Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Josh Cribbs on Shedeur Sanders, Infamous James Harrison Hit & Kent State Stories

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22:39James Harrison:American Social Casino. Give him some more. He's going to grab me again. He's already out. He's sleeping. I knocked out his molar. I hear it was a church right next door. The chapel was right next door. So the priest come out and the ladies. They had to take him to the hospital and everything, bro. I tried to give him everything I had, bro. I don't know what he thought. He thought it was something sweet because I was a freshman, bro. That wasn't even happening, bro. A different breed, Joe. A different breed. Like, listen, don't lie on me, bro. I told you I didn't have it. The one thing he's not doing is lying on you.

23:18Maybe I don't take it to the level at which he's taking it. For sure. I'm trying to tell a story that can be that kids can learn a lesson maybe. You learned the lesson, man. Hey, I'm a saved man. This is the lesson I learned.

23:32James Harrison:You got to understand where not to take the recruits. I'm like, you already know don't go over the Debo crib. That wasn't even it, dude. It had nothing to do with the recruit. He's saying that right now. The recruit just happened to be there. Okay, yeah. When he saw that go on. Maybe we just happened to be there. You know what? That's what it was. Y 'all had your own thing already going on. Yes. And we came over, upperclassmen. You know, yeah, I'm the QB I go to my The linebacker, you know Yeah, I go to my match, Joe I'm thinking this ought to be all cool It was cool until he started asking me for a drink And I'm like, dude, I need all this to get A life or death situation Then it's life or death, Joe It's life or death For all of us We all felt like, hey, bro, you gotta do that right now I go over there for a pregame I leave fighting for my life I don't know Bro, I swear, man.

24:30James Harrison:Y 'all some work around here, man. Hey, look, when he did that, I was like, what's the number to campus security again? In my head, like, man. Straight fed. What's the number to 911? Yeah. Bro, I lost my mind. Bro, I couldn't think of nothing. The thoughts just left my mind. I'm like, what do we do in this emergency? I wasn't going to kill him, but I knew that was going to get him to drink it. You know what I'm saying? Oh, you had all of us straight. Oh, my God. Had your boy scared straight in there. Yeah. Bruh. He said. Listen, I knew we shouldn't have had him. I knew it. I was clicking in my head.

25:07James Harrison:I said, I wonder how much he actually remembers. Bruh, I've been putting to sleep so many times. You know what I'm saying? That memory's bad. That memory is on point. It's spotty, though. It's spotty, though. I had to clean it up. It's spotty, though. Just a little. I just told. I told you told Peter and Paul story. I'm telling Luke, you know, like it's Jesus in the Bible. We're telling different accounts of our different experiences of the same event. Okay. Same event. Same event. Okay. Same event. It's his perspective, your perspective, and the true perspective. Yeah. Hey, man, how many times did y 'all beat us, man?

25:46James Harrison:Oh, there he goes. So why you got to try to flip it like that? No, I'm asking the question because I want to get to how that felt. Because I know the one game y 'all did beat us. Yeah, we was getting about the way. Remember the real, real cold game y 'all beat us? We would get geeked. Oh, why ain't you trying to say like we had an advantage? The real, real cold. No, no, no. Like they not two hours south of it. I'm just saying. That's what I'm saying. We both was on the same field. I'm talking about that game was so cold, bruh. I'm not going to lie. Them boys was over there celebrating like they had won the Super Bowl.

26:16James Harrison:What was that, 2008 or something like that? 2009? It's crazy. Bruh. Hey, look, it was our Super Bowl. Josh is running over us. We cannot get you through. It was our Super Bowl. Because, look, any time we had a winning season, we had to go through. And I'm going to school you because you was in a winning organization for a long time. So I'm going to school you about the total scope of the AFC North. The AFC North consisted of teams that even when a team went 10-6, they still couldn't go to the playoffs because Baltimore was 11-5, and y 'all was 12 and 4. So we still couldn't even make the playoffs at 10 and 6.

26:56You guys, if you look at your team, you arguably had Hall of Famers on offense and defense. Facts. I mean, that's just facts. I mean, offense and defense. You guys had Hines Ward. You had Palomalu on defense. You had yourself. Y 'all had Port. I mean, if you look at your offense, you know, Ben, he's a Hall of Famer. Yes. Y 'all always had to start running back.

27:23James Harrison:That quarterback. If you look at y 'all squad, Baltimore squad, and this was when Flacco was in his heyday. And then we brought up the rear with Cincinnati, the Battle of Ohio. So the AFC North in that time was so stacked, everything ran through the AFC North. Whoever was on the top of the AFC North, they're going to the playoffs and have the best chance to win the Super Bowl. So when you say I have to put it in perspective for your fans, who already know, not to just say, oh, the Browns with some trash. No, we went 10-6, and we still couldn't get in the playoffs. That's cool. And then that's the year y 'all went to the Super Bowl against the Cardinals, who was like 9-8, who made it.

28:03They was like 8-8 or 9-6 or something like that, 9-10. And they made it. They weren't supposed to be there. And you got Super Bowl MVP running that kickback, running that –

28:12James Harrison:I should have got it. What's the name got it? Tone got it. You ain't get the – Tone got it. Uh-uh. No, that's a whole other story. I should have got it. They wanted to give it to me. Go ahead. I was biased. I was biased. But, yeah, I remember he did get that catch in the back of the end zone. Yeah, that was the catch in the end zone. But you stopped him from scoring and you ran it back for a touchdown. I thought that was more impactful. Yeah, it was an argument about it. Let's just say that. When I got to the podium, they hadn't picked it yet. They thought it was going to be me. but sources say that somebody put a hold on it said if i get it they wouldn't go be uh doing nothing else with uh with the nfl because i had uh dogged a punt returner i mean the owner on the punt return i had i had uh mushed uh the dude that tried to cut me what's his name yeah so you uh basically they was like he's not gonna represent the shield well So we can't give it to him.

29:13They looked at your history.

29:15James Harrison:No. Well, that play right there, they were like, oh, no, he shouldn't get it because of that. It was just one person, though. No longer with us, though. Just go back to the game. Think about who's no longer with us. I ain't going to blame you for this. Very, very popular person, though. Hey, I thought you should have got it, though. Because we wasn't there, I was rooting for you. And look, you know I got hate for rooting for you. And I was trying to tell people to separate that because I'm like, look, like I can root for a guy. I'm not rooting for his team. Like when he made it, you know, as far as he made on the biggest stage, like we out of it, man.

29:53We at home watching. I'm like, I'm rooting for that guy to do well. And when he, you know, made it today, it was like, man, that's he's a stealer. I'm like, yeah, man, golden flash first. So people couldn't understand that. even though he, I feel like, honestly, I'm going to just say this, I feel like he ain't have all his screws. Like, man, I was like, you won't hit the quarterback like that. I'm like, man, hey, man, he's a little, funny. He's a little challenged on the rules of football. I am not challenged on the rules of football. He sees red, and then after he sees red,

30:26James Harrison:he just got to wait till the whistle blow. You came to the Browns in what, 2005, right? Say that again? You came to the Browns 2005, right? Yes. And you was already in. And then Joe came in 2010. Yes. Right? What was Joe like as a rookie? Did he come in there with all that money throwing it in y 'all face, talking crazy? No, sir. The opposite. The opposite. Hell no. You better say something reckless about it. Joe came in and we was torching Joe. Ah! You remember that Joe week? The whole receiving call was like we gonna make him earn all of that money. Torching. I'm going to try and get into the rookie that got all this money.

31:05James Harrison:Go routes. We basically had to put the test on him. Hey, just go. Just go. Go route. Everybody. And look, he was like, man, what's going on? Like, we ain't give him nothing but straight go routes. Yes. And was catching everything. It was like, huh? He just couldn't believe, like, it wasn't going to be a dig, a slant. Straight go routes. Every time. Every single time. And then you got to come back for the next play. Mm-hmm. I'm going to tell you this. He came back for training camp. locking everybody down. Come on. Locking everybody. We had to give it to him. Locking everybody down in training camp.

31:41It was as if he watched film on all the receivers on his team. All of them.

31:46James Harrison:Man, I'm about to get into training camp. I'm going to whack his asses now. Like, he came ready, man. He got me out here looking like I ain't a first-round pick. But that's what we wanted from him. When he came to camp, to mini camp, OTA, we like, man, We about to let him know what the league is going to be. If you can't stop the simple to go route, you're going to get tossed in this league. He came in training camp, ready. Balls to the wall, ready, ready. Thank you. Did that have anything to do with that slow 40 time you ran? Man, shut up. That was my back, man. Hey, look, go back to Cribs. When I got there, bro, this one I'm going to say, you were so deep into the city of Cleveland, bro.

32:27James Harrison:Like doing everything. Everybody like the biggest fan favorite. What was that for you? Like, what, when you got to Cleveland, made you want to be so involved into the city? Because that's what I did also, Brad, and I really kind of got it from you, like, moving, grooving, getting around. I think it was more so, you know, how'd I got there? You know, not being drafted, you know, from the bottom of it. It was only two spots that they was, you know, letting on the team. And it was either, you know, practice squad or, you know, special teams. And it was just two spots. It was 30 guys, just two spots.

33:01So just looking at how I made the team, you know, blue collar, like ground up, you know, getting in from the back door, you know, making it from the ground up. It was like, that's what I identified as. And then remember, I came in with Braylon Edwards, who was 18-5. That's how I remember. And I tell a story about him in a second. But, you know, seeing all the money y 'all got coming in, I'm like, you know, I have to represent the guys who the free agent guys who make make their way to the top. So how did and I'm always thinking long term, like, man, the fans pay a lot of money. Let me treat them right.

33:39Yeah. You know, life after football type stuff. Having that mentality, man. Treat the guys. They rooting for us. Even like J-Bo said, man, you know, we beat the Steelers one time. And our fans treated us like royalty. We was at the Cavs game on the front row.

33:57James Harrison:Of floors all the time. They put us on a jumbotron and showed highlights of the game. And was showing me ball out. I was like, oh, my gosh, I can get used to this. You mean all we got to do is beat the Steelers? We want nothing but like six and ten. Oh, that's the tall feet. Yes, but it was. Y 'all was Super Bowl playoff contenders every single year. So we beat that team, but y 'all didn't make it that time. So we played spoiler. We played spoiler to them. Joe, Joe. Yes. It was so cold, that game. We did not give a damn about losing. We wanted to get back inside. And it kicked us out of the playoffs.

34:38James Harrison:Don't want to hear that. Don't want to hear that. Don't listen. Don't want to hear that. It kicked us out of the playoffs. It's an excuse. It's an excuse. Bro. Bro, it's not an excuse. They gave it all, Joe. No question about it. That sounds so. But I'm trying to tell you, bro. They played their hearts out. I know they played their hearts out, man. They played their hearts out. Bro, bro. You think Tomlin would have had them? They're not going outside like that. Exactly. Exactly. You think Tomlin would have allowed them? I'm just trying to tell you, bro. I'm just trying to tell you. Debo, you saying this.

35:04James Harrison:Now, Debo, that's how I know you. I'm telling you. Listen, I'm not lying to you, Joe. Excuse me. Telling me you was too cold to play the game you love. You was too cold. Uh-uh. You're a liar. They won. Y 'all won. No question about it, bruh. I don't, that's what happened. But I'm just telling you that it kicked us out of the playoffs. And I was so cold after we lost, bruh. I didn't care. I just wanted to get off that field. But you know what? It was cold. I remember hitting the ground and it felt like concrete. Bruh! The ground felt like concrete when it's cold. Listen, bruh. I'm trying to, that's the coldest game I ever played in in my life.

35:42James Harrison:I'm sitting there. I never go out to warm up, bro. I never, never go out to warm up. Everybody coming in and talking about, oh, man, it's so cold. It's this and that. I'm like, man, shut up, man. It ain't cold outside. I know what it's like, man. Right. So we had a thing that you put on sleeves as a linebacker. That's a fine. Joe. Yeah. When I stepped out that tunnel and the cross breeze came, it was raining, but it already turned to sleep and it was needles. it hit my arms Joe I got three steps out and I did like this and started to turn around to put sleeves on and I said if I do it they're going to kill me that was the coldest game I ever played in my life bruh that's funny my coldest game was in Pittsburgh and one one snowing or nothing it was it was zero it was so cold I was catching a cramp shivering and I remember getting hit and blocking and doing all that.

36:36Y 'all was losing. That's why. That's what I was going to tell you. You only felt the cold because y 'all was losing. You only felt the cold that time y 'all lost.

36:43James Harrison:That's why my coldest game, after you lose, it's a lot colder. Ever. Ever. Bro. Ever in my life, bro. Like, I would have took a fine just to be warm. Bro, that's the only game where at least half of the team, bro, was running to the heater every time out. Facts. If not the whole team bro if not the whole defense i'd be stuck by the heater question though look i got a question for you that off the lake wind blowing all that yeah that is not pretty go ahead you know how you know how they change the rules right as far as like hitting the quarterback yes um did that make um for james did that make you feel like because i know you were still hitting the quarterback the same way and you was getting fine the same way and you and goodale kind of had that back and forth for a long time did you get that this is for me not being in y 'all locker room did you get an okay from from tomlin like go do you i always wanted to know that did you get the okay from your squad i i never i never got an okay i changed how i was hitting guys to be honest with you i tried to try to change i tried to lower my strike area but when you lower and they lower you end up hitting at the same place right like yeah listen i went to the um when i went to meet with roger goodell right and i'm giving them the most impossible scenario i said if i go to tackle a guy and i said at the last second i'm going to tackle his ankles i said i'm going to tackle his ankles i'm talking to merton hanks and i tackle his ankles and i said the last second he bent his whole body in half and put his head down there and i hit his helmet that's on me yeah i said when we ain't got nothing else to talk about.

38:32James Harrison:We ain't got nothing else to talk about. So you was like, I'm going to just go play because I know I'm going to get fined either way. Either way. You're fining for anything. If my helmet touches his helmet. It don't matter that it's my fault or him luring his head into the position. I tell you the worst possible could ever happen that he literally sees me diving at his ankles and he drop his head to his ankle and I hit him helmet to helmet. That's on me. So in today's game, would you not be as effective? No, I would be way more effective, to be honest with you, because I started lowering my target area.

39:07James Harrison:You remember, I almost tore some ACLs. But that's the thing. You can't hit QBs, though. And you used to hit, bro. A running quarterback, you can hit however you want to. I never really had issues with tackling the quarterback. I got fined twice on the tackle from a quarterback. And that was because it was Fitzpatrick. And I hit him in the chest. I guess. And that was a form tackle, bro. Face up. And they were like, oh, it was too hard of a tackle. But I never really got fined for like just outright like, oh, you hit the quarterback. It was on receivers and running backs and stuff like that. Hey, Cribs.

39:46James Harrison:Yes, sir. What you think, man, what you think? We've been having big conversations about our Browns quarterback decision. We got Shadour. We got Deshaun Watson. What do you think? What do you think, Cribs, my fellow Brown quarterback? What do you think? I'm going to be honest. Be honest. I'm going to be honest. I'm going to tell you what I want. Yes. I want your door. I think when, and I only say that because our fan base is divided on Deshaun. Because we just want to win. Yeah. So I'm in a camp of, hey, I just want to win. That's it. I don't care who the QB. I just want somebody that's going to help us win, right?

40:28Yes. And for me, you can't judge the type of quarterback Shidori is from practice. It's when the lights cut on, just like Baker Mayfield, when the lights cut on, then he's able and capable of doing something special, especially with an offseason. Yes. However, it's business. how much Deshaun getting 47 million regardless if he sit the bench or not and if it's our team and I'm spending that money I'm like man look man come on because the money is going to be spent regardless

41:11James Harrison:I mean it's been spent the last couple years and you ain't got a chance to use him what's the difference in giving him his last year and saying hey go ahead and get the rest of the guy and see what my young boy can do The hit has to quantify the talent. If he didn't have it no more and you saw it, that's one thing. But if you see him, he looks and plays. But my thing is this. How much better does he have to be for you to say, I'm going to put you in here and risk having to pay him another 40 and not give Shador the chance to develop? He's going to get the 40 regardless. I understand that. But if he goes in there and say he plays not extremely well, but he plays well enough that you win, you get into the playoffs, you win a playoff game.

41:57James Harrison:Now you're going to let him go? Yes. If we get in the playoff game, we're winning. I understand that, but his contract is up after this year. You're going to give him another 40? No. No. So let me say this. So why are you going to put him in a position then? Let me say this is the ideal situation for me. Support for the show comes from Public, The investing platform for those who take it seriously. On Public, you can build a multi-asset portfolio of stocks, bonds, options, crypto, and now generated assets, which allow you to turn any idea into an investable index with AI. It all starts with your prompt.

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45:38James Harrison:Yeah. It's supposed to be Super Bowl worthy of our fan base. And it's going to be fire. How good would it be to feature Shador as the new starting quarterback then? And I don't want to say Deshaun Fiasco, but once we see that through, then in come a new era. yeah i still want you that still doesn't that's where i'm i kind of like i'm kind of like iffy about because i'm i'm still on on on his side because i want to see a change i want our fan base to be united right now it's not because deshaun is getting the first reps he's just getting the first reps in practice and he looks good if i'm a quarterback coach if i'm a head coach, he looks like the protege, the prototype for QB.

46:32That's what Deshaun looks like. Todd Munkin, he came from the Ravens where his last game, Deshaun Watson's last game, he led a comeback against him in great fashion before he went out with the injury and had all that happened. The game he came back, he was leading a victory. he was leading the Browns into score before the Achilles every time he got he's gotten injured he was on his way back to do something special he was propelling the team you saw it it was like uh oh can they find something from him and yes the fan base and the media around here they're they're kind of done with him yeah but if you look at the reps that he's taken if I'm a betting man I'm thinking it's going to be Deshaun because of the reps.

47:24And we heard what Todd Munkin said. Todd Munkin said, you know, I want to give my starter, whoever going to be the first, you know, the leading quarterback, QB1, most of the reps. Well, Deshaun has been getting most of the reps. That's not me wanting him to be the starter. That's just what's being seen. Yeah, that's just what's seen. Again, I've been around Shador, and you know Joe, we played in the celebrity softball games. We had fun, and we got to be around the team, and alumni weekend. Those guys are great.

47:59James Harrison:Going back to that, listen, going back to Monken, and you're saying he's giving the guy all the reps. Don't forget. He did say, no, no, no, no. Don't forget he did say, he said, now this can change. And then he added that it can change even if someone is getting two-thirds of the reps or someone is getting one-third of the reps because he said you still have to play the preseason and you still got to see what you got. So you want your guys to get the reps, but just because he's getting two-thirds of the reps, he said that doesn't mean he's going to be the starter. They don't play in the preseason.

48:33Like, when have you – I think they're going to know who the quarterback is before the first preseason game because you don't – the Browns have – and that's under Stefanski. I didn't like that because I felt like now the first few games games they're going to be rusty i like how we used to do it how they give you know the uh especially the last preseason game they give the starter a whole series and a half you know to get acclimated before that first game however that first you'll see how the reps go they don't teams don't really play their starter well the browns haven't really been playing well you got a new coach too so

49:11James Harrison:you got a new coach it may be different he also said that once we get back on the field for those four weeks at the end of spring that he would have a better idea. So, yeah, I believe he'll know who his starter is before the actual first, you know, He will. But he's also saying that the reps could change. And even though you're getting more reps, doesn't mean you're necessarily going to be the starter. Right. So I want to be real for a second, right? You the head coach. is just incumbent upon you to kind of keep things, you know, keep the media quiet a little bit. Hey, everybody start off as an A, and you earn your grade from there.

49:55That's kind of like blah, blah talk right there. That's like, you know, finagle. I think they understand who the starter is. I believe they talk as an organization who they want the starter to be, and they're going to get that guy prepared behind the scenes. And then we as we in the media or fan base, we kind of surmise, we make our opinion, you know, based off of not just who we want, but who we see, who's looking like is going to be the favorite. Right now, we know the favorite for the fan base and, you know, national fan base. They want to see Shadol, you know, and we heard Mary Kay make her opinion on what she sees out there.

50:37and I remember Shadol's family they didn't like what she said but she out there she's saying the same thing I see it online I'm like dang

50:51James Harrison:you gotta realize she's credible too when it comes down to it it's an opinion and she's stating facts of what she's seen so you can't get upset with that because it's facts in an opinion that's the same way when you're talking about it you're saying at the very beginning and you stated, I would like it to be Shador. But then knowing at the end of the day that it is a business and seeing that if Deshaun Watson is healthy, he's out here playing well, that could be a reason. I'm more where you were at first. I like Shador. We got weapons. We're going to get a line around him. We got a coach that can show him and teach him.

51:25James Harrison:Last year, he wasn't getting no reps. He wasn't getting no vibes. He doesn't know no love. So I think just a coach that can help him grow, I think that would be great. So with Deshaun, I understand when you bring it to the money part. That's 46 mil, and we know even if he does ball out this year and wins the playoff game, we're not re-signing him to any more money. But I'm with you to the point where I'd rather go Shador first, and if Shador doesn't perform, then we can put Deshaun back in and see what happens. Or Jalen Green, the third-string quarterback. But having Deshaun Watson start off first and him potentially being able to go out there and ball, he's not our long-term future.

52:05James Harrison:See, that's the fan in me. I have your opinion as the fan in me. As the football fan, I want just that. But as a coach, the only reason I would say Deshaun is because now he's built value. Even though Shador is the future, now I can trade. It's going to be some trades. Quarterbacks will go down. Deshaun will have some value. Maybe not at that high level, but enough so we can eat, so another team can eat the cost and offset the cost. He's done after this year. But that's what I'm saying. There's no cost to offset. But he could be traded even in the beginning of the year if he shows that value. Nobody's taking that 46, right?

52:50Nobody's taking that 46. They don't have to. He ain't taken that in the past two years. They don't have to. It can be an offset. They don't have to. They don't have to take the whole thing. And look, teams will get.

52:59James Harrison:45-41. I mean, 45-1. Teams will get desperate when they need a QB1. When you need a QB1 for your season, teams will get desperate. But regardless, I think you're toggling the one and the two from Shador or Deshaun. It's a battle of them two right now. That's all I see. And it's really in the fact, because I think that the coaches made their minds up. They're just keeping it tight-lipped. Well, yeah, this is something else to a lot of, hell, coaches, players don't realize. They can ask you a question. You ain't got to answer it. You just got to be available for it. Exactly. You can say whatever the hell you want to say to the question.

53:37James Harrison:You can say, hey, James, how do you feel about Joe going out there and doing da-da-da? I like peanut butter and jelly. Exactly. You know what I'm saying? I mean, you ain't got to go that far with it, but I'm just saying, you know. For sure. Look here, man, we're going to jump into these super chats. But, bro, I want to tell you, man, you should be in the Hall of Fame, man. A thousand percent. If I had to go and look at your comparison, man, you know, it's a good comparison, but it's a bad comparison for a guy that, you know, has played his career, has been as great as you have at the position of returner, man.

54:09James Harrison:You look at Barry Sanders. You look at Dan Marino, guys that haven't won a chip. You are that as a returner in this game, man. I really hope you make it to the Hall, man, and, you know, I wish you all the best. We're going to jump into these super chats, though. Appreciate y 'all, man. Love it. Yes, sir, man. We got, oh, you mads,$5. He said, what do you think of Drew Aller? I'm not sure if he's, I'm not sure if you've given an assessment, but I would like to hear what you think of him. What do you think of Drew Aller? I think y 'all trying to find a QB. Y 'all drafting a saint. Y 'all trying to find y 'all next Ben Roethlisberger.

54:51by drafting these big quarterbacks. Y 'all did it last year with Will Howard from O-State, and this year Drew. And you should have saw it. And you probably seen it, Joe. He had a hard time putting on that Browns hat. He's a diehard. I mean, that Steelers hat. That Steelers hat. He's a diehard Browns fan. 30 years his family has had season tickets. He'll do well for you guys reluctantly. He'll reluctantly play well.

55:18James Harrison:Listen, listen, listen. I'm going to tell you this right now. All that fan-tism and all that stuff, that shit go out the window when you see who's signing your check. And I know that. I know that. I've been to Cincinnati. I've been in New England. When Ruby is on your check, you a stealer. When you got Brown is on your check, you a bangle. When you got Kraft on your check, you a patriot. Now, you can say that all you want to. That boy know where his bread is butter right now. That's a fact. That's a fact. You understand? Facts. Covenant Life. We got Covenant Life back. 50 dollars, Covenant Life.

55:58James Harrison:Covenant Life is our biggest fan, bro. Yes, she is. 100%. It ain't nobody that's bigger than her. She said, hello, my Joe. Yup. She said, I am just trying to accept the things that I cannot control, and that is that the jersey you have on, Josh, how important is special teams really to building championship teams that obviously isn't a Browns question. Ringless? Ringless. She trying to say ringless? Covenant Life, Cribs? Covenant Life. Covenant Life will shoot. I like Covenant. She's a big Steelers fan, but she sometimes just shoots shots. Sometimes you got to be both. Just a shot shooter. So how important is special teams to building the championship?

56:43Well, the best teams has some of the greatest special teams units. You can look at the dynasty that Tom Brady, Bill Belichick had. Their special teams, and y 'all know this, the special teams, it was top tier. And a lot of the better teams at the collegiate and the NFL level, special teams is like a no-brainer. Joe, you know, it's been sometimes where our defense and special teams was the only thing to keep us in the game. That was the only thing that we had. Like, why is the returner and the kicker heralded in Cleveland? Because there was a time where that's all we had. And it changed games. And special teams can change a game.

57:25When you have a good offense, a good defense, all you need is the superior special teams, and it can change the play in one game.

57:31James Harrison:Yep. Facts. Okay. Facts. Facts. Look here, we got$2 from Heckle Santi or something like that. I don't know what your name is. It says, J-H-9-2, True Blue Brothers Keeper. That's true? True Blue Brothers Keeper? What is that, Josh? True Blue? Maybe Kent State? True Blue? I guess so. It got to be. Or the Blue Collar, you know, special teams. what is true blue I don't know hey you know James hey Joe you know James was on special teams yes that was his initial he went up against me a couple times when I was in the box too you had a what you mean kick off a turn nah punt I had to block him yeah he had just freestyle rush on me bro not even trying to block a punt bro just gonna come and just tee off on me.

58:36I'm like, come on, bro. I ain't about to let him run down.

58:39James Harrison:I ain't about to be chasing him down that damn field, bro. I'm like, bro, come on, man. I'm firing off on him, man. Hey, we had to punt so many times. Look, I cut him the first few times, but ain't but so many times you can cut him. We punting seven times. I'm like... He hip. I done gave him all my moves. I'm like, dang, we got to punt again. Hey, bro, I went over to the other side. He followed me to the other side. You switch your side. Bro, they was like, yo, he go make the tackle. I'm like, nah, man, listen. I'm going to do it, but listen, I'm not trying to block. I'm going to try and maul him right here on this line.

59:20James Harrison:That was crazy. He wasn't even trying to get the block. I was like, man, go block the punt. He's like, nah, man. I'm getting you. Yes. Oh, man. Covenant Life back again,$50. She said, Jay, please don't say anything smart because I know you'll be drilling me. Get out of my way. I had a vision of you signing books, and the title was From Cut Days to Sundays. It was a bestseller in 30 minutes. Built from rejection. That's an odd title. That's a nice name right there. That's an odd title. Go ahead, Covenant. I don't know. Covenant might be over there drinking again. She might be on that wine. Hey, that's when the best ideas come up right there.

1:00:08James Harrison:Yeah, sure. Hey, listen. Some of the best ideas. You know. Hey, hey. Joe know. Facts. Come on, man. Facts, yep. DJ, I want to tell you. Oh,$2. He said it means you real. It means you real. Heppo Sonny. True Blue. True Blue. Oh, true blue. True blue. True blue. Through and through. True blue. Okay. Brothers keeper. Yes, sir. True blue brothers keeper. For sure. I might use that. For sure. I mean, on the field, not really, but I got to do my job. But off the field, like, yo, I told you, that's my guy right there. I bucks with him for sure. 100%. You know what I'm saying? Tell wifey I still care about you.

1:00:55James Harrison:Yes, tell wifey. Hey, we good now. We ain't even got to go ahead and, you know, I ain't got to do nothing. We just could. I can go to the game. Matter of fact, when's a homecoming game up there at Kent? I'll let you know. I'll send it to you, man. Okay. We open up with South Carolina. We got O-State. Oh, okay. We got our work cut out for the course. They got to make that money. Shut up. Hey, I'm telling you. Hey, we going to get them on. You right. Special teams going to be on point. I'll tell you that. Nothing else. Yes, sir. Nothing else. Yes, sir. Chris, man, shout out, man. DNV legend, bro.

1:01:29James Harrison:I love you, bro. Thank you. Love y 'all, bro. Thank you, man, for coming on. We appreciate you, man. Look here. Hey, tomorrow we have Omar Khan. He will be with you. Okay? So we want to thank you guys for joining us on this episode of D-Bo and Joe. Please make sure you like, subscribe, and download where you get your show. Joe? Yo. Catch us tomorrow with Omar Khan. Same time, same place. Let's get it. And we out.

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