Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Shilo Sanders vs. Mary Kay Cabot + George Kittle Injury Update

1 May 2026 · 43 min · 18 chapters

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In short

Cleveland Browns QB competition talk (Shiloh “Shador” Sanders vs Deshaun Watson; Dylan Gabriel mentioned as not in the competition), plus George Kittle’s injury return timeline, and a Seattle Seahawks position-switch news item (Tyrone Broden from WR to CB). The episode also includes debate about sports journalism—specifically Shador’s criticism of reporter Mary Kay Cabot for perceived “emotional” takes and negativity.

Guests/backgrounds

Shiloh “Shador” Sanders (brother speaking on his brother’s behalf) and Joe (co-host). Mary Kay Cabot is discussed as a reporter, not a guest.

Key claims

Cabot is framed as giving opinionated, negative coverage rather than “facts,” and Shador argues Watson should start over him. Joe counters that competition and timing matter and that both QBs should get reps. On Kittle: Kyle Shanahan is said to be hopeful Kittle returns by season start after a torn Achilles; hosts argue 8–12 months is too fast. On Broden: hosts say the switch is hard but possible if he can tackle and learn coverage.

Notable examples

“Go make a sandwich, Mary” comment; Kittle’s Wild Card Achilles injury vs Eagles; Broden changing jersey number to 31; Seahawks WR-to-CB switch.

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Shiloh Sanders Defends His Brother

4:30 to 5:43

Discussion about Shiloh Sanders' response to media criticism of his brother.

“that I don't want you to make women look bad when it comes to reporting because you don't have the will to actually want to report real things that are going on.”

Media Dynamics in Sports Reporting

5:43 to 7:58

Exploration of how media reports affect players and perceptions in sports.

“I know you don't want to say nothing, Joe.”

The Role of Opinion in Sports Journalism

7:58 to 8:40

Discussion on the distinction between reporting facts and expressing opinions in sports journalism.

“people's parents come out there and talk and I'm like, that's my father.”

Gender Dynamics in Sports Media

8:40 to 10:47

Analysis of gender issues and biases in sports media and reporting.

“You feel like she's going at your brother on some wrong stuff, then you can say that.”

Navigating Criticism as a Public Figure

10:47 to 14:00

Insights on how athletes navigate media criticism and public perception.

“She's not giving, she's not giving, like she's not saying she'd do it through for five yards.”

Gender Dynamics in Sports Reporting

14:00 to 15:41

The hosts discuss the challenges of gender dynamics in sports commentary.

“LeBron went and stepped to Stephen A at the end.”

Referee Interactions and Gender

17:41 to 19:50

The conversation shifts to the interactions with refs, particularly female refs.

“These days, I hear about AI so often that I tend to tune most of it out.”

Quarterback Competition Insights

19:50 to 24:32

Hosts analyze the quarterback competition dynamics in the NFL.

“I'm not coming from the same spot where I think Shador should still be starting.”

George Kittle's Injury Recovery

24:32 to 28:08

Discussion on George Kittle's injury and the implications for his return.

“Kyle Shanahan, he said he is hopeful George Kittle can get back.”

Returning from Injury: The Importance of Full Recovery

28:08 to 29:25

Discussion on the necessity for athletes to fully heal before returning to play.

“If they want to let you go, they can let you go.”
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Tyrone Broden's Switch: Wide Receiver to Cornerback

29:25 to 30:53

Analysis of the challenges faced by a player switching positions in the NFL.

“Depending on what that number is that next year, if it was the 19 that he getting, if it was.”

The Skill Set Transition: Receiver to Defensive Back

30:53 to 33:50

Exploration of the skill sets required for transitioning from receiver to cornerback.

“I mean, I'm always for, if you're physical, you can tackle.”

The Lighter Side: Laughing Yourself to Death

36:58 to 38:34

Discussion about the bizarre phenomenon of laughing leading to serious health issues.

“Go on, get a little out there into the big heart of Nevada, where you can go off-road and off the map on two lakes or on horseback.”

A Thousand Ways to Die: Laughing and Health Complications

38:34 to 42:01

A humorous look at the potential dangers of excessive laughter and its implications.

“Like, yeah, I just – I don't believe it.”

Health Concerns and Laughter

42:01 to 42:58

The hosts discuss the topic of health complications humorously linked to laughter.

“Did they have all the complications, like a tumor?”

Browns' Sideline and Team Dynamics

42:59 to 44:58

The hosts and chat engage in a discussion about the Browns' expensive sideline and team dynamics.

“It said the Browns have the most expensive sideline in NFL history.”

Tattoos and Player Identity

44:59 to 47:00

A humorous debate about players getting tattoos and the significance behind them.

“Watson spent the majority of his $100 million guarantee on tattooing his back, then performing for the team.”

Tattoos in Entertainment Industry

47:01 to 49:59

An exploration of how tattoos are treated in the entertainment industry, referencing SAG cards and trademark issues.

“Those are bigger than I thought but like you still, you still don't want, You're still going crazy.”
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3:14He said, look at this right here. Oh, man, Shiloh, Shiloh, Shiloh. Shiloh was getting some pushback on this thing too here. Listen to what he said, man.

3:27where the graphic at oh we talking about yeah he went he went hard bro he went hard that ain't that ain't it though that we listen man we got we got we got we got some sound too man i guess he uh he says he said he says some words behind it ain't nothing really major but what I've been waiting to say all day, bro. And this is Tamari King. If you're going to be a reporter, be a reporter and report facts. Whenever you have your opinion and your opinion is always something hateful to Shador, then it makes it seem like it's something weird, like it's an agenda that you have going on. And there's plenty of women in this field that that take this serious and take reporting football serious and actually do homework and study the game and get the statistics right and get the news right.

4:26But with you, it's so much emotion that I don't want you to make women look bad when it comes to reporting because you don't have the will to actually want to report real things that are going on. So it don't even make sense. you want to go talk about this and that in minicamp they don't even have all the receivers how are you gonna say oh this this is what i think is gonna happen we don't care what you think is gonna happen let's should or go practice you don't need to be going on um instagram and twitter and stuff and always saying you just bad mouth them that's what i got a problem with you know i'm saying if it if it's reporting it's reporting you got facts you have news but when it comes to your opinion you've been saying crazy things for the past since he's been there so it's like just chill with that because it don't make no sense and it makes you look crazy like you don't know what you're talking about and and for all the women that actually take the time to go do their research and actually be real reporters and real journalists then that's gonna make them look bad bro because you already know as a woman in this field of reporting football and sports like it's hard so don't make it hard on everybody just because you don't feel like it That's all I got to say about that.

5:43What you got to say, Joe? What you got to say about that, Joe? Dang. What you got to say, Joe? Listen. You go ahead. I know you don't want to say nothing. I know you don't want to say nothing, Joe. Go ahead. You go first. I know. This is the Browns. You go. You got it.

6:08James Harrison:So some of the... Hello? He didn't... A little bit of that was uncalled for. You know, like that... Okay, it was aggressive. But there's some... I don't want to get... I don't even know if I'm going to go with it. Because it's... He put her by name. It's Mary Kay Cabot. So that's the reporter that's been there. She was there when I was there. And some of the Browns reporters, just when he says they just report negativity because we always losing, and that is what it is. Shador can rub people in Cleveland the wrong way when you're losing, and you just carry yourself like a confident young man. So when she's saying, was always pushing the Dylan Gabriel over Shador, now he just feels like, you're shooting at my brother.

6:51James Harrison:He's obviously better than Dylan Gabriel, but the things that I feel like where he feels with Mary Cabot is always going to report on, not going to report about the good on Shador, not going to report on the good things he does. You're going to find the bad. You're going to find the negative. That's why when Shador does his interviews, he's like, Cleveland media, y 'all got to change the vibes because there's this way, winning changes everything. Coach Todd Monk has said the same thing. There's not a lot of good to talk about. It's all good at the preseason before games happen. So the media, for a reason, has kind of built up emotion.

7:24James Harrison:They always just talk negativity because it always sounds good and it doesn't. And then when you got somebody like Shador where he doesn't really need your approval from the media, I think some of them take that the wrong way. Like, I can make you feel, but I'm going to write like certain things about you. You're going to. I mean, in a sense, it kind of feels like he may need the approval because they're actually speaking on something that was said and saying that he's saying that he sees this. He gets tired of seeing this all the time. The same when Shador hasn't spoken and said anything out of pocket.

7:57James Harrison:This is his brother. This is Shiloh speaking the same way. people's parents come out there and talk and I'm like, that's my father. He's going to say what he wants to say. I can't tell him exactly what to say. My brother, my cousin. We're talking about Shiloh. We're not talking about how you feel about what Shiloh said. Shiloh didn't need to go all the way there. You know what I'm saying? You can feel a certain type of way about, if that's your brother and you're going to speak on how you feel about somebody reporting on him, I think it was the you don't want women to feel a certain type way, you don't have to go all air.

8:32James Harrison:If you don't feel like she's doing a good job as a reporter and she got certain angles, say that. It's already hard for women reporters out here. I'm like, it's getting a little messy. Just keep it on subject. You feel like she's going at your brother on some wrong stuff, then you can say that. But all that other, just keeping it going, if you got a point to make about Mary Kay saying and reporting falsely on your brother, then stay on that and then just don't go all the other places say you're a little piece about your brother for show because that's how you feel and I think some of the reporting you could have it honestly like look back at it I don't think I've married K known him for a while but you know it might not be the best you know so it is just tough so uh you know he's talking about you know her emotional state all the other stuff she's too emotional i mean she's been doing this since what the late i'm telling you this right um she actually won the bill nun memorial award last year which is given to the top football journalist so she has she has knowledge in what it is that she's talking about and what it is that you know what's going on whether she's female or not so So if it wasn't, she would have been out of this game a long time ago.

9:54I think what he's upset about is, like you said, he's talking about his brother. And the big thing is he's saying report on the facts. OK, I think when you start looking at reporter, like I think we need to get that word away from sports reporter and have it as what it is. And that's a sports journalist. OK, because a reporter gives you facts. The only thing a sports reporter can give you facts on is numbers, because that's the only thing that can't change and has no opinion or anything else based to it. All right. Reporters do two things. They interpret and they give their opinion of that interpretation.

10:34That's their job. There's no emotional feelings about it. It's your opinion. You can have emotional feelings to your opinion. But the fact is, bro, she is a sports journalist. she is not 60 minutes she ain't the news that's supposed to tell you the truth and just report what it is they found to be facts-based it's nothing facts-based about football other than the numbers that you put out everything else is journalist opinion orientated about what you feel is best t.j watt is the best football player ever that's opinion based now if i was to say what did miles garrett get last year 23 sacks now if i say miles

11:20James Harrison:garrett got 23 sacks that's facts based yes if i see miles garrett's the greatest player to ever play that's my opinion

11:29like she's a beat writer bro like that's what she does day in day out everything since 80s that's all she does like i think she might have a little bit of something there but i think the issue is he said it about a female that's what it comes because at the end of the day if it was a dude bro i could tell a dude reporter to his face man if he's fat man you a fat piece of shit don't know nothing about what you're talking about even though he may have been in the game 20 30 years and there'll be nothing said about it yeah no no for sure but because she's a female is something said about this and the fact that he actually pointed out the fact that she's a female and that by some standard of her being a female, that she's going to make it harder for other females because she doesn't know what she's talking about.

12:12She's not giving, she's not giving, like she's not saying she'd do it through for five yards. She's giving her opinion on what she feels. You can't change somebody's opinion. Like, that's just it.

12:24James Harrison:I think they should declare Watson. I feel, I think. She's not saying the team is going to do this. I think they should declare Watson QB1 ASAP. and let the first team offense start to cook. There's no time to waste. Yes. Her opinion there is that she thinks that Watson needs to instantly start and Chador shouldn't be starting. So when she says that, that's her opinion. I think it's the same thing. That's her opinion. Her opinion. That's her opinion. And then he's saying go make a sandwich. She's a journalist. She's a journalist. She's not a reporter. She's not reporting anything that is, you're a journalist.

13:10Take off sports reporter and just put a journalist.

13:12James Harrison:That's what he's saying. Just put a journalist. She ain't out there talking about my man threw for 10 yards on third down. He just wanted, basically what he's saying, you had bad opinions. But to go make a sandwich, Mary, I think he's just trying to be funny. Yes. Like, go make a sandwich, Mary. You could have said anything but go make a sandwich. You can't say go make a sandwich to a woman in the sports field. You can put, you know what you say? You can say, if you feel, bad take. You know what I'm saying? Not the go-to. That was the one that kind of threw me all like, God, come on, come on, Shiloh.

13:50Yeah, man. I mean, like I said, if it was, if it was a guy, man, I don't even see, I don't even see this being brought up. Like, this ain't even a conversation. Man, how many people done fuck? Think about this. LeBron went and stepped to Stephen A at the end. Yes, he did. If you was to do that to a female reporter, your ass be canceled to death. Yes, yes, yes. Facts, facts, facts, facts. Yes, yes, yes. Facts, facts, facts. You got, we got to be very, very aware and conscious of our, our audience and who it is that we, we talking to. Like, especially today. Bro, it's wild. You can get away with a lot with a dude.

14:38You know? Like, do bro a favor and don't even say nothing, bro. Don't even say nothing. Like, y 'all just go ahead and feed on that internally and let that motivate you and drive you. Talk about it at the crib. Don't even bring it out.

14:52James Harrison:I know Shalit is just trying to protect his brother and speak out on how he feels because he feels like that's a bad take. Your opinion is terrible. You don't need to be reporting on football if you think Deshaun needs to be starting over my brother. That's what I feel like he's saying. That's what he's saying. But then he's going to say, make me a sandwich. It's just not going to help your brother because now she's the reporter on your brother. It's going to be there in front of him every day. Now you just doing something he don't need. None of. Yeah. I can tell you. Like, man, you don't even know what you talk about, man.

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18:39When you start putting females into the reffing part, Like, dude, how crazy do we talk to them refs, bro? And now you go and you're like, oh. Oh, no, for sure.

18:49James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? You're like. You can't say that. Damn. And maybe you're not even realizing. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Before you even, you get the flag on you, da-da-da, you thinking you ain't did it. And before you even get through, you know you done already said, oh, put that. Yeah. And you look. And there's another one. Right at. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. She done hit you again. Oh, man. Yeah, for sure, man. Yeah, just comment. Yeah, just take a step back next time. Just think about it. That's something I had to do a lot of. Be like, you know what?

19:29Should I say that? Let me play it out in my head. What can happen from that that's going to be negative? And what can happen from that that's going to be positive? Yeah. This whole time? I mean, yeah. Yeah, I'm going to do that. I don't need to say that, brother. It's not for me to put it out there.

19:47James Harrison:I understand what he's saying because, look, I'm coming from the same – I'm not coming from the same spot where I think Shador should still be starting. And we still got a lot of time. We're talking about – she's just first couple of days of training camp. And I'm saying this – everybody's going to look good. So we still got a long way to go for the season. We're going to talk about it all the time because things happen in the real time. So I'm just understanding like, okay, boom, Watson's going to be – but we still got preseason. We still want Shador has so much more time to show, you know what I'm saying?

20:19James Harrison:How good he is, how elite he is. So does Deshaun Watson. So it's going to be, I'm not, nobody should never be against competition. As long as you still in there with the ones, you know what I'm saying? I'm not mad. Never. You can't be mad at competition. I'm never, but you know, it do look like the Browns is Browning. I would have to say that. I would have to say it's looking, I mean, and on top of the fact, I think, what's your coach's name? Munkin. he said he wanted to figure out who the starter was before training camp, right? I'm not going to put words in. Yeah, I believe he said that in the article.

20:51He wanted to figure out who the starter was before training camp. Like, we need to start getting to it. At some point,

21:04James Harrison:like, you know what? No, bump it. That's the thing. When I'm saying that, if they I want a quarterback competition I do want a quarterback competition I do actually you know what I'm saying that's the thing but you do know that the person that's playing at 1 if they come back out the next day at 2 it does not look good I understand that but you know what especially for all these if it's a competition though if it's a competition though one day Shador should come out at 1 I think the next day Deshaun Watson might come out at 1 they probably going to switch it up because if it's a legitimate competition what about Dylan Dylan Gabriel is not in the quarterback competition.

21:44James Harrison:Because right now we got two. It's either going to be Deshaun Watson because he's back healthy and he's making$40 million a year, or it's going to be the starting quarterback that we had to end the season that I thought was progressing better than when I saw Dylan Gabriel. All those dunk passes, he just didn't really have the arm strength that I thought that we needed. I seen Shadon make some passes, make some throws. I was like this, okay, that's NFL starting quarterback worthy. I can get it done with that. So now I'm looking at we got the weapons. So what's up? So my thing is this. What was so drastically different between what Shador was doing, what Watson was doing, that it caused them to actually switch them and give him the starting with the O-line and the majority of the snaps to where the day before it was supposed to be Shador getting the most snaps and starting.

22:46What was so different that it was like, oh, day one was so this that we got to switch it come day two. No. That has to be something had to be drastically different.

22:59James Harrison:I think it's$40 million and it's rep counts. So he's going to start. It's$40 million. That's why Shador's going to get it for the one day? And then Deshaun's going to get it. I think they're just – So you're going to put yourself in a situation where you done paid a dude $230 million, and you're going to put it in a situation where he may come out there and get you some wins, play better than what Shador did, and now be looking at having to pay him again? They're not going to pay him again. So why even put him out there to do it? Because you already paid him, and he's on the team. Okay, so why not go with the guy you go run with?

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23:41James Harrison:That's what I would do. That's what I'm saying. The Brown, they saying that they were looking at it the other way. There's two ways to look at it. Go with the young dude that you got because you already gave up the$200 million. Or now he's healthy. Let's see where he can. Can we get anything out of this money? Because Chidor is still under contract for the next two years. So we're not going to sign him to any more bread. If he goes out here and balls out and does whatever he got to do, I'm still not signing because you talk about backpacks. That's a lot. He go out there and he put up numbers that he put up.

24:12James Harrison:He's going to be a free agent. He's going to go sign with another team for that big bag, and that's going to be on somebody else's problem. Okay. Honestly, because after that, I mean, what are we going to give him that? Was it 60 a year after that? No. Fool me once. I'm just saying, y 'all. Fool me once. Shame on you. And you said you won't get to the fool me twice. Hey, no question. No question. Hey, what'd he say? Fool me once. Shame on you. Fool me twice. Can't get fooled again. What'd he say? Come on, D-Bo. Not going to know, bro. You fool me 230. Yo, man, listen. Listen, man. Going over here.

24:56Kyle Shanahan, he said he is hopeful George Kittle can get back. I guess. Ooh, he did. I guess Kittle suffered a, what do you call it, a Kittle's injury in the wild card game. Dude, the wild card game against the Eagles. And now Shanahan said the goal is that he's ready to start the season. The initial time frame for Kittle's return was somewhere between 8 and 12 months, which is the average for a torn Achilles injury.

25:29Joe, you think they trying to, like, y 'all trying to do too much here? Is that too fast for an Achilles return?

25:36James Harrison:Brother, way too fast. I don't know what's going on there, brother. He must be going overseas getting some different... I don't know. I don't know how... You tell me about that because that seems a little quick. Okay. Okay. Go ahead and talk to me. Let me talk to you. Let me talk to the people. Look here, man. If you want to come back from Achilles in the time frame he's talking about, man, you got to go and talk to the aliens or something. Like, I don't know about this, man. Here we go. I'm not a doctor, but I do pretend to be one sometimes.

26:20I might have stayed at a Holiday Inn or something like that last night, but here it goes. that timetable for his achilles return bro that is not happening and he better not even risk it this is why he don't need to risk it this man has a fully guaranteed money on 26 and 27 this right here is where he goes i'm him one he is 33 years old joe if i'm him i am making sure i am 100 i'm not returning to next year in 27 where i still got a fully guaranteed payment and you ain't gonna cut me and now i can go and show you at 34 that i'm fully healthy and ready to go because he still got, what is it, two years after that left?

27:15Okay, okay, I'm here, I'm here. There's no way in hell I am coming back to play anytime this season. This is what I'm telling you.

27:25James Harrison:So, I'm hearing you. Are you slow, are you, but you're still, but you're, just say, but you're rehabbing like you're trying to get back. Mm-hmm. I'm rehabbing. As if you're trying to get back. Like I'm trying to get healthy. Ooh, okay. Right. Rehabbing like you're trying to get back means you're speeding up the process and going on. OK, I think I could push it harder here and there because of this, that and the third. No, I'm going to your timeline is set. Your timeline is set. My timeline is I'm already looking at a year as long as I get to where now you got to realize, dude, you got to put them Achilles, that Achilles under tension.

28:08like you got to do heavy sled pushes and all that to get that impact of that press of that where you pushing down and like he's he got to cut he got to do all that like it's do not jump back on that field before you are 100 healed and ready to go and even when you come back like most cats they say what is that six nine months when you come that make it back that early they're still not 100 they ain't got all that yeah no no for sure and you can't cut like no thousand

28:37James Harrison:You come back already with a lesser step. 100%. You got to come back 100%. Take your time. Guaranteed money. Guaranteed money. Take your time. Do not jump out there. Take your time. You got money on 26 and 27. If they want to let you go, they can let you go. I tell you this. And you can take the time to get paid and get back healthy. This is the good case scenario for the player where he got his brain. You know what I'm saying? And unfortunately, you got hurt, but you got guaranteed. If you didn't, they would cut your ass so fast. And this was the last of the guarantee. They'd be like, ah, George, it's been real.

29:21James Harrison:It's been super real. Last of the guarantee. But we got to part ways. Stop it. Depending on what that number is that next year, if it was the 19 that he getting, if it was. Yeah. Bye bye. I ain't mad at him. That's what that business is. Yeah, it ain't no nigga. A lot of guys say, well, I'm going to come back early because my money is guaranteed. So if I do get hurt again, no, you setting yourself up for failure later on down the road. I'm coming back because my money guaranteed. And ain't nothing nigga. No, your money's guaranteed. Right. Get 100 % healthy, then come back. You get in your 30s with guaranteed dough, you won.

29:58James Harrison:You won. You won, George. And you got guaranteed at 34 and 35. You double one. They start playing with me, man. Look here, Seattle over there playing. What's going on? Seattle announced a 6 '5 wide receiver will attempt a rare position switch to cornerback, bro. Former Arkansas wide receiver Tyrone Broaden will attempt to make the transition from wide receiver to corner. No. He said he, Broden, sorry, Seattle Seahawks' Tyrone Broden, who is moving from receiver to corner, also changed his jersey number to 31. The team wrote on the official website. Wow. Joe, what do you think of the chances of him being able to pull this off and have any form of success?

30:52James Harrison:I just need to see what kind of receiver. Is he coming out of his breaks? Is he going to be physical? Is he going to be able to tackle? I mean, I'm always for, if you're physical, you can tackle. You play wide receiver, so you obviously have ball skills. Just is going to be, are you afraid to tackle? And that's my whole thing. Are you afraid to tackle? And can you figure out the defenses? Besides that, I like taller, long receivers. The bigger you are, you know what I'm saying? The better ball skills you have, the more opportunities you can get picks. So my thing is footwork is going to be really physicality.

31:29James Harrison:Are you ready? Can you tackle? And that's basically my whole thing because that's what it is. If you can cover, if you can tackle. I understand, but he reacting to somebody now. At 6 '5", you reacting. They ain't reacting to you. Before, he knew where he was going. Now he's trying to figure out where to go. We're going to have him in a little bit. That's what I'm saying. If he's a good route runner and he's able to come out of his breaks, smooth. Richard Sherman, still kind of tall, long, and not the quickest coming out of the breaks. Yeah, but he played corner. He's playing corner. He didn't go from receiver to corner.

32:03James Harrison:He did play receiver, and he transferred to corner. Not in pro. Bruh. I'm going to say give it a chance. Now he's going to know. You're going to know. The smarter part is the receivers, they know route concepts. They understand offenses. So that part makes it so much easier to go to the defensive side. You over that joint, you got, all right, we got cover too. Now you're analyzing. You know what I'm saying? What are these receivers running? What are their splits? So I think the mental aspect is going to be helping out tremendously. But I think the physical part of don't just be able to throw your stuff in there.

32:39James Harrison:Be able to tackle. You know what I'm saying? Not be afraid of the noise. So I think that. So I love tall corners, like being able to get hands on, being able to make plays on the ball. I like them. if they can make the play. I mean, that's a hard switch. That is. Right now. It ain't like he did it in college. Bro, I'm trying to tell you, if you're an athlete and you outside wide receiver. And you listen, in college you get to do it and stay there and keep trying it the next year and the year after that. If this don't work, this offseason, they can cut it. Wide receiver, but look, this is what I'm telling you.

33:11James Harrison:He got, he's transferring his position because obviously wide receiver wasn't working. So he was about to get his ass sent home anyway. So he like this, man, shit, I can play corner. They're like, all right, but you know what? Let me throw your big ass over there and see if you can play corner, see if you can make this team. Because at wide receiver, he wasn't over there looking like JSN and them other dudes, so they was like, hey, bro, you might not be on the team. Look, I feel like Buddy when I was over there at Florida. I lined up a wide receiver. I was behind Percy Harvin. You telling me you don't feel like, okay, I might not be on the team, but you don't feel like you can get another job at that position on another team?

33:48It's 31 other teams.

33:50James Harrison:Let me tell you something. Right now, with him, that league, and I don't know his situation, but right now it's looking like this. He'll play long snapper. He's trying to stay in the damn NFL. So I will go change my position.

34:07The hardest, one of the hardest, the hardest position, like as far as skill-based to go to. Bruh. You're going to just change it.

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37:27James Harrison:Some of the ride receivers that couldn't catch go to DB. that's not a real thing because I can catch but I switched when I went to where I receiver I was behind Percy Harvin there's a little bit different twitchiness and receiver skills when they get that ball in their hand than corners I feel like like us we can still got the twitchiness but all you gotta do be able to you saying you saying you can't get out once you get that ball in your hand I was twitchy I was twitchy but I wasn't like Percy twitchy I was going you had you had that I was like you ain't had that I had that But see, Percy Harvin made me feel like I wasn't twitchy.

38:04James Harrison:So say I was like Emmanuel Sanders. Me and Emmanuel, I was like Emmanuel Sanders at wide receiver. But Percy just a little bit twitchier. I was like, oh my goodness, okay. I don't got that in my bag. He had that tat, tat, tat, tat, tat in his bag. Okay. I only had the tat, tat, tat. No, let's stop going too far. That was too many. I'll give you tat. Tell him. Maybe tack. That's it. You went too far. You went way too far. Joe, I seen you get the ball and you intercept it. You had tack. Man. That was it. They wasn't blocking. Like, yeah, I just – I don't believe it. I can't believe it. Brother. Hey, man, the Giants kicker, they say he saved – a man say he saved his life.

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39:44Wow. I don't know about that. You telling me he laughed so hard that he's. Yes. What? He laughed so hard. See, that's when I don't know. I mean, look. Hey, any doctors in the chat? Is this possible? Bro, Debo. A thousand percent. A thousand. I can laugh so hard I can have a damn season, Joe.

40:08James Harrison:Yes. I know it. Oh, I did. Yeah, you got it. You got it. Okay, now you already got something. For sure. I've seen some stuff on, like, I was watching that crazy show, like A Thousand Ways to Die. I watched that before. It's not a good show to watch. I wouldn't recommend it. But it shows some of the most random things. and somebody laughed their self to death. Debo. Like, couldn't stop laughing. Joe! It's a real thing because I've been caught sometimes laughing so hard. Oh, I can't tell you what I was going to tell you when you're on air. Oh, man. I'll tell you later. I was going to tell you something about laughing yourself to death.

40:45I'll tell you. I'll tell you. It's a real thing. Joe, listen, man. You ever watched... damn, you too young. You ever watch Roger Rabbit? Yeah. The cartoon movie? Yes. Where the toons, they're in toontown and all that, and the dude, he tells the toons they need to stop laughing or they go laugh themselves to death. Okay, so.

41:17Oh. Somebody I know.

41:23Somebody What did they do? So They They ended up They ended up Doing They ended up doing like Some marijuana Okay so they was high You get there and catch them giggles But they got They got so high That they believed Because they was laughing so hard They believed that they was going to die because they remembered that movie. And it said, so they could have actually died. That's what you're telling me. They could have, actually.

42:01James Harrison:Man, get the hell out of here, Joe. All right. All right. Well, I'm going to get you crazy. Joe, you can't laugh yourself. I will. I'm going to send it to you after. And I'm not saying that's good. Oh. Did they have all the complications, like a tumor? No. Just laugh theyself. Good and healthy. Good and healthy. Clean sheet of health. And nowhere in hell, Joe. Ain't no way in hell, Joe. Joe, you're going to have to send me that. I'm going to send it to you. I don't see no good and healthy man laughing to self to death. All right. Woman, child. What's the name of this, Joe? A Thousand Ways to Die, but that's not, I'm like.

42:38A Thousand Ways to Die, and you're telling me one was laugh yourself? It had to be something added to that, Joe. All right. It got to be high blood pressure or something. You got to have something going on.

42:48James Harrison:Okay, it must have been a, it could be a complication, but I just know. It got to be some complications, though. Yeah, you got to find that for me, man. Let's go on over here, man. See what's going down in the chat, man. Listen, here it goes. Please, chat. Super chat. Covenant Life is back. $5. Very, very true statement. It said the Browns have the most expensive sideline in NFL history. Browning 175 32 175 32 years as a Steelers fan I don't we do not care okay respect Covenant it's all good Covenant live back again $20 you got a stadium our stadium is fire that's what y 'all gonna love y 'all gonna come out there See that great Brown Stadium?

43:452.7 billion.

43:45James Harrison:It ain't even by the water. It don't matter. You ain't going to be able to see the water. It's going to look so fire. It's going to be in a hole with restaurants and hotels. Yeah. Once y 'all get everything built up around, it ain't just in the middle or nothing right now. Building the whole city. You tripped. Tim Hazlum's going to have that thing looking. Bah! Bah, bah. Go ahead. Joe, coming to life back with$20. She said, I know you didn't ask me, but Shiloh sounds like 47, and I hate that. All reports are not going to be good. Why do you have to bring up women reporters? Brady had a harsh criticism, and still viewed as the GOAT.

44:33Listen.

44:36James Harrison:It don't matter. Like you said, all reporters aren't good. Everybody got a job to do. Everybody got a job to do, man. It's your opinion. As long as you stick around, your opinion is valid because they ain't got rid of you yet. It's your opinion. Your opinion might not – people don't agree for your opinion. You know? It's your opinion. We got Pitfall – Pit Fan, sorry. Pit Fan,$88.59. $5. Injury aside, Joe. Watson spent the majority of his $100 million guarantee on tattooing his back, then performing for the team. Browns. Browning Browns suck. With this one? I think that's what Browns players do, get put to sleep and get tattooed.

45:31Shut up, man. That's the Debo guy. Wow. That's crazy. Joe, I was just asking. No. Look, I... How many... Okay, let me ask you a serious question. Serious question. Serious question. How many players that played for the Browns do you know of that went to sleep to get full body tattoos?

45:54James Harrison:I'm not speaking on that. I'm not speaking on any of that. I'm not putting it... Nope. I'm just... R-A-D. Nope. I'm just asking you a question. Probably none. I didn't ask you names. I said... I don't think none. I think it might be more... It's more Stellas. Honestly. What? Odell? You? Okay. There's two. Who on the field? I'm not about to sit out here and call out my dogs. Exactly. Exactly. That's what I thought, man. We don't care. That's what I thought. Let me just let you know what it is. I don't care. I'm not going to call my dogs out. We don't have none, Joe. You do. Joe. Yeah, Deshaun. Listen.

46:32Deshaun. No. Joe. I'd rather get a shot of adrenaline so I could stay woke for 24 hours and get my whole body tatted like a man while I'm awake. No, you wouldn't.

46:47James Harrison:That's why you still got them, that's why you got five little tats because you know them jumps hurt and you're swole and you was like, ah, like why would I sit there and take that pain that long? So that's why you got five little individual jumps and you chilling. Oh no, hold on. Okay, you forearms. Okay. Those are bigger than I thought but like you still, you still don't want, You're still going crazy. Joe. What are you talking about, Joe? Joe. Joe. I don't go crazy. You know why I don't go crazy, Joe? I sit down and do that. I sit down and do all that. You know why I don't go crazy, Joe? I don't go crazy because I need it to be something on me that I know really means something.

47:26James Harrison:Bro, everything I got means something. I don't want to put a tattoo of me on there in a jersey and uniform that ain't mine. I just happen to wear it and then somebody else will be wearing those colors. I don't care. When it was on me, it was mine's. And I rocked that joint like it was mine's. I owned it. Hey, Joe. They would never stand two. Come on, you both. Joe, you want me to let you in on a secret? What? You know, when you get tattoos that are like other people's or other organizations or other groups, you got to get a write-off to show that on TV or you got to cover it up. So what you mean?

48:26James Harrison:No. So like you can't... Like say movies, if you're acting, if you had a sad card like me... Oh, if I had a sad card, my bad. I ain't have to cover up none of my tattoos. If you were an actor, I'm just saying, if you were an actor, then that... If you got a logo, you got Iron Man, you got Wolverine, all that. Like if somebody trademarked, you got to cover that up. They ain't allowed to show that. You know? So the makeup lady got to put a whole bunch of makeup on you. And then like when we did that, CM Punk had to make up his whole body. Because he had tattoos on him. It's crazy. They was like, yo, you got who did the thing, da-da-da, all that other stuff, dude.

49:17You can have your tattoos. But you can have your tattoos. You either got to get a release or let them know it's yours. That's it.

49:27James Harrison:It's crazy. Man, I'm going to get a... So if I get my SAG card, then I can have my tax out. If you get that SAG card, to have that in there, the NFL will sue them. They'll be like, you ain't put the license in. We need licensing for that. Y 'all ain't pay us to have that in there. I need the NFL to chill. I'm just telling you, Joe. I'm just letting you know. It ain't yours, man. It's like music rights, man. You can't just put somebody's music and just make it yours without talking to them. You know what I'm saying? Same thing, man. That's their property, man. You belong to them. You can't even show that.

50:01Man, shit. They ain't said nothing yet. Hey, don't get no Debo Bar. I trademarked that. That's mine. No. You got it. All right? I'm just letting you know. I don't want to have to come up after you. No, brother.

50:13James Harrison:Nope, nope, nope. I ain't hard to find. You know? What's up, man? We got some more Super Chats? we got one more company just came back around five dollars he said chat I will be the guest on Monday tell everyone you know it will be fun she will have this joint turned cause she will be going smack at me the whole time though for sure for sure next week on the 5th we do have a guest we do have a guest we call him Big Snack Big Snack we got Big Snack the coldest nose you ever played a game baby they gonna have Big Snack can't see him Big Hampton yes sir on the 5th on the 5th look here baby we wanna thank you guys for watching us on this episode of D-Bo and Joe.

51:21Please make sure you like, subscribe, and download where you get your show. Joe, we will

51:27James Harrison:see y 'all on Monday, same time, same place, with Big Ham. Let's get it. On Tuesday, we will see y 'all with Big Ham. That's my bad. Monday, we will be right back. Okay, D-Bo, that's on me. That's on me.

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