Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Mendoza vs. Shedeur + NFL Combine REACTION, Sonny Styles is LEGIT

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24:39James Harrison:Six five. This is what I'm asking. What is tape look like? O-State. You know what his tape look like. I know his tape look crazy. Okay. Stop playing with me. Okay. You know I went to the O-V. Okay. University of Ohio State. You out here lying to the people. Bruh. Ass. Listen. O-Kate State. The records got burnt up. O-Kate State. When I was there. the record building it got burnt up when I was there. And then I ended up having to go to Kent to finish. But I was there. I was there. Sonny style. All I tell you is this. This combine is ridiculous. Stats crazy. Joe. Bro. What was your combine numbers, Joe?

25:34James Harrison:Man, my combine numbers, man, I had a bad combine. I had a bad combine. I don't like... Joe, what was your numbers? Man, my 40, I had a strain back because I did the 40. Joe, can you give me your numbers, please? Do I got to get the book out and start writing down for this? It was a 4-5-2. 4-5-2. That's what I tried to tell you. I need to give you the preference because I ran it with a strain back, but then I ran 4-3-7 at my pro day because that's my real 40 time. That was hand time. Go ahead. Shut up. So then... I did 225, 18 times. Had about a 35 and a half. And then I did 10, 6 broad. But let me tell you this.

26:22James Harrison:Let me tell you this about the combine. What you want to tell me, Joe? I can't stand the combine. They treat you like cattle. Okay? They treat you like cattle. They run you up and down. You got to do the little dog and pony show. You do all the meetings, all the interviews with all the teams. It was very, very stressful. Okay? And then when I did my bench, I strained my back. But I'm fast. And I knew I was going to run 4-3. So I was like, you know what? I'm going to go ahead and run regardless because the team's like, Joe, you're going to run? You're going to run? I'm like, man, that's what I do.

27:00James Harrison:I'm fast. That's what I do. So I run. I go out there during Debo. I run a 4-5-2. so sad and that kind of messed up my whole head but when I left the combine how did that make you feel? it made me feel really bad because I thought I messed up my draft stock and I'm like end of the day the eye in the sky, the tape don't lie I'm in the SEC I'm guarding AJ Green and Julio Jones practicing every day versus Percy Hartman do y 'all think this is fake news of me covering these dudes Look at the SEC championship. That's me and Julio. Strive for stride. Fade ball, one-on-one. Dig route. I'm on them. You know what I'm saying?

27:40James Harrison:So you used your past to help build and motivate you, make you feel good about your future. Yes. But I say that to say I don't like when teams put too much emphasis on combined numbers. Because they get a mess up. Especially when you ran how you ran knowing that you were in your position. I was stressed. I was sad. Pissed. You think that affected your performance? I think that made me make sure I locked in. I didn't watch SportsCenter for two months. I didn't watch TV for two months. Me and my dad went to the training room, and we were locked in, and I just trained and trained for the pro day.

28:19James Harrison:And when I went out there and had the pro day, it was one of the sweetest pro days. At Florida's pro day, me, Tebow, Dunlap, the Pouncey Twins, everybody out there. Yeah, that joint was jumping. Mike T was out there. That joint Mike T was like this, hey Joe, I ain't going to lie to you. You going too early. I'm going to draft too late for you. I said, ah, my bad. It's all good, Mike T. I might see you in the future, coach. You know what I'm saying? I was talking to folks like that at the Pro Day Debo, so that's when I got my swag back. Who did he take that year? That's when I got my swagger back.

28:52Huh?

28:52James Harrison:I said, who did Mike take that year? Y 'all took Pouncey. Y 'all took Pouncey at 16. Uh-huh. And I went seven to the Browns. You went to the Browns. How did you think that turned out? Who do you think got a better deal on that? How does that make you? You know what? I'm glad everything worked out for the way it did because I went to the Browns and the city showed me the craziest love and I grew up in Cleveland. You know what? I will say that they are some supportive friends. Man, that city showed me so much love. That's why I love Atlanta the way I do. You know what I'm saying? I mean, they stick with y 'all no matter how trash y 'all are.

29:35James Harrison:And it's not their fault. All the coaches, all the different training rounds. I'm walking in there. I'm like this. I'm like this. I'm like, oh, yeah. You know what? I'm going to win it here for sure. I'm going to bring us a championship. You want to know my... That's what I thought. Hey. What's up? You want to know my draft numbers? My combine numbers at the combine, Joe? What? I ain't getting invited. You ain't getting invited. You know why they ain't invite me, Joe? You want nobody to invite me? Because they don't know you. They ain't know. They ain't know. They came and did my pro day, Joe.

30:08James Harrison:And they was like, no, we can't invite him. We invite him. We go go ahead and put him in a position that's going to make him look better than what we got here. I was running a 4-3-5, Joe. I had a 46-5 vert, Joe. You did that on pro day. That was hand time. That was hand time. This right here was electronic. And I was hand-timing. You hand-timed it. I was 11-9 on the broad jump, Joe. You didn't run the 435 electronic. I would have been the shortest and heaviest player to ever do it. You, that is for sure. You the shortest, strongest, heaviest player to do it. That's a fact. But you was not running 435 electric.

30:52James Harrison:I be damned. You ain't let me get out there. Joe. Joe. I was running track, Joe. I was, listen, Joe. I don't give a... I was running a... Listen, Joe, listen to me. I'm not listening to you lying to me. I was running a 10, 6, and 100, Joe, on cinders.

31:10James Harrison:They don't shut up. I knew you was lying. You said that 435 electric. You get out of here. Get out of here. I'm done with you. Joe, they were scared to put me in there. I believe you on that. You the shortest, strongest man, and they were scared to put you in there. They were scared. They were like, we don't want all these records broke. Well, you would have went first round. You would have went first round. They ain't want. Listen. Listen. They ain't want that. They ain't want that. That's what they ain't want. They's like, we can't have nobody from Kent State going at the first pick in the first round.

31:48James Harrison:They done broke the combine sheet. Every record done. What you would have hit on the bench? Honestly, 225 coming out. What you would have hit on the bench? Oh, at least 40. At least 40. Okay, I like that. At least 40. I hit 18 I was too strong Too powerful They changed rules for me Joe I hit 18 I hit 18 National Football League Said hey They hitting too hard Out here They said them boys Hitting too hard They said we got to Do something about that You They trying to make me The poster boy Joe Cause you was trying to Yeah you were Cause you was They talking about Player safety It wasn't about No player safety You bums was trying To get 18 games Back when you did The 2011 Y 'all had that In the frame For trying to get 18 games then And then you went And got the 17 games.

32:30James Harrison:And after you got the 17 games, the guys' pay didn't increase. You said, hey, we know you signed a contract under 16 games, but we're just going to split it into 17 games. Don't get an extra pay. And they're going to do the same thing to y 'all when you go to 18 games, and they're going to split it again because we have, y 'all have, no leadership. That's why you need me. That's what Debo needed to bring that to the NFLPA. Bring it around, Debo, to the NFLPA. Needs you right now. Hey, I'm James Harrison. I'm running for executive director of the NFLPA, and I approved this message. Let's go, Joe.

33:09James Harrison:Hey, Joe, look here. I don't approve this, though. I don't know what was going on. Before I even get started, I don't know what was going on. But the NFL Network cameras caught Aaron Glenn. Oh, my gosh. It looked like he might have been catching the nap. I don't know if we can show that or not, but it kind of looked like he might have been catching the nap. He probably can't show it because it's NFL. You know what, J.A., don't do that to AJ. But he might have been just resting his eyes. Bro, I'm going to tell you one thing. That combine, he was up. Oh, he been there. He been there. Somebody got to give my daughter AJ a coffee or something, or he just needed to take a little quick power nap.

33:44James Harrison:But I know one thing. He's fully in it. That's a man in exhaustion. That's a man that is fighting for sleep. He's sleep-deprived. Okay? And that's why I wanted to see. It's a lot, man. I mean, that's a lot. I mean, that combine is a lot. How many of them fall asleep, though? Was they just targeting my guy? I mean. Did they just target my guy, man? Yeah, but yeah, yeah. Hey, listen, I ain't going to lie to you, bro. I don't know. Listen, listen. I don't know what you got to do. I don't care how long you been up. Whatever you do. You can't do that. You cannot close your eyes in front of them cameras when you are 3 and 14.

34:19James Harrison:Or like a long blink either. You can't even blink long. Bro, that was, hey, it was down. What he should have did. He should have. He blinked. When he was like this, he should have stayed there because he caught the camera looking at him. And what he should have did was just a quick glance up like this and put his eyes back down like he was looking at something. But when he did the switchover, that kind of thing, they were like, oh, yeah, we might have got him. You should have put some food in front of yourself and then thought like he was praying. I could have been looking at something like right there, like I was reading it as it was going on.

34:52James Harrison:I had needed to see. So I go ahead, hit the quick glance up, see they looking at me, look back down, and then be like. Yep. You're or, or, or, or these.

35:06James Harrison:Nah, Joe. You can't do that. You can't do that that far away and make like you're looking at the combine, Joe. Ah. Dead giveaway. Hey. Hey, you can't do that. Hey, Joe up there watching the combine like this. Like, it's elite. Yeah. And why they only show him? I'm sure it was at least two, three of them up there sleeping doing the same thing. There's 3 ,000 cameras in that joint, man. You got to know when to hold them and fold them. Hey, they locked in on him, though. Why they lock in on him, though? Solo. Man, listen, because they be jumping suites at the Combine. So, like, if you sitting there, you're exposed.

35:46James Harrison:They be jumping suites, camera. Bing, there we go. We got the Titans coach in there. Ooh, okay, bam, bing. Oh, we got the Jets coach over there. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know how that worked. You know, I didn't. Yep. See, I could teach you a thing or two about the combine, and I could tell the shit I told AG, head on the swivel. Head on the swivel. The Netflix, John, did you think? You think this is a big deal or no deal? No big deal. I ain't going to lie to you, Deebo. It's definitely not a good deal. Because, like you said, it's optics. It's optics. I don't care how tired you are. Like, in meetings, you just can't be sitting there just, boom, gone.

36:21James Harrison:Like, hold up now. You know what I'm saying? Wake up. Stand up. You know what I'm saying? We got to look. We got to look locked in. We can't just be looking. You can't look sleepy. You know what I'm saying? You got to look intensive. You got to keep some ammonia. Got to keep some ammonia in your pocket. Smelling jokes. Pop that thing. Wake up. I'd rather catch me on camera doing that. See? Then you got to think about that. What's going on? I wanted to make sure I was right and seeing what I was seeing because I was so excited. I'm just turned up for these 40s. I just love it. It's just so many 40-yard dashes.

36:57James Harrison:I got to see how high his feet planting and turning. If he's splaying his feet, if he's turning them in, if it's straight heel-toes. The combine, bro, I ain't going to lie to you. I feel like it just shouldn't, they shouldn't take it as serious. Not as serious, I'm talking about it's good for the number. Watch the tape. The tape don't lie. But if it's going to show you like what to confirm what you've seen. I'm just saying. Hey, Joe. Yes. So you did get better numbers after they did the hand time, right? Yes. Way better numbers. Okay. Because I'm really fast. Joe, I'm just asking you a question.

37:42James Harrison:Why are you attacking me? I want to make sure I'm stating this. You keep attacking me. Joe, I'm just making sure I'm stating this factually. So your combine time really didn't hurt you. It didn't. Okay. It didn't. Your tape did the talking. Yes. That's a good thing. That is a good thing. They did a good job. Because I, yes. Because I don't lie. It was one DB that was coming out that I knew. We just need to get him off the board and then it's going to be your boy Joe. And that's why I'm a man. I can admit it. That man, you know Eric Berry? Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Man, Eric Berry, Scary Berry, Tennessee volunteer.

38:25James Harrison:He could have got the Heisman when we was coming out of college. He was so fire at Tennessee. I was rooting. He was, man, he was doing his thing. And I knew one thing. Just let Scary Eric Berry get off. They got picked him at five to the Kansas City Chiefs. And then I was back there like, anybody needs a DB. You can call on Joe, then. Call on Joe. Call on Joe. Call on Joe. And Cleveland called on Joe. They did, man. Joe went there and had him a Hall of Fame career. Oh, beautiful thing, beautiful thing. Never won a playoff game, though, but it was a beautiful Hall of Fame career. Woo! I love it, Joe.

39:04James Harrison:Well, okay. Yep. What? No, I appreciate you. Yep. I don't even want... I'm not even going... Why I feel like you... What's the problem, man? You always got to say... What is the problem, Joe? You always want to say... Tell me what's the problem. Because you want to... I don't even want to say what the problem is, because you're going to say, I'm just stating facts. Never won a playoff game. But you know what? It's just, you always want to say a little something. Joe, I'm not... I don't know why you tripping, bro. You make like, I'm doing this. I'm not doing this. I can't do this by myself. You know?

39:41James Harrison:Mm-hmm. you didn't have a team around you that you needed to get it accomplished. A thousand percent. That's what I'm saying. And I did. What you want me to do? I don't want you to do anything, Debo. I don't want you to do anything, but don't address my playoff record again. I mean, okay? Please. That's what I would just ask. I'm sorry. I didn't win a playoff game. Debo and Joe show. Debo, now we know. Now that we let the airs clear. Could you please stop with that? I do not understand why you get so offended. Like, why? Tell me why. Because the goal of the game, Joe, is you play to win the game.

40:31James Harrison:You play to win the game, Joe. And you won games. Yes. You won games. beautiful thing you won games

40:49but

40:49James Harrison:you play to win ultimate goal is the Lombardis and you got two of them and I'm happy for you my co-host brother Debo and you deserve and I've been you know what I'm saying like I've been thanking the Lord so much for so I've been so blessed

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43:50James Harrison:It's crazy, Joe. It's crazy. But hey, Joe, you got that paper though. You know what I'm saying? Look at your house. My internet, it don't work. Yep. You know? I mean, I ain't got to never worry about having myself in Mexico when something go down. I can't afford to go there. I can't afford to go there, Joe. Ah! Okay. I'll take it. I'll take it. Hey, beautiful thing, but hey, bro, I know we ain't did this in a minute, bro, and there's been a mini-moons, but Joe... What we got? You know, at time of the air, time for Play of Fame, presented by Price.

44:43Joe.

44:45James Harrison:Yo. The combine going on, Joe. That's crazy. We went all ahead and the staff, they cooked up a lineup for 40 projections, dude. Okay. And we and you and I can either choose to play this or fade. Now, you got Caleb Downs. They are saying less than 445. What do you say? That's a good number. I think he could be faster. I'm going to go faster. I agree. I agree. I'm going to go faster. I'm thinking something like maybe a 443, 442, something like that. Okay. That's what I'm thinking. That's what I'm thinking. Then you got Zachariah Branch. They saying below. So we're talking about. Four, three, five.

45:34James Harrison:So he supposed to be a burner. Less than four, three, five. Where you at with that, Joe?

45:46James Harrison:Let me give you some inside scoop. Give me some inside scoop on Burr. The boy ran a 4-4 in high school as a senior. oh he ain't he ran a faux faux in high school as a senior as a senior okay all right better let's do it i'm i i gotta i gotta ride with that let's do it let's do it i gotta ride with that now listen carson in in flippity gym that carson beck is that slow it has to be less at least I'm thinking a 4-7-9. Okay. 4-7. Yes. I think Carson Beck, he's athletic enough for sure. No question. And this quarterback is supposed to be running a 4-4-7. We got Haynes King the quarterback. They saying more than a 4-4-7.

46:45James Harrison:What do you think, John?

46:52James Harrison:Oh, he's definitely going to run over a 4.47. You say he's going to be more, so you think he's going to run a 4.5? Yeah, he's going to run a 4.5. So you go play this? Only one I'm... Only thing I'm hearing you, Debo, is buddy, when you're talking about he run a 4.4 as a senior in high school, I don't... Is that a 4.35 at the combine? Electric? That was high school, dude. That was like four years ago. You telling me? That was at the Under Armour. That was real. Oh, okay. That was Under Armour. Okay. Okay. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait. No, C's a real burner. Yep. Let's get it then. So you go play this.

47:33James Harrison:Let's get it. Yep. I'm going to play this. I'm going to play this. You play this, Joe. I'm going to have to fade it. You going to fade it? I got to fade it. I believe Haynes King. I think he going to pull out there with a 445. I got to fade it. See, you know what? See, I'm going to have to... See, that's why you able to pick and choose. You see what I'm saying? I'm going to play it because... Pick something that you like. The only one... Take something that you don't like. Make your own pick. You know what I'm saying? My man from Ohio State, if he come out there and run under there for that too, he going...

48:03James Harrison:He already going about top 10. You ain't listening. That's what I'm saying. Pick, choose. That's why you do your picks how you want to do it. You can do it how you want to do it. All you got to do is make sure that you go in there, baby. And you know what to do, Joe. Come on. Hey, download. Download the app. Download the app, baby. Deebo and Joe. Hey, listen. And once you download the app, use the code DeeboandJoe to get$50 in lineups after you play your first$5 lineup. That code is DeeboandJoe to get$50 in lineups after you play your first$5 lineup. Let's go, baby. Let's go. Let's go. So I'm going to be watching in the 40s.

48:43James Harrison:I'm going to watch Caleb. I'm going to tell you. He run under that 4-4-5. He made himself that. He already made himself dope because he did it on film like he's supposed to do. And now he just checking boxes. I'm telling you, he go put it out there. I'm seeing... Even if you don't do it. I'm seeing that 4-4-3. 4-4-2, maybe. Want to get to some of these... Yeah, let's get to some of these super chats, babe. We got... Oh, we got a dude back. Makai, what is it? Makai Randall. Makai Randall. For three,$10. He said, Joe, glad you're back home. Thankful to see you today. Hey, Joe. Yes, yes, yes. Can you tell us how you got signed to the Jordan brand?

49:34James Harrison:And was it a good signing? Debo, would you push for your sons to play for the Steelers? How'd you get signed to the Jordan brand, Joe? Man, I had a, my PR crew, they ended up reaching out to Jordan because I was trying to get, I was with Nike when I first came out. Jordan was not rocking with me. It was just kind of hard to get in touch with him. So I played my first three years and I'm like, look, my agent couldn't get me in touch with him. So I reached out to Usain Bolt's agent. I was like, anybody that can get me with Jordan, please. And she ended up having a relationship, went out to Mexico, met with MJ.

50:11James Harrison:and they let me into the brand. So that was how that worked. It worked out real smooth and that was a great relationship. Nike, Nike got so many different clients. Like Nike over the NFL, they just got them, not all the players, but majority of them. Jordan, they only probably had like 20 of us in the league. So we were getting the shipments, the different shoes coming in. They was giving us the Nike account. So we got money on there to get to the family. So that Jordan plug was crazy. yeah buddy I don't know what that's like bro you know I couldn't I couldn't get no shoe deal nothing like that hey Shaq Shaq I need a shoe deal man let me get some of them Shaq bro you definitely can get a shoe deal hey would I push for my sons to play for the Steelers I would push for my sons to play for anybody in the NFL that would be a blessing and I would hope they would be far far greater than I and just destroy anything that I did and they would say you know uh His daddy used to play too.

51:11James Harrison:You know, he did all right. That's how I want him talking about me because my sons play so tremendously way. You know? Oh, for sure. I want to be this, man, your daddy wasn't nothing compared to you, for sure. That's what good fathers are supposed to want their sons to do. Yes. Coming to life back, Fire Allah. She said, praise God, our Joe is safe. She said, we love you and was praying. Thank you, Kyle. James got a little choked up. No, I didn't. Yeah, you did. I was, I was. Hey man, Deebo love your boy, man. I was ready to step in. I know you do, bro. I know you do. You ain't gotta, you ain't gotta tell everybody, Deebo.

51:48James Harrison:I know. I know. I love you, bro. I know, bro. I wasn't, I wasn't, you know, I wasn't, I wasn't go get, I wasn't go get choked up. You know, I had to make some calls. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, no, for sure. You had to make sure. For sure you was all right. Coming to life back again. $5. She said, how can we be a legendary fan tribe with poor ratings like that? Who creates these report cards? So basically nothing has changed since four runs. No, it's changed. It's changed a lot. So the big issue is we share a facility or the Steelers share a facility. Pittsburgh. Half the facility is shared with the college.

52:26James Harrison:And that means half the fields out there are shared with the college. So it's really nowhere to expand right now. locker rooms have went from you know what was used to be 53 players now what is it almost 65 70 players now in there you know it's to the point where you actually got you know lockers sitting in free space just you know because it is no room nowhere to put them bathrooms is nowhere to expand out through um you could try and expand like towards the field but then you can't do that because you end up losing the field so i i just really think the stillers need to be able to get their own facility and it will be able to change you know that aspect of it yeah but other than that it's it's nothing believe me it's a big change from when i came in my rookie year my rookie year joe we used to work out on a outside weight room that was on the field the field used to be a part of it used to be a baseball field so the weight room was planted on the practice Yes.

53:25James Harrison:The weight room was on hardwood platform, just sat down platform on top of the baseball diamond. You go in the tent outside and you know how hot it is. That's how you're working out, bro. Yeah, man. The locker room, metal cage is this big, bro. And there was no AC in there. You used to have to bring the AC and put it in the window. The first year I got there was the first time they actually had central air. because they got those buildings. Those buildings were new then in 2002, 2001, something like that. Like, they didn't have that whole locker room area, none of that. They had none of that. None of that stuff was there, bro.

54:06James Harrison:It was crazy. So you're right. They are doing better. And we said, who's creating the report cards? Ain't it the players? Yes, sir. Yeah, the players are creating the report cards. Yeah, I mean, so they know. Most of these report cards have been accurate. Like, you see what it is. And I think some other teams make other teams look bad. Because when you got teams that look like the Ritz Carlton, then you got teams look like, you know what I'm saying, a little Motel 6 jump. It's just, it's like, they're not trying to knock Motel 6, but I'm saying there's different classes. There's reasons why there's five-star hotels, and there's reasons that there's Motels.

54:42James Harrison:Yeah. Yeah. We got Covenant Life back,$20. Said, Debo, I saw a clip where RC said he would tackle Derrick Henry. Henry was looking at him like it was a joke. I believe RC would one hitter quitter his ass. What'd you say? 2008 Steelers defense. All should receive a goal. Hey. I ain't going to say he go one hitter quittering, but he damn sure will stop him. Yes. 100%. Yes. I'd be catching on that, on that cut. And he just now getting square. RC got a full head of sting. Yeah. I think he might. He might get him to drop to a knee, come out a play or two. Depending on the angle, depending on the time.

55:28James Harrison:He's coming with that. He's coming with it. He don't care. Don't care. He's going to put himself to sleep, too. Hey, no question. He's going to be too little sleep. I tell everybody this. To put somebody to sleep. You got to be willing to put yourself to sleep. You got to be willing to go to sleep. A thousand percent. I'm willing to go to sleep, Joe. Yeah, no, no, for sure. I'm willing to go to sleep, Joe. I was, bruh, I will put myself to sleep. I was ready for it. No question. Not in the bag, but that's what you got to live. We got Covenant Life back again. Covenant Life, you don't give anybody else a chance?

56:02James Harrison:Covenant Life, we appreciate you. $50. Covenant Life. She said, country club Will Howard needs a chance. He's a baller. As the road tie fan, Ty Simpson is okay. He really didn't have a great, he really didn't have great targets, but Will Howard is the truth. If we're going to do anything, get a veteran like Rogers and keep it moving. Howard, please. I agree. But if we keep Rogers, we won't see Will. That's the only thing. If we go get a vet, they're like this. Okay, we're getting a vet to steady the ship. I'm like this. We don't need a vet to steady the ship. We need to see what Will gonna do.

56:41James Harrison:We gotta see what Will. We gotta go get somebody else that's gonna be a dog because there's no steadying of the ship. That's just basic. Like, no, we need to get that offense back popping. If you're getting it moving, like. Because you're never giving him an opportunity. I don't see Aaron Rodgers coming in there and saying, oh, hey, I'm going to come in and be the backup just in case Will doesn't work out. I just don't see that happening. So I think we're at a point where, you know, we go see what's going to happen, sink or swim. him and that's gonna be i mean that oh shit so hold on yeah but rogers come dude he's not gonna get a chance so we won't even see we'll see we'll be sitting there wondering what happened unless you know something happens and you know rogers can't go out you know i don't wish injury on nobody so i don't want to see that happen or have that be the circumstances of which you know we get a chance to actually see him yeah i don't want it to be in because a rod is a i-ard coming to light back again.

57:44James Harrison:She said, Joe. Oh, so I go. She said, now you say, can I see the jersey you're going to send me? And when can we begin to purchase Debo and Joe hoodies, T-shirts, mugs? I actually like the jersey you have on, Joe. Oh, thank you. You know what I'm saying? AI, Allen Iverson. You know what I'm saying? Finals, Joe. You heard what she said, Joe. Yeah. She want to see the jersey, you going to see him, Joe? That's going to take me a little, you know what I'm saying? I got a little square foot. It's going to take me a minute. I got to go downstairs. Oh, my house too big. Oh, my. Hey, his house too big.

58:23James Harrison:Sorry. Cover the light. Hey, if I reach here, I'm going to hit the kitchen. If I reach here, I'm going to hit the living room. If I go over here, if I go over here, I can mess around. You're a liar. You're also in your office. Joe, I'm telling you, my bed is right there. You're also in your office. Joe, everything within arms, bitch. No, I don't want to hear that. Joe, I wake up and I come over here. Yeah, yeah. And I go out that door right there to the bathroom. When you moved into your iPhone. It's only a half bathroom, too. I take a bird bath every day, Joe. I promise you this. I can't even afford a full bathroom.

58:54James Harrison:I don't even want to... I don't know how I'm going to do it because I want to send it. I'm going to send it. I'm going to send it this weekend. Should I go get it? I'm sending mine as soon as I leave the show. It's already ready. It's already packed up. All right, bet it. It's already packed up and ready. I'm going to see what she get first. I'm going to overnight mine. Joe, look here, Joe. It's 1235. Sorry. Oh, we got to get it. But, you know, we got to talking and walking, and that's what happens. Listen, we want to thank you guys for joining us on this episode of Debo and Joe. Please like and subscribe and download where you get your podcast, Joe.

59:28James Harrison:Yo, we will see you back. Guys, telling you right now, I'm back. I'm safe. Thank you for enjoying me. And we will see you here on Monday. No, Joe. Huh? We're going to see him here tomorrow on Saturday. No, I'm lying. We'll see y 'all on Monday. Boy, you had meat dollars. We're out.

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