Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Logan Paul Backs Out, Trent McDuffie GETS PAID, Claressa vs. Rolly

9 Mar 2026 · 42 min · 14 chapters

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Podcast Summary: Nightcap - Episode: Deebo & Joe - Part 2

Podcast Overview Title: Nightcap Hosts: Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson Description: A nighttime sports talk show featuring unfiltered commentary on NFL, NBA, and college football.

Episode Details Episode Title: Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Logan Paul Backs Out, Trent McDuffie GETS PAID, Claressa vs. Rolly Episode Description: Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they discuss the latest sports headlines, including Logan Paul's withdrawal from a fight with Le'Veon Bell, Trent McDuffie's contract with the Los Angeles Rams, and Claressa Shields' bold claims against Rolly Romero.

Key Discussions and Highlights

  1. Travis Kelce's Future with the Chiefs (00:00)
  2. Conflicting reports about Kelce testing free agency.
  3. Debo believes Kelce should test the market to secure his worth, especially with uncertainty regarding Patrick Mahomes' availability.
  1. Trent McDuffie's Contract (04:56)
  2. McDuffie signed a four-year, $124 million deal with the LA Rams, making him the highest-paid corner in NFL history.
  3. Comparisons with other top corners, including Sauce Gardner and Derek Stingley.
  1. Claressa Shields vs. Rolly Romero (11:44)
  2. Shields claims she could defeat Romero, sparking a debate on gender and weight class in boxing.
  3. Discussion on the physical differences between male and female fighters and the implications for physical combat.
  1. Logan Paul's Withdrawal from Fight (18:00)
  2. Paul backed out of a fight with Le'Veon Bell, supposedly due to WWE's influence.
  3. The hosts speculate on whether fear played a role in his decision.
  1. Play or Fade Segment (23:30)
  2. Debo and Joe discuss various sports bets as they analyze upcoming games and player performances.

Key Takeaways

  • Business of Sports: The episode emphasizes the financial strategies athletes must consider in contract negotiations, particularly for those nearing the end of their careers.
  • Combat Sports Dynamics: The hosts express skepticism about female fighters prevailing against male counterparts, highlighting biological differences that impact performance.
  • Entertainment vs. Authenticity: Logan Paul's situation raises questions about authenticity in sports entertainment, particularly regarding fighters' motivations and the influence of corporate interests.

Conclusion This episode of Nightcap presents a blend of sports analysis and humorous banter, showcasing the hosts' deep understanding of the sports world while keeping the conversation lively and engaging. The discussions offer insights into the complexities of player contracts, gender dynamics in combat sports, and the intersections of entertainment and athletics.

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Chapters

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Travis Kelce's Market Decisions

2:45 to 7:30

Discussion on Travis Kelce's potential market decisions and team dynamics.

“And along with them testing the market, you know who come with me when I go?”

Trent McDuffie's Contract Analysis

7:30 to 14:00

Analysis of Trent McDuffie's recent contract and implications for the NFL.

“The thing you said too, the friendly deals, if you get in the, if the bag is bigger somewhere else, for sure, but it is a contender, Definitely.”

Clarissa Shields vs. Roley Ramirez: Analyzing the Matchup

14:00 to 15:10

A breakdown of Clarissa Shields' confidence in her ability to beat Roley Ramirez.

“She was on Justin LaBoi and she said this, man.”

The Physicality of Male vs. Female Boxing

15:10 to 22:44

Discussion on the biological differences affecting boxing outcomes between genders.

“I'm Clayton Eckerd and in In 2022, I was the lead of ABC's The Bachelor.”

Logan Paul and WWE: Who's Afraid of Fighting?

22:44 to 28:00

Speculations on Logan Paul's reluctance to fight due to fears of facing a real opponent.

“So I'm just really, I just think he's, men and women in physical combat is something that I'm like, I just don't think that it's a good way to go.”

Debating WWE's Influence on Fights

28:00 to 29:00

Discussion on WWE's potential fears regarding match outcomes.

“And that is why I believe he went and did that.”

Taking Punches: The Mike Tyson Challenge

29:00 to 30:50

A humorous debate about the absurdity of taking a punch from Mike Tyson.

“He done went and did your jaw like Joshua did your brother.”

Play of Fade Segment Introduction

30:50 to 31:40

Introduction to the Play of Fade segment, featuring sports predictions.

“My son said, hey, I'm going to go eat it.”

Analyzing Player Performances

31:40 to 33:55

Insightful analysis of upcoming basketball games and player performances.

“You done cooked up this lineup right here, baby.”

Upcoming Guests and Super Chats

34:10 to 35:50

Discussion about guest appearances and responding to viewer super chats.

“Unfortunately, it didn't go according to plan.”
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Viewer Feedback and Football Discussions

37:40 to 42:00

Engaging with viewer feedback and discussing football topics.

“Everyone thought they knew how it ended.”

Debo's Perspective on Joe Thomas

42:00 to 46:00

Debo shares insights about his matchups with Joe Thomas and his technique.

“Yeah, they get you out the way right now.”

Fan Perspectives on Player Decisions

46:00 to 51:40

The hosts discuss fan opinions on signing players and managing team dynamics.

“He said, what do you guys think about going out and signing Tyler Boyd?”

Understanding Team Strategy and Cap Space

51:40 to 54:20

Insights on team strategies regarding salary cap management and player retention.

“Because he's like, oh, my team wants to win.”
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0:45Joe Haden:But what if we didn't get the whole story?

0:47James Harrison:I've just been made to fit. The moment you look at the whole picture, the case collapsed.

0:51Joe Haden:What if the truth was disguised by a story we chose to believe? Oh my God, I think she might be innocent. Listen to Doubt, The Case of Lucy Letby on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Clayton Eckerd. In 2022, I was the lead of ABC's The Bachelor. But here's the thing. Bachelor fans hated him. If I could press a button and rewind it all, I would. That's when his life took a disturbing turn. A one-night stand would end in a courtroom. The media is here. This case has gone viral. The dating contract. Agree to date me, but I'm also suing you. This is unlike anything I've ever seen before.

1:33Joe Haden:I'm Stephanie Young. Listen to Love Trapped on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Nancy Glass, host of the Burden of Guilt Season 2 podcast. This is a story about a horrendous lie that destroyed two families. Late one night, Bobby Gumpright became the victim of a random crime. The perpetrator was sentenced to 99 years until a confession changed everything. I was a monster. Listen to Burden of Guilt Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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2:44James Harrison:all for taking care of you they say some conflicting uh reports emerging about uh travis kelsey and he's possibly going to be going to test the market uh i guess originally it was said that you know he was going to be back and that was just uh basically a given that you know he would be there i think the athletic reported they expected him to return to kansas city and then the ap had said if he plays the only place he's playing is kansas city and that he won't test the market bull spit bull spit he is going to test the market and he should test the market hell yeah test the market you know why because they thinking they're about to get this player friendly deal and that is not about to happen okay he's going to make sure kansas city gives him his worth it's a business and he ain't doing no player deal on top of that you ain't go have Patrick Mahomes for most of the year, not all of the year.

3:49James Harrison:Damn right he gonna test the market. And along with them testing the market, you know who come with me when I go? Taylor Swift. The Swifties. Taylor Swift go with me and the Swifties go with me. Hey, boom, here they go. Tickets prices just went higher than giraffe. You know what I mean? I know what you're saying. They done went higher than giraffe pussy. You know what I'm saying, boy? It's out of that. It's out of there. It's out of there. Look, what you think, baby? I don't know, Debo. I don't know, though, about this one. I don't know. I think he might chill. I think he might chill. I think he's going to stay in Kansas City.

4:28And the reason why is for two reasons.

4:31James Harrison:He might test the market just to see what the value is, and I think Kansas City may match it if he does that. And or, Travis, he got Patrick Mahomes there. That's his mans, bro. That's his good man. He's not going to be back until late in the season. Late in the season. If they don't get close to matching that, do you think that he could possibly go somewhere else? Say they talking 10, somebody else talking 15, 16. I mean, I can see Trav chilling. I can see Trav being in a comfortable position where I don't know, depending on who's giving him the 15 or 16, I'm not seeing him go to a bad team for more money right now at the end of his career.

5:20James Harrison:The money with Traff, he's got a lot of stuff going on and the dude is up for sure. So with me now, I'm thinking, I feel like he wants to win. He's not going to want to go out as a loser. He doesn't feel like, I don't think that$4 million is going to move the needle for him in too many ways. So I'm thinking he's going to try to be for sure on a contender. You know what I forgot? You're right. You're right. He got the whole, he got steakhouses in Kansas City. My man got like, he got real live things going on. Money's cool. So if Seattle say we want you at 15 and Kansas City say 10. See, see, that's what I'm saying.

5:58James Harrison:Right there. Right there. I love when you study, Joe, because it's something you don't want to say. It's something that's different where, am I talking about me or am I talking about Trav? am I talking about, you know what I'm saying? Like, what I think maybe he would do is probably still, I don't know, he'd probably still stay. I don't know. That's what I would say. I would think so. I would think so. I don't, yeah. I think with the situation now, how many more years, I don't know how many more years Travis has been thinking about playing. What if it's LA? Rams, what if it's the Rams?

6:32James Harrison:That's interesting, because he likes the goal, the family, him, they got cribs out there in LA. So, if you say something like that that makes sense, then, you know, that's not a bad move. And Lala ain't never mad at L.A. Trav, they've been in L.A. That goes. That goes together.

6:53James Harrison:So, we will see. It's choked to death here. I don't, if you would ask me right now, I think he's going to play with Kansas City, for sure. I don't think he's going nowhere. Yeah, I don't think he leaves KC, no matter. I mean, I really don't. I ain't gonna lie to you. I just don't see it happening no matter what the number is. To be honest with you, I think you just got too much there. Unless, like you said, it's you go to LA route, that's a lot more, you know. A lot more endorsement opportunities over there. No, for sure. You know what I'm saying? He got, the man, he got options. I wouldn't mind.

7:30James Harrison:The thing you said too, the friendly deals, if you get in the, if the bag is bigger somewhere else, for sure, but it is a contender, Definitely. But you wouldn't. I'm just not seeing Trav going somewhere, winning two games, because he can make a couple more dollars. Oh, hell no. You know what I'm saying? Be in a jacked up situation. Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of L.A., man, we stay out there with the Rams. The Rams don't get that man, Trent Duffy. Four years,$124 million, including$100 million guaranteed, made in the highest paid corner in NFL history. Yes, sir. by

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8:13James Harrison:$900 ,000. He makes 31. Sauce Gardner at 30.1. You got Derek Stingley. He's at 30. Then you got Horn 25 and he goes down from there. Ramsey 24. Patrick Sertan 24. Joe. Yes, sir. Where does put nephew? nephew little peasy Joey Porter Joey Porter where this put nephew at Joe yes sir the thing is he's going between the minimum it's going to be between 24 at the minimum and then 27 is going to be minimum 27 is going to be minimum 27 is going to be minimum and we only taking only taking 27 if it's fully guaranteed this is this the only reason i'm trying to tell you this this is a free agent an unrestricted free agent so he's going to go and get the highest highest highest bag possible so when that's why when i was going through the same thing revis was getting 16 a year as a free agent and that's when me richard sherman and patrick peterson were going through our negotiations.

9:31James Harrison:Pat P, I mean, Richard Sherman got 14. Me and Pat B got 13.5. And the highest was 16 at Darrell Revis because he was just floating around free agent. Long-term deals were just a little bit less than that free agent going to go break the market. So when we say that, like, and nephew, thousand percent. It's going to be between, like you said, over, Patrick Sattan got 24 a year. You know what I'm saying? JC Horn, 25. Stingley at 30 in his new joint. Okay, okay. You're making sense. I'm looking at it like you say, 27, 27 to 30. 27 to 30. That was a good mark. 27 to 30. 27, 27. And we're going, we're looking for a four-year deal?

10:14James Harrison:We're looking for a four-year. Okay. That's 108. So you're looking at four for 108. But it's fully guaranteed. Fully guaranteed at 26. Every penny. Every penny. And they're only going to four for 108. a... Listen, he got Jamar Chase twice a year, man. What y 'all talking about? No, trust me. I'm with him getting the bag. I'm with Peasy because he's done what he had to do. He went out that joint, balled out, was getting better every year, and he deserves it, for sure. So we're just talking about now in guarantees. What are they looking like? What are the guaranteed numbers? I'm rocking. You're trying to go...

10:52James Harrison:You're trying to get how much of the contract guaranteed? You're trying to get the full thing. If you're talking anything, around 26 to 27, I need full. I need a full bag. So if you're talking about that, all four. Okay. I hear you. I need all four guaranteed, man. What are you talking about? So if you did, so that 25, that'd be four years, 100 million fully guaranteed. If it was 26, it'd be four years, 104 fully guaranteed. What's wrong with that? I'm just, I'm just, I'm just trying to, that's just a lot of guaranteed and I haven't seen he just got a hundred million guaranteed out of 124 108 out of 124 he got he got a hundred million guaranteed out of 124 a four year 124 so a week ago so you're saying four years I hear you I hear you I'm just four The thing is with the guaranteed money, it's going to cut it off because it's going to be a three-year deal with the guarantees.

12:01James Harrison:So if Lil Peasy signed a three-year 78 fully guaranteed, do you know what I'm saying? Like that would be$26 million a year, three years fully guaranteed, the whole deal. Do you know what I'm saying? We need four years. Basically, the fourth year is just that extra. that's just the year that you put on there that it's good for them that's the case the number it ain't fully guaranteed no more I know we're talking three years a hundred million that's basically TJ basically signed TJ basically signed a three for 108 fully guaranteed do you know what I'm saying that last four for 124 that extra at the end that doesn't really matter you're going to renegotiate or something's going to happen at that last year if TJ would have just signed a three year 108 fully guaranteed then that's where I'm looking at Leom Peasy doing the same thing as a three-year, you know what I'm saying, $78,$80 million fully guaranteed instead of putting it four for adding that extra year to make it 106 and then they can do whatever they want at that last year.

13:03James Harrison:That's why I said fully, fully. That's what I'm saying. You might as well just do it. The shorter deal is what it's going to be then if they're going to go fully. It's going to be a three-year for 70-something. We ain't doing no less than four. Y 'all already had my guy dropped down to the second round. Nah, uh-uh. I feel you. 30. Because he's trying to get 30, 60, 90, 120. He wants to fall for 120. No question. For sure. No question. This man at 31. You got two more right there sitting at 30. I'm not mad at it. The 30, that's just that simple math. That simple math. One twanky. the Twinkie like pay nephew man get nephew his money man give him his money man what y 'all don't want to do I'm trying to tell y 'all what y 'all don't want to do is let this man get into this season and then play this season out and I'm telling you right now you ain't gonna be able to you ain't gonna be able to keep him it's gonna be about 33 34 you right cause they ain't doing nothing but going up ain't doing nothing but going up so I would say for sure my man get that little 4, 120 4 years 120 he can do the same same deal thank you brother yeah we saying okay no for sure let's get it look here man I don't know how this works but it don't never happen but Clarissa Shields believes she can beat Roley in a fight.

14:49James Harrison:She was on Justin LaBoi and she said this, man. Is there a male champion regardless of weight? Yep. That you believe you can beat? I beat Roley. He's a world champion. Roley Ramirez. Listen,

15:06Joe Haden:it's not about... I think Roley is very unorthodox. He's very strong, right? But I'm... I'm Clayton Eckerd and in In 2022, I was the lead of ABC's The Bachelor. Unfortunately, it didn't go according to plan. He became the first Bachelor to ever have his final rose rejected. The internet turned on him. If I could press a button and rewind it, all I would. But what happened to Clayton after the show made even bigger headlines. It began as a one-night stand and ended in a courtroom, with Clayton at the center of a very strange paternity scandal. The media is here. This case has gone viral. The dating contract.

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20:10James Harrison:Way taller than him, way longer than him, and got better boxing skills. How about one of his punches, though? Did you not hear what I said? It's hard for somebody smaller to hurt somebody that's bigger.

20:21Joe Haden:I walk around at 185. He fights at 140. Or is it 47?

20:27James Harrison:It's 140, 147.

20:29Joe Haden:But I'm just saying, though, like, when you, and then, like, with his skill set.

20:37James Harrison:Yo. Yo. What do you think? Oh, first, first, I want to hear from you. First, I want to hear from you. Okay, I understand she's walking around at 185. I understand that. Yeah, she is. He fights at 147. Who says he's not walking around 20 pounds heavier either? That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Right, that's what I'm saying. I just don't see it happening, even with the weight difference. She says she's taller, but I believe the reach is almost the same, though. They got the same reach, I think. I want to say it's 68-68 is the reach. And just men in general, you generate more power.

21:19James Harrison:They're saying it's anywhere from like 30 to 40 % more power based on a pound per pound being the same as far as, you know, a man of this weight and a woman of this weight. It's a higher, you know, muscle mass, like density. Like, it's just, it's different, dude. Like, it's just evolutionary, genetic, biological stuff that is there that you just can't get away from as a male and a female, dude. like thicker skulls, like thicker jaw structure. Like it's it. Like it's totally different. I don't think, I don't think she's taking into account all that. She's just looking at her skill and I understand you believe in your skill and all that, but like, dude, a dude hitting you?

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22:05James Harrison:That's, I don't know. I definitely don't give her a chance of winning. And if it is, it is very minute. I would say I do not want to see this fight at all. I think the one thing is Clarissa Shields is one of the baddest women I've ever seen in my life. When I've seen her fights, she has hands. She's fighting big women. She's really throwing them. When I first looked, I thought she was like 200. You know what I'm saying? So I didn't know. She's like, I walk around 185. I'm fighting 160-something, 170. but like end of the day I just like men's strength of it's just different and her being a professional boxer that's sweet but I'm just looking at like Roley end of the day he's still walking around at 185 you want 170 you know I'm saying that's just I don't like to see that competition when we're talking about physical men versus women was always taught you don't touch a girl you don't do that just because I was always like raised you're gonna you're bigger and stronger you know I'm saying so like you always are treat women with respect, all of that.

23:10James Harrison:So I'm just really, I just think he's, men and women in physical combat is something that I'm like, I just don't think that it's a good way to go. She's the only person too. She's a woman, she's a professional, she's heavyweight boxer, but it's still like, it's just still for me, I just don't see women and men doing those hand-to-hand combat joints like that. And he's a professional boxer also. She's not like, it's just a dude walking off the street that, you know what I'm saying, is 170 pounds, she's going to probably put him to sleep for sure. Roley is a professional boxer that's taken beatings, taken pounding from other professional boxers too.

23:45James Harrison:So I just don't, I don't know. If anybody could do it, it would be her. I just do one. I don't know if I want to see it. So you think she could do it? No, I don't think she could do it. I don't think she could. And yeah, I think if anybody in the world could, she could, but I don't think that she Because he's another, he's a professional. I think he's just a male professional too. So I don't know. He done put what? 13, 14 people to sleep in. Brother. Yes. He's not no amateur. He's not doing this for fun either. Both of y 'all's hands are registered. Both of y 'all not playing. I just, yeah. It's just too much.

24:26James Harrison:Yeah. I'm not saying that. Biologically, this is too different. that I think she could against him. Now, yeah, like you said, a cat off the street, beat the brakes off his ass. You know what I'm saying? Like, easy. Gracefully. Easy work. But you're talking, you know, you're talking about a skilled fighter. I understand she, you know, her skills may be better. They actually may be better, but it ain't like he's not gonna hit you. Yeah. Like, you got hit a lot in that fight that you just fought. She want smoke, though. That fight that she just fought with, they were throwing hay. Yeah. Now think about standing there throwing hands like that with him.

25:05James Harrison:Catching him with him. Because she was taking him. She was taking him from old girl too. That's why I'm like, oh my God, this y 'all looks crazy. I don't know. Nah, I can't. Nah, man. It's this, this. And you know how that is. Next thing you know, look, she started the bleeding in there and the leaking. It's going to be looking crazy. He's boxing her up. Yeah. I'm like this. Oh, my God. Somebody's like, you know, it's just optics for me, too. Stop hitting her. You know what I'm saying? Like, she's, wow, she's taking them. She's eating them jumps. Dude, it ain't. Oh, my God. I don't think she's going to eat too many of those.

25:44James Harrison:I don't want her to eat. Have you ever seen this dude hit these people, man? Dude, he ain't taking too many of those, man. Here we go. and your boy over there Logan Paul he said he can't fight he said he can't fight after WWE allegedly prevented him from from doing it what do you think y 'all you think they actually prevented you from doing it I don't know I don't know I don't think he wanted to fight Le 'Veon because he said it in his first post when somebody said something you take him what he said. He said, and you can fight and you're not playing the league and I don't want to fight with you.

26:28James Harrison:So I think... Thank you.

26:34James Harrison:Joe, you got that whack base internet. It's freezing up out on you again. So, yeah. That's, yeah. Oh, got this big house. You got stuff everywhere. The internet trash. Trash, Joe. Trash. look here man this is what I think happened I know like you said he ain't want that with El Bell man he seen them hands he seen my dudes hands man he was like I want something untrained I ain't never did this before he a fighter he can fight I can't have that I can't do that and then you know what he did he went on head and he said let me call WWE so they can get me out of this because I'm scared that this man go put them dick beaters on me.

27:34James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? He said, I can't have that. He said, so boss, I'm going to call you. Y 'all video it so it's on record that I could put it out there that I can't fight because I'm too valuable. To the WWE. Yes, because they know he go beat the brakes off of your ass. And that is why I believe he went and did that. How many people actually have a car ready and set up, ready to go, just filming you so you can get this reason, excuse, out in the air? he probably just made look i'm gonna go devil's advocate because i don't think he i don't know if he was scared but to prove why he couldn't be on it is maybe why he did the call i'd like levy i like levy on but i'm just gonna say it could be it could be legit because he is uh the wwe he does have a contract it could be like look they looked and probably said oh No.

28:46James Harrison:I don't want you fighting them. Because they were scared. I don't want you fighting them. WWE could be scared too. WWE could be scared. They were like, that's a man. Uh-uh. No. He go whoop on you. Mm-hmm. He go whoop on you. We can't have you over there. Now you can't wrestle. He look focused. He done hit you so hard. He done went and did your jaw like Joshua did your brother. That's crazy. His brother ain't scared of nothing. I tell you that. Listen, bro. I'm not letting Rob Boxer hit me, bro. No. I'm not. Hey, I got a question for you. Yes. Mike Tyson in his prime. 100 million. You taking the uppercut from me?

29:35James Harrison:Bro, that's the part is you just saying I'm walking in there doing like chin out. Uppercut. you hear and just it's going to

29:53James Harrison:shatter my hole break my jaw. I ain't taking no punch. I ain't taking no punch. I'm not doing it. That's what I'm saying. Everybody, if you're doing it, you're having to worry about your holes. You're going to be wired shut, mouth wired shut. So you're going to just take that not to talk. I get 100 % talk ever again. Get over here. Hey, when he pull your head off, like that, bro, that uppercut lie with it. And you victim weight. That uppercut lie with it. Pull your hold. Pop that hold. You know what I'm saying? Your neck ain't strong. You ain't got no muscle in your neck. I ain't talking about that, man.

30:25James Harrison:You heard the tackle talk about when I come around the corner. I be hitting shit, D-Bo. I'm not just walking around. I'm not gonna just look like this. I will knock some shit loose. What you talking about? Out here playing with me like I ain't really Like I ain't really put my whole body into it. That's what I'm saying. Your chin and neck taking all that, Joe. That ain't going to be good for you, Joe. I'm not letting Mike Tyson uppercut me. Are you letting him uppercut you? Hell no. My son said, hey, I'm going to go eat it. I said, no, you're not. You're going to die trying. Your son going to be eating fluids.

31:03James Harrison:I said you're going to die trying to take an uppercut from Mike Tyson in his prime. Are you crazy? Yeah, we're eating through a straw. Like, oh, no. It's no way, dude. I'm not taking that, Joe. It's a straight soup. You want to have soup for the rest of your life, son? Done. Yogurt? Done. Done, though. Joe, man. Joe. What's up, Kobe? You know what time it is, man. Yes, sir. It's time for Play of Fade, presented by Pride Pick.

31:45James Harrison:All right, Joe. Yeah. This is how it work, man. You done cooked up this lineup right here, baby. Yes. So, what we going to do? I've decided. I'm going to choose to play or fade this thing right here. Okay. On you. Okay. All right. Now, you going there, you running with it, baby. So, that's why, first and foremost, CLE, you know I rock with the land. Always. Donovan Mitchell is always in his duffel. Always in his duffel. And they're going against Philly. Okay, so I like Donovan over 26. James Harden, new addition. Welcome back to the crib. And he's been hooping ever since he's been with the Cavs.

32:21James Harrison:I like him over 20 and a half points. Those two, cooking. Cooking, cooking. Oubre, I'm a fan of Oubre. But I'm liking my people. We're going to strap him up a little bit. He's going to be under 17 and a half. 16. He might get 15 points. It's going to be a good day, but not good enough. I'm in my basketball bag, though, guys. I'm just letting y 'all know. This is going to hit. Then we got Shea Gildress Alexander, 24 and a half. Shea wakes up with 25. Shea wakes up out of bed with 25. That's nothing but done. And then Jalen Brunson against LA, against the clip, he is, he shoots at least 25 shots a game.

33:03James Harrison:So there's no chance that he's not going to hit 25. He is a bucket for them. He's their main go-to scorer. He's going to drop 25. This one right here is an obvious, obvious, obvious play if you want to make the 20 for the 260 because, yeah. What you think, Debo? This is what I'm going to do for you, Joe. What you going to do? I'm going to play the thing with you. I'm going to go against my boy. I know you know because you smart. Look here, bro. Look here. make sure y 'all download the app today and use the code debo joe to get 50 dollars in lineups after you play your first five dollar lineup that code now debo joe to get 50 dollars in lineups yes sir after your first five dollar lineups i had to get in my basketball duffel bag my bad oh yes sir yes sir look we're gonna start off with the super chats that we missed from yesterday's sorry from Friday was it Friday?

34:01James Harrison:yes from the super chats that we missed hold up

34:07James Harrison:hey what's up hey El Bell tomorrow hit me up El Bell he coming tomorrow we gonna see perfect we gonna see what really happens we gonna talk to El Bell personally perfect see what happens we gonna have him right here tomorrow top top of the show

34:28Joe Haden:I'm Clayton Eckerd And in 2022, I was the lead of ABC's The Bachelor. Unfortunately, it didn't go according to plan. He became the first Bachelor to ever have his final rose rejected. The internet turned on him. If I could press a button and rewind it all, I would. But what happened to Clayton after the show made even bigger headlines. It began as a one-night stand and ended in a courtroom, with Clayton at the center of a very strange paternity scandal. The media is here. This case has gone viral. The dating contract. Agree to date me, but I'm also suing you. Please search for it. This is unlike anything I've ever seen before.

35:09Joe Haden:I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trapped. This season, an epic battle of he said, she said, and the search for accountability in a sea of lies. I have done nothing except get pregnant by the f***ing bachelor. Listen to Love Trapped on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

35:54Joe Haden:It's a raw and honest conversation about identity, evolution, and building a life that truly matters. You desire in family, like, this picture. And that's not reality a lot of the time. It's for people. My sister and I don't speak. It's definitely a very painful part of my life. And I hope it's not forever, but it's for right now. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Ready for a different take on Formula One? Look no further than No Grip, a new podcast tackling the culture of motor racing's most coveted series. Join me, Lily Herman, as we dive into the underexplored pockets of F1, including the astrology of the current grid.

36:40Joe Haden:Lewis Hamilton, Capricorn Sun, Cancer Moon. Wouldn't you know it, Michael Schumacher is also a Capricorn Sun, Cancer Moon. the story of the sport's most consequential driver's strike. We have one man who, upon hearing that he was going to be fired, freaked out, and apparently climbed out the window of the bathroom. And was Daniel Ricciardo's illustrious F1 career a success story, a cautionary tale, or some combination of both? He started getting all this attention, and he maybe started to think, I'm bigger than this, I'm better. And plenty of other mishaps, scandals, and sagas that have made Formula One a delightful, decadent dumpster fire for more than 75 years.

37:19Joe Haden:Listen to No Grip on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In 2023, a story gripped the UK, evoking horror and disbelief. The nurse who should have been in charge of caring for tiny babies is now the most prolific child killer in modern British history. Everyone thought they knew how it ended. A verdict? A villain? A nurse named Lucy Letby. Lucy Letby has been found guilty. But what if we didn't get the whole story?

37:52James Harrison:The moment you look at the whole picture, the case collapses.

37:55Joe Haden:I'm Amanda Knox, and in the new podcast, Doubt, the case of Lucy Letby, we follow the evidence and hear from the people that lived it to ask what really happened when the world decided who Lucy Letby was. No voicing of any skepticism or doubt. It'll cause so much harm at every single level if the British establishment of this is wrong. Listen to Doubt, the case of Lucy Letby on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. China's Ministry of State Security is one of the most mysterious and powerful spy agencies in the world. But in 2017, the FBI got inside. This is Special Agent Regal, Special Agent Bradley Hall.

38:41Joe Haden:This MSS officer has no idea the U.S. government is on to him. But the FBI has his chats, texts, emails, even his personal diary. Hear how they got it on the Sixth Bureau podcast. I now have several terabytes of an MSS officer, no doubt, no question, of his life. And that's a unicorn. No one had ever seen anything like that. It was unbelievable. This is a story of the inner workings of the MSS and how one man's ambition and mistakes opened its vault of secrets. Listen to The Sixth Bureau on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Love it.

39:25James Harrison:Let's go. We're going to get to the super chats that we missed from yesterday. Covenant Life is right here. Five hours. She says, I hate to say this. I believe the Browns will get the weapons needed and be contenders for 2026. Now, let me go throw up. Why would they ain't go get nothing that they need? They ain't even got an offensive line. We already started signing an offensive lineman. Don't even trip. Covenant Life is hip. She's smart. She know. Great call, Covenant. We letting this go. Look, look, just chill. No. Just chill. It's going to start happening. You're going to see. You got Covenant Life again.

40:01James Harrison:$20. She said, Debo and Joe. if there were a reunion game to play, not flat, would you suit up and what team would you like to go up against? I would love to see Troy and you on the same field against the Ratbirds. The Ravens. She called them the Rattings. It's the Ratbirds. What a game. Joe, I'm going to tell her the truth. Because I am not putting on a uniform or a suit unless I got a good 12 to 15 months of training, head start. I need all my people. Not flag. She said a real game. Not flag. Oh, hell no. Cover it. You trying to get people hurt out there. Listen, man, I'm going to tear something up off the bone.

40:54James Harrison:You know how many hamstrings and everything will be blown out there? Dudes just can't just come off the couch thinking it's sweet get up to full speed when is the last time a regular person just get up to full speed you know i'm saying you don't do that you'll you'll pull something so i ain't gonna lie to you brother i can't even i can't even remember the last time

41:19James Harrison:i competitively full out had to try and sprint to beat somebody like I do the 75 the stride nah I ain't doing that digging I just raced my kids and they still not old enough yet so they still 7 and 9 so I can still get I don't even got to really get up to get up to the speed yet I'm racing them from the bus and then I'll know probably when my boy he's 9 I say when he get about 15, 16 then I get about 40 then that might be when we start getting a little closer. I'm going to tell you right now. I ain't racing my kids no more. Even though. Yeah, they get you out the way right now. I don't know. You'll blow a hamstring.

42:06James Harrison:I'm going to blow a hamstring. You would. The tire is going to fall off. The tire is going to fall off. I'm going to blow a tire. Do you think you could beat them?

42:17James Harrison:No. You can't. And if you're thinking that hard, you're going to blow it. You're going to blow a hammy. I'm willing to go down. I'm willing to go down as long as you give me the time to train, Joe. I got to get all my people back in line, Joe. I'm going to have to spend about$250 ,000,$350 ,000 just to race one time. Oh, man, it's not worth it. It's not worth it. It's not worth it. I got to win, Joe. I got to win, Joe. I can't let it. You're about to come in at bionic legs and all. 350. 350's crazy. Oh, man. I'm telling you, I'm going to have to do something, man. Coming to life is$50. She said, Debo, please explain your matchups with Joe Thomas.

43:00James Harrison:My husband tried to offer me a necklace for your jersey. I told him I would purchase one. He's pouting like a baby. Even my teddy bear named Troy that has a 43 onesie is tripping. Thank you. The matchups with Joe, Joe Thomas. Joe was a very, he was very technical. He had good feet and he was able to withstand a bull rush. So that was the big thing with Joe is he had good feet and he was able to withstand a bull rush. So that's why it was, you know, it was difficult to get sacks on him when, you know, he was when he was when he was actually, you know, in his prime and doing the things that he did.

43:42James Harrison:I think only and maybe what time did he come in? 2006? 2007? 6 or 7. Yeah. 6 or 7. So, yeah, that's what made him difficult. But other than the pass game, that was it. Like, run game, I ain't really worried about nobody on the run blocking. Like, that's what I do. Like, ain't no running this way. Ain't no coming around here. All that other stuff. Like, y 'all take that over there. Y 'all used to say, hey, man, y 'all take that shit over there to Woodley, man. Y 'all go ahead and run over there. Ain't nothing happening over here. I love it. I love it. You gave my man Joe T's the respect, the bull rush.

44:24James Harrison:Oh, no question. Dude, dude, I would literally, I would literally, I would bull rush this dude for like a whole half or three quarters, bro, and just bull rush, bull rush, bull rush, and hoping that he goes set heavy. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, so what I would do is I had a bull rush and I had a bull rush that looked, it looked like I was going to bull rush, but I wouldn't bull and I would slap, grab your arm and hook around. Yeah. It was the same move on the same step. So if a guy, after that first bull rush, he would, the next time he would set heavy and hard, I'd be like, okay, I got him.

45:05James Harrison:Joe wouldn't set heavy and hard that often. So that's why it was hard. Yeah. Because he was able to whip. Taking that bull rush without having to set. He was able to whip, right, without having to set heavy and hard. Come on. So when you get a guy like that, like, I'm just like, I mean, you have, I think, one time where he's talking about it and a thing, and he's like, he's just, you know, he's just head-butting me, head-butting me, head-butting me. Like, that's what I'm doing. I'm just getting you set so that you, at some point, you're going to get tired of me hitting you in your head. Boom, boom.

45:36James Harrison:Boom, and you're going to be like, uh, let me stop. As soon as they do that, I'm, uh. That's that, you sound like that Marshawn, you keep hitting him in the face over and over. over again. That's a real thing, bro. You keep hitting the man in his face repeatedly, he's going to eventually start folding and start doing different things and that's when you setting him up the whole time. But, yep, that's wild. Oh yeah, for sure, man. That's just what it is, brother. We got another one. We got American Assassin 001,$10. He said, what do you guys think about going out and signing Tyler Boyd? He is a Pittsburgh native and played college for the Pitt Panthers.

46:21James Harrison:What do you think of that?

46:26James Harrison:What year is it for Tyler? School, man. He's been in the league. Let me check. How long have he been in? Tyler Boyd, he 31? I'm not mad at it. I like Tyler. I like him, but I just I'm trying to get us younger. I'm with you we're at that point where I think we need solid play for sure but not for us yeah for sure Covenant Life back $10 she said I just broke out in highs here in Joe talk about the Browns just when I think it's all well shake my head Debo is held Debo is held today I'm weak the internet don't even want to hear about the pound puppies puppy pounds sorry I'm gonna let cover the cover I'm gonna let you slide they do it's all good my internet my internet went out it zapped out for a second I mean it's just like it's kind of like the team used to pay for it they just zap out like things seem to be going like well and all of a sudden they just zap out Cover the life, man.

47:41James Harrison:She said earlier exactly what she felt. Oh, it makes me sick to my stomach. The Browns are going to be so good this year. Now she won't come back and say that. I'm believing the first one covered it. Oh, well, I'm going to come back with another. Covenant came back with another one. $10. She said, Joe's necklace is blocking his connection. Debo, where are your dogs? We need to... She said, we need to look and see. Joe Peter really had a problem with you. Are you a dog person? Be careful with your response. Who is Joe Peter?

48:23James Harrison:Oh, you Joe. I'm a dog person. You a dog person? Oh, yeah. I had dogs when I was a kid. You're not a dog person. I'm not the craziest dog person. I don't not like dogs. If people have dogs, I'm all for it. You're scared of dogs, though. Right now. Yes, I got chased by dogs. I got bit by a dog. So I definitely have - Yo, I got chased by dogs. I got bit by a dog. That don't make me dislike all dogs. I just didn't like that dog. Why do you keep saying that I dislike dogs? I don't say that I dislike dogs. Well, you like mutts. No, I'm just saying. Like browns. Like browns. Dog coms. Like those dogs.

49:03James Harrison:D-A-W-G. I love dogs so much. I love dogs so much that I don't have enough time to give it the care that the dog deserves. I got these children that I'm trying to handle. I'm raising my kids. The kids can take care of them. The kids ain't doing nothing. When I got the dogs, I was walking the dogs. I was feeding the dogs. And they want to talk about they want to. You got rid of the dogs. See, there you go again. I got the dogs and I gave them to a better school family. Answer the question, Lord. Did you get rid of the dogs? Yes, I did get rid of the dogs, but to a good family. Not just anywhere.

49:44James Harrison:A good family. Oh, just because you didn't throw them out in the middle of the highway in a trash bag, you feel like you're justified. You're feeling justified, huh? I gave them to a good family. I just wasn't responsible enough and man enough to take care of little puppies that needed me.

50:06James Harrison:All right. All I can tell you is this. People just mad at me. If you have a dog, guess what? I love you. Hopefully I love your dog. Hopefully his training don't come up here and try to bite me. You got a cool dog? What's up, dog? You good? Boom. All right. I come pet your dog. Woo. If you don't want me to pet your dog, won't pet your dog. Is the dog petable dog, I do it. But be mad at me because I'm not just walking around feeding and taking care. I'm just... I love a dog so much that I know he needs that tender love and care. And I just got that. I'm moving and shaking. I'm running around. That's crazy.

50:43James Harrison:I'm trying to do Deebo and Joe. Dog right here, right there. Yeah. You training. Dogs need training like children. I already got two kids. Oh. Oh. And I'm training and I'm loving my children. So you love the dogs so much you couldn't have them but not the kids. I gotta have my kids. Yes. Yes. My children. My children. Am I messed up to say that I love dogs? I thought you loved the dogs so much you just couldn't do it. The world's so crazy that you can't love your children more than dogs? I'm just saying you said you love the dogs so much you couldn't, you know, you just, I know it. Like, Joe. They didn't come from, they didn't come from my wife.

51:24James Harrison:They did not come from my wife. That is not my seed. Oh, so I got to go tell Sarah that she needs a dog. Oh, I'm going to send a dog over there. Did this really just happen? Did the Chiefs just get Kenneth Gainwell? Because if they did, if they did, that's how you make moves. What they give me? They got Kenneth Walker, brother. That's what I'm saying. Kenneth Walker, the running back. I thought you said Gainwell. No, no, no. My bad, my bad. Chiefs got Kenneth Walker. That's fire. That's what team... You know what? Chiefs doing what they... All they do is take time. He's going to come back. Travis is going to come back.

52:08James Harrison:Yes. Travis is going to come back. Because he's like, oh, my team wants to win. They're going to get people like Gainway. I mean, like Walker. Walker, yeah. You keep saying Gainway. I love Gainway. His game is so good. Yeah, you're trying to throw him away and give him away. I'm not throwing him away. I'm trying to put him on a great team. I was trying to put him in a great situation. Listen, what I'm trying to do is get him back. Hope there's nobody getting him back. And we can get him back. His selfish desires around here, Joe. You funny. You funny. You don't even get... Yeah, I got to remember that.

52:46James Harrison:I try to stay objective and give it a thing. I'm just telling you, I can see it from both sides. You know what I'm saying? I want him to go get that bag. The brother want me to go get that bag. There's still a fan want me to go ahead and make sure he stay here. And see, that's the problem with a fan and a brother. A fan only want what's good for the team. They don't care about the actual brother. No, because he's a piece of their team. All puzzle pieces. All puzzle pieces. All people replaced. A little dollar sign. Hold on. salary cap. Get him out of here. Hey, he hitting the cap? Get him the cap.

53:29James Harrison:What's that boy's number? Get him out of here. How much we save? 13? Get him out of here. Get him out of here. Come on, some space to the cap. That's the man that won't get. What we need? 15? You had dinner with him the other day. Get him out of here. Bump that. Bump that cap space. Yes. Look here, brother man we want to thank you guys for joining us on this episode of dbo and joe please make sure you like subscribe and download the show we'll be right back here tomorrow top of the show with le 'vion bell we're gonna find out what the really real was you know what i'm saying yo yo we'll be here tomorrow catch the same time same place with el bell let's get it yo

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55:05Joe Haden:Bachelor fans hated him. If I could press a button and rewind it all, I would. That's when his life took a disturbing turn. A one-night stand would end in a courtroom. The media is here. This case has gone viral. The dating contract. Agree to date me. But I'm also suing you. This is unlike anything I've ever seen before. I'm Stephanie Young. Listen to Love Trapped on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Nancy Glass, host of the Burden of Guilt Season 2 podcast. This is a story about a horrendous lie that destroyed two families. Late one night, Bobby Gumpright became the victim of a random crime.

55:48Joe Haden:The perpetrator was sentenced to 99 years until a confession changed everything. I was a monster. Listen to Burden of Guilt Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Ego Woda is your host for the 2026 iHeart Podcast Awards, live at South by Southwest. Hello, is anybody there? Raised by a single mom, Ego may have a few father-related issues. Are we supposed to talk about your dad? Her podcast, Thanks Dad, is full of funny, heartfelt conversations with actors, including fellow SNL alums, comedians, musicians, and more. About life and their wonderfully complicated relationships with their fathers.

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