Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Matthew Stafford Signs Extension + Joe Burrow & Bengals Improves Roster

24:14James Harrison:Yeah. Like, I couldn't believe it. like it was the craziest thing ever like cold cuts and all that i don't know i don't know if you look at it you got like the same way we talk about the field all the time is the same way like ownership if they really looked at it like as people what do i need to make my investment better if i'm giving these dudes the good food instead of giving them subway it's the it's the little things of where organizations are taking care of nutrition making sure they're getting them the shakes making sure they're taking whatever kind of supplements whatever they need, you know what I'm saying?

24:46James Harrison:Individualizing it. And that's going to take more time and that's going to take more money because everybody isn't built the same. You don't need what I need, you know what I'm saying? So the quicker that teams are really starting to understand, all right, turf is more, grass is more expensive, but it's going to help our players, their bodies, you know what I'm saying? What do we need for food? We can just get in these cold cuts, you know what I'm saying? They can have them things running in. Or can I go specifically, my linebacker here needs to lose a little bit of weight. Can I get them on a program where I have somebody specifically taking care of them?

25:16James Harrison:That's going to cost more. But in the long run, you're going to get a better version and the best shaped person of your player. So it's like, are you going to go and go that extra mile where it's like just knowing? Because the dudes, when you come into the league, you don't know what you don't know. They're giving you the fools and you only to meet dudes like you, to meet dudes like Cam, that actually have people outside the joint that are taking care of you, really doing the dry needles, Really making sure like, nah, I got this person for you. This masseuse is going to make sure you get right.

25:43James Harrison:I got this person. I got this chamber, the hyperbaric. We're going to go in there and get right. Like until you find that, the quicker if the organization comes in there and it already has. As soon as these rookies come in, we got nutritionists. We got the real dry needling people. We know what this is going to do. And even if they start taking care of some of this stuff, it's, oh, yo. Yo, I got you. Oh, okay. It gets a little expensive. So as long as they start taking care of that, like just knowing when you do stuff with your investment, it can really you can get it on the back end. Mm hmm. Yeah.

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30:21James Harrison:That's, you know, a risk. For hamstrings, calves, quads, all that other stuff. When I was playing for the Steelers, we would take that little test and G would have like, you knew if your hamstring was about to get ready to, you know what I'm saying? Like, they were like, I know your hamstrings are, there's something up with it a little bit. And they would just start working on your hamstrings. Like, your hamstrings are a little weaker. So we need to start working on them. I remember that was something that I had when I was there. That Gi was like, no, something's up with your hamstrings a little bit.

30:49James Harrison:And I would just start working on my hamstrings more. Yeah. It's just all, like I said, it's all dependent on what your deficiency is and what that imbalance is. Usually they use, like, a machine. And you're using, like, where you do hard, quiet work and you do hard hamstring work. And you measure the difference. between the two, you know, through that. And then you try and, you know, get that difference to where it's less than 10%, preferably less than five is the case. But, like, that's considered, like, perfection. Anytime zero to five is considered perfection. Ten is when you start running into issues.

31:24James Harrison:And then anything over that, it ain't about when. I mean, it ain't about if, it's about when. It's about when. When you go pull it. the reigning NFL MVP Matthew Stafford is officially tied to the Los Angeles Rams for the next two years after the Rams announced they have extended Stafford's contract bro Stafford's contract extension is for one year 55 million the deal is worth up to 60 million with incentives Stafford now has two years and up to$105 million remaining on his contract with the Raiders, says Schefter. Yo. Yes. I told you that boy won. Yes. This is exactly right. That's exactly what's supposed to happen.

32:24James Harrison:Market, he's balling. His team is doing great. that's basically say a 105 is averaging around 50 55, 56 a year you know what I'm saying so solid they picked up Simpson right? you said what? they picked up Ty right? yep yeah they picked up Ty but you know what it's yours Ty is in the A-Rod situation it's yours in two just look watch and grow watch and grow learn from him Learn from him. Man. Learn from him. Hey, man, take everything from him. I'm telling you. Literally. You a tick. You're going to be learning from him. You're going to be learning from him. Fatten up on him. For sure. Get all the information you can, baby.

33:09James Harrison:Because that man Matthew Stafford, though, bro, deserves every dollar. He's throwing the ball amazing still. I think he's going to the hall. Nothing. Like, no reason. When they lost, I think their defense kind of let them down. It was not because of anything on the offensive side of the ball. I've been told you the defense is going to have some problems. No, no, no. That's what I'm saying. So with this contract, with this extension, making sure he's going to be there for the next two, right up there with the highest paid quarterbacks, deservingly so. Like when you see that Dak's making 60 and he just got the 55 extension, the numbers are what the numbers are.

33:42James Harrison:So it's just up there. That's what it is. Matthew Stafford, one of them dudes, he didn't go reset the market. He's under, you know what I'm saying, under what the highest paid dudes are making. And so, I mean, it is what it is. How is he under what the highest paid dudes is making? Do he up there with them? No, no, no. How is he just under that? He's at least got a year for like 60 with an extra five on top. That's what I'm doing. That's what you do when you are Matthew Stafford and with the Rams. It's no, what are we going to be sitting here messing around with the five mil? Where it's like, end of the day, I'm good.

34:17James Harrison:You guys are good. We're in a great situation. I don't know about it. But out there in L.A., man, hell, that's, you know. There you go, Debo. That's Texas. No, he's Texas, Joe. Come on, man. That 55, he's Hall of Fame. He and Texas, Joe. He's chilling. You and Texas do not get along. I feel you. But just with Matthew Stafford being a vet, being a baller, it's not. When you say he could have tried to go crazy and go get, what, 61, try to like. I mean. You know what I'm saying? Show him a little bit of respect, man. Gave him 58. $55 million extension. That's what I love about him is like, what are we talking about here?

34:55James Harrison:Like, with that 55, what you going to be able to do different that you couldn't do with that 60? I hear you. That's five mil. But now we can go, maybe we can go get you another beer. In California, it ain't much. You're right. It ain't much, D-Bo. There might not be no more than a mil and a half. Yes, man. Let that man live. That man, Matthew Stafford. Shout out to him. Shout out to the No Look Pass. Shout out to him getting drafted and still balling. He was doing it with the Lions. and now it's not his fault. It's not his fault. Let me go back to that. Now that I was just, that just refreshed my head.

35:27James Harrison:Joe Burrow. Burrow. Oh, Lord. Yes. What you got for? See what Stafford did. Got a bout at Detroit. And went and got him one. Almost had two. Joe Burrow, get out of Cincinnati. You don't want to die that. You don't want your career to die that. Mm-mm. No, sir. I don't want it for you. It hurts my heart to think about it. Nobody does. It hurts my heart. I feel it. Nobody wants that for them. Such talent. Talent. Sitting there, wasting. Cincinnati. Bungles. We got this year. This year is the make or break, brother Debo. Listen. After we go get this one. Go upstairs, talk to Mr. Brown, and you tell him.

36:24James Harrison:You got to go. Man. Got to go. There's no need. There's no need. I don't think if we go get it, I don't know if Joe Burrow going. He probably just know he's that man. He probably want to do it himself. Dude, what are you talking about? Look at Mayfield. Who, Baker? Baker. in Cleveland said, hey. Look, Baker had to go. Baker had a whole different trajectory. I'm just saying. Nobody's beating down Baker. If he was still being in Cleveland, he would have still been.

37:04James Harrison:Oh, oh, oh, okay. I know. If he was in Cleveland, that would have just been that. You know? Hey, sometimes. Nobody would have been that. Although the organization brought you in, that ain't who go. be your dancing partner all night. You know? Sometimes you gotta switch partners if you want to get that trophy. Hell, look, LeBron did it. LeBron James? LeBron James? He had to. A couple times. Look, they weren't getting the pieces around him in the calves at first that they needed and he had to go there and learn how to get the ship. Went and got it done with Dwayne Wade than them, then came back.

37:48James Harrison:And then we had the pieces. They got Kyrie, Kevin Love, and everybody. Squad. That's what I'm talking about. This ain't going to be the first time. But, like I said, we got a year. You got time to think on it. We going to help you with that decision when we play a couple times a year, for sure. but you know you don't want to end up in a situation you know that you're already in and not being able to get back to where you went you know went there first, second, third year or something like that now you may not never see it again everybody thinks it's easy to get back they don't realize how much work it took there and how much luck and sacrifice and all the pieces that go with that you know to get there Look at the Cavs Yeah what about They thought they had it With 740 left And they didn't There's no way you could run this back around To the Cavs losing That game What you mean It's the same thing Oh and then Baker Mayfield bro Baker Mayfield was balling for the Browns Went to the playoffs and won We just should have signed to him to a little extension.

39:09James Harrison:He would have been fine. No, he would have been there losing again. We won to the playoffs. He was on a nice trajectory. And we ended up picking. One playoff game in the last 30 years, Joe. Brother, but Baker Mayfield, he wasn't there for 30 years. During Baker Mayfield's time, he did what he had to do. We was on an upward trajectory. And then we ended up thinking that we was going to do the big thing. And you started grounding. No, that's what I'm saying. but it has nothing to do with Baker Mayfield. We've assessed him to a little bit longer. It's synonymous. They go together. Cavs won the ship.

39:45James Harrison:Cavs won the ship. True statement. Cavs got that ring. I get you that. I get you that. Yeah, so, you know, we're just trying to get to, you know, we right there, we Eastern Conference Finals. But y 'all doing y 'all best to show them how to lose one. You just showed them how to lose one. You had an opportunity. Game one was... You kicked in in the finals. You don't even get that opportunity anymore. It's over with. No way. Nixon four. Nixon, what you saying? Nixon four? Nixon four. You crazy out your mind. They go close it out at your place, popping champagne bottles in y 'all locker room. Oh, and that's going to be...

40:22James Harrison:The game four is on Monday, and that's the game I will be at. So you telling me we about to lose... You telling yes. Saturday and Monday. I'm going to talk to you before game four on the show. You said you're going right? And we're going to be two. You said you're going right? I'm going to the game on Monday. Okay. Game four. Okay. That will be I don't Joe. What? Wow Joe. You think like that is going to crush you. Do you want me to go with you? like you want me to show up after the game to be there for you i will do that because it's only a hour and a half drive i will be there because i know you're going to be crushed you may not even be able to walk like i will have to carry you like the way you say your soul is hurt the only thing i'm telling you and watch them get they support for the show comes from public the investing platform for those who take it seriously on public you can build a multi-asset portfolio of stocks, bonds, options, crypto, and now generated assets, which allow you to turn any idea into an investable index with AI.

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44:58James Harrison:Face kicked in at home. You see them boys popping bottles in the locker room. I can't. You want me to come there? honestly honestly honestly no not with this energy honestly no i'm there in support of you okay are you going to be wearing calves gear you're going to be supporting joe i'm coming after the game to get you out of there you go be in a ball a heap of lump or nothing but just tears and sorrow this man's funny i'm going to know more how i'm going to feel after game three because of... Okay, after game three when you lose, you might not want to show up to Monday. You might want to get sick.

45:41James Harrison:That's going to... You don't want to show up for... After you lose game three, Joe, don't go Monday. It's going to be a start to a horrible week. It takes a while when you're not playing that game to get over this because you relive it. You replay it back. You know what I'm saying? And you got to watch it. You can't not watch it now, Joe. This is what we do. Oh, I'm definitely watching. I'm definitely watching. And just, I'm not going to talk to you, though. How you going to not talk to me, Joe? We got a show. Tuesday. Oh, after the game? After the game, I'm definitely, okay, no. I'm not talking to you after the game three.

46:25James Harrison:Win or lose. I'm just going to talk to you on Monday before game four. Because I don't want to talk trash to you. I just want all of it to be fresh. I want all of it to be fresh. What about Tuesday, Joe? What you going to do Tuesday morning, Joe? Dependent. After y 'all just got popped, Joe. I'm trying to come there and help you. Pull up. Pull up, Debo. Pull up. Goodness, man. Pull up. Pull up. Like, I don't understand what's wrong with you kids nowadays, man. Y 'all know y 'all can't take when y 'all get hurt. It's because I care. You got everything put on. It's because I care. It don't make sense, Joe.

47:13James Harrison:I care. Your kids seeing you moping around. Your wife seeing you moping around. She got to stand up and put the pants on, Joe. No, no, no. He got to say, daddy's sick. He ain't crying over the Cleveland Cavaliers and the Browns. He's a man still. I think. Shut up, man. He's still your daddy. You going to show him some respect. My boys was mad too. My boys' dad, did the Cavs win? No, son. Hey, man, listen. Because it's past their bedtime. They got to go to sleep. Waking up. Dad, did the Cavs? Son. You done put them into a hole, man. And now there ain't no basketball team over here for them to root for.

48:06James Harrison:We rooting for the Cavs over here. We rooting for the Cavs over here. Joe,

48:14James Harrison:if they lose game three, you going to game four. Yeah. For real. If they lose game three, I'm still going to game four. Mm-mm. I got to. But I don't believe in us losing game three. We're going to defend our same. We got to defend our home turf. I'm saying this, but I'm stuck here. Listen to what you're saying. You don't believe it. I do. It's not in your heart, Joe. You ever watch the boys? You ever watch the boys on Prime Man? No, I haven't watched the boys. I haven't watched the boys. To read people's minds to see what they really feel in their heart. If they was reading your mind right now, Joe, they know.

48:59James Harrison:I can hear it. The chat can hear it. The chat can hear it in your words. They can feel it. It's nothing there. They saying, don't worry, Joe. They know you worried. Why would they tell you don't worry if they don't know you worried, if they don't feel you already worried? Hey, man, it's been a rough day today on this side. I ain't going to lie. Joe, is there a reason you're wearing those sunglasses? were you crying all night? I'm a little puffy. Oh my goodness, Joe. Thanks, I ain't cry. I ain't cry. I ain't cry. I ain't that sad. You ain't that sad. You ain't cry. I was just more - Screamed into the pillow.

49:40James Harrison:It was more like - Screamed into the pillow. It was more - Fuck! Ugh! Ugh! Ugh! What the fuck did that? I don't want to want it more than they want. I can't want it more than they want it. Hey, that's what it sound like to me. That's all I'm saying. Hey, Joe. I don't want to want it more. Ain't that what you say to somebody that be asking you about this and asking you about that? Say, I want to do this. I want to do that. But then when it comes time to do it, they don't want to do it. I can't want it more for you than you want it for yourself. I can't want it more than you want it for yourself.

50:18James Harrison:because I done did it. That's what I got to tell. I can't want it more than you want it because it's not for me. I done did my thing. This is yours. I don't think James Harden won't play no defense. You want to go talk to him? That's just what I'm telling you right now. I love the beard, but when I'm telling you this, when I speak on, I say...

50:45James Harrison:I like the beard. Okay. A lot. Okay. I think he has a great offensive game. He can dribble the ball amazingly. The ball handling package is unbelievable. All I need, though, is this. This is what I'm saying. I know you're not a great defensive player. But, coach, don't put James Harden out there on Jalen Brunson anymore. And then, James, just move. Just move. I need effort. I need you to just for me, show me that you want it. I know you want it. I think his beard too heavy, he can't move as fast as he need to. He might want to cut some of it off. No, don't mess with his beard. The beard's fine.

51:25James Harrison:The beard's fine. I don't know. He looks stiff through the neck sometimes when he moves like that. He ain't getting nowhere there. I don't know, Joe. All I know, the games are lit. I ain't even get to tell you. I went out to Oklahoma City the other day to scout the competition. I went to game two. out of Oklahoma City the other day. Mm-hmm. What? Yeah. Got what competition, bro? Y 'all is not getting out of this. I did. I went out there and I saw. Hey, you seen what happened game two. Hey, that man, that man, hey, Wimby can't put that out every game like that. This is what happened. They did a great job.

51:57James Harrison:It's a little bit of coaching. They didn't put the shorter guys on them. They put Hartenstein just to put that body on them. I seen Wimby in person. He's shoemongous. the thing that threw me off was his foot, his shoes about this tall. It's not even how, it's probably about a 23, but his foot about this tall, his shoe. That's the crazy part. I'm like, how's he running around carrying these big boats on his feet? That's what was throwing me off the whole time. He looks, he's standing over everybody, but his feet running around was the craziest part. But Hartenstein just kept laying the body on him because he's light.

52:34James Harrison:He might be victim weight because he's like tall, But once he's get the lean on the... Ain't no way he under 200, Joe. No, no. Man, all right, all right. They say 230 because he's 7 '6". So 230, 7 '6". That might as well be victim weight. That's that mean. You all the way up there. Yeah. 230, like, that's a lot. That's real skinny with it. But he was doing a great job just keeping him out of the paint. So good game. Mm. Good ball. That's a good thing. but that wasn't you scouting. That was you looking at greatness. You wanted to see what it looked like because you had forgot what it looked like after you seen what happened to him with 740 left in the first game, you know, against New York.

53:20James Harrison:You seen what happened to the Cavs, and you wanted to go see what greatness looked like. That's all that was, Joe. You wasn't scouting, man. You know you had a chance to win in this series that you got right now. It's okay, Joe. It's okay. Look here, man. We're going to keep it moving, but we're going to keep it moving. Look here. Hey, we out of time anyway. It's about time for us to go. Yes. What we want to do is we want to thank you guys for joining us on this episode of Debo and Joe. Yep. Make sure you like, subscribe, and download where you get your podcasts. Joe. Yo. We will see y 'all on Monday.

53:53James Harrison:Let's root for these cats. It's going to be what it's going to be. But I see y 'all on Monday. And we out. It's going to be what it's going to be.

54:23James Harrison:We'll be right back.

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