Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Steelers QB Decision Fuels Offseason Rumors

22:34Joe Haden:He said he ain't hiding it. He said the number one thing the fans want is affordability. they want affordability they want safety and they want a good experience when they come to the ballpark believe it or not winning is not even in they top five I said winning ain't even in they top five he is the owner of the Los Angeles Angels and I'm a player and you telling me winning ain't in your top five or their top five, which means for him, he's a businessman. And he is about the business of making money, not the business of winning championships. Okay. Here you go. He said the moms want to be able to afford to bring the kids.

23:39Joe Haden:Moms make about 80 % of the decisions. They want to be able to bring their kids and be affordable, and they want safety, and they want to have a good experience. So they get all the entertainment stuff or whatever, or whatever, or whatever. He said the purists, you know, it's just straight winning. We ain't got no purists around here. He said, I want to be able to just get the people that want to have some entertainment. We don't care about the sports fans. We don't care about the purists. We care about making this money. Listen, this is a business. And I'm in the business of making money, baby.

24:24Joe Haden:That's what he said. That's the owner. that's that's the that's the owner of a professional sports team

24:37hey

24:41Joe Haden:I don't know how much you know how much clearer you could you could you could say this and he he ain't sugar coated he ain't sugar coated it, let them know.

25:00Joe Haden:Now, if you think Major League Baseball owners are the only ones saying it,

25:12Joe Haden:they may be the only ones saying it out loud, or foolish enough to say it out loud. And they ain't got no cap. And they ain't even got no salary cap. He's saying this out loud with no salary cap.

25:27It ain't. Hey, if you playing for the Los Angeles Angels,

25:36Joe Haden:get that bad. Because you ain't about to win no championship. He ain't worried about nothing, but having a good time, selling them tickets to them people that he need to sell. And that's it. listen this the only time i'd have never thought that i might be able to play baseball ain't no pressure over there to win i might be able to go over there give me a little bag at least a lunch pail hopefully if i could stay in there for the curb i got a problem with the curve i got a problem with the curve ball i ain't gonna lie to y 'all i tried to play baseball in high school. I started late. Started late.

26:18Joe Haden:Now, it was my junior or senior year. Okay? And they wanted me to go out there and play baseball. I tried to play baseball. So I was fast. You know what I'm saying? That was when I was light. The book said I was 6 '2", 210. But I was 6 '2", about 190 pounds. Okay? But I was fast. Okay? I was fast. I used to play running back. I used to play running back. I ain't gonna lie to you. I was victim weight at one time. I was victim weight, okay? But that was in high school. That was in high school. Wasn't quite yet a grown man yet. I wasn't like Joe. I wasn't grown man victim weight. You know what I'm saying?

26:52Joe Haden:Yeah. So, I said, hey, man, come on out, man. Let's try some baseball, man. So, I get out there, right? I'm sitting in there, you know? And I'm in there, banging, you know? Hitting a little bit here, hitting a little bit there. Missing too. Missing a little bit too. Missing a little bit too. But, hey, I could run the bases. get down there. They couldn't, I still wanted them things. Right. So day one, they played me. They played me. Listen, they played me. They played me like a fool. I played my, they played me like a fool. They knew what they was doing. Dang. They could have got me out of there day one, but they went and played with me.

27:26Joe Haden:So this, oh, I'm too, now I think about it. So this is what they did, right? So I'm in there. I'm thinking I'm going to get, you know, I'm about to do it. So we get back. It's day two. Day two. I'm a righty. So I'm back and right-handed, right? so I get out there and they say alright give him a curve I'm like what's a curve curve ball I'm like cool let's go they got a righty throwing to me I don't know how many of y 'all that never had a curve ball threw at you and you ain't never had a ball throwing at you period until the day before now this is day two okay so This dude throws this curveball.

28:15Joe Haden:He's a righty. I'm batting right. The ball looks like it's about to hit me in the head. It's a curve. He's in high school. He got a curveball that came like this and zoomed in, bow, and came down on your boy. I didn't know the damn ball could do that. So as soon as he released it, I waited about a quarter second and I went to duck. When I went to duck, I ducked down and I hear. I almost hit myself in the head ducking because it went into the strike zone. I'm ready to charge him in practice because I think he done tried to hit me with the ball until I ducked down and realized I almost popped myself.

29:05So they go, hey, you got to stand in there and wait a little longer to make sure it's a curve.

29:12Joe Haden:I'm like, what you mean? So I stand in there. He throw it again. I stand in there. I try and wait a little longer. As I wait, the ball don't look like it is. So again, I dug I dug down, but I back out this time so I can see where it's going. but I'm like this. Pow! I said, look here. I'm going to let you throw one more. If I can't stand in there, I quit. Bruh. On my daddy, I could not stand in there. I couldn't stand in there. That ball hit you in the head, bruh. I can't take that. And you want me to wait and see? I see how baseball players get hit. When y 'all see the ball and it's coming straight at their head, They like it's about to curve and then it don't.

30:06Joe Haden:That's how they get hit. They don't let their fear factor go away and be like, no, no. And I'm going to tell you, see, and that's something else. Look, if you hit me with a baseball, you just threw a 80, 90, 100 mile an hour baseball at me. Right. And I, by some way, get out of the way or you hit me. Now, if you hit me, why would I drop the bat on my way to come see you? You just threw a baseball at my head. You just tried to take my life. You think I ain't bringing that bat with me? Like, what are you talking about? You go drop the bat and try? No, I'm going to slap this dude right here. I'm going to slap the catcher with this bat across his head so he can't get to me before I get to you.

31:00Joe Haden:And then I'm coming to see you. And then they be hitting each other because you made a home run on me and you didn't run the bases fast enough or you looked at me after you hit it. What? Your dumb ass shouldn't have threw the ball where I can hit the home run.

31:17Joe Haden:Listen, baseball got a totally different set of rules that I don't understand. And that's why I didn't play it. I had to get out of it before I even started.

31:31So I don't,

31:33Joe Haden:anybody in here play baseball to understand what it comes, like what makes it so that y 'all believe that it's okay for me to slap you with a ball because you hit a home run on me and then looked at me. Who, who does that? Who says that's okay? what's the dude's name? Oh my goodness. Little short dude. Baseball. He used to bank. Kirby Puckett. Didn't they pop Kirby Puckett? Like with a baseball in the head or something? I think they end that man career or something, didn't they? Like, come on. Who in the... Bruh. Bruh. Like, come on. Bruh. Hit in the face by a 95-mile-an-hour fastball. Broke this man's jaw.

32:33Joe Haden:Guess who did it? Cleveland. I told you. Ain't nothing good in Cleveland. Y 'all don't want to listen to me, man. Cleveland is dirty. Everything about them dirty. The color's dirty. Dirty brown. Dookie brown. They, I ain't going to lie, I used to be an Indians fan, though. I ain't going to lie. That's back when they had, that's back when they had Bell. That's back when they had Bell. They the Guardians now, but back when they had Bell, you know, Bell, he was chasing kids with baseball bats. They want to play around, play games. You go slap them, you go slap them little bats with some baseball bats now.

33:10Joe Haden:I understand that. Hey, you want to play? I got something for you to play with. I got something, hey, you don't play with me. Go play with your mama now. Go play with your mama and your daddy. You don't play with me. Uh-uh. He was going to slap them with that baseball bat. But I remember they won like a hundred something games. That was like a big thing. And then we ended up losing the World Series. See, that's when I was a Cleveland fan. I was a Cleveland fan back then. That's the thing. I was a Cleveland fan. It ain't, I ain't gonna lie, it ain't too much to celebrate around here in Pittsburgh with baseball.

33:39And I ain't gonna lie, I think they, I hate to say it,

33:43Joe Haden:but I think the Pirates might be like this. this owner over here with that baseball thing now. It seemed like every time we get a good one, they talk about this good one we got, that all of a sudden they done slung him off. They done traded him off. Because they know y 'all about to run to that baseball game. Y 'all know y 'all about to run to that baseball game. They trade him off when it comes time for that bag to get paid. Now, I'm going to have to, man, listen. I'm going to have to check out some Pirates just because of that. Now that I'm thinking about it. Listen, I also went to a Pirates game.

34:19Joe Haden:So I was trying to get my kids. I was trying to get my kids into other sports like these dudes don't understand. Like you play football, but if you play other sports, it'll make you better in your chosen sport. So like you need to do all the sports you can that are within your limits. It's, you know, you don't want to overextend yourself and all that, but you want to do other things because it's going to help you in your chosen sport. So I take them to a baseball game. Take my kids to the baseball game. Now, mind you, we are in. We are in a sweet, like, laid out.

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38:32Joe Haden:Terms apply. And it's just me, James, and Henry. This suite is huge. It's probably like 20-seat suite. Food, all that in there, right? We get there. I'm like, all right, cool. Let's do this. We eat the food. We're sitting there watching the game. these little bastards, they get to the second inning and they talking about they want to leave. It's boring. I say, what? I ain't even got to that point yet. Hey, listen, let it play out. We got to, they ain't doing nothing. There ain't no action going on. I'm like, yeah, but somebody go hit something and it's going to be, it's going to be action. No.

39:20I said,

39:21Joe Haden:all right then if y 'all want to leave I tried to you ain't never coming to another baseball game again in your life I ain't never taking y 'all okay I held to my parents and they ain't they actually ain't never asked to go back to to another baseball game but that was me trying to get them into baseball so they a little older a lot older now but I might I might have to see if I can get him back into it. It's going to be too late for him to play any baseball because that curveball, I'm telling you, that curveball is a monster. And I knew they did that on purpose. They could have had a lefty throw me a curveball.

40:00Joe Haden:That way I could have stood in there. They know what they did. They could have gave me a lefty first. Then I would have seen that it could curve back in before he threw that first one at my head. And it didn't go at my head. But in my mind, I knew it was going at my head. I want... Anyway. And then I also, I tried to get them into hockey. So I went to like two pins games. I'm like, they like, yeah, these games right here, they about to fight. They about to fight. They go fight in these games. We get there, no fight. Zero. Zero action. I said, they're supposed to be fighting. Don't get mad at me.

40:40Joe Haden:That's what they told me. This is the game. It's supposed to go down. So we go to another one, right? Go to this one. No action. I can't even get them into it. I can't even get him to hockey. And I'm like, yo, look, I take him to the Kiesels. I'm like, yo, look, they let him fist the cuff a little bit. They don't let him do like the pros do, but they let him get into a little scuffle. They let him go ahead and bump a little bit. I throw the stick across your neck. You know what I'm saying? Put me in the box. They let him get a couple of jabs in before the ref gets through there. I'm like, yo, you get to fight on skates.

41:16Joe Haden:They're like, yeah, but I could just go to the gym and just fight on my feet. I'm like, y 'all don't understand how this works. You learn how to skate, that's going to help you better. I don't want to do that. I'm like, dude, balance, coordination, all that. I don't know why these kids don't want to listen nowadays, man. But we're going to have to check out some baseball games. And on top of that, we got to see what's going on in the chat. Okay. I'm saying we. I told Joe. Joe, listen. I don't want to say nothing reckless because I got to make sure my man make it home. But I told your ass, don't you go there.

42:01Joe Haden:I said, when you said, hey, where is that? I'm going. It's Cabo. Where is Cabo? Where is that? Mexico. Oh, hell no. So, listen, before I travel somewhere, I got to make sure that everything that could go wrong, if it does go wrong, cannot be good. If the answer is no, I can't go. And I'm going to be, it's going to sound a little messed up. I'm going to be a little honest. I can't go nowhere where I can't communicate. if I'm not fluent in the language of whatever it is and the only thing I'm fluent in is English I can't go because if I get jammed up I don't even know how to communicate like what I need to do to give you whatever I need to give you to get out of this jam like it don't it don't make no sense we're going to go on over here to the chat though man covenant life back Covenant life, stay on.

43:06Joe Haden:Covenant life, stay on it, though. Look here. Covenant life,$10. Covenant life, you be out there traveling, too. Hey, don't be going down. And then, before I get to the chat, I got other people that's like, I'm thinking about going down to Mexico. I got a trip set up. You think I should still go? Hell no. What you asking me for? the government didn't already say hey y 'all get up out of there get up out of there check the site dot god say get up out of there boss shelter in place you want to fly down there to shelter in place and they might be waiting at the airport because that's the first thing they did is they went at the airport they went at the airport was like yeah we know there's some americans in here covenant light she said joe we love you please be safe get back to you get back to the pod very soon praying for you praying for your safety plant praying for your praying for everyone in your safe return no question oh we got this hey chad throw some prayers up for joe let me see it let Let me see it.

44:21Joe Haden:My boy on his way back. I'm hoping he... Let me hit my guy up. Let me see if he... Let me check it out. Let me call my dude. Let me see where he at. Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe. Covenant Life. We got another one for Covenant Life. Hold on. Calling my guy Joe right now. Whoa, we got Covenant Life, Covenant Life, Covenant Life. Covenant Life talking to me today, baby. Covenant Life,$20. She said, this makes me nervous about the new regiment because we may be losing some very good players in our team.

45:05Joe Haden:He didn't answer. Joe did not answer, Phillip. Damn it. Joe didn't answer. Joe did not answer. chat joe did not answer we need we need prayers in the chat now let's go she said this makes me very nervous about the new regimen because we may be losing regime sorry we may be losing some very we may be losing some very good players in our team look the same change is good but we don't want to lose that identity of who we are as stillers um i understand what you i understand what you're saying like yeah you got to pay our players i don't think we're going to lose very or a lot of guys that are um had more than uh had key roles i should say had key roles in what it was that we were doing so i don't think we're going to lose a lot of them but i also believe that we need to keep a lot of the role players um uh Ben Skoranek being one of those guys I think he's a guy that we need to keep because he's a hell of a special teams player and he can play he can play in the offense as a receiver when needed I mean you can just look and see he was dominant you know in the special teams game he made the pro bowl I believe that's a player that we have to keep so I just don't I don't see us losing players like that of his status and I believe we'll be able to keep most of our you know key key starters you know another one like I said I'm nervous about or I'm I'm I'm weary of or or however you want to say is Herbic.

47:02Joe Haden:Herbic is another one. I'm hoping we can see what we can do with that and, you know, the whole Highsmith situation. So I guess we're going to have to wait and see. Covenant Life again,$50. She said, yesterday, because it was Sunday, I watched three recorded Pittsburgh Steelers games. And let me tell you that Jack is going to be our beast. And the player that we need to immediately give up is, oh, hell, no Smith. Put in Howard. Give up. What's that? Hell, no Smith. Who is Smith? What's Smith? I don't know what that one is. But I understand to put Howard in. Jack is good but Jack is still he's still young I think he's a rookie right so we don't oh she wants to give up Highsmith

48:08Joe Haden:I don't know I understand I understand Jack held down I think it was when TJ was out so like I said the whole the whole Highsmith situation and how we have other we have Herbert actually coming up that's something that I'm just uh you know it's not that he can't play it's just that I think we could get a lot or can get a significant amount or or in in trade from him for him versus the potential of of drop or, um, or better play with the guys that, that are there in longterm of play as far as having a multi-year deal, being able to be put in place with guys who are coming up and only have, you know, only have one year, only have one year left, you know, on their contract, especially with, you know, we got to, We got to get Joey paid.

49:22Like, is that something that, you know, we got to do to open up money to get guys paid

49:27Joe Haden:along with being able to get a better deal now versus letting them play out the deal? You know what I'm saying? And then trying to sign him after the year, it's not, I don't think that's something that's going to be conducive to us being able to get a good deal, especially if he balls out. We got another one, Covenant Life. A hundred dollars. Thank you very much, Covenant Life. She said, let's continue to pray. This is the most important message, actually. She says, let's continue to pray for the players because we don't know how we don't really know what mental stress some of these players are under just to make a team or just to stay relevant because we're losing too many wonderful men.

50:19Joe Haden:I've always loved seeing the players come together to pray. Yeah, we ended up losing a player.

50:35He had, obviously he had some issues that led him to do a thing that, you know, you can't come back from.

50:46Joe Haden:I think everybody should, you know, check in on your people. I think guys that are close to you. I think another thing is that guys are afraid to ask for help. You have to have a close group of friends that you are willing to be vulnerable with, willing to be 100 percent open and honest. about. And, you know, number one, I believe it's your relationship with your Lord and Savior. And that, for me, has been the greatest difference for me in my last two years, is accepting my Lord and Savior and building a relationship with those like-minded and being and around people who are like-minded. I understand, you know, mental health, you need to have mental, you know, experts and all that to talk to, but having that relationship and that foundation, God first, it's been unbelievable, helpful in my life.

52:12Joe Haden:it's other people that like it's times man where i'm going through something and it's crazy i'm not gonna say his name but since i've started my walk and my journey with building a relationship with my lord and savior this dude calls me or he'll he'll text me and he's like hey what you doing let's meet up and it's like it's like perfect time and it's almost like god is talking to him, hey, and I'm, you know, I'm still at that point where I'm hesitant to reach out, but I'm also not in a situation where I'm thinking about doing anything to myself, but it's situations where, you know what, I probably should talk to somebody because it would be good.

53:02Joe Haden:I'm in a bad place right now, but it's almost like he feels it, dude. It's crazy. It's crazy. And also my son, he talks to my son, too. No, I got I got I got two. I got two real, real close friends, brothers in Christ. That that had my back. That God has his hands on, obviously. And, you know, I think that's something that everybody should have. man, if you're not saved, get saved. You don't have a relationship with your Lord and Savior. Start being one. It makes things different. You know, everybody, everybody calls somebody. Everybody loves somebody. Everybody loves somebody. Everybody check on somebody.

53:49Joe Haden:I'm going to check on Joe. I want to thank you guys for joining us on this episode of Deebo and Joe. Please make sure you like and subscribe and download where you get your podcast. Continue to pray for my brother Joe. And we'll be back here tomorrow. God willing, we out.

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