Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Terrion Arnold Arrested + Brandon Aiyuk Situation Takes New Turn

26 Jun 2026 · 43 min · 17 chapters

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In short

Tampa case involving Deebo Samuel (discussed as “Deebo”) and Terrion Arnold; Terrion Arnold allegedly orchestrated an armed robbery and kidnapping after believing people stole from his Airbnb. Hosts also debate Brandon Aiyuk’s situation with the 49ers and the NCAA’s new age-based eligibility model.

Guests/backgrounds

No podcast guests. Only hosts are Tony A.O. (The Real Report with Tony A.O. and Uncle Murda) and Uncle Murda’s segment voice; the episode features their conversation.

Key claims

Arnold allegedly coordinated via group chat, had two armed suspects hide in a closet, and victims were pistol-whipped for about two hours; the attack was live-streamed. Police say none of the three victims were involved with the Airbnb theft. Arnold is facing multiple first-degree felony counts, with potential life in prison; bail review is mentioned.

Notable examples

Victims were teenagers (two women lured them to a Tampa apartment). Aiyuk posted a closet-money video and tour info pointing to the Commanders website; hosts interpret it as a move tied to contract/immaturity concerns. NCAA: age-based eligibility gives five years over five seasons, ending redshirts/waivers.

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Terrion Arnold Arrested

4:59 to 9:03

Discussion on the arrest of Terrion Arnold for kidnapping and robbery.

“Then he did his own detective things, went to set these people up.”

Brandon Aiyuk Situation

9:03 to 14:03

Conversation about Brandon Aiyuk's recent behavior and actions.

“Like, they dropping the dime immediately.”

Iyuk's Controversial Video

14:03 to 16:47

Discussion about Brandon Aiyuk's video and its implications.

“Then the Ghost 2, then the Tommy, you know what I'm saying?”

The Rogue's Resilience

16:49 to 17:53

Casual banter about Nissan Rogue's capabilities and design.

“Rogue doesn't mess around and peep the space.”

The Rogue's Resilience

17:57 to 19:27

Casual banter about Nissan Rogue's capabilities and design.

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Consequences of Off-Field Actions

19:29 to 28:00

Discussion on how off-field behaviors impact NFL players' careers.

“You don't need to be sitting there flexing 10 bands throwing it on the ground.”

Credibility in Sports

28:00 to 28:49

A discussion on how quickly one can lose credibility in sports and the implications for athletes.

“It's going to have to be at a different rate.”

NCAA's New Eligibility Model

28:50 to 30:55

Analyzing the NCAA's new age-based eligibility model and its potential impact on college athletes.

“Limited exceptions will be granted for factors such as religious missions, military service, and maternity leave.”

Impacts of NIL and Eligibility Rules

30:56 to 33:19

Exploring how NIL deals and new eligibility rules could affect college athletes and competition.

“Like all these scholarships now, hell, it's already going to transfers.”

The Business of College Sports

33:20 to 35:24

A conversation on how college sports are evolving into a business and the implications for athletes.

“with finally now players honestly being able to get the paid for their name, image, and likeness, being able to go sign autographs, being able to do the normalcy things.”
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Chaos and Structure in NCAA

35:25 to 36:11

Discussing the chaotic environment of NCAA sports and the need for structure in eligibility.

“I mean, even right now, already, I guess as soon as this rule went through, it was.”

Chaos and Structure in NCAA

36:35 to 37:08

Discussing the chaotic environment of NCAA sports and the need for structure in eligibility.

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The Future of NCAA Lawsuits

38:46 to 42:00

Discussing recent lawsuits against the NCAA regarding the new eligibility rules and their impact.

“They had 15 basketball players, dude, that filed suit, suing the NCAA for the age model.”

Eligibility and College Football Experiences

42:00 to 48:01

Explore the discussion about college football eligibility rules and personal experiences.

“They was pulling down championships, man.”

LeBron James vs. Michael Jordan

48:01 to 52:30

Engage in a lively debate about LeBron James and Michael Jordan, their legacies, and fandom.

“You went to that man's closet, stole his shit?”

LeBron James vs. Michael Jordan

53:05 to 54:32

Engage in a lively debate about LeBron James and Michael Jordan, their legacies, and fandom.

“This is Tab Ramos from Inside American Soccer.”

LeBron James vs. Michael Jordan

55:10 to 56:00

Engage in a lively debate about LeBron James and Michael Jordan, their legacies, and fandom.

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Transcript

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3:54That boy got three victims over there. all of them teenagers well they still grown was it 17 18 no 18 19 like they according according to police it was two women who allegedly lured the victims to a Tampa apartment where the two suspects where two armed suspects hiding in the closet jumped out and held them at gunpoint beat them and robbed them what Bro, investigators said the attack was live streamed to Arnold. What are you doing? Who allegedly gave directions through a group chat before arriving at the apartment while the robbery was still underway. Police say the victims were later forced into their own vehicles at gunpoint before being released.

4:50So, bro.

4:52James Harrison:Did you? Did you? This happened? this happened a while ago and now they came to die but they got him locked up they trying not to let him out did you did you know about did you so you read the story February 4th so just the crazy part Debo about the situation is obviously when you get your Airbnb he said the Airbnb got robbed and he thought it was the driver his driver that they was using the whole time so then they went and set up the driver so he went like yeah went and told the police da da da so he went and did his own investigation and it's like, I understand when you lost$250 ,000 worth of jewelry and you're mad and you're upset, but don't go playing James Bond or detective or monk.

5:37James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? Then he did his own detective things, went to set these people up. When it robbed them, they had nothing to do with it. You know what I'm saying? You can't do that. So now the driver comes out, it's like, nah, I just got robbed. You know what I'm saying? At gunpoint, because they thinking, nah, where's the bread? so the whole situation Debo is actually crazy you know $250 ,000 they said in cash and valuables yes stolen yes

6:10how in the world Debo I it's crazy and you get the wrong ones though you done did this to the wrong people they're saying you got the wrong

6:23James Harrison:Because you felt like you set up and started doing your own investigation. Listen, law enforcement said none, none of the three victims were actually involved in the Arabian B. That, according to statements from Tampa police. Wow, dude. it could 18, 19 off in Tampa I guess

6:53how do you listen you up here playing gangster gangs man about 250 you tripping bro call the insurance company collect the insurance keep it moving I'm not saying you want to do something tell the police what happened let them figure it out they might have actually caught the right people they said they pistol whipped them boys for two hours straight they pistol whipped them for two hours on live stream bruh and you go do it on live stream but you texting and everything you don't understand about I'm back and I'm watching The Wire

7:37James Harrison:again right now back in the day 2000 Long story, Debo. Hold up, dude. On top of that, the two chicks, I guess, that they had to set him up, they testified in the kingdom. They already pled guilty to kidnapping, conspiracy, robbery with a firearm. Do you want to know why? She immediately, four years, she got four years already. Because the girls were the ones that he hit up, allegedly, to go over there and set him up to say like, yeah, we're going to have a little fun. Set up the driver to come over there and have a little grown man time with the girls. And then they was hiding in the closet. Popped out, boom, girl, the dudes with the guns was there.

8:25James Harrison:The girls FaceTime, like, what do you want from him? And he was like, they ain't saying it, they ain't got it. So that's when he ends up like this, nah, I'll be there in a minute. Pulls up to the crib. And then that's when you say he started doing the stuff to the dude in the spot, man, right there. So the girls, when they get caught by the feds, they start instantly, oh, no, he was the one that told us to set up the buddy. You know what I'm saying? They snitching. Instant. Instant. Yes. And then they got home. They going to do the day four. And now they tell him that he was the main one to do the whole stuff.

8:59What are you thinking? Even setting that up or trying to do that? Like, they dropping the dime immediately. Listen, Joe, Joe, Joe, it's very, it's very, it's very few, few people. If, if, if and I was going to do something like this, that I would do it with it. Damn sure ain't going to be a female of random anything. Like, it don't have to be like, I ain't doing it. First of all, first of all, we ain't doing it, Debo. Listen, Joe, if I'm going to do anything, I'm just going back, old me, old me. I'm going to go old me.

9:39James Harrison:This is what I'm saying. Old me doing this solo dolo by myself. Can't nobody tell on me but me. Nobody. The only planet said, yeah. Can't nobody tell on me but me. Can't nobody tell on you but you. Yeah, I'm watching. You got to watch. I mean, no, see, nope. gotta watch better shows you ain't watch The Wire you ain't watching Dexter like bro you facing a license now they facing a license they told him he ain't getting well they ain't giving they going back on the 20 what is the 29th or something like that to see if they go actually give him a bail he's like yeah they go review that because they saying they don't want him to get out because he may threaten witnesses and pay people to go do stuff and all that.

10:31Boy, they got you dead to rights because you done did everything you could. You pistol whipping and everything, man. You came over. You're like, no, the answer wasn't good enough. No, let me go on over here. Let me get some of this. And then I had the wrong ones. You ain't even get the ones that got it. They sitting back right now laughing, joking. Oh, yeah, we still got him for $250. Now he about to go sit in jail and maybe for the rest of his life. he is facing life

11:00James Harrison:a lot of charges multiple first degree felony counts of kidnapping, armed robbery dude, that could carry a maximum penalty of life in prison under Florida law bruh it's not a game man not a game, really out there no, first round draft pick bruh, and now you about to be sitting there doing life 14 million dollar contract you just bought you just gave up everything for$250 of something you could have reported on an insurance claim or to the police and just say you know what even if I ain't got the insurance claim hell they got me they got me I know you know for sure he ain't got that shit insured I know I know it's not it's not look I ain't got no earrings in right now you know why cause I lost them you know why cause they fake I lose stuff it ain't no need for me to even I tell Listen, man, if you see me with some jewelry on or anything like that and you want to rob me, go ahead and rob me.

12:01I promise you, you ain't doing nothing but practicing. I'm going to give it to you and let you keep going with it.

12:09James Harrison:I ain't even tripping. Yes, I feel you. I feel you, D-Bella. I'm in the same boat, man. Life is... But yours is real. I ain't going to lie to you. I've been thinking some crazy stuff. Before we got cool, I was thinking about robbing you myself. I ain't going to lie to you, Joe. That was before I was, you know what I'm saying? That was like 2017. I was thinking about Robby's DM when you first came to Stills. It wasn't nothing personal. That was just my mindset, my mentality. And you were brown. You came over all iced out. You know what I'm saying? You driving two, three different cars that look the same.

12:41They're the same car, just a different color.

12:43James Harrison:I wanted to take your car, too. But then I was, I mean, I go nice. I was chilling, though. I wasn't saying nothing. I wasn't trying to flex. I know you wasn't saying nothing, but I was looking at you. You were shining. Your ice was in my eyes. It was blinding me. I want to get that. I want that too. I like that too. I ain't going to wear it. I'm just going to sell it and get the money for it. I'm going to break it down. You really was trying to take my chain off my neck. I ain't going to lie, Joe. And then I saw you had two of the same cars. You said they ain't the same car, but they look like the same car to me.

13:15I'm like, he could afford to lose one. And I was just going to get that and chop that up, take it to the chop shop.

13:21James Harrison:One of them was a two-door, the Wraith, and one of them was a four-door, the ghost. I'm just saying, Joe. A Wraith, a ghost, a two-door, it didn't look like this. It looked like the same car to me with two doors and one had four doors. The front and the back. Why did you have a Wraith? I don't know what Wraith is. Wraith. W-R-A-I-T-H. Wraith. Wraith. Okay. Rose Royce Wraith. Rose Royce Ghost. Ghosts. Only Ghosts I know is on Power. Yeah, that's what, man, that's, they out there playing Ghosts. They can't be out, that's not, that is a, that is a TV show. And then they came with the, then the collab, then the Tyreek, you know what I'm saying?

14:03James Harrison:Then the Ghost 2, then the Tommy, you know what I'm saying? Then the Raisin Canaan. I ain't seen no Tommy. I'm telling you, everybody out here being. I ain't seen no Tommy get hooked. I ain't seen no Tommy get, you know what I mean? Like a Tommy. I ain't seen no Tommy get, you know what I'm saying? Tommy, he got his own joint too. Tommy. He got his own joint too, but I ain't seen nobody go out there and try and pull a Tommy yet, though. These fools want to play Ghost on. Got to be more careful. Hey, Joe, you got to be more careful. These boys out of they mind. Speaking of out of they mind, what is Iyuk doing, man?

14:38He posted a video announcing he's back on tour and that tickets to come see him can be found on the Washington Commander's website. He also posted this video of him in a closet, tossing a bunch of money on the ground as another reminder to the 49ers of the money he's made from them, I guess. Joe, peep game on the video.

15:11Yo, bruh, why is the closet empty? ain't no clothes in there or nothing hey he probably already packed up the movie that's what yeah he just bro he throwing all that money on the ground bro he throwing all that paper hey you think he just left it there and left no no definitely didn't leave that after the video so what was the point of throwing it on the ground if you ain't gonna just leave it For this. For this.

15:46James Harrison:For we're going to talk about it. For it's going to look. Oh, for us to talk about it. Everybody going to talk about it. You going to go pick your money up, Debo. He ain't leaving that. You seen that. That's his crib. He's moving out. Did it for the video. And right after that, they're scooping that money right back into that bag. Thousand percent. Yes, for sure. I mean, if you real boss like that, you just leave. No. That's not joking. No, sir. No, sir. I wouldn't. I mean Joe Joe can do it like that You know what I'm saying He got real Real Real millions Unlock the savings At Boost Mobile And save up to$600 a year I've been scouting These big carriers For a minute now And I've seen them Pull the same play A thousand times They promise you the world Then hit you with a price hike Right when the game gets tight But Boost Mobile Their$25 a month Unlimited wireless plan Is the most consistent Player on the floor No contracts No price hikes Unlock the savings today At BoostMobile.com slash unlock based on average annual single line payment of AT &T, Verizon, and T-Mobile customers compared to 12 months on the Boost Mobile unlimited wireless plan as of January 2026.

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19:29James Harrison:You don't need to be sitting there flexing 10 bands throwing it on the ground. It's just not. No, Joe, I ain't going to lie. That's a little bit. 10 bands, 20 bands, 30 bands, 100 bands. Joe, I think, I think, 100 bands. That look like. What are you going to do with the math? 100 bands, 250? I couldn't zoom in on it. I think it might have been about 250. 250, okay, 250 ,000. you got contracts out here for 60 million dollars you're not going to be in the league for the rest of your life these are just when i'm looking at it now where dude i don't know if he'll be in the league again this is not gonna get him out of there and into somewhere else i'm trying to say right now it's just getting to the point where it's like if you're in if you're in the national football league this is just not something that you would want this is just not attention that you want at all.

20:17James Harrison:It just seems like you're not mature. You know what I'm saying? It's giving off immaturity. Past mature. I understand. But I'm saying, are you all the way? Mental awareness week. Because when you start doing things like this, Debo, the thing is, when you're in the National Football League that you realize really quickly, they don't need you. They want you until they don't need you anymore. Until your ability is not not managing what is going on on the off the field. As soon as that happens, once you start making the$30 million contracts per year, that kind of starts to happen a little quicker.

20:54James Harrison:Like, okay, are you really worth the headache? So for me, any football team, they're trying to find reasons not to pay guys. Right. He think he's doing this just to the 49ers. You're doing it to the author. There's 31 other teams that are saying this. Yes, and that's when I'm looking at it now where it's like, I understand where you don't want to be there with the 49ers, but you're turning off so many other people and owners and teams at the same time. Understand that you want to go to the commanders. I'm hoping that end of the day, if it gets out of the situation, you get there, you go ball out.

21:27James Harrison:I want the best for you to be able to go play. But when you're from the outside being retired now, looking in on what's going on, it's like this. Oh, my gosh. This man is really jeopardizing the money that he had guaranteed with him. you could be doing things and talking to your agent in this ways where the team is doing things dirty to you. We know you want to get out of there, but there's certain ways you can do it to protect yourself. Still, still be getting paid your money because that's the way at the end of the day, we, we know it's not going to last forever. Making another 24 million that they voided.

21:58James Harrison:Like that doesn't hurt you right now. I'm just looking at like, damn, I know once a couple of years from now, that's going to, that's going to hurt. And then even if he goes to the commanders, Hopefully we get the contract. But if he doesn't, it has to sign for less just because of these actions of off the field stuff of nothing that had to do with his real play. It's like, man, you're jeopardizing so much that you don't really know because you're mad right now because you want to get out from the 49ers. But it's making you look kind of crazy. You know what I'm saying? Where we're like, brother, we're under your baller.

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22:29James Harrison:You're good. But the other teams are still looking at this. Hopefully the commanders that you have a relationship with them. So if they do release you, you're thinking, I'm just thinking, I'm just, he's thinking that that's probably going to be the team. But if it's not, you done turned off a lot of people, brother. And I'm like, dang, I don't know if he really understands that part where it's like the league, they don't need us. You know what I'm saying? We, they, they find reasons not to pass. And then all of a sudden you're just out and it's good because the league going to keep going. There's going to be drafts.

23:01James Harrison:There's going to be other players. They're going to be due. So that's why we always want people to get your bag, get paid, because we don't know how much longer you're going to be able to be in the league. And they're trying to find reasons to not get you paid. Joey Porter Jr. is staying out the way. He's doing everything right. And they're still trying to find a way to pay him$20 instead of where he's going to get$30. You know what I'm saying? Where is that? And there's nothing wrong with Joey Porter Jr. He's doing everything right. He's chilling. He's been model citizens. Not late. We hear about how he works.

23:29James Harrison:But he's already paid. Like, dude, you don't want to be there. I understand you don't want to be there, but you're being paid extremely well to not be there. I understand the concept, but what I don't think he understands is that what you're putting out there, what you're doing is you're getting paid. You got a bag, okay? But you no longer want to be there or whatever is going on has fallen apart. Now, if that's the case, you have 31 other teams looking at this, including the Washington commanders that are like, okay, if we do pick him up, who's to say that he doesn't get into this same position with us.

24:02And now he's doing it with us. I do not think that he understands the ramifications of what he's doing. And I don't even know, bro. I hate to say it. If he'll have a chance to make up from this, if he doesn't stop, like if he don't stop, never, it's not going to happen. He, he won't, he won't, he won't have a chance to get back into the list.

24:24James Harrison:The easiest way, the best way is like, he, I think that he thinks that this is, you got to kind of just disappear. Stay away from the social media. Stay away. All you got to do is stay away from it. Don't post nothing so nobody doesn't have any. You're giving people ammunition every day when we go look at my phone. I'm like, oh, it's like my brother. He's like, yo, you see the brand I-U? I'm like, yeah. Like, I hope he can be able to get out, but it's not looking good. He looks like. And you thinking. You thinking it's helping your cause? It's people that's talking to him. But it's like, you got guys that's talking to him.

24:56You got guys as close or whatever it may be that are actually talking to him, unless he got a whole bunch of yes men around him. But at some point, somebody that came up to you like, bro, come on, man, you got to stop, bro. It's not it's not it's not. You know how that is, you know, when you got. What about your agent? Like, yo, bro. Hey, like people are talking to him and saying, don't man, stop. You're going to you're going to you're going to push people away. Yeah. But you're still doing it. so what does that tell you? Like, it's nobody that is going to take a chance on that, man. Yeah. Like you are ruining your whole possibility of continuing your career.

25:38James Harrison:Like, yeah. We talk about the way the teams want their players to just how you answer media questions. Like this is when you're in the locker room, you're supposed to answer stuff a certain way, turn it off, not really supposed to be given things that are going to stir up the media. You know what I'm saying? So just being able to answer questions to the media on some chill, just being able to handle that is what teams are always like, conduct detrimentals. This is not showing that you can be not trusted. Trusted to be able to go out there and answer these questions in a professional way. Say you get to the commanders and you start not feeling good.

26:17James Harrison:You start not feeling the vibe. what's you not to do this again you know what i'm saying like it's just that in the mind because teams they have nothing to go on but what you show them and now when we're looking at this you got paid it's not like you weren't paid 30 million a year they said you weren't showing up to the rehab treatment facility like i understand but there's a professionalism that you have to have from a team that's paying me 30 million dollars i'm going to just handle it in a way of professionalism to get out. You know what I'm saying? And it just, it could be behind, but this is just so out in the open that it's like, there's ways you go about things and I would think like, your agent is not saying to do this.

26:55James Harrison:Like when Antonio, my man, like AB, these grown men, you're going to post what you want to post. So your agent can tell you about this, whatever, I'm going to post it. You know what I'm saying? Like you still, you're not with these people 24 hours a day. They understand these people are grown men. You go around them, they might chill, but they got plenty of time to do whatever they want and they grow. Like you, like you said, you making 30 million. You think anybody that picks you up or even if they're even wild enough to take a chance on you, you think they go give you anything that's close to 30 million?

27:33No, you're lucky. You're going to get minimum at best. Cause they're going to be like, yo, we need to see if this dude would actually go prove that he can actually be accountable and not go and do what he has already done. Like I just do it. I find it hard for anybody, for me to believe that anybody, any team, especially if I'm GM, I'm owner that I'm going to take a chance on, on him right now, especially after what I've seen over the course of the last, you know,

27:58James Harrison:couple months. It's going to have to be at a different rate. I'm like, man, we was, you, the price just went down. Like you think this makes people, you know what I'm saying? What you was making? Like, that's just the part that I don't think that they really understand. So, get back. Hopefully, you just got a lot of credibility that you got to build up. It takes one second to lose all the credibility that you build up. Doing stuff the right way, doing stuff the right way, doing stuff the right way. Then you do something. Turn. Now it's like, oh, man, hold on. We got to watch this dude. It takes a long – it takes one second to tear down 10 years of credibility.

28:36You continue to do it. Like, you know, one week is this, another week is this. Like, it's a continuation. It's like, yo, where do you go from here? I don't see anybody taking a chance on it, man. Pop over here, man. The NCAA Division I cabinet has unanimously voted to approve its age-based eligibility model. Okay. They say this will grant athletes five years of eligibility over five seasons, notably eliminating red shirt and waivers, According to the NCAA Division I, student-athletes will receive five years of eligibility if they enroll in college no later than the academic year following their 19th birthday.

29:20Limited exceptions will be granted for factors such as religious missions, military service, and maternity leave. Schools will have flexibility regarding student-athletes who have remaining eligibility after the current academic year. At the discretion of each school, these student-athletes can either have an age-based model applied to them or continue to follow the original NCAA eligibility rules. Joseph, do you think this is a good move by the NCAA?

29:53James Harrison:I don't know. What do you think about this one, Debo? I'm kind of... Um, so I think they had to do something, especially once they started, you know, paying players and allowing, you know, the NIL money. You know, it started to get ridiculous with guys getting six in that shit, even seven years of eligibility based on, you know, you know, becoming, you know, they was just becoming professional. student athletes, man, like college student athletes, you know, and using every position that they could to, you know, get stuff granted. And then once they started doing the court order, like going to court and getting court order eligibility extensions, like they was like, yo, we're done fighting these court battles about these rules.

30:38So we're, we're, we're, we're going to cut it clean and dry is this is what it is. This is the rules. There's no exceptions other than this exceptions tell college. they saying, yo, college for your 18, 17, 18, a 22, 23-year-old. Yeah, no, for sure. Like, what do you expect a 17 or 18-year-old kid to do when they get in there and they got to compete against a dude 23, 24, 25 years old, and he's coming out in his freshman year, or his sophomore, well, sorry, his senior year going into his, you know, his freshman year in college, and now he can't even get a scholarship, dude. Like all these scholarships now, hell, it's already going to transfers.

31:19Now you're letting a guy stay in there until he's damn near in his mid-30s. Like these kids ain't going to be able to compete against this, let alone be able to get a scholarship so that they can get free education. At least, you know, do that. So, I mean, like I said, I understand it. Like they had to do something. It's going to be the same thing when this NLI, how this money go. They go put rules on that too. Believe me, it's coming. like i said the downside is that guys who actually get injured and hurt and have legitimate reasons you know through that process they may not get that six year now they're what not may not they're not going to get you know what i'm saying so all that is out the window and then even for guys that are currently that you know they they ended up setting it to where um uh now you could do a two years of juco and then come out and go to college and still have all your eligibility well for guys who are currently doing that or have started to do that and are in that last year, now if they coming out and they getting into college and now they're 20, they lost a year already.

32:24So now they only get four. So it's going to hurt guys who actually thought they were getting a chance to get an extra two years so that they could beef up and be able to compete against these dudes that are coming in there at 20, 21, 22 years old so that they now leaving school 17, 18. now their first year in in in college is 20 now they're going to actually be hurt because of the rule so you know i think it's something that had to be done it will be the same thing that will happen with with the payments of of nli nli deals nil sorry nil deals and the same thing with how they're paying uh you know college uh athletes they're they're going to put a you know some type a stipend on it or a limit like they do a cat.

33:09James Harrison:I think this is good. There needs to be rules in place with the NCAA, Debo, like we said. With the NIL coming in, with it being so much money, with finally now players honestly being able to get the paid for their name, image, and likeness, being able to go sign autographs, being able to do the normalcy things. You know what I'm saying? Because it's been so messed up for so long in the NCAA. Now they really just got to start getting this. So when you said, too, with transfer portals, with rules with that, with NIL being able to set rules for that, with just everything, just trying to get a grip on the NCAA because it's low-key now kind of starting to turn into the Wild Wild West.

33:49James Harrison:And until you get rules, until you get certain things that where everybody like 27-year-olds just trying to come back into college because now they get NIL. So I'm going to go ahead and shoot my shot, see what I can do. No, college is a business now. It's also like it's like the miniature NBA. So now you're going to have real live, legitimate 19 year old. This is where you're between 19 to 24 year old. Everybody's going to be in there kind of the same age, figuring out what's going on. So I think just with everything with the NCAA stuff just has to be structured. So it's not like they can just start doing anything.

34:23James Harrison:So I think this is just the first thing where you can't be old as hell. You can't be having seven years. Just keep trying to reclass coming back. something that has to be structured with 19 years old. Okay. You come into 20, now you have four years. So then there's legitimate rules to now we can stick to this thing. And now these are the ages of the people that are in college. So I'm rocking with it because you have to get some type of control or everybody's just going to try to find loopholes and try to do stuff to get back to the game because the money's coming now. Now you can get paid for playing in college.

34:53James Harrison:It's a business. So when businesses are like, so that's why with the whole NCAA, with college basketball, with college football, with them knowing now the money is coming in. It's really a business. It's not, they're not student athletes. They're athletes, you know what I'm saying, that do go to the school. But understand, they are bringing real revenue to these schools. They're making real money. So there's going to be rules on a lot more of these things coming. So I'm just laying, like, this is just one of the first many things where the NCAA is just trying to get grip and grasp on what's going on.

35:25Yeah. Yeah. I mean, even right now, already, I guess as soon as this rule went through, it was.

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38:45Bahamar, life spectacular. What, Wednesday? They had 15 basketball players, dude, that filed suit, suing the NCAA for the age model. They filed suit in Cincinnati, dude. Like, already. they're trying to oh no you can't do no listen this is a rule now you suck like Chuck bro like and that's something else you heard I think it was one of the what was it paternal one of the what's his name the basketball dude basketball coach he's like yo he's like it's grown men he's like I got I got a team full of 22 23 year old grown men

39:23James Harrison:older than the Spurs right you know what I'm saying like it's literally a little a baby a baby NBA yeah it's yeah it's ridiculous man i don't i don't feel like i don't i don't feel like you know you're giving any of these other kids a chance or opportunity especially if you're letting these dudes play you know 25 20 20 24 26 years old whatever it is and like especially in basketball brother development from from you know being in football like it's it's out of control man like you're trying to get your 18 year old son to come in there and he's competing against a guy that's 23 and still got two more years left, what do you think he going to be able to do?

40:06And now that's why you had guys that are like, you know what, okay, this is the new model. I see what they're doing. They're allowing us to get these two years and these guys that took these two years now to go do JUCO or whatever it is, now they're going to be behind the eight ball and lose that year of eligibility because they thought they were switching over to what the new program was going to be and they're like, nah, brother, it ain't going to be in the new program. This is what we're going to do. it's the wild wild west over here we the wild wild west about to get shut down we putting laws in place we're gonna go make sure that this doesn't happen anymore because you got guys that are trying to be professional coders athletes like you if you go allow me to sit in there and get me you know six seven years eligibility and right now where they paying hell that could be that could be a whole$7,$15 million somewhere through there, if not more.

41:03You know what I'm saying? If not more. And when it comes down to it, they're trying to win college games. Just because you're a good or a great college athlete and you don't mean it's going to translate to you being one in the NFL. And a lot of these guys know that. They're like, you know what? I'm a great college quarterback. I'm a great college runner. I'm a great college. I know it's not going to translate. You know what? Let me sit in here a little bit longer, get what I can and go to the next level later. And if I don't make it, I did what I could here. I got what I got. I maxed out here.

41:37That way, if I don't make it here or they already know, like, yo, it's not, you know, you're not going to be a generational talent at the NFL level. You know, Tim Tebow, coldest quarterback in college football. But when he got to the pro, it didn't switch over. Yep. And if he was getting paid back then, if I was a man, ooh, wee. He got that bag. Ooh, wee. That bag bag, bruh. They was pulling down championships, man. Left, right. Brother. It can't get no better than that, man. It can't get no worse, however you want to look at it. The eligibility, damn, yeah. It's going to be good, though. Seven years, bro.

42:24That's too long. How do you get seven years? I understand, like, you know, being hurt. Again, you know, the COVID thing. I know they gave you a red shirt. It used to be five to play four. When I first came in, it was five to play four. It was five to play four. so you got to get a red shirt but you that gave your five to play four so you come in and say you wasn't ready they red shirt you you don't lose that year eligibility so now you now they're giving you five to play five that's still more than what it was when i came in hell i messed up mine and i only got i got three to play three i messed up dude i had a um i came in as a prop I messed up my prop.

43:17So then I had to get my stuff, my grades, and degree progress together for that next year. So I lost my red shirt and a year of eligibility. So I only got to play three years. Damn.

43:27James Harrison:I only played three years. I graduated early, went to Florida, freshman, sophomore, junior year. Out of there. Out of three, Debo. You got eligibility? I got eligibility. Don't jump on there and get you a year. You know, man. Y 'all need the help. Y 'all need the help. I'm finishing school. I'm going to finish school at Florida. Probably get a little online vibe. You already going to be on campus, man. What are you talking about? Go ahead. Jump on the campus. D-Bull. Jump on the team. I can't jump on that team, man. I'll go hurt the Gators, have us out there looking crazy. They need me. They got problems.

44:03James Harrison:Boy, we getting bombed up if I'm out there. Y 'all do got problems, man. Y 'all trying. No, man. We about to get back, right? Listen, bro. I'm telling you right now. Tim Tebow would have been able to get that NIL. Tebow would have made$10 million a year back in the day for show, at least. Oh, easy. My man was out there pushing the Ford Taurus. 97 Ford Taurus. Tebow was out there, man, just as no drinking. Is that heavier than a ghost? No, it was light. It was light. Or a rain joint. Four doors, though. Look, we got the same thing. got him from point A to point B. I was just asking the question.

44:47You know what I'm saying? I was just wondering if it was, I don't know what the weight is on a Wraith or a post. I don't look at the LBS. You don't look at that. You don't even worry about how much it weighs.

45:00James Harrison:You don't even look at the number. That's what they say. Hey, listen, if you got to ask how much of the cost you can afford, you'll just say, I want a white one and a black one. That's nice. Let me take those twice. See? Yes. Yeah, see? See, y 'all see Joe coming through? That's nice. That's nice. Twice. Yeah, yeah, Joe. Okay, yeah. I'm trying to tell y 'all, man. I'm trying to tell y 'all, man. He can buy two cars, but he can't get no internet. Hey, you see my Wi-Fi was on point today. What did you do? Man, I called them folks, man. I called them folks up at us. What'd they do? Did they come out?

45:39James Harrison:What'd they say? They ain't came out, but they're going to be out here. They're going to be out here today after. Oh, today after? Did they tell you just unplug it from the wall and plug it back in? They told me to unplug it and then plug it. Wait 30 seconds and then plug it back in. Wait until we count to 30. I said, Mississippi? She was like, yeah. I'm like, dang. All right, bet.

46:05Listen, Joe, that mansion you got with all them people over there, man. You can't have 30 people on the Wi-Fi at the same time when we did the show. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You got to upgrade your signal. You got to upgrade your service, Joe.

46:19James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? All that great service you got over there. You know what I'm saying? Tank. Tell him. Listen. I'm trying to tell you, Joe. I ain't had to do nothing. All I did was go ahead and just said, you know what? Y 'all say it don't work right. But I know the numbers may not show it. Like me, Joe. My numbers didn't show it. They said he's short. They say he's slow. They said, uh-uh. I said, put me on the field and watch me work. That's what you did. That's what I did with this internet. I said, hey, hey, y 'all talking about it's slow. It ain't going to work. Hey, my internet like me, put it on there and let it work.

46:58James Harrison:See, that's a good man. And what they say, once they seen it in action, they said, ooh, man. They said, your view is clearer than Joe's view. We don't know how, because my internet, like me, it works. Man, D-Bow. You know? I'm just telling you. Listen to this. Did you see Giannis go to the Heat? Okay? Of course. And that's why I'm repping my Heat jersey right now, Braun, because it's not about, it's not, it's really about Braun still. So you switch it home. No, no, no, no, no, no. No, it's always Bron. It's always Bron no matter what. It's Bron. Hold on. Just for you right now, Devo. Let me show you.

47:39James Harrison:It's Bron when he's in the All-Star game. It's Bron when he's in the Olympics. It's Bron in the All-Star game in LA. Okay. Okay. It's Bron in the land. You know what I'm saying? Snake skin, Bron. It's Bron. It's Bron. It's Bron. Always in the land. You know what I'm saying? It's Bron. It's Bron. Rookie Bron. Okay. God, dog, what you doing? You went to that man's closet, stole his shit? Other Rookie Bron. And it's... Oh, all that motherfucker. And then it's McDonald's All-American High School Bron. Oh, you went and bought all that shit, John. So just letting you know. Just letting you know it's not about the heat.

48:32James Harrison:Let me see the tag on the inside of that one. It's not about the heat. It's about LeBron James. So when I tell you this, I tell you this. Man, if I had some money, I'd go get me some Jordan stuff too. If I had some. It's about LeBron James. So I say that to say, LeBron James. LeBron James. You can stay in L.A. if you want to. You can go to Cleveland if you want to. You can go to Miami if you want to. Wherever you go, Jody's going. That's all I know. That's all I know. That's the damn show. Because I'm following Braun since high school till now. Braun has been brawning. Like the Browns be Brown.

49:25James Harrison:Braun is the good Braun. The Browns beat Browning and Brown beat Browning. They're two opposites. They're two opposites. And winning the most points of all time. As good as LeBron is, that's how terrible the Browns are. LeBron is always Browning. You out here, don't we ever say Brown is Browning. I said Brown is. The Browns need to start Browning. Uh-uh, uh-uh. Listen, as good as LeBron is for Browning, the Browns are terrible for browning. That's the level of consistency. But in two opposite spots. My Browns? My Browns are going to start browning. And wait till it happens. No, it's not. Oh, my goodness.

50:09James Harrison:Browns start browning. I get in touch. Oh, my goodness. But Browns start browning. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Stop it. Yeah, Deebo. I'm telling you, it's going to happen. So it's not even about the heat. You talking about me switching sides. I love basketball. But I tell you, Bron James and Michael Jordan, Michael Jordan still rocking. But I'm telling you, Bron James is still playing basketball right now. Hey, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to tell Jordan to take away your damn shoes. I'm calling Michael Jordan. Everybody put Michael Jordan in here. Text him. Put him in the stream.

50:47and tell him, Jordan, Joe Hayden, that Jordan supposed to be representative for your brand is over here talking about you ain't shit.

50:57James Harrison:I ain't never said that. Don't put a word in my mouth like that by MJ. Michael Jordan, I did never say that. He's tripping. Run the tape back and y 'all put some AI in there on his voice. I don't never say that. You mess up my Jordan. I got Jordan tatted. I got Jordan Tatted. Michael Jordan. Right here. MJ. For the brand. Come on, man. MJ know what it is on this side. MJ know what it is on this side. But we're talking about LeBron. Like I said. I'm all with LeBron James, a.k.a. Rowley Rowley. West Side City. Come on, you know what time? Yes. LeBron James. All that. All that. So I'm just trying to figure out what...

51:39James Harrison:I'm just trying to figure out... Ain't no way LeBron's going to be Brown. They go be Brown. They go be Brown. They go be Brown. They go be Brown. They go to the heat again for the L.O. I'm right back in South Beach. Turn. Ooh. Ooh. It was turn in Miami for those four years, bro. I was sad. Hey, man, listen. Brown got to go back to Cleveland. He got to finish it where he started off. Yeah, I'm here for all. Definitely. Definitely. But this one's saying, I'm, Bron James is in control. Wherever you go, Bron, wherever you go, I'm rocking with the land. I want you to go to Cleveland. That'd be a fairytale end.

52:19Get one more on the way out. Go to the crib. Right there where you started at. Go back to the land on the way out.

52:23James Harrison:At the crib. If you don't feel like going to the way, on the land on the way out, my man, I'm going wherever we going, Bron, you just let me know. You just let me know. Straight up. That's how I'm rocking. Bron still suck. Hey, ladies and gentlemen, we like to, Thank you for joining us on this episode of D-Bo and Joe. Please make sure you like, subscribe, and download where you get your show. Yo, come on, man. We will see you guys on Monday. Appreciate the love. Same time, same place. Let's get it. And we out.

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