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Nightcap Podcast Episode Summary: Deebo & Joe - Part 2: NFL Free Agency Winners & Losers
Podcast Overview Title: Nightcap Description: A nighttime sports talk show hosted by legends Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson, discussing the latest in NFL, NBA, and college football with unfiltered takes.
Episode Details
- Title: Deebo & Joe - Part 2: NFL Free Agency Winners & Losers
- Description: NFL legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden react to the start of NFL Free Agency, breaking down the biggest winners and losers.
- Timestamps:
- 00:00 - NFL Biggest Winners/Losers of Free Agency
- 14:05 - Trinidad Chambliss / NCAA Drama
- 22:05 - Play or Fade Presented by PrizePicks
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Key Discussions
NFL Free Agency Winners and Losers
- Max Crosby:
- Rated as a loser by some, but Deebo argues that he actually won by staying with the Raiders.
- Baltimore Ravens GM:
- Considered a loser due to public perception even though he retained players and draft picks.
- Deebo emphasizes the importance of business over public opinion.
- Cleveland Browns:
- Deebo defends the team, highlighting their solid offensive line signings.
- They secured multiple key players to protect their quarterback, Shadour Sanders.
- Pittsburgh Steelers:
- Joe praises Omar Khan for making impactful decisions, asserting the team is in a good position moving forward.
NCAA Drama Involving Trinidad Chambliss
- Eligibility Issues:
- Chambliss faced a potential loss of a significant NIL deal due to NCAA denying his eligibility.
- Discussion revolves around how these issues could challenge NCAA rules and impact future athlete earnings.
Player or Fade Segment
- Both Deebo and Joe discuss upcoming player performances and betting strategies.
- Emphasis on wagering and sports picks for the upcoming games.
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Key Takeaways
- Business vs. Public Opinion:
- The podcast highlights the dichotomy between how players' performances are viewed in the business context versus public sentiment.
- Strategic Moves in Free Agency:
- Signings and trades significantly affect a team's future; successful franchises make savvy decisions during free agency.
- NIL Impact on College Sports:
- Ongoing controversies surrounding NCAA eligibility and NIL deals could reshape college sports' financial landscape.
- Player Performance Predictions:
- The episode ends with discussions on predictions for future games and player performances.
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Conclusion This episode of Nightcap encapsulates the lively banter and deep sports insights characteristic of Deebo and Joe. By navigating through the complexities of NFL free agency and NCAA eligibility issues, they provide listeners with both entertainment and valuable perspectives on current sports topics.
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOBlack Bean Burger Recipe
2:44 to 3:18
Alicia shares tips for cooking with MG-friendly recipes.
“Having MG can make cooking difficult, but over the years, I found some really helpful tools and tips that I'm excited to share.”
NFL Free Agency: Winners and Losers Discussion
3:18 to 4:25
Debate on the biggest winners and losers of NFL free agency.
“So, USA Today, they got a list of the biggest winners and losers of free agency.”
Cleveland Browns Free Agency Moves
4:25 to 6:30
Discussion on the Cleveland Browns' transactions and future outlook.
“But nobody cares about the eye of the people.”
Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agency Strategy
6:30 to 14:01
Analysis of the Steelers' offseason moves and strategies.
“So in two years, you're going to lose all your linemen but one again.”
Tua Tonga Vailoa: The Biggest Winner in Free Agency
14:01 to 17:15
Learn about Tua Tonga Vailoa's significant financial gains in the NFL free agency.
“I know we saying like the Steelers, the biggest winners, right?”
NCAA Eligibility Controversy and Its Impact
22:00 to 28:00
Explore the ongoing controversies around NCAA eligibility and financial implications for athletes.
“Yes, they're going to send a right to you.”
NIL Revenue Sharing and College Sports
28:00 to 30:40
Discussion on the complexities and implications of NIL revenue sharing in college sports.
“Well, when you get to Big Ten, it's a billion.”
Player Fade Predictions
30:40 to 31:57
Analysis and predictions for upcoming player performances in sports betting.
“Time for Player Fade presented by Price Pits.”
Fan Interactions and Team Strategies
33:29 to 35:36
Engagement with fans discussing team strategies and player performance expectations.
“Let's see what we got in the super chat.”
Quarterback Discussions and Team Solutions
35:36 to 42:00
Debate on the effectiveness of current quarterbacks and potential solutions for improvement.
“Everybody just that we have right now, Highsmith, Herb, and TJ, Be elite, and then we're good with our rushes.”
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Discussing the Browns and Shador
42:00 to 43:24
The hosts evaluate the Cleveland Browns' current roster and prospects.
“and then trying to throw shade at Lamar Jackson.”
Division Predictions and Rivalry
43:24 to 45:06
A discussion on the competitive landscape of the AFC North.
“So, Baltimore ain't even in this conversation.”
Interacting with Fans and Celebrity Encounters
45:06 to 46:30
The hosts share humorous experiences with fans and celebrity interactions.
“If I'm in a rush trying to get to a flight.”
Evaluating Draft Prospects
46:30 to 47:36
The hosts discuss which draft receiver could be challenging for defenses.
“They got to be like, look, let's just come over here and chill.”
Minka Fitzpatrick's Career Update
47:36 to 52:44
Discussion on Minka Fitzpatrick's recent moves in the NFL and his skills.
“do you think would be harder to contain, Joe?”
Spiritual Reflections and Personal Stories
52:44 to 54:10
Hosts share personal struggles and spiritual insights from recent experiences.
“Yo, why you say Kyler Murray look like Tiny Tim up in this dress?”
Transcript
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3:29James Harrison:Oh, my. Let's go on and on. You got that? Can y 'all put that list up? Yes. So, I got, when they're saying the biggest losers, what do you mean by Max Crosby? The people who lost in free agency. They're basically saying they didn't. I think Max Crosby, because he's back with the Raiders, I don't think he lost. I think the Baltimore Ravens GM, I say he lost. I wouldn't say he lost. See, that's what I'm saying, Joe. See, you've got to see who you're looking at or whose perspective that you're looking from. Like, did he lose business-wise or did he lose in the frame of how people look at you? The way people look at you.
4:08James Harrison:He just got a player that was good for less and kept two first-round draft choices. He did not lose. I realized these people are in business. They don't care about your feelings. He won. He won in the business, man. But in the eye of the people, he lost. But nobody cares about the eye of the people. So this one, when it says he should be in the winners. He should be in the winners. He definitely don't care. And we know the owner, hey, listen, he will have say but no power. And the Ravens owner said, Lamar, he will have say but no power. That's winners. Shador. See, no, you know, I'm just trying to figure out why there's no talk about my man the Browns.
4:53James Harrison:How there's no talk about - Biggest losers? No, the winners. Huh? Winners. What they win? Look, what they win, we bring it. Did you not see us signing our line? How many? Did you not see us sign our line? How many? How many? The whole line. We good now. We good. We still got it. Right now, we still going to probably draft a tackle and a wide receiver. But as far as offensive linemen are going, oh, yeah, we did our thing. Our line is backstacked. We're good. We're protecting Shadour. Who did we get? Who did we get? Tyson Howard from the Texans. Tackle, two-year, 45. You know what I'm saying? Super solid.
5:34James Harrison:Durable. What we did for the offensive line, too, all these players we signed play a lot of games, play a lot of snaps, have been super-duper healthy, durability. They're not injury-prone. You know what I'm saying? That's one thing that we definitely need. So Titus Howard, Texans, signed him. We got Jenkins, a guard slash center. You know what I'm saying? Signed him for a two-year, 24. Boom. Then we got Zion Johnson, three years, 49 million, a left guard, played a thousand snaps. You know what I'm saying? Straight durability. Do you hear me? We re-signed Tevin Jenkins. Cool. Right guard. How long?
6:15James Harrison:I don't know how long we re-signed him, but don't worry about that. Probably two years. Don't worry about that. And then we're worried about my boy Jones, Dower Jones, our big old tackle. He got hurt at the beginning of the season. He's supposed to be healthy, but we're still going to probably draft the tackle too. What do you got left, two years? I think so, yes. So in two years, you're going to lose all your linemen but one again. What are you talking about? You was like, y 'all don't have nobody signed. And now I'm telling you, we got everybody signed. You're talking about something two years later.
6:43James Harrison:They're not going to be signed. I'm like, Debo, no. See, look at you. No, no, no, no, no. Don't want to hear none of that. Line, settle. Andrew Barry out here doing what he's supposed to do. making the plays that we need. We need line. We always talk about... You ain't got no line. You ain't got no lineman, son. Look at y 'all. Didn't y 'all back out of a deal, too? We're going to block for Shadour. Didn't y 'all back out of a deal, too? When? What are you talking about? Cleveland backed out of a deal, too. What are you talking about? I believe Cleveland backed out of a deal. I could be mistaken, but I want to say...
7:16James Harrison:I think you're mistaken. Y 'all had something in line for your quarterback. What's his name? What's the quarterback you got? You paid all that money until you gave it all that guarantee. Oh, Deshaun. I thought y 'all had something in line for Deshaun, and then after the Ravens backed out, y 'all backed out. I could be wrong. Chat, let me know if I'm wrong. I think it definitely wrong. I think it definitely wrong. I'm thinking it did. Oh, okay. And then let's talk about – so I had to bring up my Browns for a minute. I had to. How do you think our Steelers have been doing, though, with the free agent?
7:49James Harrison:Hey, cooking. What you talking about? That's what I'm saying. I don't know why we – I had to bring up the Browns because you wasn't going to say nothing about them. You was going to let it slide. I had to bring up my boys. Listen, bro. I was talking about the losers. I didn't need to say nothing about this black and gold. We're not losing. We're not losing. We're not over there cooking with grease. We're not losing. The Browns aren't losing right now. We're doing good right now. Andrew Barry's cooking. But Omar Khan? Hey. Now we can get to it. Omar Khan? He's cooking. Omar Khan GMing. Omar Khan.
8:19James Harrison:Omar Khan. Omar Khan's cooking. They let that man go. They said, hey, here, give you your free. Here, you's free. You told him. I said, watch him. I said, watch him. I said, they done took the handcuffs off of him. I said, they done gave him a runway. They done unsnapped the leash. I said, watch him. Everybody want to talk about Omar ain't did nothing. He ain't did that. He ain't have a chance. Now he got the chance. He went and got Rico when you lost game with. So now we got Jalen that we was talking about is underpaid because he deserves. He's balling like he's making$15 million a year. You know what I'm saying?
9:07James Harrison:He made 50 less yards than my man making$15 million a year. So Jalen Warren there, Rico Doddle, baller. Boom. Got the running back. Got the running back situation. Dan, what happened? Then you went and partnered up nephew with Dean. And along with making sure Sante is there. You know what I'm saying? Nice deal. One for four. The prove it deal. Sante going to get more bread than that, for sure. He deserves more. So he going to go get that. We got us to resign nephew. We got Dean. They said, hold up, hold up. They ain't just stopped there. They said, hey. And then. We want to make sure we got enough.
9:44James Harrison:Even though we got enough. Let's restructure cam. We talked about this. We talked about this. We needed somebody to go up top pork chop. We needed another. We needed somebody with DK. You know what I'm saying? And they went and got Pittman Jr. That was the original jump. That gives us the two big body receivers. 6 '4", 225, 230? 6 '4"? Both of them are both physical. And they get real physical. Our tight end is 311 pounds. Two receivers going to be grabbing DBs like this. Our tight end is 311 pounds. Oh, Lord. Oh, Lord. and the other one and you think and if i move six five two sixty himself jaylen warren runs like he's 225 but rico is actually 225.
10:36James Harrison:i'm gonna tell you right now this is what's gonna happen boy we're gonna be lined up about three wide and we're gonna run this ball down your mother be through. You hear me? I can respect it. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Hey, it's still a football round here. Yeah. Uh-huh. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Omar, he did it. He's cooking. He's cooking. And he still got time. Ain't nobody cooking better than that. What are you talking about? I don't see that. Ain't nobody cooking better than that. Ain't the GM on his liquor could get better than Omar. What you talking about? What you talking about?
11:17James Harrison:What do you think is going to be the next move, brother?
11:22James Harrison:Alignment. Offensive alignment. That's what I'm saying, Joe. A lot of this stuff, we can go get some great draft choices. We got 12. is about, what, six, seven in the top 100, something like that, something like that? What we talking about? You know? Joe. Joe, I'm trying to tell you, listen to me. Listen to me, man. It's what we doing. It's what he doing. It's what they doing. They making good moves. Making good moves. I hope we can get PZ Young Porter signed before the season starts. No question, brother. Look here, brother. Who do you see as the big winner and loser of free agency? Player, team, whatever it may be.
12:33James Harrison:Who's your winner? Joe, are you muted? No, I'm listening. I'm trying to think. I'm in deep, deep thought. I'm going with the Steelers. Biggest winner? I'm going with the Steelers, the biggest winner. They want to try and knock us because we ain't get a quarterback yet, and there ain't nothing out there that's worth getting. I'm just saying, so if we didn't get Malik Willis, just because we didn't get Malik Willis, who we have got to been the biggest one? Malik? If we were that big, they would have been Geek. But they'd have been like, okay, yeah, now we got the big one. No, no. Listen, we go sit back and we go see what Will Howard can do and we go wait on Aaron Rodgers.
13:18James Harrison:And if he don't come, we go see what Will Howard can really do. It's still early. It's still early. We still got time. You know what I'm saying? Chips all haven't fell yet. Like, that's the crazy part. The initial wave and everything's good, but there's still so many good players out there. So. You got to get the right ones. It's going to fit your squad and perform well. So all these names, names look good until after the season. That's when you can really, really grade. You know what I'm saying? Because like, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You can start grading halfway through the season. Oh, yeah. You can have the best, the best zone ever.
13:52James Harrison:Like, oh, yeah. We picked exactly who it is. And he'd be terrible. And you'd be like, oh, damn. He wasn't, he was, he was better last year. Like, yes. You got to play. You got to play the game. So everything sounds good. Only as good as your last game. Come on, man. For real. Hey, Joe, but listen to me. I know we saying like the Steelers, the biggest winners, right? Yeah. But I got somebody fighting the biggest winner. Who? Listen. Listen to me now. It's going to sound crazy. But it ain't going to sound crazy once I tell you. Matter of fact, I'm going to tell you who the biggest winner was in free agency.
14:31James Harrison:And they got 99 million reasons. They the biggest winner.
14:38Oh. Tua Tonga Vailoa.
14:42James Harrison:99 million reasons. He the biggest winner. That man ain't got to go to work. You. You are correct. That man ain't even got to go to work. He hit 100 million. To chill. Boy. I ain't going to lie to you, Joe. I just... Oh, man. If I could get somebody like that, just... One... Yep. Hey, Atlanta. I'm available, baby. Let me get... Let me get 50. He ain't landed for the 1.4, right?
15:37No.
15:38James Harrison:Because we got two of them. We got two quarterbacks that went, so it was Kyler Murray and Tua. Kyler Murray won too now, but Tua, the biggest winner. Yeah, no, Tua is the biggest winner because Kyler Murray, he got 36, and Tua got the 99. I've been thinking about that a lot lately, Joe. Yeah. and would I would I care if I was considered a bus with 99 sitting in my pocket plus the other 60 something you already got 70 something I've been thinking about that Joe and I think I would just get off social media I would go I think I might just have to go live without TV and everything this is right here is putting you, you're doing this to yourself.
16:30James Harrison:You're doing this to yourself. You know what I'm saying? You don't have to be here. You had 160, tuck away. Be gone. Chilling. Chilling. And just making sure everybody's good. You know what I'm saying? Taking care. Families, doing things. You be the most gifted. Just, you know, living a peaceful life. Out the way. I mean, the only thing I got to do is give them a real address.
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22:02James Harrison:Yes. They sent a check every two weeks. They're not tripping. Yes, they're going to send a right to you. No, don't even send me the check. Direct deposit. I don't need that. I want to just wake up, roll over, check my... Boom, count. Boom, boom. Good. Did it go? Yep. Of course it went. Green. It's green on there. Appreciate you, brother. Yeah, I ain't going to lie, man. I'm thinking they got a little... I guess they got a little controversy possibly going on over here with the NCAA, Trinidad Chambliss. It says it's an eligibility issue that cost him the QB EA Sports College 27 football game cover.
22:46James Harrison:What is going on there, Joe? You know what's going on there, Joe? So, I'm looking at so he was granted, I guess, an extra year by the state like a judge issued an injunction said he was eligible ncaa said he wasn't so they gave him a uh the judge granted an injunction that would give him an eligibility for a six year this year and the judge concluded that the ncaa look at that didn't act in good faith by denying him away hey leave that good faith word alone bro that good faith is for them okay but the ncaa is still challenging it so it makes his uh and uh his an eligibility it makes his eligibility in question so i guess on march 9th the ea sports reportedly pulled out of negotiations with him on the cover so that killed a huge nil deal for him and now he has the possibility of an added claim that the ncaa cost him money which they did so this is huge because you know the nil money kind of changes the stakes of stuff so you're talking about you know potential millions lost in nil opportunities and then the ncaa would then be able to be sued for claims of lost NLI income because of eligibility denials.
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24:28James Harrison:So how long – so he's trying to get another year in college football. How long has he played? Is he trying – is this going to be like – He got a medical – well, he applied for a medical, I guess. Medical ration. And they denied his medical. But he went to court, in the state court, and the judge was like, you know, we're going to give it to him. Yeah. Okay. So basically what it comes down to, I guess this right here could mess up or not mess up it will challenge the ncaa's eligibility rules you know with the nil you know financial stuff and the antitrust and all the other stuff so the thing that they had was the it's called uh it was house versus ncaa where the lawsuit argued that the ncaa illegally prevented college athletes from earning money uh like for decades you know yeah same thing is it uh They from NIL stuff.
25:21James Harrison:So the NCAA and is supposed to be a couple of major conferences agreed to like a massive proposal. It was like two point seven billion and it would be paying back athletes that covered from 2016 to 2024. OK, that would compensate players who couldn't earn, you know, NIL, NIL money before they changed the rule. Now, that's something that right now, like they're looking at allowing the schools like to pay players. So they would allow the schools to play players by doing revenue sharing. So sharing with the players directly, like each school, I guess they're saying would be afforded just as an example, 20 to 22 million dollars per year for the athletic programs.
26:15James Harrison:programs. Okay. So that payment would come from TV revenue, tickets, you know, sponsorship, all that stuff. And essentially you're just giving college a salary cap.
26:25Joe Haden:Yeah. Now the issue with the
26:29James Harrison:20 million or 20 to 20, whatever that number is, is when you look at old state, I think old state, they already at like 20, 20, 25 just for the football team. Yeah. Alabama Jones is crazy. like 30 something. This revenue sharing thing that they're looking at doing, it would kind of mess up how they've said all along, like college athletes or amateurs and all this other stuff. But if that house versus the NCAA settlement is approved, it could change everything because it would basically take the Big Ten and the SEC conference and make them dog dominant because it would take the revenue, because they would be getting, the players or the athletes would be getting a percentage of the revenue from what it is that the conferences make.
27:36James Harrison:Right. and the SEC and the Big Ten make twice as much as everybody else. You're talking, I think the closest is$400 to$500 million, something like that, and then the SEC is like$800 to$1 billion, and then the Big Ten is like$1 billion to$1.1 billion. So they would just totally, bruh, dominate the market when it came time you know for it being a percentage of like yeah you sec yeah i'm sec i'm florida florida gators we're gonna get that that means we'll be getting that 22 and we'll be getting all the recruits and all you would get more because you would it would like it would be based on a revenue percentage so oh yeah whatever whatever yeah right so you got schools that's that's or or conferences that's For, say,$500 million, that's what they get here at whatever conference it is.
28:33James Harrison:Well, when you get to Big Ten, it's a billion. So now that if they're doing a 40 % revenue share, they got a whole other extra$400. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Yeah, to work with as far as getting their athletes. I ain't tripping on it, but I'm tripping on it because y 'all just trying to stop these boys from being able to make the money. that they could make because now you want to try and put a cap on it. But then when they still – so if they do that, they're still there. They can get paid by the school and they're still NIL too. They can still go get deals from Popeyes or anybody else that's trying to go get them a sponsorship.
29:15James Harrison:But they're going to Florida, under Florida. You're getting paid by the Florida Gator football program. You know what I'm saying? That's not – that's side of NIL. yeah but they're gonna cap it so like you got some guys dude they're making four or five million so they go cap that and say well your whole school got to be under this 20 your whole athletic program got to be under this 20 and a certain percentage obviously will go to each sport depending on how it you know how it weighs out that whole 20 ain't gonna be just football yeah so that four or five you ain't getting that no more even though you may be bringing in you know, seven, 800 % of the income.
29:58James Harrison:Yeah. That's the one part that I don't get either. How like the swimming teams and all that stuff ended the day. If you're in the red, you in the red, like you got to kind of figure out how that works. I think the, like you said, the football team, they're making the most. So it would not be wrong. We still be able to get the most. And we were making the most, you know how we were making the most. We got paid to go get our face kicked in two, three times a year at somebody's homecoming. That's unfortunate, but y 'all was winning to go get that bread. You had to go do it for the school. Hey, we had to go make the money.
30:30James Harrison:You went and did it for the school. Yeah, you get paid a half million,$750, you'll get your face kicked in. To be a homecoming. That's crazy work. Like, come on, bruh. Joe. What's up, brother? You know what time it is. Time for Player Fade presented by Price Pits.
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31:01James Harrison:Yo! Before we get into this here, before we jump into this right here, man. Despite LeBron sitting out, your Tuesday's picks cashed out, Joe. Come on, man. They cashed out, Joe! Come on, bro. That's why I... Hey, Joe! Debo. We still won a little bit. Just a little bit. You know what I'm saying? Just a little bit, Joe. Just a little bit, but guess what? You didn't lose. Yeah. You didn't lose. But LeBron didn't play that kind of thing. LeBron, that's the only reason it didn't go crazy. How little 50 on the$20 bid? How little 50 on the$20 bid? It ain't true. Hey, listen, it's better to have something than nothing.
31:44James Harrison:We're on the right path. We're on the right path. Anyway, brother, look here. Let's see what you got cooked up for your boy now, okay? I'm either go play or I'm go fake. Give me your lineup, Joe. Okay. We got Cooper Flagg here. Rebounds and assists. Versus the land, versus Cleveland. He's going to be very active. They're going to lose, but he's going to get at least probably – he's trying to go get a double. He's going to have a double-double. I don't know. I'm looking at at least seven to eight boards. No, 10 boards, 15 points, and then like five assists. So he going to hit his rebound assist joint.
32:25James Harrison:Okay, he going to be more. Okay. I can see that. I'm on time. Oh, the easy one. That's easy. That's easy. You see the little green face right there. That's easy. Anthony Edwards versus the Golden State Warriors and Steph Curry. I know that's one dunk. One dunk. Anthony Edwards. He can't go get one. They think he's not going to get one. He's going to get at least three dunks. He's going to dunk on somebody disrespectfully. disrespectfully disrespectfully and then Jalen Johnson how dare they try my man for not even a free throw not even a free throw that man got .5 so this one isn't crazy I'm just wanting to stay on the path of winning you know what I'm saying like it's not gonna just know it might not be the craziest but you're not gonna we're not gonna lose we're not gonna lose might not be listen to what Joe said I'm playing this right here baby yes you are make sure y 'all Download the app today and use the code DEBOJOE to get$50 in liners after you play your first$5 lineup.
33:26James Harrison:That code now, DEBOJOE. Not and, just DEBOJOE. Let's go get your money for show. Let's see what we got in the super chat. We got Covenant Light. Covenant Light, stay there. Hey, appreciate you. $5 said, DEBO, sir. Take that medium off and send it to six. No. On my break. One of my braids came out when I took off the one Joe sent. I'm telling you. I might be in concussion protocol. Hey, listen, I can't even get this off right now. I got to get help, bro. I can't. It's not a joke how tight the jerseys are. I would literally watch TJ. I don't know how he gets shoulder pads in here, bro. Put the joint on him.
34:18James Harrison:For real. Yeah, so he can't be out there holding him. It's glued on. And he had a tape on his pads. All that. Yeah, this is wild. This is wild. This is crazy, bro. Like, look, man. Like, how you do this, T? You got. Slow up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know? I appreciate it, though. It look good on you, boy. You know what I'm saying? No question. Who we got here? We got 316 $10 Said good morning Debo and Joe Steelers don't need no 42 old Don't need no 42 old quarterback Hold it down Let Will Cook He won a national championship And we need to trade for Max Put him with TJ So Max who? No, we can't afford that.
35:14James Harrison:We can't afford that. Just let Healthy Highsmith and Herbic cook with TJ. So we can kill the Ravens every year. 9-2-H-O-F. Let's go. I'm rocking with it. I'm rocking with it for sure. We can't afford a match, baby. But yeah, let's just keep it where it's at. TJ come back, perform where he's do his thing. Everybody just that we have right now, Highsmith, Herb, and TJ, Be elite, and then we're good with our rushes. So we wouldn't have to go pay somebody else. No, no. We can get some other things. Lime by, you know, maybe safety, you know. Maybe not lineman. Yeah, okay. Well, listen, let's get on to this next.
35:59James Harrison:What's the next one? Liam987,$10, said, when this batch of Browns quarterbacks eventually fail, Should Cleveland just consider putting a running back under center like the Ravens did with Lamar? Oh, whoa. Shots fired at everybody from Cincinnati. Who is this one? Shots fired at everybody from Cincinnati. Okay. Okay. You, okay, let me think. Okay. That was aggressive. That was aggressive by you. Hey, let me read it again because I don't think you heard it. No, no, no. I heard it. I want you to hear it in the tone that it was probably meant to be said. Go ahead. Go ahead. When this batch of Browns quarterbacks eventually fails again, should Cleveland just consider putting a running back under center like the Ravens did with Lamar?
36:55James Harrison:Like, get you two running backs, one that can throw every now and then. That's what he's saying. I mean. That's so. No. No, first of all, no. Second of all, I don't even.
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41:25James Harrison:Our quarterbacks have been failing, you know, definitely. We got to do better. We got to do better. So when they fail, what should you do? If we fail, we got to go get – we have to pick the right quarterback. We're not getting a running back to play quarterback. We're not putting a running back at quarterback. You sound crazy. You sound disrespectful. You're trying to be funny. No, he's saying like the Ravens did with Lamar, so get a Lamar-type quarterback. Oh, like a running quarterback? I mean, yeah. Yeah, I mean, you're talking about if we get Lamar Jackson, yes. Yes. Yes, yes, yes. Okay. I thought he was really talking about a running back and then trying to throw shade at Lamar Jackson.
42:02James Harrison:I'm feeling shade from this. I'm feeling shade from this. Should Cleveland consider putting a running back under center like the Ravens did with Lamar? But that's what I'm saying. It's all shade. He's throwing shade. Lamar's not a running back. Lamar's a really good quarterback. I'm not saying – that's Liam. 9-0-8-7. Oh, yeah. Liam is funny. Liam is funny. Liam's just trying to get me stressed out. But if we – yes, if we were Cleveland, I would like us to have drafted a Lamar Jackson if these – if Shador doesn't work out, but I think he is. I think that we're going to get the line to protect him and get him the receivers that he can throw it to, a real offense to give him a chance.
42:48James Harrison:Let's see what we can do. Shador, I think he's going to be solid. Baker Mayfield wasn't the worst. Baker Mayfield, I don't think he was that bad. We could have signed him to a contract and we would have just kept things cool. We would have been solid. Won a playoff game. Wasn't looking crazy. Like, now Shador's here. Let's defense still fire. Miles is here. Ward is here. Let's get some receivers here. Junkins is here. We got a running back. Tight ends. Let's go. we got squad so let's get some linemen and should go let me see so you feeling good about the browns right now huh i am i okay so where they fin where you see them finishing in the division joe just in the north see roy man it's either gonna it's it's gonna be between us it's gonna be between us the browns and the steelers yep yep hey that's what i want didn't the ravers just get trey Henderson?
43:48James Harrison:I don't care about that. That's not going to help. That's going to help their pass rush. Cool. Their defense, they need more. So, Baltimore ain't even in this conversation. I mean, they don't have their center anymore. They got a whole new line, Joe. They don't even know each other. What about their line? They got their best linemen. I'm talking about Cleveland, Joe. Stop deflecting. What about Cleveland? The offensive line don't even know each other. They don't even know who they standing next to right now. They are professionals. They're not. Now they're professionals. They're not children. Now you're going to talk about you want to select and go to Baltimore's line.
44:27James Harrison:Now they're professionals. Everybody's professionals, Joe. Yeah, Houston. Yeah. Packers linemen. Yeah, all that. We brought in some ballers. What are you talking about? Bruh. Yeah. I swear, man. Just wait. And it's still early. Everybody went, oh, what's going on? No, just wait. There's still time. Free agency's still moving. We're going to be solid. All right, man. We're going over here. He got an Atlanta Braves symbol on this thing. Nick Kershval?
45:03James Harrison:Kershval or something? 7309? $10. He said he met Deebo. Oh, that's what I'm talking about. He said met Deebo in the airport. asking for a picture. He said, no, sir. I bust out laughing. I thought it was hilarious. He said, I love the show. We need Big Ben to come on the show. Okay. We almost had that happen. Do you remember? Do you remember that, S.D. Bo? I don't remember that. You just do that all the time. Who, me? Pictures? It just depends. I ain't gonna lie. Okay. It depends. If I'm in a rush trying to get to a flight. Oh, if you running late. No, sir. I got to go. No, sir. Especially, you talking about Atlanta?
45:46James Harrison:Atlanta Airport? Yeah. I was definitely jigging and jagging, trying to get through that thing. You know, I don't like having to connect longer than an hour. You know, Atlanta, you know, with a late flight already. You got to get there. There's no time for nothing. You can't stop. You might miss. You might miss your flight. Or it depends. It could be a situation where, you know, you're sitting there and they're like, yo, can I get a picture? And as you look up to see, you do like this right here. You're sitting there, you know, you're on your phone. You make it like you're doing something, whatever.
46:17James Harrison:And you look up to see, like, hey, da-da-da, can I get a picture? And you look around and you see like 10 other eyes looking to see if you go say yay. No, sir. Then you know it's going to be a whole thing. It's going to be a whole thing. It's going to be a whole thing. Okay, I feel you. I'll give you an autograph session. Uh-uh. No, sir. Then they look up to you. They ain't got nothing ready. They got to be like, look, let's just come over here and chill. Hey, you got to just come over there. If you want to get something, just come over there and sit on down next to me. Boom. Sit on down next to me and then do the quick.
46:47James Harrison:Make it as chill as organic. I'm going to go ahead and grab your phone, hit that quick selfie. Boom. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Go ahead. Go ahead. Hey, brother D-Bo, you know what I'm saying? Let me pop. Let me pop real quick. I'm out. Hey, no question. No question. No question, brother. You got to do what you got to do, and you got to do it. I feel it. Diamond, four underscore one,$5. Yes. I said, thank you both for keeping me laughing. With you both being on the defense side, which of the receivers in the draft would you, would y 'all think would be harder to contain? would be harder to contain.
47:33James Harrison:Which draft in the... Which receiver in the draft do you think would be harder to contain, Joe? I'm going to go with Tate. The obvious one. Okay. Ohio State. Yeah, I ain't got to worry about him. He got a little bit of everything. All I ask my corners to do, all I ask my corners to do is when they would go and do that quick five-yard stop, and you're going to get up there and tag me, ask Ike T about this. You always say, hold him up. I'll be running over there. I already knew what you were talking about. Yep, yep. And I'm like this, no, because you're going to blow both of us up. Nope. I told you, you got to do like this.
48:17James Harrison:Nope. I only caught Ike one time. I see you running over there full speed. Nope. You about to hit me too. Uh-uh, uh-uh, man. I'm trying to tell you, I only called I one time. I had to help him up too. I was like, yo, I'm like, get up. Deebo, I can't. I said, you be all right. I ain't going to let nobody come this way. Just stay on the field. I ain't going to let nobody come. See, no, sir. No, Deebo. I know that feeling. I see you, bro. Look, just imagine. I'm holding a buddy up, holding a receiver, and you running over at me, holding him up full speed. Yes. I'm like this. No. You're about to hit me too.
48:59James Harrison:You're about to blow. This is not going to feel good. What should I do? Let him go and move out of the way? No. Me holding him, Debo, for you running in full speed, you're about to hit both of us really hard, and this is going to hurt both of us. My arms. You might mess around. I'm holding him. You might hit my arms. No. Break my wrist. Listen, I don't blindly try and hit somebody, bro. I am targeting where I want to hit. It's not you. I don't run in there blind. Listen, ask Ike. Ask Ike Taylor. One time. And that's because he let the dude go limp. Dude went dead body on him and dropped, and Ike caught him.
49:42James Harrison:And then you hit Ike. I seen it, too. As I'm coming in, I'm coming in, and I'm like right here. You already passed the launch point. You passed the launch point. Listen, I'm right here, and dude dropped dead, and boom. it was only one time ask Ike type man I asked him how many times they got that work though and he ain't feel none of it it's probably you probably okay so how many times they have like 15 times 10 you probably got you probably got somebody good 15 and crack Ike that one time he went one time okay that one time I probably man honestly I probably got made 15 20 only caught my only caught my home only caught your homeboy one that was his fault because he let him go because he let him slip through his hands.
50:22James Harrison:He let him fall. Okay. That ain't on me. You already passed the point of no return. And he let him slip. I'm lost. I'm gone. It's a lost cause. I can't. I'm not rocking with that, bro. That's part of the... See, man, that's what I'm saying. That's part of... That was still... You know what? I ain't lying. I hold him up. When I was... Yeah, I'd be ready. Yeah. Man, you got to be willing, baby. Listen. Covenant Light came through. Four hundred dollars. She said, y 'all check on me. Oh, my goodness. Yes. Yes. Blink twice to me. Murray looked like teeny, tiny Tim up against Justin Jefferson. James, I'm ready for a workout with you.
51:08James Harrison:Okay. I'm not scared. Hello, my Joe. Be easy. There we go. Covered it. Appreciate it. Covered it like, listen, listen. Man, she always coming through. Always coming through. It's crazy. It's crazy. Covered it is. Let's talk about Minka, man. What's up with Minka, man? Where Minka at now? Because I know he just got. They moved my dog. I thought he went to the Jets. Yes, he did. Yeah. He going to be straight. He with AG. He with AG. AG trying to get that defense right. Minka is not the problem. So if you get Minka on your team, that means you're trying to get, you're trying to right the ship. Mink is not the problem.
51:53James Harrison:Mink is trying, if you need a safety, he's one of the best safeties I played with. He's locked in. He studies his tape. He knows what's going on. Oh, yeah, I know that. So, like, I'm all for Mink. I'm just like, sometimes the situation is people are moving him around. But as a ball player. But he's still going with the same contract, though. So they're telling you it's worth it. Man, Mink is nice. They're telling you it's worth it. I would, man, if we could have Mink back for the low, but he's still making it. Mink will get it for the low. I heard what you were about. That's what I'm saying. But if you're not getting Mink for the low, because Mink don't deserve it, but Mink don't deserve it, they have to take no pay cuts or nothing.
52:33James Harrison:Mink deserves to play for the back. He can still get it. He can still get it. So that's why I'm like this. Obviously, I would want Mink, but it would be at a number where I was like, God, I don't think it would happen, but he's a baller, and that's why. Yes. 100%, brother. 100%. Yo, why you say Kyler Murray look like Tiny Tim up in this dress? You know what I'm saying? Listen, man. Covenant life. Your name don't reflect your covenant-ness. Yes. You shoot shots. She comes with flamethrowers all the time. She comes with flamethrowers. She shoot shots. Hey, Joe, listen. I want to tell you, Joe. Listen, I got into a fight with the devil yesterday.
53:20James Harrison:No. Joe, I got into a fight with the devil, Joe. That boy had me punch drunk. I was out of it. I tell him. He almost had it, Joe. Whoa, he was whooping on me bad, too, Joe. And he was whooping on me all day, though. He was whooping me bad. It wasn't until that night I was like, whoa. Like, if I don't do something, I said, ah, I got to get into the word, Joe. I had to go ahead and jump into the word. You know you can't fight it with nothing else but the word. I had to listen to the word, let me know that he was already gone. He defeated. He had me punch drunk though He had me out there He had me gone Joe He almost had me out of there Almost I was ready to fire off Boom and just start going He almost had me But Almost ain't good enough Almost ain't good enough Nope nope nope The word too strong He's able I had to go in there and say, hey, he's already, oh yeah, he already, what you doing?
54:22James Harrison:Get off me. Get off me. Look here, baby. We want to thank y 'all for joining us on this episode of Debo and Joe. Please make sure you like, subscribe, and download. Joe. Joe. We will see you guys on Monday, same time, same place. We out.
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