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22:18James Harrison:It's not. But if you know, yeah, hey, bro, I ain't going to lie, we got to let you go. what did they just what's devil's advocate they're working they're working on stuff they're trying to figure it out but it's not it's not set in stone we're working on stuff we're trying to figure it out it's not set in stone how fucking hard is that to say you're a puzzle piece though I'm a puzzle piece we're trying to figure it out we don't know I don't know how hard is it to say I don't bro I really don't know we're trying to do something I don't know if it's gonna go this way or that way I don't know this is the thing Sashi Brown and them, because I was in the situation when we called the Browns talking about, are y 'all going to release Joe or not?

23:01James Harrison:They was like this, no, we're not going to release Joe. So they lied to you. They lied to me. So next thing you know, I got released. So my whole thing is like, it's the business I got lied to, but I took it on the chin as like, oh, it is what it is. I'm going to go find my opportunity elsewhere. Yes, you find your opportunity, you do that. But now I know I can't trust to believe nothing you say from this day forward. And I'm going to keep you at a distance. Yeah, no, no. You understand? I have to know who you are. And if I know you're a person that's going to lie to me, I'm going to put you in this box.

23:34I'm not going to sit here and play with a fucking rattlesnake and then be surprised when it bite me.

23:39James Harrison:Yeah. Know the person you're dealing with and you put them in the right box so that you know, hey, when I deal with this person, I put them in. But that's the part, that's the thing I wanted to say too. I'm never putting ownership or coaches or GMs in the point where I really trust anything that they say. You know what I'm saying? Because at the end of the day, they're trying to protect themselves. Hey, hey. That had to happen. That didn't happen until they lied to you, right? Yes. Yes, yes. Yes, yes. But that's that's where when you first come into the league, though, you you you're not. Well, this is the earlier.

24:25No, I can sit here and tell you, hey, this is going to happen. That's going to happen. Do it. Watch this. Watch that. Watch that. You not go believe it until it happened to you, because as far as you're concerned, that's that man's problem. That's something he got going on with him. Yes, yes, yes. No, bro. It's if you know that he's going to lie, he's going to lie to everyone. He's not going to just lie to one. He will lie to the people that he needs to to get done what he needs done because he's a liar.

24:58James Harrison:Period. Yes, I'm telling you, I'm with you a thousand percent. I don't think that there's going to be really than any true unless like there's no loyalty in it at the end of the day. Like that's what, and this is the thing. You have some coaches, you have some GMs, you have some owners who have no loyalty to anything other than them getting what they want. It doesn't matter what happens to any person, player, coach, whoever it is that works for them. okay and then there's some that's going to tell you exactly what it is and it don't matter how you feel about it because that is the person that they are not the fucking position i can feel that i can see that because i'm listening to robert i can see where yes owners are doing that robert craft with tom brady being able to keep it real just honest honest with him like let him know no you're not going nowhere and then he don't go nowhere or when it's time tom is all right we're I have to go in a different direction.

26:02Just... I will tell you this, bro. I will tell you this. When I was in New England, Kraft pulled me to the side. And he was like, hey, James. He's like, I want you... I want to talk to you. I'm like, all right, cool. What's up? He said, why is it that we were able to beat you guys even though for the most part you guys were more talented all together than we were. And he said, do you think it's Tom or do you think it's Bill? And he basically was telling him, he's thinking about, at that point, that was 2017, he's thinking about moving on from one another. He was trying to make a decision, right?

26:53And I'm like, I'm going to be honest with you. And I'm like, I think Bill does a great job of coaching. Like, you know, he puts his players in positions to be able to get out of them what it is they do best. We had defenses where we had like seven, eight different personnels. And he would switch out two people just to put a guy in there that he knew could do the job that he knew done. And Bill would sit there and be like, OK, if they do this, I'm going to do this. But then he flipped to the other side. how would I go back and defend this and he'd be ready to kind of react whatever it was that happened like and I was like yo like he's good I'm like he's damn good he ended up later you know going with Bill and Tom went and got him another Super Bowl over there but I dude like the honesty thing of the that's a really it really is D-Bo I know guys that have been I know guys that have been cut from different teams, from other teams from whatever it may be and you have some GMs that's just like straight up hey, I don't think you got it anymore you have some dudes that be like sugar coated with you know it's this or that, nah and for the most part dude most cats they get the straight forward like yo I appreciate your honesty I don't feel that way but I appreciate your honesty on it and they able to move from it and they still deal with that person now them up they go and give them the sugar coat and lie and all the other stuff they're like man I really don't I'm gonna keep them at a distance I'll play fake hate and all the other stuff but I'm gonna keep them at a distance I ain't gonna give them nothing that I gotta trust and believe what he says that's all there's to it bro

28:45James Harrison:no you ain't lying All we can ask for is The dudes want Honesty Yes dude This is the thing dude I could have went back to New England I could have went back to New England Bill was like yo I want to bring you back He was like but I don't want to tell you He said I don't want to lie to you And tell you What is going to be And what your role will be Until after the draft And we done went through the draft And I was like cool And I'm sitting there the whole time bro And I'm like, I really don't want to go all the way back to New England. I don't want to be away with my kids again. And I'm like, you know what?

29:28I got to retire because I know if I got to the draft and he called me and he was like, hey, I'm gone. Because I was back in love with the game. I'm gone. I'm gone. I'm like, yeah. And it wouldn't even matter what it was for, to be honest with you, dude. Because I just love playing. I like it. You know what I'm saying? So I was like, yeah, I got to retire.

29:48James Harrison:No, I feel that. Yeah. Like, that honesty. When I got there, bro, he was like, we're going to put you in on this defense right here. And, you know, as you learn it, if you're able to learn it, we'll put you in on other ones. I was on everything except for like one thing by the time we got to the Super Bowl. Mm-hmm. Like I said, man of his word. He going to do what he said he going to do, and he going to keep going. And that's what he did. When I signed with the Steelers too, man, they kept it being with me the whole time. We had real conversations. Omar, it was Kevin Colbert, just legit. Omar, they let me know what it was, where they stood.

30:29So that's why at the end of the season, boy, I knew what time it was.

30:34James Harrison:I knew we weren't going to be able to find a way to get that new deal done. So, boy, I didn't even go to the exit meeting because I knew what it was. It's a business. It is what it is. We already talked. Y 'all kept it to buck with me. They went up to the exit meeting. I'm just sitting in my bed. I'm going to tell you right now, Kevin Colbert and Omar are the ones that I would tell you right now, especially as far as what I've heard from other players with myself being included in that, that keep it a buck. Yeah. You know what? When I go back to the Browns too, I wouldn't say that. On this one, I don't even really think they lied.

31:06James Harrison:It was a, if you don't accept, they asked me to take a pay cut. I said, I'm not taking no pay cut. You don't take the pay cut, then we probably going to chop you. maybe didn't believe him. Didn't take the pay cut, got chopped. That's on me. That's honesty. That's honesty right there. That's on you, baby. They told me to take the pay cut. And I said, no, I'm not taking no pay cut. It was... No, no, no. No, no, no. That's on... They ain't lie. They ain't lie to me. They ain't lie to you, baby. Take that pay cut or no. You ain't going to be able to find... But the real part was, you ain't going to be able to find nobody else with no better deal than this, Joe.

31:47James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? They started saying like, oh, no, your market ain't going to be out there. And I'm like, okay, I hear you. But at least you're telling me. At least you're telling me. At least you're telling me. That's what I need to hear. Let me go. Boom. Ended up finding a home. But goddamn, I had to remember. I look, I go back into the pool. I'm like, just hold up. Nope. They got the pay. They told they could hit me up. Joe, we're going to have to give you a pay cut. I'm like this. Oh, because you know why I'm thinking about not taking the pay cut too? Debo, we signed Brock Oswalder to the damn Browns, and he got$16 million and didn't play a snap.

32:22James Harrison:And I'm like, y 'all trying to take$5 million from me, and y 'all just gave Brock$16 million, and he ain't do a thing? You're bugging. You're bugging out. I'm going to stay right here in my deal. We signed the deal. I got hurt last year. I'm still him. You still got me in the good country. I'm still in the good contract. I just got hurt. I'll be right back. I'll be right back. I still got Pro Bowls in these legs. They're like, just, ah, we don't know. Got to take this cut. I'm like, just, ah, I don't know. I'm not. Stop. Suey. Okay. Okay. So that's how it happened, D-Boy. That's how it happened.

33:00Got.

33:01James Harrison:Okay. Got to be more careful. Yeah. Hey, they told me. They did. You know, I said, let me get that dirt off they name. Let me get that dirt off they name. Hey. Let me get that dirt off they name. Hey, you don't take that pay cut, we might have to cut you now. You're going to take that pay cut, but we might got to get you out the way now. Y 'all said might. I ain't believing it. They said might, but they meant, they meant will. They meant they could or they couldn't. It ain't if, but when. Hey, you might as well had told me, hey, you don't take this pay cut. Might as well had. God. Yep, yep, yep.

33:34James Harrison:That's how it went down. I ain't going to lie. Remember like it was yesterday. Now, when I'm talking about it in real time, I'm like this. Dang. Yep. And then Drew hit me and said, Joe, they trying to get it back. I said, oh, no, Drew, we're not doing that. He's like, okay, bet. We're not doing that. Definitely, Super J. I'm with you. You shouldn't take a pick up from me. What are you talking about? What I look like? What I look like? Joe, hey. Get out of there, Joe. Okay, so we got options. Super J, they're going to cut you. With the Steelers, I like you a lot. Okay, we got the Dolphins, and we got the Saints.

34:04James Harrison:I'm like, you know what? I'm going to Pittsburgh. I'm not. I'm going to see y 'all. You know what? Y 'all thought I was washed. I'm going to come see y 'all. I'm going to come see y 'all, man. Yeah, for sure. Come on. We're going to come see y 'all, man. Let's see what this Super Track got going on, bro. What they got going. We got Covenant Life. She's back. $10. Thank you very much, Covenant Life. Roger and that Malibu rental car from last year can kick. Got to be more careful. Can kiss rocks. Kiss rocks. Kiss rocks. We tied. She meant kick. I think she meant kick. I think she meant we tied. Tied.

34:49Iron wheel. Step up to the plate. Hey, Joe, thank you for your dress. Dressing appropriately. Thank you for dressing appropriately. Thank you for dressing properly today. James, how many caps do you have in your reach?

35:06James Harrison:You definitely was swapping out caps. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. You seriously got all them sitting right there? I got 16 caps. Man, I got everything in my room. One room, Joe. You ain't even counting the caps behind you. I don't wear those. Those just. Oh, I got a couple over there that I do wear, but you can't see those. Man, you got. I got a one-bedroom studio. You know that, Joe, right? Yup. There you go, line of the people. I got one bedroom. You got 16 hats in your office. It's crazy work. 19. But hey, at least you wore the right colors. Oh, yeah. Came through fresh with the Steelers 5.

35:52James Harrison:Yes, sir. Practice jersey. Call that a Gator 5. You know what I mean. Gator 5. I mean, call it what you want to, man. We're going to call it a sweep. Call it a Jalen Ramsey. We're going to call it a sweep by next Tuesday. Cleveland Cavaliers. Nope. I'm going to probably have to be, I'm going to be end game for probably Monday. While we're cleaning it up, while we're making it 2-2. Hey, look here, man. Covenant Life back again. It's only Covenant Life and$5. Covenant Life appreciates it. She said, back in your playing days, how many family tickets could you really get? And today, can you still call for the same love or all those perks gone?

36:35James Harrison:She talking to you? Oh, back in my playing days, I had a suite for the fam. We had 16 tickets a game with like six suite passes. You know what I'm saying? Making sure they was in there because my parents came to every day. Hey, listen, Joe. This is the problem. Everybody think we get free tickets. Oh, no. You got to pay for those. That suite in the Cleveland, Joe, 100 bands. Yeah. 100 ,000. There he is. Taking right out the check. We need it for the suite. Hey, we do not get free tickets to the football games. We don't get those. No, we get them on a nice call. When you go and you got like all your family coming, like I'm the youngest of 14 and I will have a whole bunch of people coming sometimes and I have to get like 25, 30 tickets occasionally.

37:21Those are paid for out of pocket.

37:23James Harrison:Take it out of my check. You're going to just get the picture. They take it directly out of your check. It is a deduction that's labeled right there. You don't even see it. They don't say pay it to me. Your box comes straight out that check. Don't worry about it. We get it. Yeah, that is crazy. Right now. Like everybody, man, just give some tickets. Yeah, I'll be like, here, this is the price of it. Being a retired player, we get way better hookups because you call up to the people and they get something. Discover a spectacular island destination with crystal blue seas, endless sunshine, and the cool Bahamian breeze.

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42:06James Harrison:They get you, you know, the owner, they could put you in a box. They put you somewhere. They give you tickets to get in the building. Right. Now you get, you get, you get, you get to the, but you ain't getting, but you ain't getting nothing but one or two. Two, two max. Don't be sitting here trying to get four tickets. Hey, hey. Who do you think? No, you get two of them joints. You're going to be in good space. You, hopefully you can bring a homie. You plus one. It's like a wedding. When you go into these, I ain't gonna lie, dude. I get me and my kids every time I'm going to go. Okay, you and your kids.

42:35My guy, my guy, my guy, my guy look out for me.

42:38James Harrison:I know. Larry Paul, he would definitely look out. And Thomas Toad, both of the guys. He always look out for me, man. Every day. He's a legend. Yeah. He always look out for me. Yep. Yep. So, Covenant Light back again. $10. She said, Stephen Jackson, 3041, said the Browns could win every game if they started saying to stop, bruh. The chat also said the Browns win AFC North. Joe, let Debo have a moment to shut this all the way down. What up? Joe, you shut this down, man. The Browns win AFC North. What I'm telling you is... Bruh, don't say nothing goofy and stupid as hell, please. What I'm telling you is...

43:26James Harrison:Yes or no question, Joe. They could. I said, do the Browns win? This one I'm trying to tell. They don't, I don't know. I don't know who's going to be my starting quarterback. Don't nobody know. Do the Browns win with Shador starting? He said they win every game if they start. Who is this goofball? Brother. Yes or no? Shador starting, do they win every game? And do they win the AFC? We don't win every game. Do you win the AFC North? The North is up for grabs.

44:04Do you win, yes or no?

44:07James Harrison:The North is up for grabs. Be a man. Be a man. North is up for grabs. Give an answer. North is up for grabs. He ain't put me on the... I got time. I got time. Before the season starts, right before the season, I need to see more. I'm going to training camp. I'm going to be there. I need to put my eyes on it. I don't need to hear nobody else telling me what it looked like. and then go see for myself. That's the best way. So they beat the Steelers. That's our only comp. That's our only comp. It's our Steelers. Raven's not stressing. Bengals not stressing.

44:48Bruh. Yeah.

44:52James Harrison:You are out of your mind. All we have to do is, bro, I want you, we need to have an intervention because you are on drugs. You are talking crazy. You, we need to get you help. You didn't watch, you don't be watching the Browns the way I be watching them. What the hell I need to watch? What am I not seeing? What am I not seeing that the records ain't showing? Listen, it's a working process on the offensive side of the bowl. Now we got our line. We got the same skilled players, but better. Okay? Defense didn't go anywhere. Defense is going to get better. Special teams is going to get better. Full team, offense, let's score.

45:44James Harrison:We're going to average. We average over 21 points a game. We're in there. That's nine. That's at least nine wins. 21 points a game against who? Against the NFL. What are you talking about? Three touchdowns. Yes. Joe, I'm going to sock you in your face. No, you're not. Joe, Joe, Covenant got another one. She said, I recently watched A.B.'s show, his son's auto and Ali football footage, and you could hear how proud he was and saw himself and his sons on the field. Do you men have that same feeling when you see your sons? I don't want to see nothing about me and my sons. I want to see something far greater and better, and it ain't got nothing to do with football.

46:33I want to see better men. I want to see greater men. I want to see people that love more, that care more. I want to see a person that is far greater than me in every aspect of their life that has absolutely nothing to do with football and being a godly man.

46:49James Harrison:That's it. I think seeing my kids be healthy, be happy, enjoy whatever they're doing gives me so much joy as a dad. So I want to love what they love. I want them to love something, do it, and have passion. So seeing my kids out there on the field, it makes me happy because they're enjoying it. Not because I want them to be out there. They like playing. They like being out there, like having fun with their friends. I don't want to live vicariously through my child I want my child to be way better than me if he wants to play if he does not want to play a lot of pressure Joe a lot of pressure on their back you know who is not giving that pressure and I make sure I let them know that it's not from dad we don't have to do this we don't do whatever hey bro we do not have to do this this is not what you have to do I do not care I don't give a damn I just want you to do something that you want to do.

47:51James Harrison:And whatever you want to do, son, we're going to attack it. Because you know what you're going to do? You're going to do something. You're not going to do nothing. You know what I'm saying? You know, it don't have to be basketball. Hey, you're going to do something, though. Hey, you're going to leave here with something, son. We're going to go and get something. That's what I'm telling you. That's what you're going to do. Bond and being around. I don't do that. I don't do that. I don't do that. We're going to do something. Track and field. Individual sports. You like golf, son? I don't listen.

48:15James Harrison:Like, we can go swing the club. I'm going to make you play a sport, though, because you need that. I think you need that. I think you need to have some type of sport that you have to fight and transition through and lose and win and have ups and downs. And bond and play and just, like, structure. I love the coaching, being able to listen, drills, listening skills, attention to details. Like, all of that stuff is just so, just coordination. What you're not going to do is just be walking around here like you don't know how to control your limbs. Yeah. For sure, for sure. My man. We got another one.

48:53What is this one right here? All right, there we go. What's that? Goot? That's it. $1 ,006. $20. Appreciate you. He said, when will Deebo fight Chad Johnson, a.k.a. Ocho Stinko.

49:18That said, with warmest regards, God bless you both and the Stillers. Yes, of course. Love the podcast. Thank you very much. I paint while listening and some laughs are permanent on the canvas.

49:36Brother, I need to see some of that art, man. I want to see what you paint. Please. You got to send something. You got to send something to the IG. Send something to the IG on Deebo and Joe, man. Send it to the IG. We got to see. We got to see what you got. Please.

49:56James Harrison:Let's hear that all we're talking about. I want to see what you're paying, man. I got to see what you're paying, man. Yes, sir. That fight ain't with me and Chad. They ain't having it, Deebo. He backed out. He victim weight. I can't do it. You ain't trying to go to jail. I can't do it. You know? But what we got? What's today? Friday? Okay. Okay. So. I think next week we is going to be jumping. Tomorrow. Tomorrow. Tomorrow we got. No, tomorrow is Saturday. Oh, Lord. Hold up. Covenant Life didn't jump back. Whoa. $100 Covenant Life. $100 Covenant Life. Congrats on 100 episodes. Thank you, Covenant.

50:49I love you men for life. Thank you, Covenant. We appreciate you. Appreciate it. Listen, listen. Always. W's in the chat for Covenant.

50:56James Harrison:Always Covenant. Always for show. For show, for show. Like I was saying, man, tomorrow somebody plays. A couple teams, actually. Who is that, Joe? You already know what time it is. My boys. The Cavs. And the Lakers. And? Yeah. Are you locked in? Joe. These are... Listen, man. Just call me CeCe. For what? CeCe. You know who CeCe is? I know CeCe's the bad for you. Chad. Chad. Chad would have named it. Would have liked... You call him Mr. Cunningham. Oh, K. Y 'all call him K. Y 'all, yeah, sorry, K. Y 'all call him Mr. Cunningham. K. I was thinking about Chad Ochoa. Y 'all call him Mr. Cunningham, okay?

51:54James Harrison:It's a sad, it's a sad, I'm sad to say, the Lakers versus OKC, you got a point. That could get ugly, that could get tricky. My Cavs, though, I still believe. we're going to come back and win the series. You don't understand the way the series go. You don't watch basketball. So we need to steal. They calling that man the calf killer. If they win game three, hey, listen, after they win game three, I'm going to call you because I know you're going to be on suicide watch. I'm going to be there for you. Somehow, wait. I'm going to be there for you. Hey, listen, man, I want you to think, though. When that happens, you got kids.

52:36James Harrison:No, no, I ain't gonna be crazy. I ain't gonna be crazy. Okay. I might just... I'm just saying. I'm gonna be so close to the game, game four, that Mike, if they need me, I will be right there on the sideline If they need you, it is over with. That is true. That is true. That is true. That is true. That is true. That means it's getting ugly. That is getting ugly. You're right. You're right. Man... If they need you, it is over with. Strictly for moral support. Strictly for moral support. Strictly for moral support. Okay. Okay. Strictly for moral support. I could go with that. And also, Sunday is Mother's Day.

53:12So we got to give a happy Mother's Day to all the mothers out there. Yes, yes, yes.

53:17James Harrison:We love all the mothers. Happy Mother's Day, Mom. Happy Mother's Day, Mom. Yes. Yes, happy Mother's Day. And, um... Oh, hey. I got one. I got one. It is my grandfather's 84th birthday today. He is the leader. He's the pioneer. Joseph Hayden Sr. My dad is a junior, and I'm the third. So my grandfather's birthday today, Joseph Hayden Sr. Happy birthday, a.k.a. Pop Pop. Come on. Yes, yes. Happy birthday. Pop Pop Hayden. Let's go, baby. Thank you, brother D-Bo. 84. Y 'all, y 'all, y 'all. All y 'all. You know, just in Pop Pop, he out there. He's thriving. He is moving and shaking. putting 100 ,000 miles on the car.

54:05James Harrison:My mama almost older than your granddaddy. That's my grandpa. 84. My grandmama. I am the youngest of 14. That's what I'm saying. How old is your oldest brother? He 20 years older. I'm the oldest boy. You know what I'm saying, Debo? That's 20 years older. That's basically how my dad is 20 years older than me. You know what I'm saying? Start a young time, 19. He got married in 19. Married in 19. Boy, boy, I started young, young. Man, started young, young. Had your boy, dub, 20. Bink. You the oldest. I'm the oldest, though. Yes. Okay. Yes. He had his five boys between 20 and 27, 28. Done. Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum.

54:55That's it. I'm done.

54:56James Harrison:One of the girls, one of the girls. One of the girls, so bad. No girl. Five boys. ah man I ain't want no girls Lord knew I couldn't handle that so he ain't give me one he only give you what you can handle he ain't know it though he couldn't handle having a girl that's why the Lord ain't give to him he ain't know it though Lord say hey I can't give it to you I can't give it to you what you can't handle I'm gonna give you five little boys no question look here people we want to thank you for joining us on this episode of Deebo and Joe please make sure you like, subscribe and download where you get your show Joe, man we got a couple for them next week bruh Monday and Tuesday Joe, let them know who we got on Monday Joe is that the 11th?

55:48that's the 11th

55:50James Harrison:is that my good man coming in? yes sir we got young Josh Cribs we got young Josh Cribs We ain't going to tell you who we got on Tuesday, but we're going to tell y 'all after that on Monday. It's a banger. It's a banger. It's a banger. We're going to act the best behaviors. Best behaviors. Best behaviors. Banger. We'll see y 'all on Monday when we got Josh Cribs up in here.

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