Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Skattebo's CTE joke , Malik Willis ready to thrive in Miami, Abdul Carter Changes Numbers

23 Mar 2026 · 38 min · 18 chapters

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In short

NFL talk focused on jersey-number choices, Malik Willis’ readiness for a starting role with the Miami Dolphins, Justin Fields’ career trajectory after multiple teams, and a controversy about “CTE jokes” (Skattebo) plus discussion of CTE risk and memory issues.

Guests/backgrounds

Deebo Samuel and Joe Burrow (former NFL players). Deebo shares experiences about being assigned/paid for NFL jersey numbers (including Cleveland Browns training camp numbers and paying for a single-digit). Joe discusses humility, quarterback readiness, and personal/observed memory effects.

Key claims

Malik Willis’ media answers are praised as humble and non-arrogant; Justin Fields’ move to Kansas City is framed as a chance to prove he can be sustainable without needing to be “Mahomes”; Skattebo’s CTE/asthma joke was condemned and followed by an apology; CTE is described as real and widespread, with the hosts discussing their own memory concerns and “brain health” routines.

Notable examples

Lawrence Taylor’s retired No. 56 being declined; Willis joining the Dolphins; Fields potentially starting Week 1 with KC if Mahomes isn’t back; Skattebo’s Bring the Juice apology; a study cited about 92% of former players showing CTE-related findings; Steelers Super Bowl win list corrected live.

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Abdul Carter's Number Change

4:30 to 7:30

Discussion about Abdul Carter's decision to change his jersey number.

“Something in memory, but like, I'm going to make mine, mine.”

Number Switching in the NFL

7:30 to 11:20

A discussion on the implications of switching jersey numbers and player legacy.

“you was in the 40s I had number 4-0 for the first day that's a first round draft choice That's crazy.”

Malik Willis: Ready to Thrive

11:20 to 13:30

Analysis of Malik Willis's readiness to be a starting quarterback.

“I was like, for sure we going behind me.”

Humility in Media Responses

13:30 to 14:02

Discussion on the importance of humility in player interviews.

“Like, that question, what do you mean, do you think I was ready?”

Media Training Insights

14:02 to 14:16

Explore how effective media training can shape athlete expectations.

“I think he's really good media trained and he's just being a smart dude.”

Quarterbacks and Expectations

16:38 to 19:03

Discuss the challenges and expectations for quarterbacks in the NFL.

“This is Julian Edelman from Dudes on Dudes with Gronk and Jules.”

The Future of Justin Fields

19:03 to 20:28

Analyze Justin Fields' career trajectory and potential as a starter.

“looking for, you know, and the only thing that's going to determine that is the status of how he plays, how well he does it.”

CTE Discussion and Controversy

20:28 to 27:26

Examine the implications of CTE jokes and public perception.

“Joe, this is not a good stat I want to be a part of.”

Reflections on CTE Awareness

27:26 to 28:00

Consider the importance of CTE awareness and player health.

Understanding CTE in Sports

28:00 to 29:19

Learn about the impact of CTE on athletes and its prevalence in football.

“And like, it's not, dude, it's not a joke.”
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Cognitive Health and Memory Issues

29:20 to 30:57

Discuss cognitive health practices and memory challenges faced by athletes.

“My people, they got to tell me when we did some vacations or whatever.”

The Importance of Memory in Sports

34:09 to 35:38

Explore how memory plays a crucial role in an athlete's performance and coaching.

“Let them color correct anywhere and everywhere.”

Reflecting on Past Experiences

35:39 to 37:20

Listen to anecdotes about the struggles of recalling past games and achievements.

“Like, this man played back in the day when the hammer was like.”

Fan Interaction and Team Dynamics

37:21 to 41:26

Hear interactions with fans and discussions about team performance and expectations.

“Hey, they cut my man's pay at one point about a year or two ago.”

Steelers Super Bowl Legacy Discussion

41:27 to 42:00

Engage in a conversation about the Pittsburgh Steelers' Super Bowl wins.

“You could have wore a 40 and been okay with it, bro.”

Super Bowl Trivia Challenge

42:00 to 43:32

Listeners learn Joe's struggles with Pittsburgh Steelers Super Bowl wins.

“Because they're like, oh, buddy got 40 in the corner.”

Debating Team History and Wins

43:32 to 45:41

Debo and Joe debate the history of the Steelers' Super Bowl wins and rival teams.

“I got to go back in my Rolodex and I got to see me playing and look at the team.”

Fan Dedication and Sacrifice

45:41 to 47:32

Discussion on fan dedication to teams and the lengths some would go for their favorites.

“I thought it was three Dallases, though.”
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3:05James Harrison:Lenovo, Lenovo. Google Carter from the New York Giants, brother. He changed his jersey number. I guess he revealed it after Russell posted. So, he is now going to wear number three. making the switch after, of course, Russell departed. Yes. Carter went viral for requesting to wear a Giants legend, Lawrence Taylor's 56 last season, in which Lawrence Taylor respectfully declined. Get another number. I don't care if it's double zero and then make it famous. Yo. Yo. You got any issue with guys switching numbers and doing all that other stuff? You know, he had some issues last year. I guess he got benched twice for some disciplinary reasons, missing all that.

4:00James Harrison:I don't got a problem with people switching numbers. I don't have a problem with. My thing is, when you come in, though, I'm not asking nobody for no retired number that's out there already. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's retired for a reason. That man went and did that. Like, that's my talent. of all time. He's greatest. So you go get your, like, you want to go set that legacy? Get a number like, right, he got 56, try to get like 55 or you want to step up 157. Something in memory, but like, I'm going to make mine, mine. The way Lawrence Taylor made him, him. Like, I just, my thought, if I'm coming in, I just got too much respect and you got to, you got to start your own.

4:44James Harrison:Like, you are you, you are you. You coming in as a rookie, come set your own legacy, set your own, trajectory. You're trying to get on the field, see what the NFL's talking about. Get your feet wet. You know what I'm saying? Understanding the game. I feel like that's just putting unneeded pressure on yourself also. You're already first round pick. You already got the target on you. Now I'm trying to go get Lawrence Taylor's jump, letting them know I'm here. It's me. I'm like, no. You got to kind of chill a little bit. For me, for me, my mindset is coming in here, I got to come figure it out myself, get my legacy going, get my feet wet, stand on my own 10.

5:22James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? Like, that's just additional pressure. It's just, I feel like it's just, you didn't need it. It's unwarranted. And then that's going to just make people look at you like, you already a first round pick. We already know you need to come out here and snap. And now you're saying you're going to come take LT's number out of retirement? Oh my goodness. Like, I mean, it's just, you can't kind of be that good off rip. You can't. You know what I'm saying? You kind of outkicked your coverage trying to get something. You're putting something on your back that's like, no, I know.

5:52James Harrison:You just don't do it. I just wouldn't do it. The extra pressure, ah, it's tough. Yeah, I don't care about the switching of numbers, dude. I don't really care. It is what it is. Some guys like certain numbers. They feel like they like it better. They play better, whatever it may be. Yeah. Joe, I didn't have it left for Joe. I was 42, 46, I believe 41, 93, and finally 92 after Jason Gilden left. And I didn't pick none of those numbers. You didn't pick none of those numbers? All those numbers was given to me, okay? Dang, Debo. I didn't have much requests. Joe, I was cut. Debo. Bro, I was cut up like so much, brother.

6:40James Harrison:I could have bled the death from paper cuts. They was cutting me so much, bro. They was just throwing my man a jersey. It's crazy, bro. They was dicing me. I'm in the 40s. You know I ain't have a chance. Nigga, flap that. Here you go. Take that one. What we got available? Here. What we got available? Put this on. Here. Put that on. Put. Nope. Somebody else got that now? Hey. Put this on. You know what I'm saying? That 9-2 stuck, though, D-Bo. 9-2 stuck. It hit. It hit. I ain't gonna lie but I came in that but look when I first got to Cleveland they gave me number 5 for training camp and then I had to put on 40 they gave me 40 because I had to try to get a 20 number all of them was gone so then I had to go ahead and buy the number so I had to get number 23 yes damn Joe this is how crazy that is to me Joe you was in the 40s I had number 4-0 for the first day that's a first round draft choice That's crazy.

7:40James Harrison:No, no, no. It was only for a day. It was only for a day. You know? It was only for a day because you paid money because you joke. Big money grip. OGs. What I was going to take everybody here was the older, you know? No, this is... Big money grip. I got to come in that job. What you need? Hey, what you need, old man? Give me that number. What you need, OG? What you need? My man, Peyton Hillis. And he came through totally that rock. Who'd you pay for that? I had to end up... I paid, I think I might have paid E. Wright. And then - How much? It was 20 bands. Woo! 20 bands back then. Oh, Lord. 20 bands.

8:19James Harrison:In 2010, 20 bands, 2010. What do you have to do with 20 right now? 20 bands, 2010. 20 bands, 2010. But I got that 2-3. And then my man Peyton Hillis, they had to do a whole little working around who got the jerseys. And then Peyton Hillis ended up doing number 40. And then he goes, well, cover a Madden with that joint. You know the running back from the Browns. That was totally. That's crazy, brother. That's crazy, Joe. That's crazy, Joe. Man, listen. 47, 48, 93. Then I ended up, when you see me in that game, that rookie card, 23. Okay? Know that. That really wasn't your rookie number, though.

9:01James Harrison:And then look, they lucky because when we went to the league, you couldn't go single digit until probably a couple years ago. Ooh, would have went five on him, too. I wanted to go five on him. Gave it a five at the corner. Ramsey looking sweet, holding it down. But I wanted that. I just want to have one NFL jersey, single digit, number five, hating on it, looking sweet. Bro, I'd have been wearing that 16. I ain't going to lie, man. 16 was like my high school and college number. I would have been wearing that 16. I ain't going to lie to you, brother Joe. I ended up switching to a single digit number my senior year in high school.

9:33James Harrison:I switched to a three. Man, I suspended three games. I was like, yep, nope. When you were younger, Debo, when we played Little League, you played Little League, boy, single digits was the most fire players on the team. You had to be a single digit. If you was number one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, you were fire. So me and my brother, we would walk into the game. We would be looking. You see the single digits on the other team? We was a single digits on our team. We knew who was guarding each other. We knew who was going to be the quarterback, the receivers. Like the best dudes on the team normally had a single digits.

10:08James Harrison:So that's why we was always trying to rock. One or five or seven. Because when I started younger, boy, I was the quarterback. Michael Vick, seven. Yes. Yeah, them single digits, that's supposed to be your higher tier players. You know what I'm saying? You can't be giving a single digit to the dude that's second string. You can't be doing that. You know what I'm saying? Brother. You got some people that do it, though. It depends on who it is. I got lied to. I got lied to coming out of high school. Florida, they told me I was going to be a single digit. My rookie year, freshman year, you're going to be a single digit.

10:42James Harrison:Got there 12. God! It was super close. Super close. Almost. Almost. You're only three digits away. Three digits away. Freshman year, I started, and then my bubble Caldwell ended up getting drafted. I said, Coach Meyer, I'm freshman All-American. Give me that five. I need that five. He said, yes, sir, Joe. You get that single D. Boom. Thank you. Sophomore year, I'm not taking this off. I would wear that little practice jersey around. Yeah. Y 'all see me in this five. Dude, man. Hey, Joe, what that face look like when they hand you that 40? Show me the face you made when they hand you that 40, Joe.

11:18James Harrison:I didn't even laugh. I tried to miss it. I was like, who that face is? That's not mine. No, that's not my jersey. I was like, for sure we going behind me. I know somebody, hold on. A duck? I was like, oh no. That's my job? Hold on. Had hating on the back looking crazy. Big old 40. I said, nah. But then my man TJ Ward ended up rocking the 43 and he looked sweet. I'm like, hold on TJ, you safety. You look sweet. I said, nah, but I'm corner. This joint big as heck. This whole, this four, zero. You don't even look like you got no size in it. Bro, I need to have the four or the zero. Not both of them.

11:58James Harrison:Can't give me both of them. Can't give me both. So, man, Dolphins' new quarterback, Malik Willis, rather he felt like he was ready to be a starting quarterback a year or two ago. We got the sound for that. Listen to this. Did you feel like you were ready for this a year ago or two years ago or you needed the past couple years to get to this point? I'm not sure. We only know until, you know, so I'm grateful for the opportunity now. And that's all I can say. I can't say whether I was ready or not. I can't prove that. You know what I mean? That would be just me being arrogant or prideful, you know.

12:39James Harrison:But the opportunity is here now. And I'm going to try to do my best to take advantage of it. How you feel about that response? You like that response? You don't like that? How you like it, Joe? Man, the dude's super duper humble. I'm just getting, I'm getting dumb, humble vibes. Not, I'm getting crazy humble vibes. Like, he's super duper humble. Yes, sir. I think that I like the way he's just, you know, hindsight, he just doesn't want to start saying stuff. He doesn't want to put his foot, he doesn't want to go try to take somebody's retired number. You know what I'm saying? He's basically going in here like this.

13:12James Harrison:Look, guys, ready for the opportunity. I can't say what I could have been back in the day. If it's the fifth, we all be drunk. I'm here right now, signed to the Miami Dolphins, and I'm ready to go. I'm in this position. I'm ready to go forward. Like, let's get it. All that, like, backwards, like, stuff that don't really make sense. Like, that question, what do you mean, do you think I was ready? I could, whatever, but that's back in the day. I'm here right now with the Miami Dolphins, signed, ready to go. And he's not saying, not trying to put any high expectations on himself. I think that it's just, he's ready to go.

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17:58James Harrison:go work all that other if i would just bring that i'm not bringing up anything that makes nothing that has nothing to do with the dolphins and be performing right now as the starting quarterback. So I like the way he did that. No question, Joe. I love the response, Joe. I love the response. Thank you. I'll go Proverbs 11-2. It said, when pride comes, then comes disgrace. But with humility, humility comes wisdom, Joe. And when you look at James 4-6, I like James, okay? And 1 Peter 5-5, both of them say, God opposes the proud, but shows favor to the humble. This is a humble man. This is a wise man, Joe.

18:36James Harrison:this is a man with humility he understands he's not gonna let his arrogance and prideful weight get in the way of a response like hey that would be arrogance and prideful i love it joe i love it like his mentality you know especially for him being the next quarterback of the you know miami dolphins hopefully he can turn into that franchise quarterback that they looking for, you know, and the only thing that's going to determine that is the status of how he plays, how well he does it. Do you think they found their franchise quarterback? Yeah, I mean, time will tell. Like you said, time will tell.

19:18James Harrison:He only plays seven games. If he stays consistent, we'll see. How good is his line going to be? Is he going to be protected? I don't know. So it's just Miami, they got a whole situation they got to figure out. So So I like the offensive coordinators. We'll see if they put them in positions to win, if the running game is good. It's going to be a lot of moving parts of Miami. Miami just isn't a, right now we just need one piece and we're going to be amazing. I think they have a lot of holes on their team. So it's going to be a building process. He can still be a franchise quarterback. I mean, he's got a lot of pieces missing over there.

19:53James Harrison:They got a lot of pieces missing over there, Joe. But we only got one missing, Joe. Joe? Joe Burrow. We only got one message, Joe. Debo, you. One, Joe. You and Mr. I can't help it, Joe. You only got one message. You know something. You know something. I don't know nothing. I'm just trying to speak it into existence, Joe. All I know is what I want. You know? If two come in agreeance, you in agreeance with me? I am in agreeance. Okay. Then it shall be done. it shall be done the Lord the Lord say that D you funny I'm just hey I'm with you I'm just saying I just I just talk when I talk let's go on over here to another quarterback that's been to a lot of places Justin Fields could become the first quarterback to play for four different teams and start week one with a different team 23 he was with the Bears 24 he was with the Steelers 25 the Jets in this year, if Mahomes isn't back in time, 26 can be the starting fourth year for him with the Kansas City Chiefs.

21:05Joe, this is not a good stat I want to be a part of.

21:11James Harrison:I guess the Jets end up losing$48 million in cap space by letting him go when you add in Aaron Rodgers dead money so this year they had 104 million dollars of dead money which is third only of course to Miami and Arizona Tua and Murray killed them boys yeah and then you know what they did they went in on head got old Geno Smith who's looking like he gonna be the starting quarterback at 3.3 Fields go to Kansas City and get 8 million damn But it looked like, bro, oh my, this is real? Is that real? 2027. It's looking like they will have 150 million plus in cap space plus three first round picks. Bro.

22:09James Harrison:2027. 150. Three first round picks. Bro, they can make some moves. Don't go and think. Don't do. Woo. Three first rounds. I ain't going to say nothing because I don't want them to I ain't going to say it. Joe how you feel about Justin Fields being into his fourth team what do you think the trajectory of his career would be? Right now I mean I'm not I love Justin Fields. Great dude great person. Joe about to say something negative that's why he goes with the positive No no no no no he's going to say something that he don't really want to say but he's just going to say it. Go ahead. Yeah, it's because this is the fourth team that you're going to be playing on as a starting quarterback.

22:52James Harrison:You want to be a starting quarterback. This is the perfect opportunity for you to do it. You're in Kansas City. You know you're not going to be there. You're here for a good time, not a long time. Patrick Mahomes, that's his team in Kansas City. So you want to just be able to go there, show that you're a competent starting quarterback where, you know what I'm saying? It's good. They already have, they have the team. They have Andy Reid. They're the Kansas City Chiefs. If you can come in there and just make it look good. Make it look reasonable. Don't lose the game. You don't have to go out there and be Patrick Mahomes because you're not Patrick Mahomes, but you can go out there and be sustainable.

23:29James Harrison:When it's run game, you got a new running back, making sure that they keep it ahead of the sticks. Use your legs when you need to. Hit the passes when you need to. We're not asking you to do nothing crazy, but just show that it's not your fault. You know what I'm saying? When you were in Chicago, when you were with the Steelers, the offense just, you were looking pretty good, up with the Steelers. It wasn't bad. You know what I'm saying? It wasn't bad. Jets, I don't know. I'm going to tell you something. In 2023 when he was with the Bears and then we ended up picking him up. I thought the move was a little questionable.

24:03James Harrison:The reason I thought the move was a little questionable is because in 2023 when he was with the Bears, he made a statement that he's they're making him think too much. He just want to go out there and play. That statement right there told me that he doesn't want to read defense or he can't read the defense. And that was something that I was like, I didn't like. And it gave me pause of like, yo, is it a mind thing? Is it a knowledge thing? Because he has the skills to be able to play the position plus, you know, add a little something else to it, which, you know, which is his legs. But when he made that statement and just threw it off to like, yo, they're making me think too much.

24:44James Harrison:No, you just told me and told yourself that maybe the game is too hard for you to acquire. Maybe, but you think it might be above the neck. When you say, I can see both ways. Maybe the way that they were presenting the message, there could be bad coaching. Like, you guys are telling me, I don't know what you guys are really teaching me. So I'm just looking at it now. You went to the Jets. So you went from the Bears to Steelers. And then from the Steelers to the Jets. And we had the same outcomes. I'm saying now he has his last that's what I was saying what I was saying you got Kansas City with Andy Reid in that offense so now I'm just looking like if you don't do it now it's not where else we gonna go you went to you did you've done it you've done your job you show now that I think it may be backup quarterback you know what I'm saying like if you think he's gonna be able to take a team to new levels I don't think so if he's not gonna be able to But like you said, you're only as good as you – what have you done for me lately?

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25:45James Harrison:Yeah. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt because the Bears ended up changing quarterbacks before they got Caleb, right? I mean, changing coaches, right? Yeah. Okay. And then we changed, and the Jets are the Jets. So, I mean, it's a possibility. I'll give him something on that. I'll give him something on that. I'll give you some leeway on that, I guess. Got to. I mean, he don't got to, but we'll see. Yeah, yeah, we'll see for sure. We'll see. 2020. Scatterboo trigger, man. Oh, my goodness. He was asked by a host of a show, I guess, Bring the Juice podcast, if he thinks CT is real. He said no, and it's an excuse.

26:33James Harrison:Wow. Scatterboo. Bro. Dan Wood presented with the premise that asthma is an excuse. Scatterboo agreed. No, that's a good take. He said, yes, asthma is fake too. You're soft. He later issued this apology right here. He said, recently I did an interview and had a lapse in judgment, which resulted in me making a tasteless joke about CTE and asthma. It was never my intention to downplay the seriousness of head injuries or asthma. I sincerely apologize to anyone who was offended by my remarks, and I assure you that I'll be more mindful and respectful going forward. Much love. Yeah. Joe, I thought it was a joke when I first saw it, but I know good and well he didn't write that.

27:26James Harrison:Who wrote that? PR. Okay, I'm just checking. because I ain't gonna lie I was listening to it and I'm like this gotta be like satire or something right this can't be real like or his CTE like kicked in like I mean mine kick in sometimes too you know you know and I got to sit there and I got to think I'm like yo is that me or is that like arrogance and pride like dude was saying you know like and I'm sitting there and I'm thinking like uh you know what I told you I like James man I gotta go back to James and it sends me back to James and I'm like, yo, James, listen to the book of James. Quick to listen, slow to speak.

28:03James Harrison:So I slow myself down. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? I'm just glad. I'm just glad he backed off. He came back and apologized. And like, it's not, dude, it's not a joke. You know, somebody got to him, obviously, and he got a, you know, he got a realization and understanding. I mean, if you go back, I think they did a study in what, 2023 where they did 376 former players. They found that 345 of them had some form of CTE. That's 92 % of the players they found from a Boston University CTE center study. They found that, you know, a lot of a lot of guys had some some form of it.

28:50James Harrison:Joe, do you you worry about CTE? You worry about if you got a little bit? I don't think I I'm kind of There it is. There it is. There's a CTE. It kicked in. There it is. I mean, it gotta be. It gotta be. I think my memory, my long-term memory for sure is shot. I know that for sure. I don't know. My long-term memory Sometimes it's real spotty. My people, they got to tell me when we did some vacations or whatever. I'm like, I done did. But I'm like, is it because I done did so much stuff? You done did so many, Joe. Having a good time. Just blessed. But when my friends would remind me of things that we'd done, I'm like, okay.

29:33James Harrison:I just need a refresher and then I can remember. You remember the time you got stuck in Mexico? I remember that. Okay, I'm just checking. I'm just checking. You good? That's more short term. That's more short term. That's more short term. But yeah, I think that people for sure, CTE is a real thing. People getting hit upside the head, dead serious. Deebo is honestly real, for sure. And some people have it more than others. It might spike. I don't know too much about how people react and just moves and just feeling in certain type of ways. And it has to be a lot of stuff too with just going to retiring and then not playing.

30:12James Harrison:And then just a lot of things, mental health, a lot of stuff, bro. I still do a lot of what I guess I would call like brain health type stuff, healing, cognitive repair. Like it's just all kind of stuff like that. And a lot of I also take like neurotropics, you know, and that stuff that just helps, you know, your brain function, memory, mental energy, learning, all that other stuff. You know what I'm saying? I did a lot of that while I played, too. So, yeah. And I still, you know, I still do a great majority of it now, especially, you know, with all the reports coming out of, you know, the CTE and what levels it is, all that other stuff.

30:57James Harrison:So, yeah, this is something that is 100 % real. You know, I got to make sure I'm 100%, you know, aware and in place, especially, you know, with my kids, you know, because I can't tell, you know, sometimes I got to look back. I ain't going to lie, Joe, my long-term memory is trash, too. Oh, for sure. I don't know why, but it's been trash. Yes. Bruh, they was asking me some questions about something at the Super Bowl. NFL Films was asking me questions about like something about like playing like whatever it was, the game against, I want to say it was Green Bay. I'm like, dude, I couldn't tell you nothing about, like, the Super Bowl, like, 2011 or anything.

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34:37James Harrison:Lenovo. Lenovo. Thy ticket, Lady Jennifer of Coolidge. Well, many thanks, good sir. Heareth my Discover card. They accept Discover at Renaissance Fairs? Yeah, they do here. Discover is accepted at the places I love to shop. Getteth with the times. With the tines? You're playing the lute. Yeah, and it sounds pretty good, right? Discover is accepted at 99 % of places that take credit cards nationwide. Based on the February 2025 Nielsen Report. Talking to me, and I'm like, when did that? Are you dead serious, though? He's like, Charlie just reciting and saying it. I'm like, I don't even remember this, dude.

35:20James Harrison:I'm like, yo, y 'all put Charlie up here. Like, put him up here. You ask him the questions. He got the... He got the memory. Right. He got the memory, man. Like, super brand. You know who was actually, like, super, super, super, super good at that? Like, memory. He can take you back to, like, his playing days and sitting in a room with just whatever it may be, talking to a guy. Yeah. Who? Coach LeBeau. Coach LeBeau's mental capacity, dude. Like, crazy. Like, this man played back in the day when the hammer was like.

36:01James Harrison:is the greatest I have ever heard or seen in life, dude. Like, it's wild, like how well he remembers things. Okay. Yeah, that makes sense. Because I seen like the one I used to coach, Sean McVay. I know that man probably got a crazy memory. I know he was reciting plays and stuff all the time. Like, dude, like Coach LeBow down there, how old is he now? Almost... mid-80s, he's still doing it. Still doing it. Bro, I call him right now. He'll be like, hey, Jay, you remember the time? I'm like, damn, I don't remember. Oh, yeah, I think I, you know, I got to, I don't remember. I don't remember. You know, I be saying that too.

36:45James Harrison:Hey, Jay, you remember? I be like, yeah, yeah, I remember. Yeah, I remember. I don't remember. And then especially when it's something that's like, like old me, you know what I'm saying? Like the dude that wasn't saved, I'll be like, I did that for real? You sure? You tried to actually eliminate that memory yourself. Bruh. Yes, bruh. Then you know, you add you might be out there partying, you know, a couple drinks on top of it. You're like, man, I don't know if I did that. I might have. I don't know.

37:20Bruh.

37:21James Harrison:Debo. We got in the chat. What we got in the chat? Super chat. Let's check it out. Take off. All right. Steelers need... Who we got? Liam... Liam, 98, 7. $10. Appreciate you. Thank you. Thank you. Steelers need to pay Chris Boswell. Yes. Pay the man. Pay the man. That's bankroll bars. Pay the man. So I call him bankroll. Every time... Hey, they cut my man's pay at one point about a year or two ago. I don't know if they cut bankroll hey chat didn't they cut my man's pay about a year or two let me know man let me know I believe they did I believe they did covered it I believe they did do he is he on this is he on this last year or do he got two years left oh bankroll yeah I think I think he got a year left let me see man bankroll boss but this is what I'm saying he can't go anywhere though we need boss we need boss oh no question bankroll boss four years as of oh man 2022

38:48James Harrison:he signed a four year 20 I think he's going to be okay we got him this year he's still under contract This is going to be his last year. Okay. And 2027, he'll be unrestricted free agent. So we got to give him a little something this offseason. A little two-year extension. Two. Brother. Back to the Super Chat. They go read him up, man. They're getting right. But I really believe they gave him a little bit of a pay cut, like, a while ago, man. I'm trying to tell you. I'm trying to tell you. I believe so. I don't know. I could be wrong, though. I don't remember the bankroll bars. Hey, like I said, man, my long-term memory track.

39:33James Harrison:That's what I'm saying. You just be making stuff up sometimes. I don't know. I feel like, bro, I really feel like they had my man take a little cut or something. Man, I swear I feel like that, dude. Like, I don't know, man. I don't know, man. I could be wrong, man. Covenant of Life. Seven. Oh, what? That's Covenant of Life. That's Covenant of Life. $10, Covenant of Life. Joe. He's talking about Burrow. I'm a chorus. Joe, in the AFC North, the Steelers are the greatest. Joe? No, she's talking to you, Joe. You run that, Joe. Oh, okay. Joe, in the AFC North, the Steelers are the greatest. I'm not trying to be funny, but playing for the Browns, did you ever see, did you ever say, damn, like Miles Garrett when being the worst team, like the Falcons?

40:19James Harrison:Okay. Cover the life. I would always think Cover the Life that we was going to win I never went into a season being like oh no we got a terrible team we always thought we was going to be able to win until we were mathematically eliminated and then that's when you would be like damn we still won't go out here and hoop man bro y 'all like 3 and 8 and you think y 'all got a chance bro we could win yes Yes, because we're not getting smacked. We weren't just going out there getting whooped. We would lose by two, lose by three, flukishly lose. Like we could win. I'm like, why can't it just, the ball need to fall our way one time.

41:05James Harrison:It's not like you're just going out there getting blowed out. So yes, I did feel like we could win until we were mathematically eliminated. Then people got to looking crazy. And I'm like this, oh man, this is not what it's supposed to be. Okay. Is that good? Okay, Joe. Whatever you say, man. Look here, man. Covenant Light back again. $2. 43. Troy Palamalu. Best to wear the 40s. Yep. See? You could have wore a 40 and been okay with it, bro. That's a safety. There's no corner that's the country that's wearing number 40. If you're a safety, then you could wear number 40 and look sweet. like Troy Potamalu, like TJ Ward.

41:53James Harrison:But if you're a 40 at corner, you look like they're going to be throwing the ball at you a lot and going at your neck. Because they're like, oh, buddy got 40 in the corner. They must have just threw that to him. Like they gave Debo that 47. They gave me 42, 46, maybe even 48. 93. Okay. Okay. My bad. My bad. My bad. My bad. It was never... It was never 47. Never 47. Okay. I just tried to get you to... I just tried to get you to... That's just nasty. Yup. That's real disrespectful, Joe. That was just nasty of you right there, man. Like... Coming to life back... $10. She said, I tried not to come back to the Super Chat, but I had one more question.

42:45James Harrison:This for you, Joe. Oh, Lord. She said... Joe, please name all of the Super Bowl wins of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Oh, I don't know. The score and who they played. I don't know all of them. Shit, I don't even know if I can cite that one. See, that's what I'm saying. You came out here crazy. I can tell you the ones we won. You don't know. That was it. That was it. Detroit, that was against Seattle.

43:20James Harrison:So you got Devo flustered.

43:27And who was it?

43:28James Harrison:Who was it? Oh, the Cardinals. I told you, bro. Remember, Tred. I got to go back in my Rolodex and I got to see me playing and look at the team. And what was the score? I couldn't even tell you the score. Definitely. If we won, then that's why you won. I know we lost in 2010, 11. Mm-hmm. Look at Debo showing it right now. Showing what, bro?

44:01C-T-E.

44:05James Harrison:Bro, that was a little bit, maybe. Hold up, man. See, now I'm about to go ahead and jump down your neck. I'm going to go ahead and see. Give it a shot. Come on. Give it a shot. Who you got? The score. I know they beat the Cardinals. the Cardinals that was my man because I played with San Antonio Holmes toes hold on hold on they whooped Dallas Dallas okay Dallas twice maybe

44:32James Harrison:Dallas three times I don't know wow Debo Debo Debo hold on I'll tell you you call yourself hold on you call yourself hold on bro let me tell you you call yourself oh yeah that's what I'm saying Why don't you just look in the history? This question was for you. I'm trying to help you out. No. You got stumped by the question they tried to fry me. I'm trying to ask. I'm trying to help you out. No. No. I need... Because how they going to ask me for a question that you supposed to be the Mr. Stiller? All the Super Bowl wins are the Pittsburgh Steelers. Nope. Nope. Nope. She tried to put no words on you.

45:07James Harrison:I can't even tell you this. Okay. Let me get... Dang. All right. So now the Vikings, the Cowboys, you right. Cowboys, Cowboys, Rams, Seattle, Arizona. That's only five. Minnesota Vikings. Minnesota Vikings. Okay. Dallas Cowboys. Dallas Cowboys. That was twice. Right. In 76 and 79. Then the Rams in 80. Yeah. Then the Seahawks in 06. And then the Cardinals in 2009. Yeah. Yep. Okay. Yeah, you got it right now. See, okay. Good Googling. Good Googling, Joe. I had to. Yeah. You couldn't, you didn't know. What's the score? You said Dallas. Is it Dallas? I said Dallas and Dallas. I thought it was three Dallases, though.

45:55James Harrison:You did do Dallas. You did do Dallas twice. You just got to remember the Seattle, the Seahawks won, and the Minnesota Vikings in 75.

46:11Yep.

46:13James Harrison:so D-boy I see you got it yeah you just showed you just showed what was up bro you showed what was up too what you talking about bro wow like listen Joe we got somebody that said what is it

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