getting good at quarterback, you know every defense that you're going against. You know who you're watching when they motion. So you're playing a chess game with the other team. When you're young, you're just out there playing football. You're just out there like, okay, I got this man. Boom. You don't understand the grand scheme of the coaches are looking from the outside and down, setting up this play to run this play.

12:37James Harrison:When you're a good quarterback, you're setting up the defense for plays, for another play that you already know that you're going to run. So quarterbacks are also coaches. So the more that you know, the more that these receivers know what this running back's doing, what my lineman's doing, what everybody's doing, that's how your team gets better. So with Caleb, he has all the natural ability. The younger and the great players, you want to get coached. Your coaches are helping you get better. They're not going to be the ones playing, but they're helping you break down these defenses so you know when this safety drops, what I'm looking at, where my hots are, where I want to go.

13:11James Harrison:You're just in control. So the more with him coaching like this, I'm trying to make it easy for you, Caleb. I'm so glad that you can get out of stuff, escape, make these throws unbelievable. But when you know what's going on, when you start looking people off, You're literally chilling with eyes, moving people, and then throwing over here because you know where you need to go. You didn't have to make a step. You just literally, boom, throw a shoulder over there. You know how they're moving, and now you got a whole shot to the right. So just coaches being able to put their players in great positions, he's great.

13:40James Harrison:He can make that throw in his sleep, but he might just be doing too much, looking around on and off. No, Caleb, you need a little shoulder, and now you can hit that in the window. You got the arm. You got the thing. You just need to get on time, knowing where these people are going to be at. So good coaching and great players want to get coached. He doesn't see this as a bad thing. He's like, my coach, I'm that man. Amazon Health AI presents Painful Thoughts. I can't stop scratching my downtown. Yeah, but I'm not itching to go downtown and tell a receptionist I'm here to talk about my downtown.

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18:09James Harrison:And he just wants me to be able to do it even more chill. You know what I'm saying? So when I do got to do the other stuff, I can do that. But I'm just relaxed. I'm poised. Not getting hit. I'm in total control. I know where everybody's at. I know what all the defense is doing. So this is just learning. Great coaches, they say this because they just, they see, you're never perfect. Nobody's never perfect. And a coach is always going to be able to coach you up. And great players are always going to want to get coached because you know what you did wrong. It looks good. Yeah, I made these plays.

18:42James Harrison:But like this one, I got hit on my, my hands weren't on the right spot. You know what I'm saying? Like my eyes were in the wrong spot. Well, same thing, you know, like you get the quarters and you get quads away from you. like why am I even dropping anywhere over here I need to be dropping something coming back right now yes I gotta help like yo hey I'm gonna let me out here covering grass let one go let one I'm communicating that so they ain't even wasting their time with it yes some guys like no I just I'm here I'm waiting on I'm waiting on the two to come no dude no talk over here you got to talk you got to get over here because it's coming now when they get there you got to be there waiting on it.

19:17James Harrison:Yep. For sure, for sure, bro. Listen, man. Uh-huh. He dominated in his MMA debut. He said he won't fight again, dude. He said he won't fight again. Johnny Lee. Yeah, Johnny Manziel, baby. He said uh... Bro. He was kicking. That's who it is. He beat up Bob Minery. Yeah, your boy. And yeah, in the first round stoppage victory, Saturday night at the UFC Apex Center in Las Vegas. They fought in Vegas, bro. Yeah. Manziel showed off some skills as a fight. Listen, bro. Did you see it? He was kicking the dog shit out of him, man. Did you see it? Yes. Yes. Okay, I saw it. My man, I called him. It was hot too many.

20:05James Harrison:He came out there with them hot feet. That boy was using them feet first. I don't think Bob was expecting him to use his feet. Did you see how he came out immediately and Bob went to like jumping like he was running back scared, bruh? Oh, yeah, man. I ain't gonna lie, bro. I thought Johnny was a little more of a naturally leaner person. What you mean? He look like he put on a little bit of weight, man. You know what I'm saying? My dog been retired for a minute. You know what I'm saying? Johnny be on the bruise. He be chilling. Johnny not too. He don't be in the weight room like that. Rob Markman, Jr.: Hey, yeah, he said afterwards that was good enough.

20:47James Harrison:He said one time was good enough, bro. Rob Markman, Jr.: Yes, because my man was out there talking that trash, and I didn't think he was a professional fighter either. Johnny, no, you're not getting in there versus no pros, versus nobody else. He's like, who you? Rob Markman, Jr.: Bob, you think you... Now, I'll whoop you, Bob. Oh, you? Oh, I'll whoop you, Bob. Come on, right now. Rob Markman, Jr.: Listen, easy. Rob Markman, Jr.: He went in there, kicked him up, you know what I'm saying? Gave him a little Goldberg tackle, then got on top of my man, started hitting him with the drummer boy, the ground and pound.

21:13James Harrison:Hey, listen. He got tired on the ground and pound up. Bro, both of them was poop. Hey, he was, hey, he was, I was tight. He started. I'm like, I'm going to gas out. Go ahead, Johnny. Yeah. Finish him. Bop, bop, bop. He's like, he about to gas out. Yeah. And then look, your man Bob. I think if they had to stop it, he might have gassed out. After he hit your man Bob, I'm like, what? What do you mean? What do you mean? I'm like, Bob, he was on top of you, the drummer and boy, your head. You had to stop it. Bro. His face was... Did you see him after where his whole forehead was just lit? Brother, yes.

21:47James Harrison:It looked like he had a little motorcycle accident. Like he hit the concrete. Bruh. His face was a little scratched up. Bruh, did you see the... Go ahead. Please tell me you're going to say which one I'm talking about. The Stevenson and Beasley fight? Okay. Yes, I did see the Michael Beasley fight. I ain't going to lie. The first couple seconds when Beasley was throwing the hands, I was like, oh, he might... Beasley wanted to stay on feet. I was like, he might get in that work. Yes. It's the UFC element of it, of you will get choked. It's not just boxing. You will get kicked in the head. You can get kneed.

22:27James Harrison:And when somebody gets you in the near naked, whatever the sleeper hole choke is. And listen, he ain't get him in a real naked choke, man. He charged him. He got him down, bro. Bro, dude, did you see his face when he was trying to hold on to that boy's head under there? Because he knew as soon as he got out from under that, man, he knew it was over. He knew it was over. Deebo, see, that's what I'm saying. Not me. I'm not getting out there. I'm not getting in the headlock. Bro. I'm not getting in the headlock. No, sir, I'm too old for that, man. My dog's out there getting it in. But did you see Ray J?

23:04James Harrison:Bro. Deebo. Bro. Debo. Listen, bro, I'm still trying to figure it out. Listen, I saw him hitting with the right, right? But he hit him down here, right here, and he got a knot on his forehead. How you get hit in the face underneath your chin to get a knot on your forehead, bro? Debo, you tell me this right now. You tell me this right now, Debo. Why when he got hit, I thought my TV started lagging because he just He froze. I said, oh. And then he got the grab in the jaw. I said, oh my God. He stunned. He stunned. My TV froze. That shit was like, wow. He said, oh. I said, oh my goodness. Is he going to fall?

23:54James Harrison:Then he started falling forward and grabbing him. He said, oh, the one wish. The one wish. My man, the funniest. It's so hard, bro. Superhot hit him so hard. It didn't even register for a couple seconds. It didn't register. He didn't know what happened. That don't hit him. It didn't compute. Boop. Oh, he hit me. His whole body just said, nope. Nope, not right now, bro. Boom. Debo, that was hilarious. Debo, did you hear what he was saying? After the fight? He was like, bro. He wasn't going to hit me. Come on, bro. We in cahoots, bro. You going to really do this to me? nothing to get nobody in trouble.

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24:35James Harrison:I don't want to say this to get nobody in trouble, but damn, really, bro? Hey, listen, bro. I'm trying to tell you. Don't go out there fighting nobody with a plan that y 'all think y 'all gonna work together. Don't go out there and rob a bank with Ray J. Once one person gets hurt or hit, period, hit. Soon as somebody get hit, that plan going out the window. They swinging haymakers. Everybody got a plan. Because Hot 5 was skipping around. He wasn't even trying to fight for real. And Ray J was throwing him, hitting him, you know what I'm saying? And then he threw one. Yum! And took off his Wi-Fi.

25:10James Harrison:And he hit him, boy. That whole thing, it rebooted. Rebooted. The little circle thing started going on the TV. It was dial-up. Dial-up. It was dial-up. Heard it. He just hit me all shit.

25:30James Harrison:He just hit me. Bruh. That was crazy. He was talking about, you know, not to rob a bank with Ray J. I'm trying to tell you. No, he tell it. He said, bruh, really? To me? Really? Aye. He said, bruh, he said, we lost tonight, bruh. We lost? Hell no, you lost. Hell no. You lost tonight. He said, aye, he sound like you, Joe. We lost tonight. Nah, you lost. Bro, no, man. You lost tonight. That was actually hilarious. Good job. Oh, man. Look here. I thought Johnny came through. What's up? Yeah, Johnny came through. For sure, for sure, for sure. Look here, man. This is what I'm talking about. Oh, yeah.

26:16James Harrison:This is different. Quartz side tickets listed at 595 ,000 for the NBA Finals. Mm-hmm. The Knicks are one win away from making it. Well, they're going to win tonight. We already know that. And when it come down to it. They said already for the, it's two tickets, Courtside, and Madison Square Garden that are listed at$595 ,000. Who is buying that ticket, Joe? Man. This is what I'm talking about. That's why they can't win. That's why, yes. That is crazy work. They said two of them. Two. No, no. Row 3 already sold for$139 ,000 for one ticket. So it's two of them for like$280 ,000 for Row 3. And they already sold.

27:12James Harrison:Not even on the floor. You're not even on the court. Your feet aren't on the wood. Those numbers, it's crazy. But, I mean, if you can get it, you can get it. I mean, you can go ahead. But what? I don't know who's buying that ticket, Debo. I don't know who bought a$138 ,000 ticket. That's crazy numbers. But somebody, I mean, I don't know. People getting to it right now. That's just, that's crazy. But$139 ,000 is crazy for a ticket. Ain't nobody going to be at that game, bro. Bro, that game's going to be sold out. Not at$595 ,000 for two tickets. I tell you this. Who is paying that, bro? It might not sell for this.

27:56James Harrison:It might not sell for this. because the tickets the tickets are actually probably only these are all aftermarket tickets so it's only worth what somebody's willing to pay that's the crazy part so the tickets on probably maybe 15 15 ,000 20 ,000 for the court size on a on a base value man how much a ticket going for in Cleveland right now five dollars floor seats how dare you the Cavs tickets bro it's no like right now I would say They can go, $50. $50. $50. $10. $10? No,$10 ,000. And nobody paying$10 ,000 to go out there and watch them get their pay. And everybody's there. All the seats are sold out, Devo.

28:41James Harrison:Yes. It's happening. When it was last, when it was the finals games, the tickets was 25, like 25 to 30. Whoa, $30 ,000 for the court size back in 2016 when Brown was there. Well, yeah, that was... And when you go to Golden State, Golden State was selling theirs. It was$100. hunting something to get in Golden States. So people are paying it. They got, that's, you know, I watch. Or I'll tell my man, Dan, I got to get him a ticket value. I'm trying to get ticket value. I can't be spending that. Hell no. Ticket value. What? For one night? I'm talking about, but like, ticket with the discount, I'm getting my, you know, friendly.

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33:42James Harrison:I'm with you, Debo. Neither am I. Neither am I. Bro, I could have$50 billion. I ain't paying that. But that's the other part, too, though. So most of these, like, yeah. The$595 ,000, Debo, I can't understand it. That is an astronomical amount of money. But it's only what somebody's willing to pay. So somebody had the courtside tickets. What's up? What's the most you would pay? for now I'm not you court side y 'all about to sweep New York you court side you about to sweep New York most hours to go to the to go to the Cavs Cavs versus no I'm going to Cavs versus Golden State you know what I'm saying in Cleveland game 7 finals I'm paying for because me and my lady because she probably going to want to go too so I'm going I know Dan and them they going to look out they look out they look out for me for doing the finals but if it was ah ah Ain't no lookout.

34:38James Harrison:Ain't no lookout. No lookout. We going straight. Game seven. Fan, what's he doing? You a fan. You ain't got, you don't know nobody, man. Right now. I'm going. All right. All right. I'm going. This is business. I'm going. I'm going to do 20. I'm going to do 20. A ticket? I'm going to do 20. Yep. Joe. Joe. Is that love? Joe. Is that love, Deebo? Can I say love? Can I say love? Bruh, 20, 40, 40. Joe. That's just once in a lifetime. That's once in a lifetime. 40, Joe. I'll go 40 for the lifetime.

35:22What?

35:24James Harrison:Joe, I can do so much with that.

35:29James Harrison:Over a year. You talking about two hours, three hours. How many times we going to ever make it? That's what I'm looking at. Never again. Lifetime experience. So that's a lifetime experience. Never again. It's something like the Cleveland Browns going to the Super Bowl.

35:49James Harrison:See, that's something that's not too crazy. What's not too crazy? The Browns. Going where? The Super Bowl. This season, saying that this season, that would be crazy. but in the near future I can see it especially with the new stadium come on D-Bo we got what's up stop it we're getting talent just keep watching just keep watching ever since we started this show we haven't been doing nothing but getting better first season now we're gonna see how many wins we get this season watch you already said y 'all getting what 12 12 No, it's 8 to 10. 8 to 10? Yeah. Okay. Maybe even 11. 8 to 10, maybe even 11.

36:42James Harrison:That's a big range. Give me something that's a big range. No, minimum 8. Minimum 8. Minimum 8. Minimum 8, okay. Minimum we go 8 to 9, and we be like, dang. 8 to 9, just. Yeah. That's good progress for y 'all, It's definitely good progress, but it's still not, we wouldn't be happy. I don't know about that. I kind of felt like I felt happy in your voice when you said eight and nine. I'm just saying. Let's jump into the super chat. We got Mike and Mike. He said, what a D1 joke. He said, y 'all know Burl going to be a bangle for life and put up with all the bungling for the rest of his career. I don't know about that.

37:33James Harrison:I think Joe Burrow is a smart individual. I think he could sit back and sort of see the writing on the wall if he gets to that point, which I think it's about to get to when they don't turn this thing around in the manner in which they thought they would with the players that they acquired. I believe he will see the light that is lacking at the end of the tunnel and realize it's not in the Cincinnati tunnel that you get light. It's only in the Pittsburgh tunnel.

38:21James Harrison:Look, only way Joe Burrow is going to be able to get out of there. I don't think they're going to let him out. He's going to have to start acting disgruntled. And I don't want him to start acting disgruntled. I want him to do what he got to do, try to go see what's going on. But that's a franchise quarterback. The Bengals would try to hold him hostage. I don't see why they would ever try to let him go. So he would have to be like, look, I don't want to be here no more. You dudes are not looking out. We're not getting in the line. I'm not getting protected. So for the Bengals, there's no reason why they would ever let him go.

38:51James Harrison:I'm with you. But if Joe Burrow starts to really act like he wants to go and starts being like, look, y 'all ain't protected. All you got to do is go and say you're not happy, Joe. You need to be protected. And that's it. I need – you got to let me go. Right now, what he's saying – but he's not giving – he's not speaking that tone right now. Right now, I'm liking what we got. But it's showing that they didn't ask him what his input was. So he's not feeling as involved as he should. Like, if you want to be my, if I am the quarterback, I'm thinking he's always going to be involved in the franchise of seeing what's going on.

39:24James Harrison:Do you like the moves, Joe? Okay. They didn't ask him. He's letting them know. I like, I see what y 'all did. I wasn't involved. So, if it's not good, I think he would have to be like, man, listen, y 'all are wild. I don't want to be here no more. I keep being hit upside the head. Yeah. I mean, listen, I'm just saying. The man said, hey, I ain't got nothing to do with what they done did. But what they done did, they done brought some good players, and I like the energy that is over here. So let's do it. What else is he supposed to say, though? You know? If he want to get up out of there, he got to be like, man, they ain't giving me nobody to protect me.

39:58James Harrison:I'm still going to get hit upside the head. I like them, but damn. You know? We got Shade Rodriguez, 51, 53,$20, said, D-Bo and Joe, everyone looks at me crazy when I tell them we can have the most anticipated elite offense in the league. DK, MPJ, Dowdle, Warren, Washington, Pat, Aaron, tell me, tell my folks they tripping, please. What do you think, Joe? I think that she's valid. I don't know why that this is something that I believe too. I believe D.K. Metcalf. It's D.K. Metcalf. You know what I'm saying? Pittman Jr. is a big body that really went out there 1 ,300 yards. You know what I'm saying?

40:52James Harrison:Jalen Warren. Stop playing with us, man. The baller. Rico Dotto, he did not just go out there and not do that. Stop playing with him. Two back-to-back thousands. Stop playing with him. The biggest tight end. He's a left tackle that plays tight end that's jumping over people, stiff-arming people. Pat, we didn't get Pat$12 million a year for no reason. And they wasn't even trying to use Pat. They wasn't even trying to let him be here. Jonu Smith. They had Jonu. You know what I'm saying? But he was still in the holster, chilling, not making no noise. But every time he got in, he made plays on third down.

41:20James Harrison:So when I'm looking at the name, when you name the people, yes. There's no reason why when these people go out there and play to their ability, that I'm like when you line them up against other lineups, I like them. I like them a lot. They could be up there for sure. or they perform at their abilities, they up there. Listen, I'm just saying. That's what we got over here, Burrow. That's what we got over here. I understand you got an affinity to, you know, maybe a couple receivers over there, but, you know. Yeah, look, we're taking them. It's a possibility we can get one. We ain't going to lie and say what we can get two of them.

41:58James Harrison:Burrow, bring the homies. We can get one. Bring either one. Bring Jamal Chase, hopefully. That'd be crazy to be true. No, I'm just saying. Whoever. All right. Covenant Life back. Covenant Life. She said, seeing other football players test themselves on special forces, would either of you ever consider doing that? And what part do you think would be tougher, the physical grind or the mental challenge? Manziel did okay out there. they got some type of special forces thing where you go through like the special forces training or something yeah have you seen it I did not see it oh man you gotta watch they got a couple of seasons and it's cool it's actually a really good show my boy Randall Cobb was on the joint that's my my wife okay so is married to that would you do it would I do it Debo no I think back in the day I could have did it but right now it's right now it's more of the mental for me like I think I could do the physical stuff, but it's like, I don't want to go through that stuff right now.

43:10James Harrison:I mean, I think I could do it, but I like chilling. I like peace. It's just a lot of hard work. I think I could have done it back in the day. I don't think, I just don't want to do that. I just don't see myself wanting to put myself through that right now. I feel like training camps and going through all of those two-a-days and mat drills, I'm like this. I know I had it in me, but right now, I'm really liking just chilling. You know what I'm saying? I like watching it, seeing my boys go and see who could do it because that's good work. Hey, hey, hey, hey. We got to come back to Shea. We got to come back to Shea.

43:44James Harrison:He came back. He. He. Shea is a dude. He say, I'm a dude, y 'all. Oh, my bad. Appreciate you, baby. My bad, Shea. That's me. My bad. I'm bad I'm gonna tell you right now look here I am not doing that I do not have the desire to do it I'm too old it's a lot of things that I probably would have did you know when I was younger this definitely you know could have been one of those things you know to try and you know prove something actually this is as recent as last year, they wanted me to pull a damn aircraft, one of those big... A plane? Dude, but the, I'm talking about the like the refueler. Like one of those big ass refuelers.

44:48James Harrison:I'm like, what? Hell no. I ain't see no bruh they trying they trying they trying to give me to break a world record I'm like no I'm gonna break everything in my body I got a world record have you ever cried 100 yard interception return yes to the house in the Super Bowl I got one the player of the year you should do you should do that bro the only undrafted player to ever have one and ain't been one since I'm good yeah maybe maybe younger Debo hey I ain't gonna lie that that other dude that did him yeah him oh he would have showed him off the brown and the white oh yeah you would have pulled that you would have pulled a couple planes hey amazon health ai presents painful thoughts why did i search the internet for answers to my cold sore problem now i'm stuck down a rabbit hole filled with images of alarmingly graphic sores in various stages of ooze.

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48:34I said, I'm in. Now let me see the factory. Weeks later, I was suited up in coveralls and work boots, walking through their Kohler, Wisconsin cast iron foundry. I stood next to the molten iron furnace, saw the hand applying enamel, and touched the gorgeous finished products waiting to be sent out into the world. Since 1883, Kohler cast iron products have been forged and finished by the incredible craftspeople right in Kohler, Wisconsin. I'll tell you, I gained a newfound respect and appreciation for Kohler's cast iron craftsmanship. So now, I'm lending my discerning stamp of approval to my most beloved Kohler cast iron products for their durability, beauty, and timelessness.

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49:44James Harrison:Hey, I ain't gonna lie to you, though. I called my trainer. I said, hey, you think I could pull a whatever it was? You know, he was like, well, is it, you know, is it whatever, whatever? I'm like, it's going to be a real record if I pull it down. He's like, ah. He was like, dude, there's something like 300 and something thousand pounds, dude. Like 200. It's crazy weight, bro. Yeah. Like getting it started, he was like, it's going to be the problem. But if you get it started, it'd be all right. I'm like, man, I'm going to pop everything on me getting it started. Yeah, okay, okay. See, look, I think, I believe in you, Debo.

50:20James Harrison:Hey, listen. I think you could do it. I didn't believe in the work I was going to have to do to try and pull it. You had to gain some weight too, huh? Bruh, you got to gain weight, muscle. Man, I wouldn't have a shot right now at 255. I had to go back to 308 and hope my body would hold up. Man, bruh, it's snapping. I feel it right now just on the thought of pressing. Bruh, I ain't never did an Achilles or a... Man, I feel that. See, if you're thinking about it, good thing. Don't do it. Don't do it. That's why I do it. Listen, that's why I don't do nothing competitive where I have to adjust to somebody else's movements.

51:02James Harrison:I know what's going on when I'm lifting this weight. I know where it's going to be. I know where I'm supposed to put it. I know what's going on when I'm walking on this treadmill. I know what's going on when I incline. I know all that. I am not adjusting to somebody else's adjustments because my body don't operate that way no more. Don't force it like that. Me too. I like that, Joe. Me too. I'm more of a cardio. Cardio. Dumbbells. Bands. You stretching that hip? Yep. You already know. Soon I leave out here, I'm stretching that hip. Okay. Okay. Coming to life back again. She said$20. She said, how you doing, Joe?

51:42James Harrison:Is the season over for your sons? Joe, have you ever just been out there? See a stranger? I don't know what that is. And say how can I bless you today? Have you ever been, have you, Joe, have you ever just been out, see a stranger? Okay. And see how can I bless you today? James, ask me. Glad you asked. Glad you asked. Highsmith will be with us. LOL. Highsmith will be at the Stillers. Hers place. hers still hers please come what's oh the still is the girl the still is hers the girl the event Highsmith is going to be there please come Devo and me have I ever said have I blessed how can I bless your day I don't think I ever just walked into a stranger and said how can I bless your day but I know for sure I've been trying to bless a lot of people's days is by I go pay for a lot of people's tabs.

52:53James Harrison:You know, we're at dinner, lunch, we're at the bars. Normally, I just pay for people's stuff and then not try to say nothing and just walk off on it. I do that all the time. I don't want them to know. I'll just be like this, clear that tab, please, and then, you know what I'm saying? Because I don't even want the interaction to be like, hey, you know what I'm saying? Especially if they look at you, but they don't come over and talk to you. I'm like, all right, hey, hit they tab. Yeah. Hit they tab, too. I try to do that all the time. I'm like, you didn't bother me, I'm going to pay you a tad. I'm just trying to eat.

53:24James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? Any kids at the concession stand? When I'm at the concession stands, at my son's games, everybody's eating for free. All these little kids, get what you want real quick, man. Well, you got it like that, Joe. I can't do all that. I'm just saying, I like to really... And I got to make sure, you know, I'm at a, you know, like I can't be doing that at, you know, restaurants you go to. I got to make sure when I do that, I'm sitting down at like, you know, like Chili's or Applebee's or something, you know, local diner. You know what I'm saying? I know, I know the bill ain't going to be no more than$34.

53:56James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? Debo, you are. Otherwise, I'm going to have a hot face. I'm going to be in that one. Like, what they did? How much did you? Hey, tell them I got half of it. You know what I know, though? You know what I know about a lot of rich people, too? Just because you have a lot of money don't mean you spend a lot of money. And that's what it is in your case. What are you talking about, Joe? I ain't got no amount of money. You got it. But you don't spend it. Joe, Joe, Joe, you got it. Unless you want to on the things that you want to spend it on. So I don't want to say I put you out there.

54:24James Harrison:When I got it, I spent it. You keep on talking about it. I got it, I spent it. Because I got two chains. I got two chains. I got this chain and I got another chain. And I ain't going to lose my chains. I love my chains. I ain't got no chain. Yep. This most expensive thing I got is this oil ring. Why do you lie? What else do I got, Joe? I'm not going to call you out, bro. It's all good, Debo. Man, listen. Food don't count. Okay. Food don't count. You're right. All right. You're right. That's the main thing. I got to eat. I got to drink. Yeah, you do. You got to drink. You got to eat and drink. Got to drink.

55:04James Harrison:You don't got to drink. Water. I'm going to die of dehydration. Water. All the time? it's sometimes good to have a little bit of red wine yep so your blood flow yep couple thousand dollar bottles

55:29James Harrison:i'm trying to live joe yeah no i heard i don't know if this is true this is the only reason i did it because i heard like the the better the wine that probably the more expensive it is and then, the better you feel. Yeah, a glass a day, probably. Maybe. With dinner. I mean, I ain't gonna lie. Sometimes I mean, off season, sometimes I might get a bottle a day. Yeah, you know, you can because you got a lot of weight. I had a lot of weight. I got a lot of fluid. I gotta hydrate. Gotta hydrate. I gotta hydrate. Are you drinking water also? Yes. That wine is definitely not hydrating. Listen, this is what I do.

56:09James Harrison:This is what I do. A glass of wine, a liter of water. Glass of wine, liter of water. Oh, OK. Yes. You good. That's what I do, Joe. Oh, yeah. You good. I know you got to you got to be somewhere tonight. Yeah. Game for eight o 'clock. Yeah. Cleveland. Right. Are you are you going to be there? Because I'm I'm I'm actually probably going to just come because I got some people there. that got seats anyway in this court side too. So, they got season tickets. What time are you getting there, Joe? I hope I don't see you there. But, in the case that I do, Wow. That's crazy. Because you're not going to I hope I don't see you there.

56:53James Harrison:You know why? The only reason why I say that because you're not going to you tell me how you really feel. I'm going to be sitting there watching you hope that we lose the whole time. And that's not fun. I want to be sitting there with somebody like my man. It's like, come on, cast. Genuinely, you looking at me like this. I see you. You're going to be laughing. And I'm going to be like this. It's really not funny. It's crazy how you got all this love for these strangers, but for your own, your own homeboy. You know what I'm saying? Supposed to be my brother. I got love for you. You don't even have a dog in the fight and you still laughing at me.

57:29James Harrison:You supposed to be my dog. You ain't got no dog in the fight. I got a dog in the fight. And you're going to get anybody that's not my dog. Where you going to be sitting at? The chat want to know where you're going to be sitting at, man. They want to watch you on TV. You know where Jody at, man. You know where I'm at. Court side Jody, man. Court side where at? Where at? Court side Jody. You going to catch me at the Cav side. Cav side right next to him? Cav side right next to him. Okay. Behind him or in front of him? Or on the side of him? I'm going to either be on the side of him where the bench is, like under the hoop, or I'm going to be to the side of him where Coach is, where he walking across.

57:59James Harrison:I might stab him in like, who's subbing in? So I'm going to be at one of the two. Okay. Okay. So you're going to be letting... Okay. Okay. Yeah, y 'all going to see me. Watch. Okay. Go Cavs, yo. Listen. This is all I want to know. What's up, brother? When they get down by 20 in the fourth quarter, are you staying through the whole game?

58:23James Harrison:Yep. It's going to be... I got to send them off now. If we down by 20, I just can't roll out early. Nah, man. They fought the good fight. I'm not going to send my dogs off like y 'all are just trash. Y 'all got swept. It is what it is. But you know what? Guess what? I still got my jersey on. All these other teams, all 28 other teams, Boston fans, they been at Cancun. You know what I'm saying? Nah, duh, D-Bo. Stop with the moral victories, though. It's only one winner every year. It's only one winner every year. Everybody else is a loser. Everybody else is a loser. All right? but they fought the good fight they fought the good fight we still fighting we ain't going out of line we still fighting I'm going to see them tonight yeah they fought the good you had it right they fought the good fight it's over with they about to go in here and get walked all over ain't nobody even talking walked all over look here ladies and gentlemen we want to thank you guys for joining us on this episode of Jibo and Joe so please make sure you like, subscribe, and download where you get your show.

59:36James Harrison:Joe! Yes. Make sure y 'all like, subscribe, and see y 'all tomorrow as my Cavs just try to not get the... We try to not get... Do it for the land. If you don't do it for anybody, Cleveland, do it for the land. Do it for the ones that love you. Do it for Jody. Do it for the city. Do it for West 6th. Do it for your pride. Do it for downtown. Do it for you, Clint. Just make sure y 'all clean it up. Do it for everybody. Do it for the city. Come on, Cleveland. Just don't get us out. Come on, man. Yeah. Show us that you care. Show us that you care. Let's go. Here we are.

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