Deebo and Joe - Part 2: Tom Brady considered unretiring + Avril Reese viral video + Barber does his client Dirty

27 Mar 2026 · 33 min · 12 chapters

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In short

Deebo and Joe discuss Tom Brady’s reported second unretirement attempt being blocked by the NFL, then pivot to NFL training talk, a viral running-back pro-day video critique, and a shocking “barber did his client dirty” hairline clip.

Guests/backgrounds

No formal guests are introduced; the episode is hosted by Deebo and Joe. They reference NFL players and prospects (e.g., Jeremiah Love, Arvell Reese) and compare pro-day drills.

Key claims

  • Brady inquired about unretiring again; the league rebuffed him, citing complications with his ownership/media roles.
  • A GM would prefer players who “stay to the script” (work, don’t go out much), reducing risk of off-field trouble.
  • The viral pro-day video of Arvell Reese looks less explosive than other reps, possibly due to coaching/directive or just one rep being shown.
  • The barber clip is so extreme it must be satire/skit (or at least “foul”).

Notable examples

  • Tebow as a “practice what you preach” teammate; TJ Watt, Minka Fitzpatrick, Najee Harris as similar examples.
  • Pro-day drill comparisons to a University of Miami player.
  • Dinner/nightlife routines (Cleveland clubs Rumor/Barley House; Pittsburgh Eddie V’s).

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Chapters

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Tom Brady's Retirement Thoughts

3:07 to 4:51

Hosts discuss Tom Brady's rumored consideration of unretirement and league politics.

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NFL Contracts and League Politics

4:51 to 7:20

In-depth discussion about the complexities of NFL contracts and player movement.

“we got issues we got a bad position with you right now anyway with you being an owner doing media and everything else.”

Deebo's Workout and Future Plans

7:20 to 10:06

Deebo shares his current fitness and ambition to possibly return to the field.

“That's a big difference in playing weight.”

The Importance of Player Focus

10:06 to 14:01

Discussion on the mindset of NFL players and the importance of dedication.

“If you can't believe in yourself, then who can you believe in?”

The Impact of Lifestyle on Performance

14:01 to 15:17

Explore how players' off-field lifestyles affect team dynamics.

“They can still come in and perform, but if you do have a legitimate guy that's like, zero interest in it, doesn't really go out, doesn't really do that.”

Post-Game Rituals and Dining Preferences

18:31 to 26:32

Hear about the guests' unique post-game dining and relaxation habits.

“we've got you covered on the podcast, Flagrant and Funny.”

Analysis of Arvell Reese's Viral Pro Day Video

26:32 to 28:00

Dive into the analysis of a viral video from a pro day drill and its implications.

“Your running back coach, he loving that.”

Analyzing the Workout Drill Video

28:00 to 29:29

The hosts discuss perceptions of a workout drill video and its implications.

“It just looks like that wasn't his best rep.”

Social Media Reactions to Athletes

29:30 to 30:40

The hosts reflect on how social media can distort public perception of athletes.

“I'm trying to figure out what was going on, and I'm looking at the video.”

The Barber Incident

30:41 to 30:55

The hosts react to a shocking video of a barber's haircut mishap.

“Look what this barber did to this man's head, bro.”
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Discussion on Hair and Barber Fails

35:39 to 42:01

The hosts share humorous anecdotes and opinions about haircuts and barbers.

“Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.”

Barber's Shocking Hairline Cut

42:01 to 46:31

Discussion about a barber's poor haircut decision leading to humorous takes.

“That's what I'm telling you right there.”
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Transcript

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3:07Stuff You Should Know Think Spring playlist on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Listen, man, Tom Brady, I guess he played his last season.

3:18James Harrison:What was that, 22?

3:22James Harrison:I guess he thought about coming out of retirement. He revealed that he explored the possibility of unretiring a second time but was rebuffed by the league when he breached, I guess, the broach, the, the, when he went for the subject, y 'all need to use some other fucking words. He went and talk to him about the subject. Don't give me words. I don't damn understand. Okay. And, um, he said, he said, I actually inquired. They didn't like the idea very much. So I'm going to leave it at that. We explore a lot of different things and I'm very happy. I'm very happy. Lee retired. let's just say that too.

4:11James Harrison:What he's saying? What he's saying, Joe? I'm going to tell you what he's saying. He's saying he wanted to go back. And I think he was still under contract with the Bucs anyway. So the first thing that got to happen is they got to activate him, and then they got to trade him, or they got to release him from his rights under that contract, if he wasn't going to play for them. and then after that you still have to go and be reinstated by the league as well so he probably saying the league was like yeah that's what he said the league wasn't like yeah you ain't you ain't coming back baby you know you got a lot of things going on right now you know so we got issues we got a bad position with you right now anyway with you being an owner doing media and everything else.

4:58James Harrison:You know, we ain't about to go ahead and let you do all that media on and be playing for another team. You know, I don't know. I don't know. What do you think, Joe? You hitting it on the head. Like, Tom Brady, we already got the ownership going on with the broadcasting. And then it's just too many cahoots going on. You know what I'm saying? Like, you got your foot in everything. So the league is like, no. They bending it, dude. They bending it. They already been in the rules. They like, do you just want to keep letting us be exposed for how much we just rock with you, Tom Brady? Like, we rock with you so hard, you could come back and still own the team, and then you have to stop the announcing.

5:39James Harrison:But I'm like, Tom, you're chilling. You're at$35 million a year announcing, being part owner of the Raiders. Like, I don't know. He's just doing a little bit. It's a lot. And he's getting – Tom Brady, he's older. Like, he was already old. and then taking the years off, chilling to the body. Phillip Rivers, he see – I'm thinking everybody's looking around. Flacco, Tom Brady, you see Phillip Rivers come off the gym, just off the couch trying to sling the ball in a professional football game. That was nuts to me. He did good and made it, you know. He couldn't throw it as far, but when you see somebody else doing it – He couldn't throw it as far.

6:16James Harrison:That thing wasn't coming out as fast. I was like, whoo. Yeah, I was glad he made it out, man. Yes, sir. alive. Man, that man wanted to unretire a second time. You know what? I'm going to go and I'm going to see I'm going to call him up, see what the process is and see if I can see if I can unretire a second time. Debo, you don't mean it. You don't mean it. I'm about to go and see. You don't mean it. Dude, I retired one time. I came back. I might I retired again. I might have to make a double. I just want to see what the process is. I'm just telling you, D-Bo, all that, I'm telling you, looks can be deceiving.

6:58James Harrison:Wait until you get out there and get to running around, putting those pads, getting that weight on you. It's going to be different. You look good. I saw you doing arms, up curling. Hey, the weight back to playing weight, Joe. You're not playing weight. Yes, I am. What was the playing weight? 258, 260? Playing weight was anywhere between 242 and 265. Well, I've been as heavy as 282. 286. I take it back. 286. That's a big difference in playing weight. The Super Bowl we won. I was 286. When you got older, did you start going down? Because 286 to 248 is a big... You know, that was a long season. So when I first came in, I was 242.

7:40James Harrison:My best playing weight was probably between 255, 265. I'm 248, almost 250 right now. So I'm there. I'm there. Joe and I got room to go ahead and stack something back on. You know, I need to start seeing your lateral movement. You know what I'm saying? Your burst, your speed, because you look good. I'm playing weight right now. I'm going to get all that. I'm going to get all that for you, man. I need to get footage of you because I'm seeing you lifting. I'm seeing that. I need to see you actively moving. and then I'll know. Bruh, listen, I told you what my, listen man, I told you what my times, I'm going to do it, I'm going to do it.

8:26James Harrison:Devo, you keep telling me them times from back in the day, you are 47 years old. Listen, I'm going to AZ, I'm going to AZ, taking my boys and all that, right? So come, come, come, come mid-July, end of July, I'm going to go ahead and video my pro day and have it ready to go. Please tell me exactly when you're going to do it. I ain't going to say I'm still running F03. I ain't going to say that. I'm pulling up. I'm pulling up. I want to see it with my own, too. I'm going to record it. Myself. Okay. Yeah, for sure. That's no problem. Because you know who won't be participating. I ain't running no less than a F05, though.

9:05James Harrison:You know who won't be participating? This guy. Right here. Hey, Joe, it's okay. I got pinched. I keep telling you about my head. All you got to do is make sure your trigger finger right. Matter of fact, I ain't going to let you do that. I'm going to do digital. I'm going to bring the digital. I'm going to bring the electric time. And I'm going to make sure everything like it would be at the combine. Yeah. Yeah. I need all of that. Oh, that's going to be hilarious. And when you see these numbers. I know. Let me tell you something. You might break. One thing, you might break the bench record. But after that, I'm here for all of that.

9:38James Harrison:I'm here for all of the three cone. I'm here for all of the vertical. I'm here for all of the 40. I need to see this athleticism, Debo. all of it. Listen, you go see it. By then, I'm going to be 48. You go see it at 48. Light and right. All right. I turned 48 in May, and I'm going to be doing it then at 48. I believe in you, though. I want to see this. I know. I believe in you. Man. I believe in you more than I believe in myself doing it. Hey, listen. If you can't believe in yourself, then who can you believe in? Me. You? You? Me? I believe in my brother Debo because yes that's for sure. Hey you got belief for both of us.

10:29James Harrison:You got your Lord to save the first then you got Debo. You know it. You know it. You know it. Debo you funny. Notre Dame running back Jeremiah Love spoke to NFL teams and said why they should draft him. Listen to this, brother. I'm a pretty simple guy. You draft me, I'm not doing too much of nothing other than football. Outside of football, I'll go out here and there. I'll go out here and there. But I'm the type of guy, my perfect day after a game, going home, play video games, talk to whoever I want to talk to, and watch anime. So I'm a simple guy. You're going to get strictly a football player with me, which is what you want.

11:14James Harrison:It's going to be my job. So I'm going to take it very seriously, and I'm going to give you my all, and I'm not going to cause you no type of trouble. Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. What's up, brother? Hey, look here, baby. I like what he's saying, Joe. I like what he's saying because what he need to realize, if you fraggle rocking, if any of these GMs or teams are worth a grain of salt, they're going to go ahead and check into this and make sure you ain't just saying this and it's true now. I'm just talking. Okay. it, Joe? Yeah, yeah. If it's true, Joe, put your GM hat on, Joe. What you gonna do, Joe? Joe, what you feeling?

11:58James Harrison:What's going through your head, Joe? This is what I'm saying. Obviously, if I'm a GM, I'm gonna know because Tim Tebow was a teammate of mine in college and he practiced exactly what he preached. All of the Christians, he didn't drink, he didn't smoke, he didn't curse. He didn't go out. Tebow was a... Man, I love Tebow. Great Christian man. Oh, yeah. Good dude. My best teammates of my life. Just really solid, solid. Grand on earth. So, anybody ever talks about Tebow of like, how was Tebow? I'm like, it's the best dude. Hardest worker. Worked hard. Did all of that. Me. Same thing. I'm soil to earth, but I would go outside.

12:36James Harrison:I would go party when I was younger in college. I would go out, have a good time. When you stopped when you was young. No, no. I mean, when I was a rookie in Cleveland until I got married, I got locked in. Me and Moo, probably my second, third year in the league. I did it for about two years in the league. I had a good time. Just, you know, nothing crazy. Innocent fun. I was out there balling, still performing. But I'm looking at it. You have players like Tebow. You have players like Najee Harris, TJ Watt, Minka Fitzpatrick. That if it's real, it's real. They really don't have too many other interests besides football.

13:10James Harrison:that like, not like going out is a bad thing, but they really just don't hang out. You know what I'm saying? And for GMs, that is a really, really good thing because the main thing is the main thing. The main thing is football, making sure that you're taking care of yourself. You're not going out. Nothing happens good after those hours. So that's why you get it out of your system like first two years in the league and you understand it's a business. Like nothing, you out there having a good time. You can go to dinners, you can do that stuff, but nighttime is not for, most of the good players are asleep.

13:42James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? So during the season, if you really do have these dudes that are staying to the script, making sure that they're taking care of their bodies, and the earlier that you learn that, where after your rookie season, where you're coming in, TJ, Minkus, these dudes come in like that. They come in, work first, you know what I'm saying? No bull. Some dudes come in, like to flash, like to go out, like to have a good time. And that's not a bad thing. They can still come in and perform, but if you do have a legitimate guy that's like, zero interest in it, doesn't really go out, doesn't really do that.

14:11James Harrison:And that's a guy that, you know what I'm saying, that would kind of help your team because it just kind of eliminates that extra, eliminates the chance of him going out, being out at the wrong time. Something could happen. And maybe not because of him, but being the target, being able to be dudes are looking at you in that city. You might not want no trouble, but trouble just happens to follow you because you just in the spot. Everybody's looking at you. Everybody wants to be around you. So not saying that going out is a bad thing, but sometimes it could just put you in a situation to be targeted and you're not looking for trouble, but a couple could just come and find you.

14:40James Harrison:So the younger dudes that if they don't end up wanting to be out in the city playing video games, anime, might sound corny, but to GMs, oh, I love this guy. And if it's genuine, boom, be you. Come in here, do your anime, watch your cars, you know what I'm saying? Boom, you know that your player is chilling and you know when he's at the facility, everything is everything. So I could see why. If that is him and GMs would be like, okay, boom, that's smooth. I know I can kind of exit that out. But guys that do go out, it's just another little layer. It may not be bad, you know what I'm saying? But it's just a thing that if you don't do it, it's a check.

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20:45James Harrison:Yeah, like Coach LeBeau, he would tell us, he'd say, look, there ain't no prize in the bottom of that bottle now. So be in a rush to get to the bottom of it, okay? Hey, have you a good time, but don't go too hard now. No, for sure, everything in moderation, baby. No question, especially after the game. What was your day like after a game, like a 1 o 'clock game versus a 4 versus an 8? How was you moving after the games? One o 'clock games, man, I was moving because I always had family always. Let's say home games. Family would always come out, and we would go to dinner after the game, and I would always like to watch the other games.

21:24James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? So dinner, probably at an XO, a little steakhouse, man. Me, the family, eat, chill, vibe. And after that, probably go Sunday, probably depending on if we won or lost. If we won, might be linking up with the boys. We might hit up a little spa at the nighttime, have a good little vibe. Because we was in Cleveland. It was only two places that we went. We went to Barley House or we went to Rumor. It was two clubs. Knew the owners, knew the security, knew everybody. And it was always good energy, good vibes. We're coming here to listen to good music and just have a good time with our boys.

21:56James Harrison:Everybody get out of here safely. So that was my thing. Go kick it with the family. Have a good dinner. Have a good vibe. And hopefully we won the game and me and the boys meet up either at Rumor or Barley and just kick it. Have a good time, bro. That was my go-to game winner. Yes. Now I'm at dinner, watch some games, and my boy's going to go politic. Okay. Okay. I like it. What about you? I'm a little different. You know what I'm saying? One o 'clock game, yeah, we go eat, but we're going to Fridays. We're going to Applebee's. You know, we ain't got to like that, Joe. Ain't got to like that, Joe.

22:31James Harrison:See, there you go. There you go. You could eat good, D-Bo. Look, it's a meal. It's a meal. It's nothing crazy. You can go. I'm just telling you, man. I'm just telling you. I ain't joking. Like I said, 4 o 'clock game. There's nothing wrong with Applebee's. There's nothing wrong with Applebee's. 4 o 'clock game, I might stop. Same thing. Get something to eat. Now, 8 o 'clock game, just going home, lay it down, go to sleep. I'm pounding water, though. I'm trying to get water in me just to try and rehydrate. Now, if it's like one of those four 8 o 'clock games that's away, it's a little different.

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23:02James Harrison:I may land at 3, 4 o 'clock in the morning. I'm going straight to the gym, hit the gym, then get done after that. Wow. And, you know, chilled in. So I just, I just, it depends on the timing, where we're at, if it was home, away. But, you know, we ain't, listen, we ain't going. I mean, if I was feeling good, I was feeling good. And I was feeling, you know, like we might go to Longhorn, you know? Mm. Mm. See, now, when I was in Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh, after the games, every time, Eddie V's. Every time. See, I ain't, bro, I ain't going to lie to you. I don't even think I ever ate an Eddie V's. See, you're, Debo, why you acting like that?

23:47James Harrison:I ain't lying, Joe. You be acting like, you act, I don't want to say cheap, but you act like, you act cheap sometimes. Like, you can't eat a skin. I ain't got it, Joe. You do got it. Matter of fact, Debo, you're lying because when we go out to eat, you're the one ordering the Caymus. Yeah, let me get that Caymus. What about that? What about that? I do not drink Caymus. I do not drink Caymus. What did you order? You ordered a bottle of wine. You ordered something. What did you order? Silver oak? You ordered something. No, I did not. I did not. I do not drink Caymus. I drink Caymus Special Select.

24:16James Harrison:Special Select. That's what I'm saying. It's the type of Caymus. You said Caymus. That is beneath me. You talking about I'm bougie. I ain't spend money. You talking about me. And you talking about the type of camels. Oh, no, it's Special Select camels. Look at this, man. You be lying to the people. I ain't lying, dog. Call them in the app. Hey, hey. Call them in the app. Listen, real talk. Go to the front. It ain't even there no more. They tore it down. But matter of fact, Risa. Ask Risa. She used to come in for the game. Fridays, real talk. Deep. We 10, 15, 20 deep. Man, Pittsburgh Eddie V's, man.

24:55James Harrison:That joint slaps. And you have not been, if you ain't been for real. Bro, where is it at? Where is it at before I start? It's downtown. It's right next to the hotel. Literally. I take it back. I went there for a rookie dinner one time. Okay. Because I wasn't paying. What's that hotel called? The Penn Williams? The William Penn? Is that the William Penn? It's next to the William Penn. because when I first got there. It's next to the one. I ain't never been there then, I don't think, for real. I walked to it. I thought you was talking about the one that was like across from the, the one downtown, like by the substation or something.

25:33James Harrison:It's downtown. No, the one from the old, well, you don't know about the old hotel. What's wrong about the old hotel? I think that's the, next to the old hotel. Dude, I don't think I ever been to Eddie V's then. See you out. I got to take it. That's what we going when we come, when I come back. Hot. What's the name of the one place? I've been to Hyde Park. You've been to Hyde Park. You've been to Off the Hook. Off the Hook. And then you've been to the one of the Napa Prime. Morton's. Roof Fresh. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. That was all rookie dinners.

26:10James Harrison:Deebo, shut up, bro. You got money. You acting like you ain't got it. This man is money. Oh, my goodness, bro. Nah, but I say all that to say that good old running back staying out the way, that's what I'm talking about. Yeah, all the way down. Loving that. Loving that. They love that. Head coach, everybody loving that. Your running back coach, he loving that. Mm-hmm. They say, what's the dude's name? Old State Reese? Arvell Reese? Yeah, Arvell Reese. I guess they're saying he went viral on social media. They're saying the social media team did him dirty. Look at the video, bro. I don't... Let me see.

27:01Oh.

27:03James Harrison:What's dirty? Can you replay that? Am I missing something?

27:13James Harrison:It's just they trying to... Once you looked at the dude, I looked at it first and kind of didn't really know what was going on, how bad, not how bad, but what everybody was looking at and then until you see like other dudes running it and it's just the bend, Debo. You saw he was kind of like chopping around the things. It just didn't look too explosive. Do you know what I'm saying? The other guys doing it? I saw the dude from the University of Miami, probably the same position, but he just... Were they doing it at the same place? No, no. That was his pro day. And then I looked at video of the dude doing it at the University of Miami's pro day.

27:55James Harrison:And it just looked not as explosive. Like, when you really kind of sit back and look at another one, Debo, of the same drill on a pro day and see just the bend, how low they're getting coming around that corner, how explosive they're coming up out of it. You know what I'm saying? It just looks like that wasn't his best rep. He looked like, you know what I'm saying? Like, he was just kind of, like, he was kind of warming up a little bit. Like he wasn't really like exploding, taking it as serious. So when the other dudes did it, it just looked like, why would you post that and be like, oh, no, social media.

28:24James Harrison:Like, look at this rep. Like, if you're going to post a rep, post him going hard, like getting bent, like making that drill look good. Like that didn't look as good if you were to look at that one and then look at another linebacker doing that same drill. You know what I'm saying? So that's why I think people were saying it. but at first when I first looked at it if you just look at it off the rip I'm like okay you know I'm saying it didn't I didn't see nothing it didn't look too outrageous but then when I saw other people just the the way they're supposed to be done I thought he's just supposed to run around it you know I'm saying chop a little bit yeah but see that's what I'm saying like you you looking at somebody else's drill he being worked out by somebody else you got one rep you ain't seen other ones I don't know I think they trying to make a little bit too much of this because you don't know what he was told by the dude who was running the drill as far as how he wanted him to cut around the things if he wanted him touching the bags rubbing up against the bag not touching the bags y 'all don't know what the whole directive of what he was told to do in this drill so to go over the top and just assume that he was told to do what everybody else did I don't know about that because he did sprint off out on the last one and you know hit the bag so who knows like let me see three more other takes and then I will agree or disagree on the you know the movement stiffness the no bend whatever they want to call it gotcha lack of so like no I'm with you you're looking at one rep I like the way I like the open mind in this Debo for sure because I'm saying you never know how we were supposed to do it were you not supposed to be able to touch the floor they want you kind of avoid the bags you know because I don't know if you running if they were doing the drill together, you know what I'm saying, then you could kind of tell if somebody doing the same drill in the same line as them, you never know what the coaching of this drill is.

30:15James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? Yeah, for sure. For sure. I ain't even lied to you. I'm trying to figure out what was going on, and I'm looking at the video. I'm like, what is they talking about? Like, are they talking about the dude in the back with his shirt off? I'm like. No, they was talking about Buddy running around. Yeah, so. When I first looked, I didn't notice it. I didn't know what was going on. but then, I don't know. Social media, baby. That's just how it is. Everybody got a little... Matter of fact, bro. What's up? Bro. Look what this barber did to this man's head, bro. Bro.

30:58James Harrison:Hold up. You see this man? Look. Oh, my God. See, no. See, that's what I'm... Joke.

31:07James Harrison:That's... Honestly, that's not okay. That's foul.

31:19James Harrison:Somebody, you can't... He's pushing that man back so bad. Bro, this gotta be a skit. It's gotta be. Bro, that... No.

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32:42In 2023, former Bachelor star Clayton Eckerd found himself at the center of a paternity scandal. The family court hearings that followed revealed glaring inconsistencies in her story. This began a years-long court battle to prove the truth. You doctored this particular test twice, Ms. Owens, correct? I doctored the test once. It took an army of internet detectives to crack the case. I wanted people to be able to see what their tax dollars were being used for. Sunlight's the greatest disinfectant. They would uncover a disturbing pattern. Two more men who'd been through the same thing. Greg Gillespie and Michael Maricini.

33:18My mind was blown. I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trap. Laura, Scottsdale Police. As the season continues, Laura Owens finally faces consequences. Ladies and gentlemen, breaking news at Americopa County as Laura Owens has been indicted on fraud charges. This isn't over until justice is served in Arizona. Listen to Love Trapped podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Why hasn't a woman formally participated in a Formula One race weekend in over a decade? Think about how many skills they have to develop at such a young age. What can we learn from all of the new F1 romance novels suddenly popping up every year?

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34:48If you're trying to keep up with everything happening on and off the court, We've got you covered on the podcast, Flagrant and Funny. You look at the top four number one seeds. What do you think UCLA is going to do? Break down that for me, my friend. Obviously, UConn is the overwhelming favorite in this tournament. But I'll be honest, I think people are kind of sleeping on Texas. Experts are suggesting that UCLA is the number one challenger to UConn and that right after that would be Texas. S &C is so deep and so thick in just about everything. It really is annoying. So it's UCLA, Texas, South Carolina, LSU.

35:24Only ones that could possibly upset UConn. On Flagrant and Funny, we're giving our unfiltered takes on the biggest moments, the conversations everyone's having. So whether your bracket is busted or you just want the latest on the tournament, we got you. Listen to Flagrant and Funny with Keri Champion and Jamel Hill on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.

35:51James Harrison:10-10 shots fired, City Hall building. A silver.40 caliber handgun was recovered at the scene. From iHeart Podcasts and Best Case Studios, this is Rorschach, Murder at City Hall. How could this have happened at City Hall? Somebody tell me that. July 2003, Councilman James E. Davis arrives at New York City Hall with a guest. Both men are carrying concealed weapons. And in less than 30 minutes, both of them will be dead.

36:27Everybody in the chambers docks. A shocking public murder.

36:31James Harrison:I scream, get down, get down. Those are shots. Those are shots. Get down. A charismatic politician. You know, he just bent the rules all the time. I still have a weapon and I could shoot you. And an outsider with a secret. He alleged he was a victim of blackmail. That may or may not have been political. That may have been about sex. Listen to Rorschach, Murder at City Hall, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

37:04Like, look, Joe.

37:06James Harrison:Like, run that back again. Look how far he cut into his head line. Debo, there's no way that this can be like a barber really messing up somebody's head. He has to know this man or it has to be a punishment. You know how the parents would just come just, you know, bag raised at home, bag raised at school. Ain't no way in hell. Nine-two. Ain't no way in hell, bro. Like. That has to be his son. That's the only way he's sitting there that patient. taking that. That's like taking a whooping. He's sitting there taking a whooping on top of his head. Bro, the thought of this like being real. Listen, hey man, get the kids away from the screen right now because I'm about to crash out, okay?

37:54Bro, bro.

37:56James Harrison:Y 'all got the kids away. Y 'all got the kids away. Oh no. Listen. That's not. The second that nigga cut into my hairline, bro, I would have been whooping on his ass, bro. You had to. Bro, I would have whipped his ass, held him down and cut a strike down the middle of his motherfucking head, bro. See, that's what I'm saying. I'm trying to tell you. And if I couldn't, bro, if I couldn't whoop him, I'd have came back with 40 more. I'd have came back 40 deep and held him down and cut a strike down the middle of his head. You got to go bald head. You got to go instant bald head. And then he came in there with a head of hair.

38:36James Harrison:Oh, my. A great hairline. He had a hairline that was so far forward, you ain't have to do nothing. You ain't have to do nothing. That's what I'm saying. Barbers, he probably was trying to, you know when they keep messing up, but he went deep into his hairline. Bro, you can see where his hair is at when he cutting him back, Joe. Man, bro, I'm telling you, that's so foul. Because his hair's going to grow right back. That joint is never going to be fresh. Bro, man, they in the chat tripping, bro. They in the trash. I ain't even saying that. I ain't even saying. I don't even know what that means, man.

39:14James Harrison:Y 'all can look at the chat, man. I don't even know what that means. Look at the chat, Joe, man. Just look at the chat real quick, Joe. Look here, man. This is no way, it's no way this was real. This had to be a skit. Because I'm coming back 40 deep. If I can't do it myself, I'm coming back 40 deep. Because you either go take this stripe down the middle of your head, or you're going to take an ass whooping and we're going to give you the stripe down the middle of your head. After you didn't get my line like that, Joe, this line is like four inches up further closer than your line. You know what I'm saying?

39:50James Harrison:Yeah. Huh? Yeah. No, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because that's what I'm saying. I'm fighting for my life. So the only thing is, if a barber came in there and tried to touch my line and push it back at all, I'm like, don't do that. I'm already fighting for my life right now. So, don't over come in here trying to push it back, doing all the little crazy stuff. Because, you know, that's why I don't play about my eyes. It's already getting, you know what I'm saying? Stephen A. Smith, he know. Like, people, once your time starts coming. I ain't going to say nothing, bro. Somebody say nothing. No, no, no.

40:22James Harrison:I got it. Because once your time starts coming, Stephen A. know. That's my man. And he know his head gets to push back. But that's age. He get to push back. It ain't about getting it. He trying to line up with his left, bro. He's trying to line up. That's what I'm saying. That's what I do, too. That's what age, age, age, age comes pushback. Age comes, you start, people start losing it in certain ways. To the sides right here, the front just starts to come back, and that's when dudes end up going bald-headed. Look at my man, John, KD. It happens to all of us. Age happens. Look at you. Look at you.

40:56James Harrison:That's what I'm saying. You are always bald. Tell them where the line at. Show them and tell them where the line at, Joe. I can't tell them. I don't know. You used to be here, Joe. I think they're old back here somewhere right now. Hey, listen, Joe. And my top. Look at my top, Joe. My top lights. The roof open and all that. The roof open. And it used to be here right here. I started to line all this up around here, down here, fade the top down so I could have something to brush. You know what I mean? T-Bo, I'm trying to tell you. It's the path that we take. I know I'm getting lighter. I can feel it getting lighter.

41:30James Harrison:It's sad, but I'm fighting. So if the barber ever come and get the pushing back my sides, it's here. But my barber doesn't. That's my good man. My good man, Trav, know how I feel about my line. And I need it because I'm fighting for my life. Okay? You put up the good fight. Hey, listen. Now you rocking the ball head. Hey, listen. The man done took enough of being carried on in the house.

41:57Hey, man, I said, listen, baby. I don't even took your ball.

42:00James Harrison:Give me my ball, man. Hey, man, go ahead, man. Man that took enough of me. That's what I'm telling you. That's nothing to do. That's what I'm telling you right there. That man has a good hairline. His joint is not pushed back. That barber that's so foul. Super sick. That man got years of good hairline. He cut off years of hairline. He's tripping. Yeah, it can't be real, Joe. That got to be like some type of satire, like a joke. Like, he was going to cut a ball and they just went on ahead and pushed it back. That's his son. He got bad grades. That's the only way that he was sitting that comfortable taking that whooping on his hairline.

42:40James Harrison:You got to feel. You feel that air when it hit. Do playful who you got to play. When you get traded, go there and do what you got to do because you're hitting the lottery every year. You're playing in the league. You're making a king's ransom to play a game that we love to play. So, do what you got to do. Make sure that you're not, just don't give yourself reasons to get cut, reasons to get chopped. It is what it is. I'm an X's and O's kind of guy. Eye in the sky don't lie. If you're not doing good, ah, we got to make some moves. Ah, we got to make moves. Moves are happening. You know what I'm saying?

43:10James Harrison:Loyalty, I'm going to tell you what it is. I just won't be, I won't be shady with you. Ask me what you want to know. I'll let you know what it is. Okay. Sometimes, sometimes, I can't, sometimes, sometimes I can't, sometimes I might not be able to be as straightforward as possible because I'm, because I'm working the deals. I am upper management. You can't know. Left hand can't know what the right hand's doing. So I respect the fact that you can't be telling me. You know what I'm saying? I'm a player. You are upper management. So there's still going to be a relationship. There's going to be a respectful relationship.

43:39James Harrison:But at least let it get to me before somebody's telling me about it. Yes, yes, yes. You know? Before Adam Scheffner drops it. Right. Before Adam Scheffner drops it. All right, man. Look. Pull him into the office. Soon you leave, then Adam Scheffner's going to know because the agent knows things are happening. fast. So I'm going to pull you in there and boom, as soon as you leave out of there your ass is on the ticker. No question.

44:04James Harrison:What is this, Joe? Never bust again. Never bust again is crazy. Yo, never bust again. Five dollars. Joe. What's the Joe? Joe. You mean Joe? Joe? or Joe?

44:28My man, Joe.

44:30James Harrison:Who are we talking about? I don't know. Never bust again. You talking about never... Never mind. I'm not going to say that. Yeah, you... Yeah, never. Never mind, Joe. Joe! Yes, sir? Maybe you're talking about Joel Osteen. What's the dude's name? Church. Church? Osteen. Osteen. Osteen. something like that. Don't get me lying. Billy Joel. Billy Joel. Joel Pantonio. Joel Pantonio. I don't know too many Joels. I know a bunch of Joels. I know Joe Burrow. Joe Pantonio. Can we resign him? That'd be fine. Yeah. I know Joe Flacco. I know Joe Burrow. I know Joe Burrow I know Joe Montana You know Joe Montana?

45:29James Harrison:I know of Joe Montana but this is what I'm trying to I don't even want to bring this back up because it's probably a sensitive subject for you Please don't in the sense of Mexico and all that other stuff and my search for Joe's I was looking at Joe Burrow I was looking at Joe Montana and I ain't going to lie the big fit that I was looking at was so we could keep the, it was just in the spirit of keeping the Cleveland, you know, Steelers thing going. It's Joe Thomas, you know? So, yeah. Yes. Joe Thomas. You know what I'm saying? There's just so many great Joes. I was just, you know. Joe Green. Joe Green.

46:16You know?

46:17James Harrison:Joe Montana. Yes, sir. Joe Mama. Joe Mama. Hey, man, look here. We want to thank y 'all for joining us on this episode of Deebo and Joe. Please make sure you like, subscribe, and download where you get your show. Joe. Yo, yo, yo. We will see y 'all again on Monday, same time, same place. Let's get it. And we out. How you doing today, Joe?

46:52James Harrison:Let me tell you something, Debo. Debo, it's my time real quick.

47:29James Harrison:Peace to the planet. Charlamagne Tha God here. And listen, we are back. The Black Effect Podcast Festival is back in Atlanta on April 25th at Pullman Yards. And the full lineup is nuts. We got the Grits and Eggs podcast. Deontay Kyle and Big Ice Cup Cat. We got Club 520 with Jeff Teague and the gang. Don't call me white girl Mona will be there Keep it positive sweetie with Crystal Renee We got reality with the king with Carlos King And yes, drink champs will be in the building Plus you know we're going to have a lot of guests So you need to join us And we got the Black Effect Marketplace The picture podcast And everything you expect from the Black Effect Podcast Festival Tickets are on sale right now Go get yours at blackeffect.com slash podcast festival Don't play yourself, okay?

48:14James Harrison:Pull up

48:20James Harrison:10-10 shots fired in City Hall building. How could this have happened in City Hall? Somebody tell me that. A shocking public murder. This is one of the most dramatic events that really ever happened in New York City politics. I screamed, get down, get down. Those are shots. A tragedy that's now forgotten. And a mystery. That may or may not have been political. That may have been about sex. Listen to Rorschach, Murder at City Hall on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

49:14Mostly Human is your playbook for how tech can work for you. Anyone can now be an entrepreneur. Anyone can build an app. And it's very empowering. Listen to Mostly Human on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

49:30In 2023, Bachelor star Clayton Eckerd was accused of fathering twins. But the pregnancy appeared to be a hoax. You doctored this particular test twice, Ms. Owens, correct? I doctored the test once. It took an army of internet detectives to uncover a disturbing pattern. Two more men who'd been through the same thing. Greg Gillespie and Michael Mancini. My mind was blown. I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trapped. Laura, Scottsdale Police. As the season continues, Laura Owens finally faces consequences. Listen to Love Trapped podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

50:09Ready for a different take on Formula One? look no further than No Grip, a new podcast tackling the culture of motor racing's most coveted series. Join me, Lily Herman, as we dive into the underexplored pockets of F1, including the story of the woman who last participated in a Formula One race weekend, the recent uptick in F1 romance novels, and plenty of mishaps, scandals, and sagas that have made Formula One a delightful, decadent dumpster fire for more than 75 years. Listen to No Grip on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human.

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