Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Patriots Super Bowl Pressure, Luka Returning from Injury, Tattoo Debate

25:33James Harrison:Yeah. Nah, you ain't about to do that, bro. I know I messed up. That's the thing too, Debo. We take, look, man, we're not saying I won't be being able to get coached up. Oh, you can coach me hard as hell. Coach me hard as hell. I want to be coached. Because that's the thing too. I want to do the right thing. I want to be on my assignment. I need to know. You let me know what's going on. Right. And if I do it wrong - You can hit me with the James. Get your ass in the hole. Come on. This, this, this. Yes. like insult like the stupid motherfucker you dumb motherfucker the personal attack hey uh uh nah that ain't happening nah bro you can hit me with the hey you playing too damn high get your ass down alright yes I need all of that cause guess what Debo if you're playing too high you need to get down so the way you're saying I'm rocking with it yes yeah yeah for sure now I guess y 'all kids is into this stuff, man.

26:30James Harrison:This ain't something that we did as, you know, in my era. You know what I'm saying? I'm a grown man. I got kids your age, Joe. I mean, daddy, we used to go to school together. We graduated around the same time. So the Jaguars receiver, Parker Washington, he got his entire stomach, back arms tattooed this offseason. We got a video. yo, this man got five artists working on him simultaneously. Five hours. What? Bruh. Mm-hmm.

27:10James Harrison:Joseph. Yes, sir. What's the...

27:16Like...

27:17James Harrison:Damn, you don't even want to, like, earn it? I ain't going to... Look, he earned some of them, but then the big one now, the finish, I ain't going to lie. Do you want me to give you a quick story? Yeah. I know a little thing or two about it. I know a little thing. What you do? Huh? Long story short, I know all about this. I did the same daggone thing. I'm 50-50. I got probably 50 % of mine before, and then when I went out to California - Hey, man, y 'all don't run this shit. I'm leaving. Listen, listen, Debo. Listen. It's not crazy. It's not crazy. It's not crazy at all. I called. Look, look, look.

27:58James Harrison:Listen, this is how it happened. Because I wanted to get my sleeve, full sleeve, beautiful leg sleeve. I got the leg sleeve done right now. It's fire, D-Bo. Whole leg done, right? I see my man Odell. I love O. That's my mans. You let him talk you into. Odell is the sleepy giant for tattoos. Listen, listen. He ain't had a tattoo awake ever. See, yes, he did. Yes, we. where everybody was doing tattoos. I had plenty of tattoos before I got to the league and it found out about the plug. Okay? So this is what I'm trying to tell you. It's a expensive thing. But look, I called my man O. I'm like, look, O, I know you got all them tats and you be coming out looking so sweet fast.

28:39James Harrison:Like, I know you're not getting all that pain at one time. It's going to take at least a week or two to get the tat. My man O say, look, Joe, I'm going to send you to my dentist. I say I asked for tattoos brother he said I'm going to send you to my dentist I say okay go out there D-Bo meet up with the dentist we talking about getting you know what I'm saying the little diamonds in the teeth like just want some chill I'm like okay yeah yeah I'm like what about he said yeah but you know when you get the diamonds in your tooth you're already going to be getting you know what I'm saying anesthesia you'll be having to go down so while we do that we got the tattoo artist that can come knock you out too So while you're getting the diamond in your tooth, you could just get a tattoo at the same time.

29:23James Harrison:I said, oh, my God. This, it hurts. It's painful. It's painful tats. So we got the anesthesiologist. You're working in a real live spot. It's beautiful. It's so nice. You're in a real live dentist's office that are taking care of you, pristine care, anesthesiologist, everything. But you got to pay. Anesthesiologist, you know what I'm saying? It's real live because you're getting the procedure. I want to earn mine. Look, look, you go ahead and earn yours. I earned 50 % of mine too. And then the other ones, I'm like, you don't want to earn. Which ones didn't you earn? Which ones didn't I earn? Placement.

30:02James Harrison:I didn't earn. I didn't earn this. I didn't earn. You ain't earned none of that. I ain't earned this one. That right there, that brown still right there. On that side, Debo, I ain't earned that. I would have cried like a baby. That would have took me. I'd still be getting. Look, I got my back tattoo, Debo, and I only got the lining done because it hurt so bad. I had the lining for three years. I couldn't go back and get it fixed. I got my back tattooed. I just had the cross or the outline of the cross. Okay? So that's what I'm trying to tell you. I fought. I've got my stomach tat right here. This one did it.

30:37James Harrison:Pain. Ah. Sat there. Ah. Right here. Ah. Sat there. Chest. Chest. Sat there. Ah. Took all this. All this whole stomach. I took all of that. Took all of that pain. I'm trying to tell you. But I found out. Look. Found out. Okay. Boom. Boom. In and out. Good. Everything safe. Solid. But yeah, it was. Quick. Quick. Hurry. Out. In and out. Last tattoo I got was my kids on my forearms. Bruh. My arms were swole for like three, four days, bruh. Yeah. You go in here. Fight for that. Yeah, I ain't. But listen, now, if I go in there and I say, all right, y 'all put me to sleep, tap me up. I'm gonna wake up swole, still hurting on fire.

31:26James Harrison:Bro, I'm trying to tell you, once you wake up from there, I woke up, I was good. Chilling. See, they give you a whole bunch of, you know, anti-inflammatories, all the other stuff. See, I like my body naturally heal from that. You know what I'm saying? Once you put that anesthesia in, you got to get it up out you, too. Now you need to take the protocols to get necessary. Yeah, no, no, for sure. Bro, I was going in for real live, getting my teeth worked on like I'm going to the dentist. So everything is taken care of perfectly. I'm not playing. Oh, no. I'm saying as far as when you get done, like, they don't do protocols to push the anesthesia out of you, like, to help get that up out of you.

32:07James Harrison:As far as recovery for your body, it helps you heal faster and everything else. that's what I'm talking about I'm doing but man I might just go ahead get my whole back done hey look I know a guy I'm just gonna get a whole you know what I'm gonna get attacked across my neck right here down my face half my face don't do that don't do that you know I was nope nope nope nope and it's gonna say it's gonna say it's gonna say real real you know real yeah see why you doing all that You don't have to go there. And then while I'm getting my braces done, I should get tatted up everywhere. I'm like, you already taking my braces off.

32:48James Harrison:You keep going to the braces. That's what I need to send you to for real. Send you to my dentist. He actually is my dentist, though. For real. I swear. Bro, and if you see him, he's a, bro, swole Dr. Conner. I'm going to send him to you, bro. Swole, swole, tatted up dentist. Uh-uh, man. Dr. Conley. Dr. Conley. Hey, bro. Hey, bruh. Shout out Dr. Conley, bruh. Listen. Listen, bruh. He swole up. Bro, Dr. Conley is just - That's so he can move you around, because you sleep. He going to have to move you around. Touch. Bruh, you know how bad that would hurt you? Bro, I'm - You see, this is what I'm saying.

33:28James Harrison:You thinking - This is what I'm trying to tell you. I'm getting y 'all hip to some real stuff. This is not - I'm with - Hey, listen. This is not doing - If it's worth it for me to put it on my body, it's worth it for me to go through the pain to get it. You know what I'm saying? To each his own. I did the pain too. How many tats do you have? Do you even know? Because now I got so many tats, it just lost count. See, you got them nice. You got them indies. You got them nice little individuals. You got five tats. Yes. I probably got 150 tats. and I got 75 of them and I didn't get 75 of them. Wow.

34:15James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? I want to earn mine and remember mine. You know what I'm saying? It makes it that much more glorious. You know what I'm saying? Bro, that jump really, really hurts and especially when you're trying to get like big detail work. That's why you got to really want it. You really want it? Right down here, straight down my head. All the way here. Look, I got this tattoo, bro, and it literally felt like it was in my jaw. I was getting this done, and it felt like it was tattooing me in my jaw. I was like, oh, my God. The shock and pain. I'm like, oh, my God. How is this hitting me in my face?

34:50James Harrison:Dude, that little thing right there. Yeah. I felt that in my neck, bro. Brother, I kept on squinting. I'm like, oh, my God. Is he tattooing me in my face? So that's what I'm saying, D-Bo. I just, you know, my body reacts funny sometimes. I get the twitching. Bruh. Hey, Luka is returning. Luka's coming back? Los Angeles on Friday after spending the last week in Spain where he received multiple injections into his grade two left hamstring strain. Ooh, we got a breakdown of the treatment he got. What'd he get? He got a little bit of everything. Hey, Joe. Yes. you ever went outside the country to get treatment nope I know you have have you I know you have oh yeah but you go out there and get seen that you talking about me here's the crazy thing is I didn't even go far I just went to Canada oh okay yeah yeah you ain't go far at all Canada part of Canada is here yeah Canada with us yeah like Toronto yeah right there that's it brother hey man I hope he get back I ain't never went I ain't never had to go across to get no treatments.

36:02James Harrison:Maybe if you did, you'd be doing a lot better, baby. Some of them good stem cells. Is that what Luka got? I don't know. Let me see what a breakdown of his treatment. Let's see. I just want anybody. Luka's a baller, but anybody that's playing with LeBron James also, I want him to succeed. Luca Donald traveling to Europe to get a grade two strains. Germany traditionally led the world in cutting edge medical treatments, especially stem cells. He probably got stem cells. He definitely got stem cells. Yeah, got to. But a hammy for the soft tissues. I understand what he's saying, but why would you go all the way to Germany for stem cells?

36:46Because you could still get stem cells in the U.S. You just don't see what they did.

36:55James Harrison:likely getting a combination of yeah it's placenta, tissue, exosomes yeah you can get all that here I don't know why it would all go all the way to Germany and there's nothing different than what they're doing over there it depends if he did his own stem cells you can't grow stem cells here you gotta do that other places where you're on, however that goes you know, FDA, all that other stuff you know, they be doing And then when you use the stuff here, you know, like allografts, like percentotype allografts, that's, you know, you got to make sure you're using clean sources and everything is clean so you don't pick up nothing.

37:37But, yeah, it's not assuming they would use peptides of some sort.

37:44James Harrison:Peptides, yeah. Oh, yeah. They're trying to crack down on peptides and all that. They're trying to crack the code, but this is what I'm saying. if he comes back that's nothing that they can find and like they're gonna probably drug test them instantly um it it just depends some type of some peptides you can take boy okay you can't especially lane basketball have different uh have different than we do they're they're more they're they're their their rules are more lax than ours all i'm telling you is like we we support for the show comes from public the investing platform for those who take it seriously On public, you can build a multi-asset portfolio of stocks, bonds, options, crypto, and now generated assets, which allow you to turn any idea into an investable index with AI.

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41:19James Harrison:Paul George got back and he got tested because he got sat down for some stuff. And I'm just saying, when you come back and hooping quickly, they're going to be like this. Hold up now. It ain't matter, bro. I was getting tested every week, twice a week. No, no, no, for sure. Oh, did you, were you out there? gee, but you was out there illegal? No. Oh, okay. No, I got, they thought I was illegal. They thought you was illegal. I was still 39 playing. Okay. They trying to figure out how. They trying to figure out how. They need that blood. They pissed off. I'm still out there. Man, how is this nigga doing that?

41:59James Harrison:He got to be on that dope. He got to be taking something. Yeah, man. Because I don't know. Because they say, I just got hip to hearing about the peptides. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not hip. Peptides can help you on your hip or whatever you got going on. It's more, well, it's peptides for everything, but the majority of the ones that they're trying to outlaw, which makes no sense, is the ones that help guys heal faster, like muscle healing and all that other stuff. BPC-157, whatever they call it, Thymob4 is a combination. It's called different things. but you know TB 500 the same thing as you know Thymus and B4 and then the BPC 157 that's another you put them two together and you know put it into whatever you know issue you got especially if he's combining stem cells with that that's just that's a go.

42:55James Harrison:He's gonna have a concoction oh yeah that's a go right there you can't that's a no brainer. Oh yeah we knew it look just man I wanted to get Man, listen, bro. If you want to get back, you let me know. Holler at your boy. You know what I'm saying? That's what I'm saying. I know. He's going to get— If the Lakers want to do anything, he's going to have to get back. Because there's going to be Bron out there by himself. Because you know Bron, healthy, 41. For sure. Taking care of his hamstrings. Yeah. Yeah. Bron dropping, what did he say? Damn near a million and a half, two million a year. Man, something.

43:30James Harrison:Hey, yes, sir. He know what it is, though. That's why he's been able to do it for so long. Yes. Modern advances in technology and health care. We talk about greatness. Brother, LeBron James. Deebo, you still got Jordan. Michael Jordan. You still got LeBron, okay. And there's nothing he could do to ever pass him. Freak, no. And do you think LeBron James is the second best player? Or do you think somebody else is better? I'll give you that. I don't have. I don't want or shall not argue with somebody that says Michael Jordan is the best player of all time. Because that was my, I felt the same way for the longest, longest time until LeBron started playing this long and being this great at this long.

44:15James Harrison:Not just playing still, he's dogging shit. I understand what you're saying, but when you play that long with the minor advances in technology, you want to break every total record. All these other dudes have still got the same technology. He's been doing it since he was 16 years old. I understand, but Jordan didn't have that technology. He went and said, I'm done with basketball. It's too easy. Let me go see what baseball could do. You trying to say that. And then he comes back and goes three again. Brother, stop playing with me, bro. Brother, brother, brother, brother. Three and three. And in between, he said, shit, let me see what this baseball thing looking like.

44:54James Harrison:I hear you, brother. We acting like Jordan only played six years in the league. I understand what you're saying. You know what I'm saying? How many titles LeBron got? Full. And how many years he done played? 25. 23. Okay, 23. But look, this is what I'm telling you, too. Look, I understand that, but it's not. He won four ships still. Still won four ships. And we're not saying six doesn't make Jordan. You're saying that six, just because he has six ships, is that why he's the best player? He got six. What about a man that got nine? He playing defense, man. man. He got defensive titles to go with that thing.

45:30James Harrison:When they didn't give, see, that's what I'm saying. You're taking that part. Hey, who got a better chance of playing in the physicality of each other's era? Bron. Y 'all act, you act like Bron's not 6 '8", 260. Like he can't just dog shit. You realize you can't flop. But he could if he wanted to. You can't flop back then in the 90s. Bron would throw them little motherfuckers. And you couldn't help. Bron would just be playing one-on-one versus them. They got foot in the lane. Bron would be dogging them old dudes, man. You know it. Bron would be dogging them old dudes. The only thing I have, the only thing I had to say of why Bron and why Jordan is I feel that people say that Jordan is better for show, and this is what pissed me off.

46:18James Harrison:LeBron was dragging the Cavs at the beginning of his career. Way more than Jordan was when he didn't make it to the playoffs before. or he got Scottie. So all them times when Brown was even making it to the championship with those Cavs teams, I don't think he gets the credit he deserves. Like if he'd had a wingman in, they could have won ships earlier in his career. When he went to Miami, the first year in Miami, this is my only fault for Brown. And this is why when you say this and other people say it, he should have took the reins from D-Wade off the rip that first year and beat Dallas and not let Dirk in him.

46:50James Harrison:He only had like seven to 10 points in the games. He just looked like Dirk ran through all the OGs that year. Look, look, look, look, let me talk. Dirk crushed it. Dirk was the best player out there. But for me watching as a LeBron fan, I'm like, Bron, this is your time. Show everybody now. He's being passive to D-Wade. Dirk was cooking. Dirk was cooking regardless. But on the heat, I'm like, Bron, go crazy. Like, even if you shoot and miss every time, shoot it. Shoot it, shoot it, shoot it, please. And then after that year, they ended up winning two in a row, and then they lost again. But that was the one year I was like, this Bron, dang it.

47:25James Harrison:I wish you would have went hard because then that was the year. If he would have won it right there, then you can't say like, no, Jordan. I'm like that killer instinct that everybody was saying. I'm like, yeah, he was a little passive to D-Wade and he didn't go get it there. Then he went and won two more there, went back to Cleveland. He went back to Cleveland, won a ship there, and now went to L.A. and won another ship. So I'm like, from the time when he left and went to Miami, and that one year right there didn't get that first ship, I felt like if you would have got that, you're on dogman status.

47:55James Harrison:Because I feel like when you were in Cleveland, your teams weren't that good and you still were carrying them. Like, you got them there. When you went to Miami that first year, ship. As soon as you would have won that joint off rip, everybody would be like, oh, okay, okay. He slowed down and let D-Wade kind of get big boy right there. And then that's when I'm like this, dang it. Everybody, the killer instinct. He doesn't have the killer instinct. I'm like, he does, but he just didn't go right there. And then next year, he went and got it. Next year after that, went and got it again. Then lost, left, came back to Cleveland, went and got it versus Golden State when nobody thinks it now, then goes to LA, goes and gets it.

48:28James Harrison:Like, that was just what was busting my head. I love LeBron. He came in at 16. I mean, like, ever since he was 16. Exactly. He came in at 16. No, he didn't come in at 16. When did Jordan come in? LeBron didn't come in at 16. He came in as being a chosen one on the cover of ESPN at 16. and being able to have all of that from that point, coming to high school, going from high school to the league. Jordan went to college and had to play, played in college. Bron didn't even have to do none of that. And then when we talk about Kobe, Kobe went to high school to the league. They changed the rules, too.

48:58James Harrison:No, but guess what? They changed the rules so that was possible, too. Okay, yeah, but guess what? Jordan didn't have that option. I love Kobe to death, too. But Kobe went to the league, and then when he first got to the league, he was behind Eddie Jones. Like he was still, wasn't really starting. You know what I'm saying? Bron instantly, soon he gets to the league, first day. Like King James, Cleveland. But no, I don't want to hear all that. He was taking them to the ship. He was playing with Cleveland when he was junior or senior. He was up there playing with them boys. In high school. LeBron James.

49:30James Harrison:I'm telling you. Because he's LeBron James. I'm from Akron. Is it my bad that he's 16 and had to end up just going to the league and then dogging out there in Cleveland and didn't have no help and was still bringing him to the ship? He ain't bringing him to the ship until he came back. Man, all right. Well, bringing him close. I ain't tripping, bro. I ain't tripping. I told you, I'd give him two. I like him. I ain't got no issue, but I ain't putting him over Jordan. Yes. I ain't putting him over Jordan. Okay, look, and that's when you say that, I will not disrespect, but if you could put him two, because I don't see no other player.

50:03James Harrison:I mean, I could, everybody's, Wilt, okay, I could, like, okay, you throw him in there, But I'm going, Bron and Jordan. Bron just ended up passing because of the longevity. It's just too long. No question. No question. You play that long, you got to get it, baby. Unit, we going to hit these super chats. We got unit 25-10. Who is it? 25-10. What's unit 25-10? That's somebody living in unit 25-10. We know where you at. I just don't know where you at. $5. They said, Caleb. Caleb Johnson lost us a game, and he got buried last year. Y 'all. Okay, because they was talking about what running backs we had, and it was Jalen Warren, Rico.

50:52James Harrison:Oh, we actually had that dude on the squad. Yeah, yeah, that's what I said. He must have got buried because I didn't even hear his name. Did you know who he was? Yeah, yeah. I knew he was a running back, but he wasn't getting no burn. That ain't the cat that touched the ball and He dropped the kickoff LA LA Yeah He only played on three teams That's what she's saying He's been in the league for 23 years He's been on three teams When he first went to the Cavs You can't lie and say they didn't give him the help Like he was out there fighting for his life Trying to get him as best as he could So The way that he left Might not have been the best and the first year that he did there, okay.

51:33James Harrison:What you mean the way that he left? How did he leave? When he did the decision, people was like, oh, when he did the announcement about it, I think he could have just bounced and just slid and left him without doing the decision and leaving Cleveland thinking he was going to stay and then bouncing. So, there was a little hurt about that. So, besides that, he's been in the league 23 years. There's no real blemishes on his stuff. Everybody knew somebody mad. What'd you say? Everybody knew he wasn't staying in Cleveland, bro. I'm just saying, too. like you're not going to bring him no help and then he bounced and then all that he came back and then won a ship not like he didn't come back and then so you blaming the cast i mean at the time it was dan gilbert he said a little quick like they was talking a little crazy about him when he left like i know and i love dan love all of them but like grown grown man go where he want to go he came back won the ship oh no harm no foul Why he leave again?

52:27James Harrison:We're moving forward. Why he leave again? Why he leave again? Why he leave again? Oh, what did the cover the light say? Oh, business decision. It's time he's getting older. You know what I'm saying? Live out in LA. His son was out in school. He said bed hopping. No, he went to LA. So now when he went to LA, now I'm like, okay, smooth. Good move. You already went and won your ship back in the land. You're older. Your son is out there. Oh, so the L.A. was the business decision or was the Miami the business decision or was the Cleveland back to the business? Which one was the business decision? The business decision was to L.A.

53:05James Harrison:The back to Cleveland was like, all right, look, I got that off my back. Everybody's talking about these ships. Now, the way I left might have been a little crazy. I can go back and I wanted to win a ship for Cleveland before I left. But now I got my ship. I know because y 'all weren't bringing me no help. Now I'm going to come back here and now I'm going to try to rock out. Kyrie, Kevin Love, Squad, J.R. Smith. It happened to be beautiful. So we got him help. Everything worked. Help was there. Kyrie was there. And they was not good for a while, so they were able to get the number one pick. They got Kyrie Irving.

53:36James Harrison:You wouldn't have got him if he would have been good. Or if they could have kept Kyrie. Ooh, wee, wee, wee. But then they had Kyrie, so then they ended up winning there. And then they won the ship together. Then Kyrie, grown man, he wants to go do what he wants to do. Everybody wants to go do what they want to do. We won ships together. We did it in the land. Boom. Let's go do our own thing. Okay. Yeah. That's how it happened, Debo. Tell me. Mm-hmm. Okay. Coming to life back again, Joe. $20. She said someone in the... She said someone in the... Joe looks homeless with that jacket on. See, why they going to hit my Bench's brown jacket?

54:18James Harrison:That's crazy. It was not a typo. I said Lebanon. on. I don't care how long that cry baby has been in the league. I can't fuss with Joe. He's too kind. Love you, Joe. Thank you. Okay, cover that. Okay, he whines a little bit. That's okay. I hear what you're saying. I just can't agree anymore. Hey, listen. It's Jordan and Bron. I'm with y 'all. She said, I don't care how long that cry baby has been in the league. She fires shot. Hey, listen, man. It's been real. Hey, man, you can't call him a cry. You can't call him a cry, baby, man. He ain't crying. He's just trying to get the foul. You know what I'm saying?

55:04James Harrison:Vlade Divas really blocked the fly. You know what I'm saying? Vlade Divas was the first one to bring it in, though. I ain't going to lie to you. I think Brown might have just perfected it a little better. That's all. You know what I'm saying? Ain't nothing wrong with that, man. Mr. Stiller, fan 43, two ladders. happy birthday Joe yes sir thank you thank you you ain't gonna never see 23 again Joe guys we wanna thank you guys for joining us on this episode of Deebo and Joe please make sure you like subscribe download where you get your show make sure y 'all go to Joe's page give him a happy birthday shout out you know what I'm saying Joe thank you brother Deebo I wanna say I appreciate you my brother I'm about to go have a good time my old lady Sarah Hayden Enjoy this birthday.

55:52James Harrison:Appreciate you. Where the kids at? Kids at school. Oh, okay. You know what I'm saying? Kids at school. Go ahead and have a good time, baby. Go ahead and have a good time. Hey, if we out, I'll see y 'all boys later, all right? We gotta go.

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