Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Steelers OWN Browns + NFL Wants International Super Bowl

18 Aug 2026 · 40 min · 17 chapters

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In short

The Steelers’ historical dominance over the Browns (plus broader AFC/NFC point-differential talk), Deebo Samuel’s “dog” returning after an ACL, Keyshawn Nixon’s cornerback competition comments, and NFL commissioner Roger Goodell’s push toward an international NFL team and potentially hosting a Super Bowl outside the U.S.

Guests

No named guests appear in this transcript. The episode is a back-and-forth between “Deebo” and “Joe” (plus occasional references to other players/coaches and a live chat).

Key claims

  • Steelers have a massive all-time point differential vs. Browns (plus 579 mentioned) and are framed as “divisional dominance.”
  • Deebo Samuel is working back from an ACL (torn Sept. 28) and is only “starting to feel it,” emphasizing playing at 100%.
  • Keyshawn Nixon says he’s being “punished” by an open cornerback competition; hosts argue it’s actually about tape/physical tackling expectations.
  • Goodell: “no doubt” NFL teams will exist outside the U.S., and a foreign home field could host a Super Bowl.

Notable examples

  • Nixon’s “90% tackler” remark and “missed four tackles in 2025.”
  • International schedule examples cited: games in Australia, Brazil, France, Spain, Germany, Mexico (and others).
  • Practice anecdote: a defender breaking a hand/helmet collision; “stay away from the quarterback” coaching.

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Podcast Highlights

0:05 to 0:38

Brief mentions of various other podcasts by different hosts.

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Podcast Highlights

0:43 to 2:26

Brief mentions of various other podcasts by different hosts.

“You gave everything you could give and now it's time to take the next step.”

Browns vs. Steelers Rivalry

2:26 to 9:50

Discussion about the rivalry between the Cleveland Browns and Pittsburgh Steelers.

“People like Jane Fonda, George Michael, Little Richard.”

Injury Recovery and Expectations

9:50 to 14:00

Conversation about a player's recovery from injury and the expectations for their return.

“How much does a day like today give you the feel that all that work worked?”

Cornerback Competition Insights

14:00 to 15:00

Discussion on the competitive nature among NFL cornerbacks and performance pressures.

“Listen, the Packers pro bowler says he's being punished by the team's cornerback competition.”

Small Town Social Experiment

15:00 to 18:20

Exploration of a Tennessee town's transformation amidst political influences.

“We need cities on a shining hill that exemplify and embody the Christian way of life.”

Understanding NFL Cornerback Dynamics

21:41 to 28:00

In-depth analysis of cornerback roles, competition, and responsibilities in the NFL.

“So now they're looking like, you know what, it might be an issue.”

Unsettling Team Dynamics

28:00 to 29:09

Discussion on the challenges of teamwork and expectations in the NFL.

“It's very, how would I say, unsettling to have your teammate not want to do the dirty work.”

NFL Expansion Beyond Borders

29:10 to 30:54

Exploration of Roger Goodell's comments on NFL teams in foreign countries.

“You ain't supposed to be up there tackling them big motherfuckers, man.”

Super Bowls in Foreign Lands

30:55 to 32:58

Speculation about the feasibility of hosting the Super Bowl outside the U.S.

“You're talking about having a Super Bowl outside of the United States of America where you're Americans who you started the game.”
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The Future of NFL Games Abroad

32:59 to 34:41

Discussion about the potential for more NFL games internationally and their implications.

“By the time we're getting – they're in at 17.”

Cultural Reflections on Living Abroad

39:14 to 42:00

Discussion reflecting on personal experiences of living and playing in different countries.

“Now, if you go do that, we're going to need, we're going to need, we're going to need a little bit more.”

Reflections on Jail Time

42:00 to 43:19

The hosts discuss personal experiences and feelings related to being incarcerated.

“I'm like, man, I can't go through this again by myself.”

NFL Expansion Talks

43:20 to 45:07

The conversation shifts to the potential for an NFL team overseas and the implications of such a move.

“It's going to be a negotiation of what's going on.”

Injury Concerns in Football

45:08 to 46:39

The hosts discuss player injuries and the importance of protecting quarterbacks during practice.

“They done brought in a man that ain't even a year from a torn Achilles.”

Super Chat Shenanigans

46:40 to 48:13

The hosts react to Super Chat messages and engage with their audience.

“Joe, let's see what we got on the Super Chat.”

Upcoming NFL Games Preview

48:14 to 52:36

The hosts preview upcoming NFL games and discuss their significance.

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2:55James Harrison:Y 'all, y 'all, listen, man, y 'all over there in Cleveland, y 'all over there feeling y 'all self-eating all the... You know what I'm saying, y 'all? I don't know. We're just over there showing that we got some fights. Yo, yo, yo. What happened? We're not going to fight. We're not just going to run. Joe, what I want to show you is something that y 'all need to see because right now y 'all feeling yourselves, y 'all feeling good, y 'all talking crazy. Because, you know, it's not about what you say, Joe. It's about what you do, Joe. And what we do is dominate. Take a look at this, Joe. You see this right here, Joe?

3:29Oh, I did see this.

3:32James Harrison:Hey, Joe, the Pittsburgh Steelers ranked number one at a plus 579 versus the Cleveland Browns in the highest point differential. Joe. That is a legitimate belt. Hey, Joe. That's a belt? Yes. Hey, Joe, how many times was you on the end of that belt? How many games you got added? How many losses you done put to this? Huh? Man, how? Huh? How many points you got into this, Joe? Probably about 10. No, I probably took about 10. Probably took about 10 L's maybe. I probably, at least 500 of them points ain't mine. 500 of them ain't yours? 500 and 539 of them points ain't mine probably. 539 ain't yours?

4:26James Harrison:You saying you only responsible for 40 points? I think we're responsible for about 40. We put 40 points on you in a game. Oh, man. I got to go look back and do the math, Debo. I don't know. We wasn't always getting belted. Sometimes we got belted. Sometimes it was close. I won probably twice. Joe. Yeah. Hey, Chad. Chad, can y 'all please tell me how many points Joe is responsible for? From 2010 to 2016. team. Yes, please tell us how many points. That's like 12 games. Hey Joe, guess who else is up there? Look. Still is again, number seven. Look. Bopping Cincinnati. What I saw from this, what I saw from this, Debo, is divisional dominance from the Steelers.

5:20James Harrison:Honestly. When you see that they was giving, division, us, the Browns right here, not good representation. then we got a seven the Bengals and then it's like the Cowboys surprised me too the Cowboys division would y 'all even be in the left hand column at any point I don't think so I don't think y 'all would be in the left hand column at any point with a plus anything against anybody like I don't you gotta chill man I'm Joe I'm let's just talk about this list and don't we don't bring it let's yeah I mean y 'all over there like but look we ain't look we ain't over here more than listen it's over here multiple times so you over here picking on us because it's just one team we got y 'all have been giving us some legitimate belt okay I see it I respect it but you gonna tell me the Arizona the Cardinals getting belted by the Commanders and the Dallas Cowboys.

6:29James Harrison:We got Atlanta getting belted by San Fran and the Rams. So, I ain't play for the Rams. You ain't play for the Cowboys. I ain't play for them. You didn't play for Arizona. You played for the Bengals. You understand? Hey, and guess what? I was part of the other side of that that actually dropped that point so that it wasn't at the 540 mark. You understand, Joe? Yeah, this was not good. Hey, Joe, you know how many times I beat the Steelers? How many times do you beat the Steelers? I played them two times. You know how many times I beat them? Half the time. I whooped AIS, bro. Okay, you 50-50. I'm 50-50.

7:19James Harrison:You 50-50 depending on, okay, you never know. You might walk in, win. You might walk in, L. But it's 50-50, though. It's A. What's your percentage? Boy, that's what I'm about to say. I'm lottery tickets. I'm about 12, 15%.

7:40James Harrison:Yo, that's even a bad baseball app. I'm slugging 500, Joe. People, listen. I'm going to tell you this. It's not an individual match, though. It's not like I'm in there boxing. I'm in there, me and my team. Joe, Joe, stop that. It's generational belt. Ain't no I in team. Ain't no I in team. Right. Ain't no I in team. So I'm sitting right there. Me and the historic. And this is from 1966.

8:10That's...

8:11James Harrison:Yeah. It's been going on since before either one of us was born. That's about... We're going on 60 years of belt. We talking about this is 60 years of playing. Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's about to get worse, too. No, no, sir. Oh, it's going to be 600 by the time we get done. This year. 600. You out your mind. Plus 600. Joe, matter of fact, I take that back. Maybe plus 615. Debo, you're out of your mind. Mm-hmm. You are just talking crazy. Talking crazy, Joe? What are you talking about? ain't nothing about 30 points a game oh we gonna get that on y 'all oh yeah we gonna put okay yeah we gonna go ahead I like a little friendly ways y 'all not a little friendly one it's whatever you want and we gonna be in the team we play Thursday night don't we we do everything man we play Thursday night we gotta be at the game it's whatever you want it to be Joe I'm trying to tell you listen I'm gonna go neutral for you I ain't going to tell you apart.

9:21James Harrison:Yes, sir. Yes, sir. I'm going to give Mr. Berry a call and see what he – you give him a call. I'm going to give him a call. We're going to be set up. Debo, you – He started being too nice to me. Debo, you don't got to do nothing. Me and you going to be set up. I got to scale that back a little bit. No, no, no. You good. You good. You good. Great. Now we set up. Now we set up. You did that. We set up nicely. We going to be nice and good for the Browns. I can't wait. All right, man. Look here, man. Man, the Giants, Malik neighbor says that dog is barking at him. Listen to this, bro. How much does a day like today give you the feel that all that work worked?

10:02That passion seven on seven and went to the ground? Yeah. What was it that? No, I wasn't upset.

10:08James Harrison:It's just that dog in me is just barking a little bit, you know? It's just barking a little bit. It's just like he coming, you know? That was just a little spark. So, you know, it was just let everybody know he coming. He waking up a little bit. Joe, what do you mean, Joe? That dog is barking a little bit, Joe. What do you mean, man? We can't wait to get back out there, Deebo. This man love the game. He just is super, super excited. You know, his energy. He just, that dog in him. We've been talking about that with Verse. We've been talking about this with players that just legitimately love the game and would do anything and think that they, and not think, believe in their ability that they are the best player because they won't stop and they can do anything.

10:52James Harrison:So I think this is just him coming off the injury, really just trying to feel like he's getting back into himself. Joe, Joe, I'm 100 % with you, man. He said, listen, he said a little bit, though. You know, you got to understand what he mean by that. You're like, I'm not 100%. My man ain't played a game since what? September 28th when he tore his ACL. and he had to go through the whole process of getting himself back. Now, he done got out there and he's starting to feel it a little bit. That's what he's talking about, that dog back. He's starting to feel it a little bit. He's starting to get back to where he was or somewhere around there.

11:32James Harrison:And you're talking about an ACL, bro. Like, that's a long process. You know how it is when you go and you do an ankle. and you strain a muscle and you start getting back into that hundred and you be like, oh yeah, I feel it is coming back. Yep. Yeah, I can. That's what he's talking about, dude. That's what he's talking about. My man said, he don't know if he go, he ain't committed yet to saying that, you know, he was going to be ready week one. So it's a good thing that he's like, you know what, I'm going to go ahead and play behind what my body tell me. 1 ,000%. And especially, Debo, him being this, like his explosiveness all of that is what is making him such a great receiver so he's so young and you don't want to make this a a long-term thing so just being able to loving the game so much knowing that you're just being able to have that mentality where look I'm going I want to get back as fast as I possibly can but when I get back I need to be myself because when they put you back out there they're expecting it to be like it was that rookie year 109 catches 1200 yards You know what I'm saying?

12:36James Harrison:Easy work. Because that's just what you do. So take your time a little bit. Make sure that you get back out there at 100%. Because when you do, we plan for you to have a long career. We don't want you to still be having lingerie injuries because you're too young for that right now. Right now, when you're on your first contract, oh, you can have this. It's all good. They'll let you take your good old time. But once you get that second one, now you're injury prone. You're not going to be able to. We don't have time. Now you're 27, 28. Oh, no. He's probably. You're old. In three years, you're old.

13:06James Harrison:Right now, oh, no, you're young. You're whippersnapper. Please take advantage of that. Take your time as long as you can because now once you get back in this joint again, and not to say, but hopefully if nothing happens, they're going to be looking at you like an old head. Listen, make sure you are 100%. Not 90. Make sure you are 100 because what they're looking for is what you put out there last year. If you come back there and you don't give them anywhere close to what it was last year. Your rookie season. You're going into your third one. Was he a first or a second? I think he was a first.

13:39James Harrison:He was a first. He was a first round. Okay. So now you're going into your second, your third rather, and they're trying to decide after that if they're going to pick up your option. Pick up your option. They got a seat. So make sure you 100, come back, and then have it a whole steady just incline from whenever that is that you come back all the way through to that next year and the year after and then get that real paper. A thousand percent. Get that real paper, brother. Listen, the Packers pro bowler says he's being punished by the team's cornerback competition. Look here, man. Listen to this.

14:20James Harrison:You tell me. Matt has not made any secret about you competing to keep your starting job. So how do you view it? I guess I'm being punished right now. I guess. I don't know. I don't really worry about what I'm running in a camp, what ones are tools. I just keep my process and just compete for real. Our town is small taters by most standards, right? But to the people who grew up here, it's everything. What happens when a quiet Tennessee town becomes the front line in a battle over the future of America? Developers with right-wing ties have purchased hundreds of acres of land in the area. The first thing you see when it pops up is pioneers in Appalachia.

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18:40That call was really pivotal for me. Hey, it's Emily Tisch-Sussman, and this season on She Pivots the podcast where women share bold career moves and personal turning points that changed everything. I sit down with culture-shifting women who share their pivots, like Paralympian Allie Truitt. I was like, I'm a month out from a shark attack. There's no way in 11 months I'm making the Paralympics. Advocate Elizabeth Smart. I still feel that drive that I can still make a difference, so I'm going to keep going. Celebrity chef Carla Hall. Was that scary to walk away from such a stable career after just two years?

19:12No, I was more afraid of being unhappy than I was broke in a dead end job that I didn't enjoy. And feminist legend Gloria Steinem. All of us were trying to express women's real lives. We need a meeting place of our own. And if I can contribute to that, I'd like to maintain that and leave this house for that purpose. Listen to She Pivots on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What would the punish be? Would it be that play in Pittsburgh?

19:46James Harrison:I don't know. That's between the coaches. I don't know. I just come here and have the same process and get better every day and just stack days. Can't really worry about, you know, what they throw at me. Whatever they throw at me, I'm going to attack it with a challenge. So I'm here for it, no matter what it is. What have they told you exactly about what your role is? Nothing. I don't know. They didn't really tell me nothing. I'm just, every day I find out a different thing and I just attack it. I don't care what it is. Whether it's me taking reps on special things, whatever it is, I attack it, though.

20:21James Harrison:I'm here. Can't really run me off, so I'm ready to play ball. Go ahead, D-Bro. No, pop off, pop off. Got to be more careful. Hey, listen. You tell me, bro. What he's saying, what Keyshawn is saying, what he's saying, man? What is Keyshawn Nixon saying? Because what he's saying and what he's saying ain't what he's saying. He's saying he's tripping. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. You're saying the first thing you said is you being punished. And then you said you don't care. It ain't this, but you're going to do what you're going to do. Like, hey, I guess all this kind of stems from Matt LaForge.

21:02James Harrison:he announced an open cornerback competition which Pro Bowl corner Keyshawn Nixon views as punishment so I guess he came under fire in the postseason after apparently after appearing to dodge a tackle attempt against uh DeAndre Swift and then I guess you know a little little he ran over you know he He ran and plunged over the goal line. So it was a touchdown. It cost him a touchdown, basically. It may look like he didn't want to put his face in there. So I guess that's been coming up. And then you get over here to Pittsburgh, and, you know, Jeremy ain't trying to go down. So he got that now. So now they're looking like, you know what, it might be an issue.

21:54James Harrison:I mean, Keyshawn referred to himself as a 90 % tackler, noting that he only missed a couple tackles in 2025. He missed four tackles. Four tackles. Four tackles in 2025. Listen, man, your words caught you, and then you tried to backdo it. You should have just left the punishment part alone. Yeah. You feeling some type of way. The quarterback or the cornerback competition, who was the other corner? When did they draft him? We got a second rounder. They drafted a second rounder. Okay. this could be a problem for you a little bit. What is he, 29? Yep. He's 29. You know how they feel when you start getting that 3-0.

22:33James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? I done put some money. I done put some draft capital into a 2. Yeah, this going to turn into a real competition. And I'm going to see if this young boy want to put his face in that fan. Hey, everybody got something dirty about their job, and you got to be able to go in there and do it. If that's going ahead and I can't cut this tackle, I got to go ahead and face up this 360. That's what you got to do. Thousand percent. The thing about the NFL Depot that we fail to like, it is, it's, it's what is on your tape. What have you done for me lately? So if it looks like you turned down smoke and at the end of the day, you, you feel a certain type of way coaches, if you got to clean your tape up, like if that's what it looked like now, coaches have some things where they can be.

23:18James Harrison:No, everybody got something dirty to your job. We need to see you putting your face in there. So even if I'm a good tackler and I start missing two tackles, next thing you know, you got to clean your tape up or something. You know what I'm saying? Somebody's going to – things aren't just – it's not sweet. It's a really – it's an A and B league. So it's like, watch the tape. Did you miss the tackle? Are you afraid to put your face in there? Are you slowing down? Do I see change of speed? You know what I'm saying? When the young dudes come in and we start talking about this, the older you get as a corner, the more that it starts to – you start turning that down a little bit.

23:49James Harrison:It's like, how much longer can I play? hey, do I really need to go all the way full? Like, did he already get tackled? Like, no, no, you're full board. These young boys, 21, you're coming in there, bing, everybody, you're throwing your shit in there because you don't know what you don't know. So it's like when you start watching the tape and you see young boys, when they get that cracker place and they're coming down full speed, that's the way I was always doing it because you don't know what you don't know. You don't know no type of not fear. So it's like, if you see that on tape and it looks like you're dodging tackles, that's where it's like, okay, what I need to do now is change my tape.

24:20James Harrison:Bump without how I feel, my emotions, what they got going on. Is my tape dirty or is my tape clean? Does it look like I'm turning it down or does it look like now I want all the smoke? Am I continuing to miss tackles? Like now you're next to when you played against us, Bernard, jump up out of it. It's like this. That's on your tape. So when we are talking about corners and you can feel personal about a way of like, oh, no, I don't know where I'm sitting at. No, when you're in there, you know if you're running with the ones or you know you're running with the twos. If you're two nickel this practice or if you're one corner this practice, You know exactly where you stand with the team and who you're running with.

24:51James Harrison:He might not obviously be like, hey, today we're going to – no, no. It's the script, and you know when you're going in. Two's in. Are you going in or are you not going in? So you always know where you stand. The coaches, you always know what position you are on the team. So with him saying he feels like it's punishment, when you say that, it opens up. You're just saying that. You lost everything. Why do you feel like you're punished? Yes. You know what I'm saying? It's like, oh, because they think – I don't know. Now it's just a – you think you've vanished because they're talking about the mistackle or maybe they just don't, your tape is showing that Coach LaFour, he said, like, I want to see our corners being able to cover and make tackles, be physical.

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25:26James Harrison:He's saying this, so he's basically putting it out there. Okay, right now, I don't need my corners to be missing tackles. These young boys, if they're not missing tackles, they might not be as skill savvy, but they're on their job. They're on where they need to be. They're filling the gaps. There's no hesitation. Okay, we can make something shake from this. So when you're a vet and you're older, you went to the Pro Bowl, you're starting to feel a little chill. It's like, no, no, no, we still got to do dirty stuff too and make sure no matter what, I know you think it's good, but keep your tape clean and then you'll be good to go.

25:55James Harrison:Yeah, you can't be seen as turning something down, especially when that actual turndown is a touchdown. Like, hey, I got to go out there and I got to go ahead and sacrifice. If I got to go to sleep, I got to go to sleep. Somebody else got to come in. Night, night. Night, night. And I guess the Packers, they actually drafted two corners this year. You got the boy in the second, who is Brandon, whatever that is, Seaside. He's South Carolina, cornerback from South Carolina. And then they got, well, it's a six-round pick. What is that, Jackson? Damani Jackson, cornerback from Alabama. So who did Alabama, who was Alabama's corners?

26:44James Harrison:They started corners. What round are they going? This could have been somebody that might have been good. Bama would have a little bit of depth. Oh, for sure. If you just end up having to be the same year, you got to get up out of there when they get up out of there. I'm going to give you a chance. You went to Bama. You got to show me something. Yeah. Hey, listen. You should have never said you were being punished. Yeah. Everything else you said after that about it, I don't care about nothing. I'm just coming in and doing my job. That was perfect. It don't matter. It don't matter. It was perfect, Debo.

27:19James Harrison:Kill the punish. Get out of that. Listen, I don't care what's going on. I'm going out to do my job every day. Don't say the punish. Because for sure, everything he did after that was perfect. Hey, and then just stop talking, bro. When you got yourself in the corner like that, just be like, yeah, damn. You know what? Just stop. Just stop. Listen. You could be like, yeah. It was just at the first thing. That was the first part. and after that, everything else was perfect. It's not perfect because you just saying that now because I just said the quiet thing out loud. No, I know, I know, I know. You said he wouldn't have never said that if he wouldn't have said to punish that first.

27:57James Harrison:If he hadn't said the quiet thing out loud, he'd have been good. Yes. I'm being punished. I'm shit. No, for sure. The floor, he like, yeah. he see what it is now it's open competition if you can't do everything about the job then we gotta open the flow to see who can do everything about the job fast that's what young boys how you say it Joe when we young we just hey you wanna throw my face in there yes for sure I'm in the NFL I'm ready to run through anything anybody like yes you gotta I played like, that's what it is. Young Corner, I'm just, what? I'm just telling you, bro. I'm just telling you.

28:52It's very, how would I say, unsettling to have your teammate not want to do the dirty work.

29:05James Harrison:And you know how you have sometimes with them dudes like, hey, man, oh, they want you to do what? And you know, that ain't your job, bro. That ain't your job. You ain't supposed to be up there tackling them big motherfuckers, man. Yeah, that's part of your job. That's why it spills to you. It's called corner force. Okay? You get to it. Where you go, Joe? Joe done cut out on your boy. Uh-oh, we lost Joe. We lost Joe. That's cool. Look here, man. We're going to take a look right here. Actually, because we got a little Goodell information here. There's some breaking news, it looks like. That Mr. Goodell here said, I have no doubt there will be NFL teams outside of the U.S.

29:55James Harrison:Listen, my man said there will be NFL teams outside of the U.S. No doubt. that mean they gonna stretch them games too now that 17 about to go to 18 19 something like that anyway um he said at some point there will be nfl teams outside the u.s i have no doubt that this will happen one day goodell's form goodell told former nfl player mark Marcus Kuhn in an interview for a German broadcast Goodell said that once an NFL team is established in a foreign country it's home field could host a Super Bowl a Super Bowl that is not in the United States of America that's crazy that's wild dude we that thirsty we that thirsty dude you gotta go all the way to another country to watch huh i gotta get a passport to go watch the america's favorite what my brother did you hear what i was just saying what you just said bro somebody said you got adopted in the chat bro anyway i'm talking about roger goodale man he had came out and he said uh he said i had no doubt there would be an nfl team outside the u.s okay he said at some point there would be an nfl team outside the u.s i had no doubt that this will happen one day so he said that to a german broadcast company and i guess um he said that once an NFL team is established in a foreign country, its home field could host a Super Bowl.

31:46James Harrison:You're talking about having a Super Bowl outside of the United States of America where you're Americans who you started the game. Now you got to get a passport. It's American football. They don't even call it football. They call football soccer. This is football americano. We that thirsty, Joe. It's that bag, Debo. Not the Super Bowl. Don't take the Super Bowl from us. It's that bag, Joe. He said there are definite international cities that could host something like that, Goodell said of the Super Bowl. But we would like to see an NFL team in a city first. They want to get a whole team. Where?

32:28James Harrison:Which one? I'm saying. What are we talking about? London? Paris? Mexico? Bruh. They got, they got, we got nine games this year. That's the highest that we've not had so far that are outside the U.S. Debo, Debo. Three in New England, one in Australia, Brazil, France, Spain, Germany, and Mexico. Mexico? Hey, Joe. Look, man. This is what I'm telling you, Debo. This is what I'm telling you. We got nine games already internationally. By the time we're getting – they're in at 17. When we get to 17 games, we might as well have one team that's out there hosting it and just chilling it. everybody come out there and disney.

33:11James Harrison:Hey, Joe, you fanning up. What you mean? You want to send a whole team over there. They got to stay over there. I don't want to have to send a team over there. I don't want to have to. But look, if the powers that be are saying it, what am I to do? Listen, we're going to 18 games. That's going to be a short thing. 18 going to happen. You're talking about nine games. They got to come across the water at least nine hours.

33:42James Harrison:Yeah. What's happening in the two season? I'm saying this because I ain't got to do none of the traveling. I ain't got to be playing in the games. That's the craziest part. When I really don't, like, I'm like, that's so messed up. Hey, that's y 'all proud. That's so messed up. Hey, man. I don't care about the travel no more. Y 'all want to cry and complain and y 'all making millions of dollars? Get on that plane, that PJ. Y 'all about to fly on there and get to me. I wish I could make$20 million. For a vacation. Y 'all about to go out there for a day, for three days, and go play a game. You get paid a million dollars a week.

34:16James Harrison:What are you talking about? Our town is small taters by most standards, right? But to the people who grew up here, it's everything. What happens when a quiet Tennessee town becomes the front line in a battle over the future of America? Developers with right-wing ties have purchased hundreds of acres of land in the area. The first thing you see when it pops up is pioneers in Appalachia. But they weren't just planting houses. We need cities on a shining hill that exemplify and embody the Christian way of life. Stop right there. Is that normal? A podcast about what happens when a small town becomes the site of a social experiment.

34:55God need men to rule. Great. And decides to fight back. Do not use my hard work to sell your bull. They're not just opposing what's being planned for here. Our hometown is not a test tube. They feel like they're standing in opposition to an entire administration. Guess you didn't move in on a bunch of dumb hillbillies now, did you? Listen to Our Town on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Munga Shateguiler, and I'm back with a new season of the podcast Skyline Drive. This time I'm diving into a rabbit hole of peptides, organoids, blood boys, blue zones, and brain replacement to try to understand what this longevity obsession is all about and what it really means to live forever for all of us.

35:42I learned about some rad science. I can make a brain for you and then we can test what draw is the best for your brain as opposed to his brain. Here are some hard truths. I would expect Indians to age faster, but I did not expect it to be almost a four to five year acceleration. And get myself into a world of trouble. I'd say probably start bone smashing. That doesn't work. Make it look more defined. They say it works. I don't know. Listen to Skyline Drive How to Live Forever on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Well, it's that time again. Backpacks, first day of school outfits, and the low-key anxiety of...

36:29Am I even doing this right? Good Mom's Bad Choices is diving into the back-to-school season the way only we know how. Unfiltered, funny, and full of the moments other shows won't touch. From surviving morning drop-offs to the guilt of missing the first bake sale. I already told me that next season she wants to join a club team that's by your house. So I was like, so you want me to pick you up from school? I'll take her by my house. but then I have to take her there and then I have to drive back and then some days I'm here and I have to go pick you up at school and then bring you back. I was just like, hell no.

37:03This is a space where moms trade their highlight reel for the real real. Whether you're a new mom, a veteran mom or just trying to make it to pick up on time. This season of Good Moms, Bad Choices is for you. Listen to Good Moms, Bad Choices from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. On Big Lives, we take a single cultural icon. People like Jane Fonda, George Michael, Richard Pryor. And we pull apart the story behind the image. And we do this by digging through the BBC's vast archive. We're talking iconic moments in broadcast history.

37:41James Harrison:I'm not just a boxer. I'm educated. I can talk all week on millions of subjects. And forgotten interviews that change how we see these giants of our culture. Well, if changing the system from the ground up is revolutionary, then I'm revolutionary. We're here for the messy, the brilliant, the human version of our heroes. I mean, when I go on stage, I like to dress as slutty as possible because it makes me dance better for some reason. I'm Emmanuel Jochi. I'm Kai Wright. And this is Big Lives. Listen to Big Lives on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get podcasts.

38:17That call was really pivotal for me. Hey, it's Emily Tisch-Sussman, and this season on She Pivots the podcast where women share bold career moves and personal turning points that changed everything. I sit down with culture-shifting women who share their pivots, like Paralympian Allie Truitt. I was like, I'm a month out from a shark attack. There's no way in 11 months I'm making the Paralympics. Advocate Elizabeth Smart. I still feel that drive that I can still make a difference, so I'm going to keep going. Celebrity chef Carla Hall. Was that scary to walk away from such a stable career after just two years?

38:50No, I was more afraid of being unhappy than I was broke in a dead end job that I didn't enjoy. And feminist legend Gloria Steinem. All of us were trying to express women's real lives. We need a meeting place of our own. And if I can contribute to that, I'd like to maintain that and leave this house for that purpose. Listen to She Pivots on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Come on.

39:19James Harrison:eat the finest food get served hand to foot get y 'all ass out there to London people we turned into them hey Joe you ain't shit I gotta do better I told myself I wouldn't be that I will remember what I was going through slow down you excited because football just came back so right now you really want more I understand what you're saying Joe I'm a thinker I gotta sit back and I got to look at it at both sides. You know what I'm saying? Both sides. Now, if you go do that, we're going to need, we're going to need, we're going to need a little bit more. We got to, we got to, if you're doing that, we're going to have to uncap this cap.

39:59James Harrison:Uncap this cap. Look, D-Bo, that's why it's going to be a lot of things doing that collective that we're going to have to stand, they're going to have to stand on business for. What is the NFL? They're going to have to stand on business for some stuff because all I'm hearing is a lot of moving to London and like, what is the, conversation? What is the divide looking like? What are we getting? We ain't got to be more careful. We ain't got to grant. Hey, I'm just saying, yo. I ain't saying it. I'm just asking. What is the NFL PA going to do? What is they saying? What are they going to talk about?

40:40James Harrison:I mean, y 'all stadium done in what, 29? No, our stadium won't. The last or sorry, the end of the current contract that we have or that they have with the NFL, the CBA, don't end to 30. So, I mean, they got a long time. They got a minute to figure it out and get their ducks lined up and make sure they tell all these players, like, save your money. Get ready to be able to be locked out for a year. Be able to make it through the next 18 months. Starting right now, they should have been telling them as soon as they knew that they were, like, they should have did that. 18 games and living in London.

41:19James Harrison:18? Bruh. That's crazy work. Bruh, you don't want to live in London. I'm not saying me. Germany, man, I ain't going to lie. I was in Germany. I did NFL Europe in Germany, Dusseldorf, Germany, for the Ryan fire. And, bruh, that wasn't it, bruh. I lost weight, man. That food, I don't even. Yeah, D-Bo. I'm cool with visiting but I'm I like where I like the United States of America I keep me right on I know exactly where I need to go Chick-fil-A it's cooling but I know I love it here

42:00James Harrison:yeah bro I don't I can't I did that already man and I ain't gonna even lie to you man I felt like I don't even know what it's like to be in jail for a long time but I was I see you know it's like to be in there for a short time I know it's like to be in there for a short time so I ain't get I ain't get but I was over there for almost like seven eight weeks bro and now you thinking of these cats they're being you know they you get locked up and they talking about yeah man when I get out I'm gonna do the right thing you know I'm gonna sit down bro that was me I was I was depressed when you sitting in there boy yeah you with your thoughts You get to say anything.

42:41James Harrison:I'm like, man, I can't go through this again by myself. Oh, you are a fool. I can't do this. Oh, my goodness. Yo. Hey, man, I'm just saying, bro. Oh, my goodness. You're a fool. But no, I'm just saying, like, this is the thing. Like, he done said it. This is where it's at, dude. This is it right here. This is it right here. He is saying, no doubt. There's no doubt. Hey, Lee, no doubt. That there's going to be an NFL team overseas. No doubt. The man said, I have no doubt. He is the commissioner, right? He's the commissioner of the NFL. He won 32 teams. I have no doubt. He knows. If he said, he knows something.

43:33James Harrison:If he said, it's going to be. It's going to be a negotiation of what's going on. It looked like they just signed Najee Harris, man, to a one-year deal over there with the Giants. Okay, let's go, Najee. Hardball, I guess he must have saw something he liked. Hey, when does the cut start? When does the cut start happening? I don't know. You got Scatterboo now, I guess, Najee. You got Tracy, Devin Singletary. I know one thing. Malik neighbors need to look like it's better, but Scatterboo still looks a little a little a little janky you look a little iffy that might be why you got this right here I tell you not boy I seen this little route if you seen it on the ground he just ran a little 10 and then like his knee just I was like that doesn't look too good and I'm not you know what I'm saying I'm just off the visual off the big I don't know maybe that flip he got a little he keep on doing backflips too all over the place falling he gotta chill Like, I don't know.

44:40James Harrison:Yeah, Scadaboo, you got to chill, man. He got to realize. Yeah, I mean, we're going to see, bro. The main thing, the main thing. Scadaboo looking, he ain't looking like he all the way, all the way. Yeah. I guess you got Najee. You got Tyrone Tracy. Tracy, that's the boy that missed the block that got dart-fied off into the medical team. Oh, my goodness. You're going to get your starting quarterback put in the product. Well, you got to put in the team. Hey, that's what. Hey, man, we need a big body. At least it's just standing. See, that'll get you cut. That'll get you cut. You see? That'll get you cut fast.

45:15James Harrison:They done brought in a man that ain't even a year from a torn Achilles. Come on, man. Because you done got darkfired on so hard. You seen the coach from Seattle fired off on the DN, getting too close to Sam Donald. Oh, you talking? Yeah. Stay away. from the quarterback. Get him out of there! Get him out of there! What did you mean? Hey, man, everybody know you can't run to the front of the quarterback. You can go around the back. You can't come to the front. He went underneath the front for the follow-through. That's what's going to hit him right on the finger, on your helmet. Boom. It's done.

45:51James Harrison:He done broke his whole hand, thumb. It's over. Yes, and they be looking at why coaches talk. I'm like, yes, because that is your franchise quarterback. I understand. You trying to get your rush on. But that is our quarterback. We need this. I'm trying to hump. No, hump your ass away from there. Hump on that. This is not the hump drill. What are you talking about? That was fun. All our hopes and dreams right here. I respect it. You know how hard it is to get you a quarterback, a franchise quarterback? It's hard. And you about to sit here and practice and have my man break his whole hand on your helmet because you want to finish?

46:27James Harrison:No. You know you're supposed to go across the backside. You know you're supposed to stop when you can't see the quarterback no more. if you're a thousand percent. And we at practice. Coaches, we understand this. Coach, you got to stay away from the quarterback. Got to. Got to be more careful. Joe, let's see what we got on the Super Chat. What is that? S. Drayden's? At S. Drayden's? What the hell? I don't know. We have figured it out. $20. Okay. Appreciate you. S-D-E-R. D-R-E, sorry. Dresden Coach Coward Ball was weight room and hard chargers? What? Translate that for me, bro. I ain't got the filters.

47:20James Harrison:Listen, bro. Coach Coward Ball was weight room and hard chargers. What? I don't know what that means. I ain't going to lie to you, bro. Hey, am I stupid? I know I'm a little bit, but I don't fucking dumb. Am I reading this wrong? Coach Cowher Ball was weight room and hard chargers. Am I reading this wrong? Hardball Chargers? What's a hardball? The coach? Jim Harbaugh?

48:02James Harrison:Hey, Dresden, man. Hey, man, say something in this chat. What the hell is you talking about? I did not notice. Talk to me.

48:13James Harrison:What's going on? Mike, Mike. We got Mike, Mike. 100. He said$5. He said, welcome to the Debo show presented by Internet. Man, no, that was my... Hey, dude. it's about the same as the internet connection no see that's not it wasn't even the connection my phone it it died your phone died? you didn't have your phone plugged in Joe? you didn't have your phone plugged in Joe? oh Dino I didn't junior varsity what are we doing here? junior varsity that ain't even junior that's freshman that's freshman that might even be Pee Wee yeah that's that's that's pound ball like what is we talking about coming to life done popped up on me coming to life ten dollars appreciate it she said chat i would be a guest on with my wine in hand because why not i need to help joe i need to help defend joe because it's going to be a rough season for my buddy and James is going to go in.

49:29James Harrison:Covered it. Get ready. Covered it. You be helping James go at me the most out of anybody. You trying to help me out. I don't feel the love. If you my friend, I don't need no enemy. I don't want to give you my enemy. God. But I appreciate you so covered it. You do be showing me love on the side, but you do be going smack at my Browns. No love for the Browns.

50:06James Harrison:okay i'm trying to see where where uh where where where where s dressed he ain't said nothing yet

50:20James Harrison:listen i don't know what's going on i don't know what that is so coach cower ball was weight room and hard chargers i don't know you are you just as good as me with that one yeah i got no clue i i have zero zero clue on that one and and and the more i try and understand it the worse it It's pissing you off. I don't want it to piss you off. Like, I don't understand it. And I keep thinking about it. I know. That's what I can tell, Debo. It's pissing you off the more when you think about that, Joy. You're trying to read it. You're reading it the same way. It is not changing. And that, Joy, I don't get it.

51:01James Harrison:Damn. That's like Joe not plugging his phone in. It just don't make no fucking sense. Wow. You know what I'm saying? That's crazy. I'm just saying Joe look here man I believe we got us a couple Thursday games tomorrow or is that sorry two days two days two days we got a couple games on Thursday and two days we got the Raiders and the Texans we got the 49ers and the Chargers I guess we might be able to see I don't know if they gonna play him now we'll see what's his name Oh, sorry. He went to Giants. I'm tripping me. He was with the Chargers before. But yeah. We're going to watch. We got some football.

51:47James Harrison:Listen, guys. We got some football to watch. Yeah, we got some football to watch. Listen, guys. We want to thank you for joining us on this episode of Deebo and Joe. Please make sure you like, subscribe, and download where you get your show. Like. Remember, like. He keeps saying it. Like, we got 400 something. We ain't got nothing like that on the likes. Get the like. Hit the like button, yo. Get them all. Come on. We will see you Friday. Same time. Same place. But you know what? I'm going to be back in studio, Debo. I'm going to be back in studio. I'll be back in the studio on Friday, man. Yes, sir.

52:27James Harrison:Is the shit going to be plugged in? Debo, my shit going to be on 100%. I promise you, my brother. Okay. Okay. I'm just checking. Hey, we out.

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