Deebo & Joe - Part 2: NFL Power Rankings + Brandon Marshall GOING VIRAL

22 Jun 2026 · 43 min · 17 chapters

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In short

NFL power rankings debate focused on the Steelers’ disrespect, plus two side segments: Micah Parsons’ ACL recovery timeline and Brandon Marshall’s viral discipline video.

Guests/backgrounds

Brandon Marshall (former NFL wide receiver; discussed as a father disciplining his son). Joe and Deebo are the episode’s hosts; Deebo is a Steelers fan and Joe discusses football strategy and player recovery.

Key claims

  1. Steelers should be ranked higher than critics claim; their defense can return to top-10 with better technique, alignment, and coaching.
  2. Micah Parsons should not rush back from a torn ACL; longevity and full capability matter more than early returns.
  3. Marshall’s discipline method is framed as “consequences,” but posting it publicly is the main criticism.

Notable examples

  • Steelers: talk of T.J. Watt returning, Nick Herbig/Alex Highsmith pass-rush expectations, and third-down/offense needing to average ~20–22 points.
  • Parsons: report says he may miss at least half the season; discussion contrasts ACL recovery vs. quarterbacks returning early.
  • Marshall: viral clip of making his son run at 2 a.m.; commenters argue about embarrassment/mental health vs. consequences.

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NFL Team Disrespect: Steelers and Predictions

2:58 to 6:45

Discussion on the underestimation of the Pittsburgh Steelers and player expectations.

“The good thing is they're coming from everybody's underestimating them.”

Offensive and Defensive Strategies for Success

6:45 to 9:10

Exploration of strategies for the Steelers' offense and defense improvement.

“And then you telling me with what Baltimore did, move them up three from 14?”

Micah Parsons' Injury Update and Impact

9:10 to 13:19

Analysis of Micah Parsons' injury situation and its implications for the team.

“Shador is going to be able to get a chance.”

Long-term Strategy vs. Immediate Returns

13:19 to 14:00

Discussion on the importance of long-term player health and strategy in the NFL.

“And he said, I think the goal has always been, not right now, but longevity for my career here.”

Micah Parsons' Injury Recovery

14:00 to 16:48

Discussion on the importance of recovering fully from injury before returning to play.

“so that he can come back fully recovered, especially when his tear was a non-contact tear.”

Discipline in Parenting

19:27 to 21:49

Exploration of Brandon Marshall's controversial discipline methods for his son.

“And then after that, retire, keep it moving.”

Public Perception of Parenting Styles

21:49 to 28:00

Discussion on the backlash Brandon Marshall received regarding his parenting choices.

“Some more sometime later on down the line, brother Brandon Marshall, they say is facing criticism for disciplining his son, making a run at two o 'clock in the morning.”

Discipline and Parenting Styles

28:00 to 35:27

Exploration of different parenting styles and the necessity of discipline.

“So, so what, I should have ran them niggas last night when they, when they, when they showed up.”

Consequences of Actions

37:18 to 42:01

Discussion on the importance of understanding consequences in parenting.

“He said, yeah, I told you I had something for your ass next time.”

Disciplining Children: The Importance of Consequences

42:01 to 44:39

Learn about effective parenting techniques and the consequences of lack of discipline.

“And I have to teach you the right and wrong way.”
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44:40 to 45:25

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45:26 to 46:05

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46:06 to 50:21

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3:01James Harrison:It's blatant disrespect, Debo. Blatant disrespect. Right now I'm with the Steelers. I'm on the Steelers side. The good thing is they're coming from everybody's underestimating them. It's good, though. It's good because they're going to go out. They got to go out here and play still. You know what I'm saying? So them saying the defense is being old and all of this stuff, forget what they're talking about. We got ballers. We know what we got on the defensive side of the ball. We know T.J. Watt is ready to come back and prove that he's worth that bread. We got Nick Herbick. He knows that he wants to show dudes he's a top five pass rusher in the league, so he got his time to come eat.

3:39James Harrison:Alex Highsmith, he knows he's trying to go get another bag. He deserves, he feels like he's better than Herbick. All these three dudes, they feel like they should be top of the top. So we got all you under contracts. Go show it. Go do it. Let's see what's up. Listen, it's easy to show it. No, no, no. I'm just saying, though, understanding, though, Debo, with the secondary. We got the coaching staff. We got the players. Thank you, Joe. What did we see when we were sitting there the whole time, Joe? When we were sitting there watching games, when we call each other and text each other and we're watching games, what are we talking about?

4:11We're talking about breakdowns. We're talking about technical positioning of guys doing the same thing over and over that is completely wrong. So they have to be taught that to do it because it's not just one guy doing this. Multiple guys. Yep. So we need to be bad technique, horrible alignment and assignment or point blank, period. Like it's just a un-gap sound defense. Yep.

4:36James Harrison:I'm just trying to figure out to 10 and 7 last year. One of the division. Understand Joe Burrow was out. Lamar Jackson missed time. They didn't get as I don't feel like with the Ravens lost the offensive linemen. The Bengals, their defense, they lost Trey Hendrick. He went to Baltimore. They did get my big man for the defensive tackle. But, like, it's how much better did you really get? Now, we're going to have to go see. You're going to have to play the games. But the Steelers still, at the end of the day, won 10 games, won the division, have the same quarterback, got the same players. I feel like the offensive line got better.

5:13James Harrison:The defense, we got a better corner. We got another, we signed Sean as a quarterback. Just in another year for everybody to just grow. So the disrespect for the Steelers is I don't understand it. You know what I'm saying? Is it old man? Is it because A-Rod is a little older? Is it because they think the defense is a little older? It's because A-Rod is older. That's what they're saying. You got this out of him last year. What makes you think you're going to get any different? because we're going to get more from the rest of the team. They will be coached. They will be taught. They will be actually put in positions to succeed.

5:47Yeah.

5:48James Harrison:Yes. Schemes, game plans. We're running. Thank you. We're up. We're standing ahead of the sticks. We're up. The defense is being able to pin their note, being able to come after the quarterback now. Difference, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm excited about it, though, because just looking from it, Me and you were thinking the whole time offseason moves were going great. We just were worried about the quarterback. Now we got A-Rod coming back to a better squad. So now, okay, let's see what the hell's going on. We don't have to work. No, we got the players. Now we had our QB. Everything was cool at first when they was putting us back way deep because we didn't know who was going to be the quarterback.

6:25James Harrison:We didn't have Will Howard or Drew Allen. I'm like, okay, bet. We can chill. We can see about that because we don't know. We've never seen these dudes play. But we got A-Rod now. We know exactly what A-Rod can do. coming off. Now, he knows it's going to be his last year. He's locked in with his coach. No question. With the better players, with the receivers, with the line, with the running game. Like, I'm just excited to see. I think we have a full team. Offense, defense, special teams. Everybody plays well. We're going to be right there. Right where we need to be. Like, we went from, what was it?

6:5822? 22 to 19. Huh? What we did, that's it. And then you telling me with what Baltimore did, move them up three from 14? What Cincinnati did? Cincinnati shouldn't even have been in 11.

7:16James Harrison:That's what I'm – they're just putting it all on Joe Burrow and acting like those defensive changes are going to help them just average. Don't let them people score more than 25 points a game on you. I'm not – no. That's not good enough. To put them at nine? like, come on, bro. What did they do with the offensive line? What was the great improvement with the offensive line? The same one that got his ass hurt last year. Nothing. Shit, and the year before that. He missed some time a year before that, didn't he? Yeah. Okay, bro. And the Browns, what is they? God. See, they put the Browns at 28. They put the Browns at 28.

8:01James Harrison:Only reason why I could keep this. I'm not mad at it. You good? Okay. I'm not mad at it. I'm not mad at it. I know you. We're going to have to. This is the thing. We're going to have to show them something. We're going to have to prove ourselves. And I understand that. I think it's going to be Shador. Shador. Shador. Shador. Shador in that offense. We're going to have to see what they can do. Our defense. We got the. Now, Mr. Miles. Seeing what verse in there. We're going to see what our defense is going to be able to do. I know we still got ballers out there. So, it's going to look a little different.

8:31James Harrison:Let me see what it looks like. But if we can get a top 10 defense, offense, we got to score over 20 points a game. We can get the offense to score 20 points a game and the special teams tighten up. It's the same way, Debo. It's a full team game. Defense, got to still be – defense last year, we weren't in the top. We can get back to top 10. Get back to top 10 defense. Our special teams was selling last year too. Get the special teams sold. Not selling, they were sold. Get the special teams, right? And now in our offense, just be able to be competent offense. Let's get 20. Let's average 22 points a game, 21 points a game.

9:04James Harrison:Let's get to that point. Not 30. Let's get 21 points a game. Smooth. Let's see if we can do that. So I'm just I like that. Shador is going to be able to get a chance. If when he does with these receivers, with Boston, with Casey Conception, with our running game and our new line, just to be able to let's go out there. And now we have receivers that can make plays. Let's see if you can get it to him. Let's see if our running game could stay ahead of the sticks. Don't make him have to do craziness all the time. You know what I'm saying? Third and fours, third and fives. And then Shador, what did you learn from your pocket presence of not patting it all the time?

9:37James Harrison:When you're trying to escape, don't wheel around. You know what I'm saying? Making quicker decisions with being able to run, escape, or get the ball out of your hands. So just the team, full overall team. I'm not 28. Okay, whatever y 'all say. We won five games last year, but I'm still understanding we got to put the work on the field. We got to show them. Our offense has to actually score points for them to rank us higher than this. So, Browns, I'm not – it is what it is. Let's see what we can do. Okay. I ain't going to – you know. You know, you rocking with that, right? I'm rocking with everything you said, but, you know, a five – fifth worst, you know, just five.

10:16I think y 'all could be a little lower. Man, no. How? Because you're the Browns.

10:23James Harrison:You go find it. 28, that's disrespectful enough. I'm just telling you, y 'all go figure a way. It's disrespectful enough. Y 'all go figure a way to end up lower than that when season over with. Damn. I'm telling you. It's disrespectful enough. I don't know about respect, disrespect. I'm just telling you what it is, man. That's just how I can help what I can help. I'm going over here to Grand Bay, though. Michael Parsons is expected to miss at least half of the season. According to a recent report, Parsons commits significantly more time than initially expected as he continues recovering from his torn ACL he suffered last season.

11:09For a Green Bay team that invested two first-round picks and a record-setting contract in the superstar pass rusher, the latest projection is far from idea. Joe? Yep. What do you think of this, Joe? You think Micah missing more than half of the season is – what do you think? Just, I mean, I know it.

11:38James Harrison:I don't think. It's going to be tough. That sucks. When you draft a Pelé like Micah Parsons, the thing is you give up those first-round picks because you expect immediate greatness, immediate first-team all-pro, immediate, probably defensive player of the year type production. So obviously this sucks for them because you're missing out on all of that. But for Micah, I would think that career-wise and longevity, if you're going to miss him for this year and a half, you don't want him to rush back because you might not get him at all. So the thing is not trying to rush him in. It sucks already, for sure.

12:14James Harrison:You want to have your best player because you sent out first-round picks. You gave him this new deal. but you much rather be able to have him at all than to try to get him and he be weak and get himself hurt and this continue to be a thing so i mean it sucks for the team obviously but not rushing back and will be the best thing to be able to try to get him so when you do get him you can have him for long term then trying to rush him and get him back for the beginning of the season like injuries is 100 chance that people are going to get hurt let's not rush him back and get him re-hurt again and have him always looking like that let's try to get him back to his full capability because you signed him to a long deal.

12:50James Harrison:You signed to a five-year deal. You're giving him $40 million per year. So this is a long-term player. It's not a week-by-week thing. You're going to want him for the foreseeable future. So take your time with him and make sure that when he does come back, you don't have to have continued setbacks. Well, that's something that Green Bay, I guess, was not really trying to do because earlier this year, Parsons talked about how Green Bay followed a strict recovery timeline for ACL injuries. And he said, I think the goal has always been, not right now, but longevity for my career here. He said, there is no good outcome for players coming back early from ACLs.

13:41I agree with him. People talk about, well, Patrick Mahomes is coming back and all that other stuff. Yeah, Patrick Mahomes is a quarterback. Okay. I know they were both injured on the same day last year, but Patrick Mahomes is a quarterback. Patrick Mahomes doesn't have to go out there and get into confrontations with a man every player. This is a 100 % smart move by Micah to make sure that he takes the time so that he can come back fully recovered, especially when his tear was a non-contact tear. And when you're looking at non-contact tears through the significance of people who actually tear the other ACL, it's a higher percentage because now you are actually putting more force.

14:24You're putting more because you're coming back too soon. You're not 100%. And he's like, you know what? I'm not going to do that. And it's smart of him not to do that. He just signed a, what, four-year,$188 million max, what it could be, extension. Okay. And in year one of it, you're averaging, what is it,$47 million a year, bro? In year one, he gets this. It happens. He got$136 million of that that is guaranteed. So basically, he has a three-year deal. And you're telling me you want him to come back year two and not miss any time and come back before he's 100%. If he does that, he's going to risk, again, injury.

15:04And if he's able to come back, he's not going to be the same player. So after that, his third year comes around. He obviously won't be at the at the numbers that he was before because he's been unplayed. If he makes it through there, if he's not looking at his third year being injured again, now he's done. His guaranteed money is up. His contract is done, even though he has a year left. That would be foolish of him to do that. Like he said, longevity of his career, period. So, yes, Micah, get 100 percent. Do not come back until you are 100 percent. Why? Because your money is 100 percent guaranteed.

15:43And when that unguaranteed money starts coming up and you're missed half this year or whatever that time is that you end up having to miss and you come back with whatever year and whatever time you have left in this year and you're 100 percent and you go out there wreaking havoc and you let that lead into year three. and you finish that year three on top of your game back where you were, now year four is guaranteed. Not only is year four guaranteed, now you can re-up. Now he's at, what, 28, 29, doing another three - or four-year deal to finish out his career versus trying to figure out what he's going to do if he goes back too soon.

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19:29James Harrison:And then after that, retire, keep it moving. But this one I'm going to tell you, if Micah Parsons, if you are 100 % healthy and you can come back and you can move and do all that stuff, we're not telling you to relax or try to slow down your rehab. What I'm saying is, you know, once you hit that football field and you start to play, they're expecting 100 % of Michael Parsons. There's no, you're out there, oh no, he's getting back from injury. No, you need to spaz. You need to be getting sacks. You need to be able to be still doing the exact all pro things because you're getting paid as a baller.

20:06James Harrison:So don't come back in there, oh no, he's trying to get back into it because that's going to have you looking weak. You only as good as what your film says. So if you come back a step slower, moving forward, you're not Micah Parsons anymore. You got to come back and look like a dog. Be getting off that ball. No switches. None of that little fake stuff. Because it's like, no, now you're getting older in your career. We already gave you the bag. Is this a thing? Are you injury prone? Is it going to be a one-year deal? Do you prove it deals that are coming to you? Or, no, that's out the books. This man is getting off the ball.

20:38James Harrison:He came back. 11 sacks quickly through half the season. The last nine games of the year, he gets 11 sacks. They're like, okay, that's the same Micah Parsons. Next year, you're healthier 100%. Ball out 16, 17 sacks. Now you're back to right where you normally were. You come back gimping a little bit, looking a little crazy. They're not – that's on you. They're going to be like, okay, no, Micah Parsons is injury prone. Well, yeah, we had you back, but you really – We had you back, but you wasn't really doing no work. Oh, shit, what's the use of me coming back? If you're telling me you're going to hold that against me, I'll wait until I'm 100.

21:11and then you can hold that against me.

21:12James Harrison:They not going, and it's not, they going to tell you whatever, but it's going to be held against you. If you're playing on the field, it is held against you, period. You shouldn't be out there then. They'd be like, why the hell are you out there? Because, like, y 'all know if you're out there, you better be hooping, period. No question about it, brother. Do what you're doing, Micah, what's best for you, because, hey, listen, that guaranteed money is there for a reason, for opportunities and things like this that are unfortunate to happen, but so that you do not have to rush back. You can come back at a hundred percent and then you can go ahead and get ready to read up on their ass again.

21:49Some more sometime later on down the line, brother Brandon Marshall, they say is facing criticism for disciplining his son, making a run at two o 'clock in the morning. Look at, look, look, look at this. Look at, look at, look at this, Joe. There's no different than when we were in LA, Santa Monica running at midnight on the pier. We wanted to do that. We love to do that. And then there's correction. Then there's discipline. You're walking. Run. Run.

22:20Discipline correction is good. Even two in the morning, we run. I'm going to put my hands on you. But I'm training you up to be a warrior. I'm training you up to be a leader, to serve, to have discipline, to be better than me. Run. Run. Let's go. If you don't start running, we're going to go three miles. So you better start running because you don't know when I'm going to tell you to stop. You don't want to listen. We run. We work. Two in the morning. Let's go faster. I'm driving three miles per hour. You should be going at eight or nine miles per hour right now. Go. I promise you we're going all the way to the gas station, which is three miles.

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23:08Down and back is three miles. I'm at five. I'm at six. There we go. Now we moving. Run. Discipline.

23:25That's how you going to learn it. Come on.

23:30What do you think, Joe?

23:35so here i'm gonna let you see i guess so on the page right here they got a it's a like four uh comments that were the top comments on this page okay one of them said that's family business not instagram business okay another one said i don't know about discipline but definitely gave him something to unpack in therapy in 20 years another one said sir this is whack and embarrassing i have four men, all whom I had to discipline at some point, but never embarrassed my children, especially in this area. This has gone viral. So the amount of jokes and laughs from his peers have gotten, he has gotten could shatter his confidence.

24:15Kings, real Kings move with stern, but fair hand and always protect the kingdom. This is completely not needed, but you do what you do. Another one, the last one said, you should never discipline a child with embarrassment. It messes up their mental health state. Kids are people too. This is so lame. It didn't need to be public. If this is how you want it to discipline, that's fine. You did this to show off on the internet. I hope you take this down and I've read some of your comments, learn how to take constructive criticism, my guy. Most of us aren't trying to hurt you. Just giving good feedback.

25:00Take care. Joe, what do you think, Joe?

25:05James Harrison:Man, I think Brandon Marshall gets to discipline his kid however he wants to discipline his kid. I think that posting it on the internet might be the only thing that I would have probably not have done. because it describes on what did your kid do? You're disciplining your son. Right, we don't know what he did. We don't know what he did. I don't know what the things are, so I'm just going to go with, if he's disciplining his son, having to make him run outside at 2 a.m., that's nothing. Like, he did not, there's consequences to actions. He said his son is not listening. So there's going to have to be, there's actions.

25:44James Harrison:So he's saying he's going to discipline him in the way that he wants to discipline him. There's going to be consequences for you not listening to your father. So I don't know if people want to, however they decide how to do it, he's disciplining his son a certain type of way. He's not putting his hands on him. He's not doing nothing. But he knows there's consequences for you not listening to me. And that's what a father should do. Because out there in the real world, people don't, they're not, there's consequences to your actions. So the way that he raises his son, I only think that just putting him on the internet and showing all that, like I could, that might be the only thing I wouldn't have done because that's a, that's a you and your son thing.

26:20James Harrison:You handle your relationship. You discipline him how you want to, but the putting it in, he's not embarrassing him. I mean, it is what it is. Your son, he's not listening. You should be embarrassed. Like, I don't think that's, that's, he's not, that isn't bad. Like what people get all in their phone, you embarrass your kid, you have to deal with that. I'm like, what? Like it is what it is. People getting picked on all the time, but that's Thank you. That's something that's happened. Like, grow some tough skin. Like, it is what it is. He wasn't just whooping them, making them look crazy, giving them haircuts.

26:48James Harrison:You know, you don't listen to your parents. You've seen the joys. They zip the whole son's head. Just give him a whole little haircut right in the middle of his head and send him to school. That's embarrassing. Some of that stuff is a little wild. Having his son run down the street, a little jog. He's sitting there three miles an hour. Like, okay. Like, that's what he's doing with his kid. He said, we were doing it in Santa Monica, at the pier. You know what I'm saying? As a fun thing. They do conditioning normally. So instead he's not whooping it like, son, you about to go run two o 'clock in the morning because you weren't listening.

27:16James Harrison:That's his thing that he had with his son. So I'm not against, I'm not mad at it at all. I would say the only thing was he didn't, you wouldn't have to post it on Instagram. But if you did, that's on you. I mean, I don't see anything too bad with that at all. Yeah. So, I don't know what he did to get ran at 2 o 'clock in the morning. Like, I ain't gonna lie to you. I don't know what he did. And I don't know if I agree with it, but I damn so don't disagree.

28:00I don't know if I would do it like you said the way he did it as far as you know putting him you know on internet and all that like that's something that like I couldn't do you know what I'm saying of course my discipline is different you know what I'm saying my discipline was a good old fashioned ass whipping

28:22James Harrison:my discipline was a good old fashioned belt to the station. You know what I'm saying? So, so what, I should have ran them niggas last night when they, when they, when they showed up. See, Debo? Hey, no. See, that's crazy. You can't help me for not sending you a Father's Day text. I'm still feeling some kind of way about my breakfast, about my breakfast, my birthday dinner, okay? I'm still feeling some kind of way about that. But anyway, let me, let me get, let me, let me get back to this right here. Now, you know, you got people saying, oh, he shouldn't do that. He embarrassing him and, you know, He's going to mess up his mental and all that other stuff.

28:58First off, I don't know what he did. Maybe he embarrassed his father in front of people. I'm telling you. That was something that he did. Because I was always told, embarrassment, you go get yourself embarrassed. My mama said, hey, where you act up is where you get fucked up. And if you act up in the middle of the grocery store, you'll get your ass whipped in the middle of the grocery store. Where you embarrass me is where I embarrass you. so I don't know what happened there in that process but again I'm I wouldn't do it that way but

29:32James Harrison:I'm not against it because you know how your kid is going to respond you know when it comes down to a dude they're saying I wouldn't do this I wouldn't do that yeah that's you that's how you parent your child you're doing what's best for your child to recognize that through this process of what you're calling discipline, this is what's going to work best for my child. That ain't what's going to work best for your child, or that's not what worked best for you. Mine was spanking ass. Spanking ass. You know why I spanked ass, Joe? Because between the ages of two and six, as soon as he could say yes and no, and he understood what yes and no was, I now have a choice to spank that ass because I don't have an opportunity to reason and logic with a two - to six-year-old.

30:27Yes. Or whatever that age it is. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I didn't whoop my children out of anger. I whoop my children out of discipline. So if you do A, then you get B. You do A, then you get B. It was never a, oh, you know what? Let me tell him something five, six, seven, eight times, and now I'm mad and I want to whoop him. Oh, no. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no. It's no emotion.

30:53James Harrison:It's no emotion. Yes, dude. It's no emotion. It's identify the behavior, correct it. That's it. Now, when things are, they get older and now they can reason and understand stuff, you take the belt away. Or maybe they understand a little sooner. Because for me, I didn't realize the escalation. Okay? so mine started off with a hand belt you know and then it jumped higher than the belt mine stopped at a belt my kids couldn't take no ass whoopings you realize early they couldn't take that so I actually thought my youngest was going to be the issue you know what I'm saying because I popped him when he was like two and he gave me the look I'm like oh so I went on ahead I'm like hey I'm trying to tell him come up here when I call you you come up here Yeah.

31:49He don't, uh-uh. I said, don't move him. I'm coming down there. I popped that leg, right? So I walked back upstairs. He's still standing there. I said, come here. He ain't coming. I went right back down there again. I said, pop that leg, dude. By the time I got up the steps, went to turn around, he was on my tail. On your heels. Knocked him down, trying to turn. So, like, I knew what was going to happen. But for me, my escalation was a damn extension cord, bro. Oh. And I'll never forget it, dude. I was 14, bro. I was 14 years old, man. And all my sisters and brothers are there. Like, all my sisters and brothers at the house.

32:23My mama, she like, oh, come on up. Come on up. Come on up here. I'm about to whip your ass. I'm like, okay.

32:28James Harrison:What did you do? But you did some of it. Joe, I don't even remember what I did. Okay. All right. Okay. You had to do some wildness. Had to. Hey, now remember now, my mama was a disciplinarian. She, hey, if I say, hey, my mama tell you to take the trash out. If you ain't going to take that trash out in 20 seconds flat, that's a disciplinarian. respectful and that is disobedience. It's disrespectful. It's disrespectful. You talking back. You didn't say nothing, but you're talking back. Okay. You're talking back. And it ain't no pop. She ain't hands on you. She whooping ass, right? So, get upstairs.

33:01I'm about to whoop your ass. Okay, cool. All my sister and brother's down there. She get upstairs. She do her thing. Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop. I'm muscling it up. I ain't dropping it. I run back downstairs fast to my sister and brother's. They're like, what happened? Did she whoop you? It hurts. I'm like, no, it wasn't nothing. You know, it's whatever. You're wild. Joe, it's whatever. It's whatever. You know what I'm saying? I'm high shining on her. I'm doing all that. Yeah. She came down the steps. Okay. She looked at me. She said, okay. She said, I got something for your ass next time.

33:31I said, okay, whatever. I'm like, you done already whooped me with that belt. And I done took that like a man. I done took that like a cheat. Joe. Joe, I don't know why I said that bullshit. You're wild. You're wild. I had the nerve to do something else. I don't even remember what it was. But it was the last time I did anything, Joe. She whipped me with an extension cord, Joe. And I can tell you right now, Joe, she only hit me nine times. Nine times, Joe. She hit me two times, Joe. And I couldn't even stand it. I jumped up out of there like I was a damn crab in hot water. On that second one, bro.

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37:21I said, ooh, let me mask this. God damn, Debo. I said, oh, Lord Jesus. He said, yeah, I told you I had something for your ass next time. I said, Joe, I said, I can't never do nothing wrong again because I don't know what she going to escalate to after that.

37:37James Harrison:That's what I'm saying. I couldn't take that, Joe. That's what I'm saying. I couldn't take that, Joe. So, Debo, this is what we're saying, though. End of the day, my parents, too, was whooping my ass. And I was never getting my... I had four younger brothers. I'm the oldest of five boys. So there had to be, me and my brothers always just fighting around and we needed to get disciplined. My dad and mom never whooped me without me needing to be whooped. No question. Like I always felt like I deserved, like I never just walked in the house and got hit upside the head. No, you're doing something that you shouldn't be doing.

38:12James Harrison:Boom. So I always knew when I was about to get whooped. And me, I'm opposite of you. I'm scared. I'm crying instantly trying not to get whooped. I know that. I'm so sorry. What you crying for now? I ain't even getting you nothing to cry for yet. I know, I know. So I take one. I'm crying and I don't want to do it no more. So I would be trying to get us out of these whoopings because I know if I'm going to get whoopings, I deserved it. I never walked in there on no dumb stuff. So my mom and dad, he's like, it hurts me more than it hurts you, son. I'm like, you're a damn lie in my mind. But I know what he's talking about now because he's like, yes, dude, you can't do this and expect not to get, you know what I'm saying?

38:50James Harrison:Something. So that's why I always would be good because I'm like this. If I'm chilling and me and my brothers are doing the right stuff, I will not get belt. I will not get whooped. My dad is chilling. My dad is the coolest dad in the world. But if I mess around and do something stupid and I know I'm about to get whooped, that means you did something dumb. If I know I'm about to get whooped, I'm like, God damn it, why did I do that? You know what I'm saying? Like, that's just knowing there's consequences. Consequences and repercussions, Joe. I know right from wrong. So that's why with my boys, I was always on them early because this is the thing my dad would say.

39:24James Harrison:When you see those kids that don't listen to their parents out in the grocery stores and things like that, shut up, mom. You know what I'm saying? No, mom, give me this. I'm like, oh my gosh, they're doing that in their homes. So you think that your kid going to sit there and talk to you? They're talking to you crazy, right? Crazy. People talking to you nuts because they're talking to you nuts in your home. They just didn't start that while they're in the store and feel like it's okay for them to be like, shut up, mom. You're crazy. Give me my cereal. I'm like, oh my God, what did the kid, is that kid lost his mind?

39:57James Harrison:My kids are looking at that kid like this. Oh my God, did he send it to his parents? Oh my God. Oh no. Oh no. I'm like this. Yes, son. You see what I see. Joe, all that candy they put at the checkout. Let me tell you this. Let me tell you this. Get your ass whipped. Debo, Debo. And guess what? That kid is disrespecting their teachers. That kid is disrespecting everybody because you walk around now. There's no consequences to whatever you say. You could talk to anybody however you want and you think it's sweet. You'll walk around to somebody else and get bopped right upside your face because that's not the way you talk to people.

40:29James Harrison:That's not the way you communicate. It's not nice. It's not kind nor friendly. But when you were a kid and you're walking around and you're talking to everybody your own way, you walk into a room, you don't speak, you just think like you got it. I'm like, no, that's not a disciplined child. You follow that child home, you see their parents, they're talking to them in the same exact way. And that's what we did not want. So when I'm walking around, they're like, man, you have so respectful kids. They're so nice. They're so kind. I'm like this. They better be. Because that's the way that I've raised them.

40:58James Harrison:Because you just have to be nice. You treat yourself. You treat people the way you want to be treated. You walk in. You say hi. You never disrespect. When you're like the kids. If your son, you're walking around, you want to protect your kids. You tell them, hey, come here. You tell them to stop because they're about to walk into the street and get hit by a bus. They don't listen to you. They step out there. they get hit by a bus. My son, stop. Instantly. Boom. Come right over to dad because he knows you listen to your father. You listen to your father. Instantly. There's no questions asked. You know, why?

41:29James Harrison:Because I said so. Ain't no way. Ain't no why. There's no why. Because I said so. Because I'm doing what's best for you and you know that. I would never tell you to do something that you don't need to do. Because I said so. Thank you. Thank you, Joe. Because I said so. That's what I'm talking about, D-Bone. Yo. So we're not trying to be like crazy. No, no. We know that there's somebody that has to be law. And I'm not, when you say, I'm not your friend, I'm your dad. I'm your dad. No question. I can be your friend later in life. I can be your friend. But right now, I'm your father. And I have to teach you the right and wrong way.

42:07James Harrison:What's good, what's bad. Discipline. Because then you'll know when you're walking around, I need to know my son knows right from wrong. And then when you do wrong, that was a choice that you made, son. Because you knew. I taught you the difference between right and wrong. I taught you the right thing to do and the wrong thing to do. Now, you made a conscious decision yourself to do the wrong decision. Ha! That's on you, bubs. You know what I'm saying? You're going to be living this life. But when you're in my household, you're going to know what's up in a good way. No, no, no. I'm not bullying you.

42:36James Harrison:I'm not trying to. But you know when you're walking around here, you're walking around here smooth. You're being nice. you've been, you're not, nothing's happening. We all living good. You come here talking crazy. Who the, are you talking to, son? Oh, snap. Here's the problem. Here's the problem with a lot of families or a lot of parents that don't discipline. Some kids cannot, don't have to be physically disciplined. Yes. Very few. Very few. Because here's what you're going to run into. is once that child realizes that you are not, there's going to be no actual physical punishment or discipline for what they do wrong, I don't have to listen to anything you say.

43:20James, go stand in the corner. I say, no, I'm not standing in the corner, just a buck. Well, what you gonna do? Well, you better go stand in the corner. Well, I'm not gonna stand in the corner. I'm going to do this. Well, I'm gonna get your father. Well, what will he go do? He whoop ass? No, okay. I'm not doing it. Well, he's gonna talk to me too. I'm gonna have a conversation with his ass too. No physical punishment. No physical punishment for this. They don't have to listen anymore. They become adults that don't listen. Now you wonder why he's sitting over here locked up, why he's at school getting kicked out because he's not listening.

43:56There's no punishment. And then he realizes that, oh, I can go and do this and say that, and nothing happens until he runs into somebody that's like one of my kids that's been taught. somebody say something to you, put their hands on you, it's two different things. He can say whatever he want. You ain't tripping on that, okay? We're going to let that ride. But the minute he touches you, I don't give a damn if he puts a finger on you, you let him know. You touch me again, and I'm a thrash. And then you go and whoop his ass. Or you give all you can to do it. Because at the end of the day, dude, they got to realize there's repercussions and consequences.

44:31And when there's no actual physical punishment, especially for a child that realizes that I can do whatever I want to and my punishment is if I don't want to listen, I don't have to listen and there's nothing that happens from that. It's over. It's over with, dude. You have not a leg to stand on. You ain't got a boot to piss in or a window to throw it out of.

44:54James Harrison:Mm-hmm. It was the 80s. We were 80s, babies. Pray. Just pray to God. Get on your hands and knees because that's all you got left. That's all you got left. When was you born, Debo? I was born in 78, baby. Oh, yep. You 78. I was 89. That's just... Bro, you missed the whole 80s, bro. I missed the whole... I was still 80. I made it. Nah, 89, not really. That's like me saying... How you going to say 89 isn't in the 80s? It starts with an 80s. I understand, but damn. I mean, I'm moms. So the kids born in 99, they really born in 2000. You might as well give them 2000. Don't steal it from me. You might as well give them 2000.

45:31James Harrison:I'm in there. I'm an 80s baby. 80s, baby. That's why, you know what I'm saying? I feel like if you were born in 1989, you got everything. You got a little bit of everything. If you 37 years old right now, yo, yeah. You prime. You prime. Young and prime. You got it. I don't know about that, Joe. You ain't. I'm telling you, the 80s. The 80s. If you was born in the 80s. Did you catch the free lunch at the pool in the summer? Yes, Deebo. Okay. Come on, man. I'm just checking. I already know. I'm just checking. Let's jump into these Super Chats, man. Let's get it. Man, Super Chat. Lady Iron 23,$5. Appreciate you.

46:11She said, happy belated Father's Day to my two favorite morning guy.

46:22James Harrison:Yes. Love you. Thank you very much. Appreciate you. Love you. Appreciate you, man. He back. Mike Mike 100,$5. He said, what up, D-Boy and Joe? Sanders wins Browns a Super Bowl be bigger and crazier parade than the Knicks. If Sanders wins the Browns a Super Bowl? Yes. Yes. Listen. Yes. Listen. I'm trying to tell you. Oh my God. That man, you thought Brown took over the city. That man. What? That man. What? Full-blown statue. Let's play the what if game because we know that shit ain't going to happen for the Browns. Man, they disrespect the shit and do some craziness like that. We putting the statue.

47:00James Harrison:I'm putting it up. They of. All right. Go ahead. Keep going. Keep going. Keep going. It's excellent. My plan, Joe. Covenant Life, she back. Ten out of - Covenant. First of all, happy Father's Day to the both of you. Awesome. Thank you, Covenant. Men of God, thank you very much. Covenant. Devo. Debo. I have a - I said it like you, Devo. Yeah. Debo, I have an Applebee's card for you because you love cheap stuff. And Joe, I have a Zoe Steak and Seafood card for you. Yeah. I'm not saying that I love cheap stuff. I love what I can afford and still be able to keep a roof over my head. That's like, that's what I love.

47:42I love to be able to, to, to live, you know, every day and not be like, Oh snap. Am I going to eat today and splurge and not be able to eat tomorrow? You know, that's what I, that's where I'm at with it. That's why. Okay. Like I don't, you know, that's, we got Covenant Life she is back we got Covenant come on Covenant she said Joe what's up my guy as a Browns fan slash player and dad spent your years explaining things that don't make sense damn you're qualified you're overqualified

48:22hey Covenant I was waiting for you to say something

48:26James Harrison:Grofie did damn Covenant that was a good one but listen we got time we just gonna watch the season and we're going to watch it unfold. Yep, yep, yep. I mean, it's a possibility y 'all could be looking at, you know, doing a little something and having at least being in the fight in about two, three years maybe. You know what I'm saying? Man, wait, what's y 'all? Y 'all are, man, covered it. Just watch. We don't go ahead and convince Joe Burrow to come on through. That's, you know, that's the only thing that would basically put y 'all back into a, you know, huckleball, you know, in a headlock. Why everybody keep tripping as long as we understand, look, By the end of this season, we're going to know that Shador is him.

49:03James Harrison:So then that's what I'm waiting on. By that time, then that's what we're going to know. Okay. We got another one right here. We got Andy Glue here,$82665, said, Rocking my Debo time shirt at the gym. What bicep tips you got? All right, look here. This is what you do. You want to do like a giant set. Yeah. You want to do like a, say a low pulley, a close grip curl, lay that down to a incline comfort curl, and then hit that to a...

49:51James Harrison:Hammers. You want to do hammer curls? Yeah, get that massive hammer curls. All right. All right. So low pulley close right here. Side here. Comfort is out here. Arms out like this. Literally hanging down, incline to here. And then the other ones. Hammer here. Boom. Yeah. There you go. There you go. You know I know. We want to thank you guys for joining us on this episode of D-Bo and Joe. please make sure you like, subscribe and oh, we got Covenant Life back Joe! Oh, Covenant, what's up? Covenant Life back, she said$10 she said, Joe, the Browns finally gave you a Father's Day gift one less excuse for why Pittsburgh gives living rent free keeps living rent free in Cleveland's head love you Joe, you know it alright Covenant I can't wait till this season.

50:57James Harrison:I'm going to be on your game. Listen, man. I'm trying to tell you, man. Y 'all start liking these episodes, man. Get it up there, man. We appreciate y 'all, man. We will be back here whenever Joe say we going to be back here. But again, thank you guys for joining us on this episode of D-Boy and Joe. Please make sure you like, subscribe, and download where you get your show, Joe. Come on. We will see you tomorrow. Same time, same place. Let's get it. Yo.

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