Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Steelers waiting on Aaron Rodgers decision + Jim Schwartz resigns

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18:10Joe Haden:And be like, yo, I want to go through the interview process of doing the interviews for the players and get an understanding of that player. I want to talk to your family. I want to talk to your mom. I want to talk to your daddy. If you got a long-term girlfriend, I want to talk to her. If you're married, I want to talk to your wife. I need to understand the whole character or the person that I'm going to either draft or bring to this organization. Oh, yeah. If I can know that what I see on the field is just, oh, that's great and gravy. But if you, behind the scenes, is a person that don't nobody want to deal with, you know best, everything is your way, you can't take no coaching.

18:51Joe Haden:I was that dude, dude. I couldn't take no coaching, bro. And the reason I couldn't take coaching is because I was so insecure to let people know that I didn't know what I was doing. I just used that as my shield of, oh, okay. Okay. You know? Damn. That's what it was, bro. Like, I had to get over that and just be like, you know what? It ain't no problem to ask for help. Yeah. I'm like, you know what? I'm just so, you know, I don't want to let them know I don't know what I'm doing. I don't want to look like the person that, you know, is asking a bunch of questions, you know.

19:31James Harrison:Chico, that's crazy. I would expect, look, because I was the opposite. Like, and I normally knew the stuff, but when I went to Florida, I never played corner a day in my life. So I got switched and started playing corner my freshman year at Florida. I had no choice but to ask questions. You know what I'm saying? I just wanted to coach, and I had a great DB coach, Vance Bedford, and he taught me. He played the game, and he taught me the game. Stance, alignment, assignment, technique, and all that stuff. I look like a robot. I'm not going to lie. The first year I learned the game, because I just wanted to be in my spot.

20:05James Harrison:I wanted to make sure my job was done exactly right. You told me to jam him inside, coach. I'm going to jam him both sides. I'm going to do exact. I look robotish, but I was doing exactly what I needed to do. So, action, being able to understand. It's a big difference, though. You came into the league, Joe.

20:22Joe Haden:You're a draft. You're a draft. Yes, I came in high, Debo. You came in high. It's a big difference between what you get as far as an attention and what I get as far as an undrafted dude that they just like, yo, you a fucking roster spot. You're just to fill this void until the camp is over. Okay, no, I feel you with that. On that side. No, bro, stop, bro. Listen to me. You know you need to come ask. You got the coach that just don't even really. My coach, my first coach, dude. That dude run over everything. And I'm like, hey, hey, hey. Before I can get a question, boy, I'm about to run.

20:55James Harrison:Okay, no, no, no. And I'm looking at me like, I don't. I get you on that. I get you on that. That part, that part when you scare your coach like this. What do you mean you ain't get it? When you're like, you're not, you're an undrafted dude. It's a different situation. I completely understand. That's when you'll want to see you hopefully then had a cool vet that knew the game and wasn't worried about his job, wasn't worried about getting this plot took in. They ain't no worried about getting my spot took it from you. No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm talking – look, no, no, this is what I'm talking about.

21:23James Harrison:Oh, yeah, you? I'm talking about you in the league and you a young player that comes in and you don't really know. You want to go ask a vet that's – some vet's like this, man, get out of here. Not trying to help. Or you got a vet that's comfortable in his own skin, knows he's chilling his job. Cool. Here, man, give you some game. Tell you what's going on. Like, no, this is how you need to do it on this defense. Boom, boom, boom. So that's what I would have tried to look at then. Because I know the young dudes, when they come in, coaches, maybe not. A quality control guy, a vet, hopefully that's cool.

21:51James Harrison:Those would be the dudes that you could probably ask the question to. Because, you know, I know exactly what you're saying. You're looking at the coach like, man, if you don't get your dumb out my face, you just get out my way. They're not looking to help you. They're looking to help the draft picks. Completely understand.

22:05Joe Haden:Yeah, they look – yeah, don't let me waste my time on you. And most of the time, they done vouched for the dude they done picked up anyway. They done vouched for him? Like, yeah, can't come in there. Dude, I sat behind the cat for like three years, bro, because he was like a second-round draft choice, brother. Let's go over here to Cleveland, though. Your boy say he not returning to the Browns. Tight end. How you say that name? David Njoku. Njoku. David Njoku. David Njoku said he is not returning to the Browns, brother. What's going on?

22:37James Harrison:You know why, man? You know how it goes, man. It's time. You know my man David Njoku.

22:42Joe Haden:He ain't put out no cryptic statement. That boy said, you know why? First of all, I love you.

22:47James Harrison:His deal is up, my brother. He's going to be an unrestricted free agent.

22:51Joe Haden:That boy said, don't call me.

22:52James Harrison:Don't think I'm coming back. No, no. No, no. He signed a four-year, but I can tell you. I think this is more to the city. He signed a four-year,$54 million deal. And the season we just played was the last year on it. Harold Fannin Jr., rookie. He's on a four-year, 6.7, 1.6 a year. and he just went to the, basically went to the Pro Bowl. So, I mean, it's nine years. I know Joku, baller, been great for the Browns and great for the city, but it's kind of how the game goes. You know what I'm saying? Like times they're not going to resign. I mean, it seems like he doesn't want to come back for maybe they talk to see what he got some fillers out.

23:32James Harrison:Like, hey, man, I thought about bringing me back. This looks like they already had the conversations. They look like they didn't want to deal. So he knows he's going to be unrestricted free agent. It's just a buy to the city. You know, he's still playing. He got plenty of options of places to go. But with Cleveland right now, you know how that gets. When it gets to the later end of your career, you just finished, closed it out. You trying to figure out what's going on? That looks like to me, they talked to him and his agent. The agent reached out to them. They reached back. It's like this. Don't look like too much going to be going down in Cleveland.

24:01James Harrison:So he's like, all right, I'm going to go ahead and say my goodbyes.

24:04Joe Haden:Okay. It makes sense. That makes sense. Because they got it like he was like, yo, I ain't returning. Like, your approach, reasoning it out, me sitting back, instead of, you know, just making like everybody want to get out of Cleveland, which they do. Which they do. Which they do. No, which they don't. No, not they don't. They don't unless they get their bag, Miles.

24:31Joe Haden:Man, listen, everybody want to get out of Cleveland, but we had somebody that wanted to stay, man. Your dude wanted to stay. Yeah, dude. But to stay back. And he had to go ahead and give in his resignation a couple days ago. Jim Schwartz said, you know what, man?

24:51James Harrison:That man Jim Schwartz said. I'm resigned.

24:53Joe Haden:I'm resigned, man. Brown still ain't got a DC. What y 'all going to do, Joe? We going to get a DC.

25:00James Harrison:We going to get a DC.

25:03Joe Haden:Who you going to get to come to Cleveland? I don't know, Debo. I don't know. Who would you like to come to Cleveland, Joe? You want to go be D coordinator? No. Wow. You don't want to help your team. I do want to help my team. You love so much that you was running your mouth to me when y 'all actually had a, y 'all beat us. It was, what? You don't want to go? I love my Browns.

25:30James Harrison:I do. I do. I do. I don't want to just, look, I need to get my, I want to, I'm not.

25:37Joe Haden:You're doing a lot of stuttering, Joe. I'm not ready yet. I'm not ready yet. I'm not ready yet. I want to be the DB. You do a lot of that.

25:42James Harrison:I'm not ready yet. We need to get a solid DB. We need to get a solid defensive coordinator. I'm just, look. Oh, you said you ain't ready. So you come in as a DB coach. I'm not going to come in there after Jim Swartz and come down there and just, like, I don't got my scheme all set up yet. I got it. No, I'm not ready.

26:00Joe Haden:I'm going to use his.

26:04Joe Haden:I'm going to use his.

26:06James Harrison:That's a good idea. That's a great idea.

26:06Joe Haden:Stay there. Stick with what works. Why am I going to come in there and try and change the recipe? Everybody want to put their own twist on shit. And look what happens. You can't change something that has a platen. It's platen. This is how it works, dude. It's ruled out. And every offense, defense, no matter how it's ruled out, has a weakness. And if they blitz too many, the quarterback got to know the hot and get it out. And if they hit a spot, you got to know that, hey, they going to get 10, 12, tackle the catch. go in there, take his defense, and make it your defense, Joe. Listen. Listen. Also, man, I don't know, man.

26:45Joe Haden:Where was Schwartz's head coach at? Where was his head coach at? Wasn't it the Detroit Lions? Yeah, it was Detroit. Hey, hey, I'm hearing the man got a little ego, too. I'm hearing the man got a little ego. I mean, by little, I say little ego. And like this right here, man, just took off on him.

27:08James Harrison:I can't believe that he took off on us. I mean, I can't believe it because he wanted the head coaching job. He wanted it bad. But I would have hoped that the owners talked to him.

27:21Joe Haden:All these players talking about gym this, gym that loves gym, he said, oh, they didn't give me the job? You guys, I'm gone.

27:32Joe Haden:that ain't love bro

27:33James Harrison:but he felt like he deserved better I feel like he should

27:36Joe Haden:I understand he deserved better he only had one year left man go ahead get your boys get your boys that last year

27:41James Harrison:get that boy that last year man the Browns Miles misses you

27:44Joe Haden:you ain't about you ain't about to get a job nowhere else anyway you just resigned that's the death penalty for a coach just leave up out of there and you wasn't even a good head coach you was trash and you still under contract yes and you was a trash head coach yeah that's not a good look one of the worst to ever do it thing I'm just saying yeah with the 30th worst 300 and something worse ever and something like come on yeah man I mean I understand but I also understand that prime example like if you really cared about these dudes like yo Let's go. I'm under contract anyway. I got one more year.

28:33Joe Haden:I'm going to swallow this. Let's run it back.

28:36James Harrison:We do one more year. And then he go get And how does it work if you just resign

28:42Joe Haden:and you're under contract? Do he got to pay that back? How does that work? I don't even know how coaches Can you ever go anywhere else because I own you.

28:53James Harrison:I got your rights. Is that like a player trying to retire? to get out of a deal and then just come back.

28:59Joe Haden:Like Gronk, when he retired, he retired and he came back and they had to give something to New England to get him in Tampa. Yep. Like, do you think that they are going to allow you to come back and coach anywhere after you just did this? I'm going to tell them, hey, listen, what you want to do to keep or get this man, and then they go say, well, we're willing to do this. And I'm going to say, give me 150 million and I'll let him coach for you. You just went and screwed us over like this. You ain't going to never get another ego. My ego go talk as an owner. My ego go talk, bro. You ain't letting him go for nothing.

29:42Joe Haden:No, you ain't. I ain't letting him go for nothing. You think you left because you got the, oh, I'm thinking. You left because you were mad. They going to miss me. No, you going to miss never getting a job in the NFL again.

29:54James Harrison:That's ego talk. Yeah, he got to, Man, you got to play that deal out, brother. You got one more year left, and they balling. I know you and your feelings you wanted to be the head coach, but come on. Everybody don't get what we want.

30:07Joe Haden:Everybody doesn't get what we want. Like, it ain't nobody that thought, oh, we don't give him the head job. He just going to leave, resign, leave the contract. Now you have nowhere you can go without the Cleveland Browns that has them saying, hey, we'll allow this if you give us that. I'm going to make the price so high that nobody will touch you. Yeah. You on the shelf. You on the shelf. I don't even. He can't go pro. He can maybe go back to college maybe. I don't even know.

30:37James Harrison:I don't know. We got to look and see what his contract say. He got to look at the little fine print in that joint.

30:44Joe Haden:Like, yeah, we got to check into that. They might got to trade him. They could see if they could. Yeah, he could be traded. Right. But trade him for what? What are you... I'm going to trade him. Yep. Who is... Who's what he's going to get for? Right.

31:00James Harrison:What you going to get for him?

31:01Joe Haden:Right. What you going to give me the trading to you? I'm going to make the price so high, bro. Like you were acting out as a ego-driven, whatever you want to call it. I'm going to act ego-driven because I now have control of if you ever did a job in the NFL again. That's the craziest move ever. You got to think about it. When a player sit out, sit out, you just sitting out. You can sit out as long as you want to. It don't count until you get that year.

31:35James Harrison:You said a player can sit out?

31:37Joe Haden:Bro, you can sit out. They still own you for the next year because you ain't playing under that year.

31:42James Harrison:But don't you get – aren't you getting fined if you don't show up?

31:46Joe Haden:Yeah. I don't know coaches.

31:48James Harrison:Do the owners – do the coaches get fined? No, no. He resigned, though. But that's like, you can't get fined except if you're like a player. Can the player resign? Is resigning like the same thing as retiring?

31:59Joe Haden:It's retiring. They can ask for money back. Okay. Depending on how it is or where it is or who you are. Well, I be done. Like, that's why. Like, yeah, give me that money back, bro. Y 'all got to get that on up over here, baby. Y 'all got to get that on up over here. You left because you mad. And hey, listen, they can do that. And you know what?

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35:50Joe Haden:That ain't enough. That ain't enough. I need more. I need more. More money. Speaking of money, man. Oh, man. Boomer. Boomer, Boomer. Boomer said, Boomer said that Sam Darnold lost money playing in the Super Bowl because of California taxes, bro.

36:09James Harrison:That is, when I first read it, I didn't understand what y 'all were trying to say.

36:14Joe Haden:I totally understand it once I went through it, bro.

36:16James Harrison:I did it until I started reading it. And then I said, oh, this doesn't make any sense. Zero.

36:23Joe Haden:Zero. NFLPA, I'm with him. NFLPA need to shut it down, never play another Super Bowl in the state of California again until it is. NFLPA needs to go to the NFL. We are not playing in California Super Bowls until you kill this jock tax. That's crazy. I got to pay you a whole percentage of my salary. And Debo, Debo. Not just the week I played there, the whole year.

36:51James Harrison:Let me start this. Debo, we want to start this off by saying. I want to start this off by saying, people, please understand this. I understand when you, like, don't talk about if you're making money, da-da-da. The hell with all that. The hell with all that. I'm just trying to break this down to you, and it makes zero sense. What it all made me come outside myself. When you, in your salary, though, Debo, in your salary, you know, during the playoffs, you're not getting paid your salary. No. Right? Like, this playoff football. Dude, it don't even matter if I am being paid my salary. They're taxing the whole year, Joe.

37:25James Harrison:That's what I'm saying. Each team makes$100 ,000. How could you get? So each team made$178 ,000, right? Each player. Each player makes$178 ,000 for the Super Bowl. The ones that lost, they lost more money. The ones that lost, oh my, yeah. So they probably get, what,$100 ,000 maybe? It don't matter. It don't even say.

37:48Joe Haden:They're still taxing their whole base. Their whole base, okay. And you're getting half the pay for the loss. So they got 178. What's the name? Probably got like 70-something. 70-something. So they're getting hit even harder.

38:03James Harrison:They're hitting you seven for duty? They call it duty days of them staying out there for seven days. They're getting hit each day that they're out in Los Angeles. On your whole check. Patrick Mahomes, if he was 50...

38:21Joe Haden:You hitting him on 50 and he only made, if he won, he only made 178. Huh? You hitting him on the whole 50.

38:30James Harrison:The thing that doesn't make sense to me though, Debo, is if you want to live out there, this is what I'm saying. How can it go over what you made there? You going to play at Super Bowl. Super Bowl is$178 ,000 you made in the game, right? You leave with a bill of$250 ,000. and you're getting taxed on your check already. So you coming out to Joe, after that$178 ,000, he might see$80 ,000 of it,$85 ,000. And then he's going to have to pay$250 ,000 because you went out there to prepare to play in the Super Bowl. That is one of the craziest things I've ever heard. You lost money going out there, bro.

39:13James Harrison:If he had to take the— He won the Super Bowl and lost money. If he had to go play and he got a check for$178 ,000 to play in the Super Bowl, and they took the whole check. That's still crazy. But you take the whole check and then tell a man he got to write you a check for$71 ,000 out of his pocket when he just came out here and played in the game. And you already took the 178. And now you're going to just be like, no, you got to write another check, Fulio, because you was out here practicing.

39:42Joe Haden:Hold up, hold up. Look at this, though. Look at this, though. Think about how much money it brings the state of California when everybody is flooding there. And now we brought the Super Bowl here.

39:53James Harrison:Hundreds of millions of dollars and you're pulling more money out the boys' pockets. You talk about everybody's money. They taking money out the MVP pocket to come out there and play. How? That's crazy.

40:05Joe Haden:Bruh. Bruh. I knew it was a reason. I wasn't going to move anyway. I like the changes of weather. It makes you appreciate a 40-degree day. You know, so. Oh. Joe. Joe. All I know. NFLPA. Who is the NFLPA current executive director? Whatever you're doing, and like I said, he will only be there for so long. I'm still waiting on them to get me the information. That's what I need to do to run for the NFLPA executive director. But I ain't heard none hide nor hair yet from it. They say they was going to notify. They ain't notified nobody. But anyway, like I said, NFLPA needs to be on the NFL's neck and let them know we ain't playing in the state of California.

40:49Joe Haden:until y 'all get rid of that jock tax. That's crazy.

40:54James Harrison:That's almost like, though, Debo, when it couldn't, like, in the Pro Bowl, if we went to Hawaii. LA. It's in LA next year. It's in LA. Yes. Are they going to jock tax people

41:03Joe Haden:being out there for the week in LA? If you play in the Pro Bowl and it's in LA, you getting jock. That's why it's a jock tax. You play a sport out there, you getting it. You getting it. And then they say, oh, it don't matter. Don't nobody care. Yeah, don't nobody care because, How many percentage of people are professional athletes? They got the money. Let's get it. Let's hit it. That's crazy. You win the Super Bowl, Sam, and the MVP. Hey, they need a tech tax. They got enough tech out there. They can get a lot of money from that.

41:37James Harrison:Oh, my goodness, Deebo. That's crazy work. I couldn't believe it. I didn't think. I thought that he got taxed ridiculous amount of money off of his 178. You know what I'm saying?

41:47Joe Haden:I couldn't believe they said his hoe. I said, what are you telling me?

41:51James Harrison:This man had to write a check for a quarter M? Huh? Why?

41:58Joe Haden:They out there stealing. No. They raping. I was out here raping them boys. You know, 34, I was murdered. I was killing them. Them boys couldn't touch me.

42:13James Harrison:Ain't never got no red shirt. Bruh.

42:16Joe Haden:Ain't that red shirt mean?

42:17James Harrison:Red shirt, me? Huh? Who? I got a red shirt because I only got a red shirt on because it's camp day.

42:24Joe Haden:You know what I'm saying? Bruh. Yeah. They got to fix that. That's all, all, all on the NFL PA leadership and making sure they're doing what is best for the players. The players and not what is best for the league. You know what? That's when they started making it to where, like, You know how you got to file taxes in every state you're playing? Yes. I used to be the NFL had to do that. The teams, they switched that on over to us. To the players, it makes you have to do it. Oh, yeah, buddy. Oh, man. Oh, yeah, buddy. No question, Joe. Joe, it's 12. Hey, we got Super Chats. What we got, dude? What we got right here, we got Michaela Randall, 8843, donated$10.

43:14Joe Haden:Tell us, keep it real, Debo. Will you still learn D-line defense and start coaching? What's D-line defense? What's that?

43:28James Harrison:Will you still learn D-line defense and start coaching? Don't let me out Baltimore. Do you think you're wrong?

43:37Joe Haden:Hey, Joe, I don't know what they said. I ain't going to lie.

43:40James Harrison:So, don't let me out. Joe, it's me being out Baltimore. or do you think it's wrong for me to be a Steelers fan? 43 is the reason I'm a fan. 43 over 28. Wow. I mean, look, to each its own. I ain't going to lie. I'm from Maryland. They keep wanting me to be a Washington, D.C. It was a Redskins fan back in the day. My grandpa was a big Redskins fan. But be a fan of who you like. If you like Troy, Troy one of the best safeties to ever do it. So if that's who you like and that's why you started rocking with a team, rock with your team. Don't let nobody tell you who can be your favorite team because it's your favorite team.

44:20Joe Haden:I got you. Listen, this got to be somebody young because my sons be writing like that and I'll be like, yo, what are you saying? Appreciate you. Appreciate you. No question. Oh, it came back again with another one. Oh, they say we got 12 drive picks?

44:38James Harrison:Yeah.

44:38Joe Haden:They say we got 12?

44:40James Harrison:That's what I'm saying, Debo.

44:42Joe Haden:Hey, we got 12? For real?

44:47Joe Haden:Dude, we're going to have to dive into that and check that out for sure.

44:50James Harrison:That's what I'm saying. Line receivers. Linebackers. Fire. And if it's 12, it don't got to always be 12. We can make it. 12 sounds good. But a good eight is better than just 12. If we could trade to get two of those to get a good one or somebody that we really like a better pick, yes. Don't just be getting just people to have people. If we see that we can make eight of those picks be really, really good, don't just get 12 guys. Don't just get 12 guys. Let's figure it out. Let's make it work. Let's make it make sense. Let's get the best players. Let's get what we need.

45:27Joe Haden:No, we're going to get 12 of what we need and what's the best, but if we got 12, that is for sure. That is for sure. We will definitely, we're going to check that out. And if we got, we will definitely be talking about that coming up on the next one. But I got another one right here from Foxy Mama. Four, three, two, one donated$5 said, would you go coach with Coach Prime? Would you go? Yeah. Would I go coach with Coach Prime? I'm not, we just talked about this. I know I can't get enough money in college. I just you know it ain't it ain't about who I'm coaching for it's about uh how much I'm coaching for it ain't who it's how much for me I ain't I ain't got that much love for the game to be honest but it's one way that that could happen only way that could ever happen is if my sons wanted me to coach them.

46:25Joe Haden:That's the only way that could happen. And it was allowed to happen because my sons have wanted me to coach them. It just has not been allowed to happen. It ain't allowed yet. Yeah, it's just not allowed to happen. Okay. That's it. But if my sons wanted me to 100%, they would have me in. That's no question. Joseph, We don't want a little over. We got some sad news to get to the people, though. Yeah, man. We will not be here on Friday. Dang. Yes. A little, a little. I got some things that I need to do. And I will be unavailable at our normal time of 11. Kevin, so we will see you guys next week on Monday.

47:28Joe Haden:We will have plenty to talk about, especially if we got 12 draft picks. We're going to have an old bunch to talk about on Monday. So we hope you guys have a beautiful, beautiful weekend. We will be back here on Monday. Joe?

47:45James Harrison:Yo, I'm going to let y 'all know y 'all have a pleasant Valentine's Day. have a blessed weekend be safe and we will be back on Monday

47:54Joe Haden:what's Valentine's Day bro Valentine's Day man what day is that I think it's Friday Friday yep that's shoulders that's shoulders for me hey and we want to thank you guys for joining us on this episode of D-Boy and Joe please make sure you like subscribe and download where you get your podcast we'll be back here on Monday morning and we out

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