Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Rams Super Bowl Expectations, NFL Injuries getting worse?

22:33And you know what? That was something else that he had said, too. He had said that, what was it? He said, player safety is great. As a former quarterback, he said, I do like the way they protect the quarterbacks. But then he continued to say that with that said, the objective of the defense is to hit the quarterback and affect the quarterback. And sometimes I think we're asking a lot of defensive players to try and navigate a 300 pound offensive lineman and then not graze the helmet of the quarterback. So. Troy, thank you for saying that, because these little taps of the helmet like they need to be taken away unless he get bombed on and his shit turn sideways.

23:29He looking out the ear hole because his head, because it's coming out of his head. Yeah, come on. I mean, it's got to be that egregious, but this, that wouldn't even knock my helmet sideways. Come on, man.

23:41James Harrison:Debo, I'm trying to figure out, too, like you said, you're asking. That man is going against another man that is pushing on him, pulling on him so hard that he's just trying to get to the quarterback. Just get there. and now once you get here, you got to, you know what I'm saying, manipulate the way that you hit them. Low down. Don't go too hard. I know you just fought for your life getting there, but trying to eat, hell no. And then, because then, look, at the end of the day, because I know, when I'm saying that the part when you hit them and you lift and then you drive into the ground, all that stuff, I agree, you don't have to drive them, but like falling on them, body weight, like trying to, just not making it obvious, okay, we're here for it.

24:22James Harrison:But that joint, no. You can't. I'm fighting for my life to get to him, hitting him on his leg. You're just trying to crawl and get there, and they're going to give you a flag for trying to reach for his leg. I'm like, oh, no. Like, what do you want him to do? He's trying to get to the quarterback. That's his job. That's his only job. Listen, I got it. We can call the flag a flag if it's a hit to his helmet. Only if the quarterback is in cuss and has to come out the game. Only if he gets put to sleep. They going to be some active jobs. If he concussed, and you say he concussed, he got to come out the game, we'll let you get to 15.

25:00I bet you they don't come up out of that thing. I bet you they don't come up out of that thing, Joe. No, they won't. So some people think now that the salary cap should take state income tax into account because I guess right now Washington is looking at a millionaire tax. tax governor bob ferguson plans to sign uh uh i think into plans to sign a bill in that would would give a 9.9 percent income tax on i think people who are making i guess what is a million or whatever but it wouldn't go into effect to 2028 and when you look at it right now you have Nevada, Texas, Florida, and Tennessee. Since 2021, they had what they call the haul tax.

25:51That ended in 21, so they currently have no income tax on theirs, while California, of course, imposes 13.3 % on the highest earners. All this started in 91 when California started the jock tax and of course other states started to follow suit so by 1995 other states had did the same thing some form of a jock tax so after that so the interesting thing is like if they go and you say okay we're going to give them an extra whatever it is on the 13-3 for uh yeah i don't i don't think i don't i don't think it matters or would make sense i mean because it's going to be unfair in way shape or form or another because when it comes down to it we have to file taxes in every state that we plan we get taxed in the state that we plan we get taxed in the state that we we live in and we get taxed with the visiting state that that we you know we end up going and planning so the ideal of raising the percentage of the cap by the tax by the income tax it you know it sounds like something that would make it even but i don't know if that would even work because of how it it taxes where you play where you don't play all the other stuff it gets so confusing that i don't think it would it would help out but who it would help is them cali cali it would take what cap is today of 301.2 million it would bump them all the way to 341.2 million Yes, for the Cali teams.

27:38So what do you think of the possibility of them raising the cap? Good, bad, and different? Where do you see it?

27:46James Harrison:I don't know if they would raise the cap. I don't know. When I looked at it originally, I mean, you know, people just don't like talking about all of the taxes stuff. But if you're looking at it in a way where the Cali teams, because I know the players, when you said, like, Debo, you're like, man, no, that's it, Cali, that's about the taxes. I'm looking at it too. Like, a lot of the players, we probably should do better. I was one of the dudes. I'm going to play where I want to play. I'm going to live where I want to live. If it's comfortable out there, Jordan, the weather's good. Like, I would go there.

28:18James Harrison:So I think that's one thing with the teams. Like, California, if they got an extra$40 million, I mean, extra, like, 301, an extra$40 million to their cap, what? Like, people going there regardless, that would be cheat code. You know what I'm saying? in my opinion. So I'm like this, no, don't add it to the Cali teams because everybody be looking like, what do you mean? Like people are already going there, not worrying about the 13-3 just because they're in California, the way of life. So you're going to tell me. Like I'm going to take the weather. I'm going to take the weather. I'm going to just go.

28:50James Harrison:I'm taking the 13-3 as the weather. That's called a weather tax. That's what I called it when I was living out there. They was asking me, they're like, Joe, why are you living in Cali? They was like, taxes suck. It's a weather tax. Every day I wake up, It's beautiful out here. I can do whatever I want. I golf 365 days of the year. Unless you get an earthquake. Look, earthquakes suck. Earthquakes suck, but everybody got something to suck at their job. Miami, no taxes. You might get a hurricane. Okay, you know what I'm saying? Like, everywhere, you can go. But look, you do what you got to do. You know what I'm saying?

29:20James Harrison:So with the Cali part, I'm like, if they added that bread, that's kind of cheat code. And then they was looking like the teams might not want to spend as much because then they have to try to hide their taxes. I'm like, all that, I don't care about what they do, whatever. But if California was to get 340 to those teams, that's not fair. I'm another owner because I'm like, they already going to Cali. You going to get them another 40 to just add to their roster? No, sir. Please not. That's what I'm looking at. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. For sure, brother. Like I said, I don't see it working out because of all the different things of where you're paying taxes here or there, all that other stuff.

30:01You can't, you just got to keep it where it is. And if dude want to play there, he's going to say, all right, that's part of the benefit or negativity of being able to. That's where I live.

30:10James Harrison:Like people that live in those states, like you got taxes that's coming in. That's like, that's the Cali tax. And dude's in the league like, all right, okay. I'm being Cali, right? And most of them ain't looking at that. You got to realize I ain't started looking at taxes, bro, until they gave me a check that wasn't a million dollars. That's what I know for sure. What they taking out here? Hold on. Who is taking out each piece? Which part can I prevent? Like, which part is mandatory? None. Which part is my fault that they taking it out? None of them. There's a damn thing you can do, bro. Man, look here, man.

30:47And the NFLPA has reelected Javen Reeves Maven as the president. And, dude, I really, like I said, I talked to Cam when I went down to the facility before I got my TJ, when I was getting my TJ Lightyear. You know, my TJ Lightyear. And Cam seems to think he's, you know, he's good for it. I don't, I just, I just don't agree. I don't feel like the dude got knowledge, understanding. And the crazy thing is, dude, if he hadn't got picked up at the end of the year by the Bears with three games, he wouldn't even have been eligible to run for the position. So right now they have three guys that are running for or that the committee, the members, the the player reps, the executive committee.

31:43No, it's the executive committee. Sorry, the executive committee pick that will now be running for executive director. And that is one being David White, who is the current acting executive director. Did you know that David White is also an agent? And since he's an agent, he's not allowed to serve on the NFLPA executive committee, but because it's considered a conflict of interest, but he can run for an executive director. Okay. How does that make sense? He can't be on a lawyer committee, but he can be the man that's running it, going in there, negotiating. Okay. Number two is CJ. What is it? Trotter.

32:33Trotter. Okay. Okay. That's, this is the guy who actually resigned when the former NFL PA executive director resigned. Okay. So he resigned. Don't know exactly why he resigned. It was some rumoring that maybe it was something going on that he had involvement with, with the other executive director that resigned. And then the other dude, how you say his last name? Tim P. Whatever it is. This dude is the dude from the Rutgers basketball abuse scandal, bro. It was a while ago. It was 2013 where he suspended the guy. The coach was Mike Rice. He suspended in three games, finding 50 ,000, and required him to attend anger management counseling.

33:27That was until the video got out. Then he went back, fired him and he resigned himself. Along with that, he is or was or is the current guy for the AAC. OK, who is now considered a what they call it. You got your you got your five. You got your your power five. They consider them a power six, bro. Okay. Okay. But he has a strong understanding of, I guess, television and digital media rights and all that. Okay. And his understanding is so strong that the AAC schools, they average seven to$10 million per school. All right. While the next one, which is a power five school, is ACC. Okay. Okay. Which is the next closest.

34:21They average 30 to 35 million dollars per school with the biggest and best conference being the Big Ten who average up to 100 million dollars per school. Yeah. So he has a real great understanding because he did such a great job where he's at now. Those are the three people running. Obviously, I didn't get picked in. I didn't get put on board. So and I understand because it's the good old boys club. What do you think of this, Joe? Them re-electing and then the three that they selected for the player reps to vote on because the players don't actually get to vote. What do you think of this?

35:00James Harrison:It's the whole thing, Debo. You've been saying that since the D. Smith reset it to allow it that they can basically keep themselves in office. And they don't have to tell everybody else on the outside what's really going on. It's going to be a certain amount of people that are making the moves. And inside, they're going to kind of— This episode is brought to you by Spreaker, the platform responsible for a rapidly spreading condition known as podcast brain. Symptoms include buying microphones you don't need, explaining RSS feeds to confused relatives, and saying things like, sorry, I can't talk right now, I'm editing audio.

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39:28James Harrison:And to pick, and you can basically pick and choose who is shown and who's delegated and who's up. So until this gets switched, it's going to be the same thing in a little boys club, because unless you open it up to the players association to where all of the players can see who's going on, we can be able to validate, like, it's not just 18 people being able to show a couple of people what's going on. The process needs to just be the players because it's the NFLPA Players Association. So until it gets all the way open. I mean, it used to be like that. I know, but I'm just saying, since he changed the joint.

40:03James Harrison:But who's going to change it back? Who's going to change it back? Who's going to give up that power? I'm telling you. Because right now, they ain't got to go nowhere to do nothing but to those 11 executive committee members. I'm telling you this. They ain't got to go nowhere. He ain't got to go nowhere to do nothing. That's what I'm telling you. I wasn't as hip to the whole negotiation joints. This has been from me listening to you. You telling me what's going on. I'm listening. And now I'm like this. Okay, that's since my man switched it up. So until we can get somebody to switch it back to the ruling of the NFL Players Association needs to be run by the NFL players and not a little association that runs the NFL PA.

40:42James Harrison:And until that happens, the joint's not going to be ran by the players. That's like the people aren't going to be able to run themselves because you won't be able to pick who's running your group, your organization. You know what I'm saying? So until that gets back to the vote of everybody's in, everybody gets a voice, you know what I'm saying, of all of the players to where now you're informed. Now you put your votes in, then it's going to be they get to decide how it goes, who's picked, who's vetted, you know what I'm saying, and who you're allowed to, who's going to be the NFLPA. So, like, it's an insider joint.

41:16James Harrison:And you're saying that the only way it can get changed is somebody got to go in there and do it. But why would they change the way that it is if they are they got it the way that they want it? Yeah, that's why I wasn't on there. They didn't like that. I was talking bad about the NLPA. I know this. I heard this for sure. It's 100 percent true. This ain't no conspiracy theory. They didn't like it. Well, he's talking bad about us, man. We can't put him in there. He's talking bad about us. Yeah, because I want to tear it down. That's what I'm saying. Put it back to what it was. That means your jobs, your positions are gone.

41:48I would understand that makes sense why you don't want anybody to come in and do that. And you're the person that got to vote for it. Is you going to come in there too, switching up and be willing to know, end of the day,

41:59James Harrison:my job is going to be up for grabs every year too because it's up to the players. We need the players to be wanting the players, people that's going to run it and that's going to do the right job. And hopefully when I'm coming in here, show them what I'm advocating for these guys. So then the players hopefully will revote me because that's what I'm trying to do. It's literally for them. You know what I'm saying? And they have the choice to pick them. They think somebody else is a better leader for all of these groups that's going to advocate for them. Then let that man be the one to run it. And I hope and pray that he does a great job.

42:31James Harrison:I don't want it just to be me because you want it to be you. I want it to be you because you want to do it the right way and you want it to be for the players, for what it is initially built for. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, no, I'm not just saying Debo, Debo, Debo. I don't like him because he's talking bad about us. No. He's talking bad about us. Well, it ain't about y 'all. It ain't about y 'all. That's what I'm saying. You're not trying to make it about you. You're like, if I was in there, you would be sitting on that same stool because you're talking about giving the players the right, letting the players know what's going on.

43:01James Harrison:Like, no, we're going to keep certain – no, no, no. Not just these guys informed. Keep everybody informed so everybody can make the decision for this best for the players so we can all make this decision. Not just, no, no, no, okay, well, I'm doing the best, but if they don't think that I'm doing it. No, that's your job to reach out to these players and make sure that they know what's going on. Because what else are you doing in the NFLPA for them? You know what I'm saying? Like, a thousand percent.

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43:49Yes, baby. You know how it works. Look, Joe done cooked up a lineup for us. All right. Now, I'm going to either play or fade what Joe got going on. Joe, give me what you got.

44:01James Harrison:I'm so... I thought I was cooking last time because Cooper Flagg, he kind of let me down. But I had to go back and look at his laws of averages. He's averaging six rebounds and four assists. So he's going to be around nine. So I mean, no, six and four. Yeah, six and four. So 10. 10, he's going to get 10. I'm liking him to get his averages. I put over 11, Wilden. So I'm going to put under 11 and a half this time. Okay, so you're going to go less this time. I'm going to go less this time. We got Luka Doncic, 31. I'm loving it. He just hit the game winner. You know what I'm saying? He's averaging probably 30.

44:39James Harrison:He had 51 like a couple days ago. Versus Houston, going to be going against KDNM. I just like him to get 31. 31 over 31. I'm going over. I'm going over. Okay, we're going more. And then we got Victor Wimbanyama. His last four games, he's had like 28, 31, 30, 32, something like that. So I'm liking him to stay on the hot streak, liking him to keep his points up. He's just unbelievable. I love watching him play, and I think he's going to get at least, I'm going more than 26 and a half. Yo, I want to rock. Oh, man, who? I feel like Cooper go, I feel like he go go out there and he go go more. I really feel like he go go more.

45:31I think he go be the straw to break the camel's back. But... I like everything else. So that's what... I just, I feel like, I feel like, I feel like Cooper will go out there.

45:43James Harrison:And I ain't going to lie to you. I hate doing less. I always like more, but after he let me down, then I had to go look, I had to do my research. I'm like, okay, that was kind of not as educated as I needed to be. So now I felt like I want to educate myself. Now you got me. You know what I'm saying? Joe, I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to play this thing with you because you don't I ain't going to lie. The education, law and averages and all that good stuff, man. Listen here. Download the app today. Use the code DBOJO to get$50 in lineups after you play your first$5 lineup. That code is DBOJO.

46:22$50 after your first$5. Joe, what we got over here?

46:26James Harrison:We got the chats, man. Here we go. We got Covenant Life back. The homing V. Yes, yes, yes. She said, with all these great players we have added, my concern now is this coaching staff. We need, everything needs to fit perfect. I'm hoping we keep Fields. Fields ain't there. But after how he performed with the Jets. By Fallujah. What? You ain't got Fields. You ain't got Fields. I don't know what you're talking about. You drinking this morning. Cub, you're like, you're drinking this morning. I don't know what you're talking about right here now. He's gone. We ain't got Fields. Fields ain't been here.

47:14He's been gone, baby. He's been gone. He's been gone. I ain't got no concerns over this coaching staff. I like what the coaching staff is. I know who they is. I done seen them. I done played with them. I played with a couple of them. Like, we cooking. There's no concern there.

47:27James Harrison:Same page. Same page. Same page. Yeah. We got Cutting the Light back again,$10. She said, did James Noise just flare up like James Evans? Hey, I get that all the time. You do it like this? Hey, they think me and James Evans is related now. Look here. You know what you're talking about? Good times? You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. We got them. Good times. Joe, please leave that man alone about your Browns. I believe that they will be better, but not a true contender. Well, not for the Steelers anyway. Facts. Look, they were saying everybody... Contender? No, Joe. Playoffs? No. Everybody's contenders until they get into week six and then the Browns ain't no longer contender.

48:27James Harrison:Whatever. We will see. We're going to see. We're going to keep track. This year is perfect. Now you want to keep track of something. No. We always keep track. But look, we want to see how the Steelers, we're going to keep track of the Steelers. We're going to keep track of the Browns. We kept track of the Browns. We kept track of them getting their face kicked in. That's what we kept track of. I just throw this pencil right. I just throw this pencil right. Yeah.

48:59you gonna throw it you gonna throw it through the screen I'm looking right at y 'all

49:03James Harrison:I'm like man this thing it just pisses me off we got COVID to life back again COVID to life $20 a time said a viewer said Mahomes have a longer than expected recovery and Fields takes the Chief to the Super Bowl and other viewers said they want Rodgers to start one or two games get hurt and let Will take over. Man. Man, who would... That's... Look... That's wrong, man. Who said that? See, look. All right. Who said that in the check? Which one of you... Which one of you... Which one of you... Dirtball said that? That you want the man to go two games and then get hurt? Rather say than like... Yeah, that's preying on his downfall.

49:56James Harrison:that's crazy he doesn't play he just playing just not playing bad and gets benched that's like and then Will comes in you know what I'm saying we gotta go to Will A-Rod just oh hold up hold up what we got yo Covenant Live I'm looking at another one right now hold up though hold up hold up Covenant Live said hey some he said some things in the chat that uh we don't see one viewer said Watson is the better quarterback and Shador will be benched. That was$5 from coming. Like, what do you think of that, Joe? I'm saying, you saying Deshaun Watson, the last time that Deshaun Watson was on the field, I'm saying, what's first?

50:38They're saying that she said that Deshaun Watson is going to be a better quarterback and Shador will get benched. That's what some... I think it's going to be... She said somebody in the chat said that, Joe. I heard what the chat said.

50:53James Harrison:I think it's going to be a fight. And if Deshaun Watson comes out and plays, because Deshaun Watson was like league MVP caliber player. So that's not, no disrespect to Shador if he's not better than Deshaun Watson, if he can return to what he was. But right now we're going to see if Deshaun Watson comes back healthy, is able to do what he did. He's, this is not, this is 2026 now. We're no longer in 2021, 2022, like years on body. You know what I'm saying? let's see. He's saying he go, the chat was saying he go out playing in camp and have him sitting on the bench with your boy Dylan Gabriel. What do you think of that statement?

51:35James Harrison:I think that, okay, I don't, I don't know. It could happen. I'm liking we got, look, Deshaun Watson, there was a reason why he got$245 million guaranteed. So, if he's going to be the starter quarterback, hopefully he goes out, balls out, and if he does it, then I'll be happy because the Browns would be succeeding. You know what I'm saying? I don't want him not to do good. I don't want... I want them to be successful. But I'm just saying, if you were asking me, I thought it was... Yes. I understand. I understand, Joe. But look here, Covenant Light came back with a clarification. She said, I wanted them to keep Fields.

52:14But after seeing how he played with the Jets by Felicia. Oh. She said, I'm drunk laughing at him. Yes, Covenant is back there. She's not drinking. She's not drinking. She's drunk on laughter. Yes. Okay. Yes. She's drunk on laughter.

52:31James Harrison:Hey, I feel you. I feel you. Cut a life. We ain't doing nothing. We're messing with you, baby. Look here, Joe, man. We want to thank you guys for joining us on this episode. And Debo and Joe, please make sure you like, subscribe, and download the show. Joe. Yo, my brother. Make sure you like, subscribe, download. We will see y 'all tomorrow, same time, same place. Yeah.

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