Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Tom Brady Hot Take(Cont.), Odell Beckham Returns to Giants, Lions SB Window Closed?

23:27James Harrison:I'm going to let that man. You want that man on his grill? Now your grill, bro. Bro, you know damn well. I can't afford that shit, man. I'm over here struggling, man, just trying to get these braces right, man. It's got to be just to get back out through the field. You know what answers everything? Balling out. Get you a grill. Now, go ball. Hey, Joe, I need to know something. You got diamonds, right? Yeah. Do they cut the inside of your lip? Why not? They smooth. Smooth. Oh. Well, see, these braces be cutting shit out. See, no, that's why you got to go to my dentist. to my good man. What's your dentist going to do with the braces?

24:09What are you going to do? Make them diamond braces?

24:10James Harrison:I don't know. His braces probably won't cut your lip. I don't know how, but yeah, he's not cutting your lip up. That's for sure. The braces themselves cut your lip up, Joe. It ain't nothing you can do about that, Joe. Ain't nothing you can do about that, Joe. Unless you want to just make them out of diamonds. Yeah. I ain't never had braces, man. I got to figure out how to deal with them. My bad. I'll look it up for you, D. Bo. Listen, Joe, how you ain't never had braces and you're going to tell me your dentist could do this? He ain't never put no braces in your mouth. You don't know what he can and can't do.

24:45All he can do is put you to sleep and put diamonds in your mouth. He ain't even a real dentist. Put you to sleep like you get the tattoos. Is that the same dude, the dentist and the tattoo artist? No, the dentist don't do no tattoos.

24:55James Harrison:The dentist is doing his dental duties. Okay. I'm just saying, Joe, whatever you say. Aiden Hutchinson says the Lions remain in a window to win the Super Bowl despite disappointing 2025. The Lions were largely seen as a Super Bowl contender before falling short of the preseason, postseason, sorry, postseason after back-to-back bursts. Joe, do you believe, do you agree with him or do you disagree? I agree with him. Hmm? Yeah. Tell me why. Because they still got the coach. They still got the quarterback. And I think that they're going to be able to still get pieces. Aiden Hutchinson is still there.

25:44James Harrison:He got hurt. You know what I'm saying? They know that their secondary wasn't doing as well, so they got to help the defense out. They still got my man, Amarose Brown. They still got Gibbs. They still got my man that could take it up top. so I don't I don't believe why they wouldn't still have a chance okay I disagree with that because if you look at it what was it 23-24 they went on ahead and that was their opportunity man to do their stuff right they had a chance to get that right there and I understand what he's saying he came back he's coming back he should feel the way he feel because he did what he did and everything should be how it's to be and that's what you should say yes i understand that but i don't understand the whole if he really means uh is i think y 'all missed y 'all window like it's a very small window when you when you're going to win that super bowl and the guys that you gotta have around you and you know like i don't think a lot of people understand how how losing a minor part you know of your team let alone like major parts like they lost when you look at theirs they lost the oc and the dc uh-huh you know i'm saying they lost ben johnson he went to chicago i think he took l with him nine two now aaron glenn he went to new york so you take that with the fact that they lost what was it they lost a couple key players uh kevin zeitler he went to um Tennessee or something they had Smith and Davis Davis went to the Patriots or something right he got he got money he got paid over there I believe that's money over there so when you look at it 2025 just this past year what was the issue the issue was the biggest issue the OC the offensive coordinator they they couldn't get the stuff right like it was they was in trouble all last year and the offense was not able to do what it was able to do before when they had the oc and be able to do produce consistently game in and game out and then camo goes and he takes over the play calling which was a 9-2 success at first for one game and then after that crashed out burnt to the ground like yeah people don't realize that like those parts those people when you don't have them like you're missing that aspect of that person that's able to put those people together like the special teams guy that you have that is your your your base dog special teams person but he's not a starter but he's your starter in waiting so he's the guy that's going to be there when your your starter goes down like 2005 dude i was that dude 2005 i had three uh spot starts uh i did um it was um san diego when i jumped over the danian it was the browns game when i slammed a cleveland browns uh fan and it was another one those games were games where i was on special teams like yo i'm like cool like all this is great but the opportunity came like i was an integral part of that even though i wasn't a starter you know what i'm saying and you look now and they done lost montgomery like why is montgomery gone because the old coordinator that had him which was ben johnson him and uh uh the other guy what's his name what's his name uh montgomery and yes they he was able to use them in a fashion that made it work sonic and knuckles he made sonic and knuckles damn that's this right here when he left and he went to chicago they couldn't figure it out they couldn't get it going and now you had dan stepping in like yo i'm gonna do this i'm gonna run it's cool it worked for one game and then after that it went down you know and then at the end of the season you fired the oc now you still don't have an oc so i understand what hayden's hutches is saying because he's doing what he's doing but you can't play offense.

30:01You can't run the O.C. You can't tell these guys what to do. You can't get a cohesive group together on offense so that y 'all can get back to what you were.

30:10James Harrison:I think they do have a cohesive offense, Debo. When they got rid of Montgomery, they got Isaiah Bacheco. And they've been working on their defense. They knew the defense was off. During this whole offseason, they have all of the pieces, the puzzle pieces to make it happen. So when he's saying that their window is still open, they got the head coach still they got the quarterback he's on the defensive side of the ball he knows that they still got Gibbs they got the talent to get the job done so when he's saying that the window is still open with the coach the quarterback and he's still there so he's saying that they your OC is gone bro that window was gone your players are you have lost all that dude the window is closing and you gotta you gotta find a different window right now the window that It's closing, but it's still open.

30:59James Harrison:It ain't wide open. The window for them to win a Super Bowl next year is gone. They ain't even got an OC right now, bro. And you see what they did with the OC they had and when Campbell took over. He gave himself a nap. Okay. I hear you, D-Bo. We going to watch it. We going to see. We going to see. Dude, this is the same coach that went on head and tried that bullfraggle rock with all that fourth down stuff. That's cool. If he would have hit on the fourth downs, then it would have been looking different. Bruh, they should have been in two Super Bowls by now. Real talk. And that should have been 23 and 24.

31:42James Harrison:I just could see how he's not. If I made Hutchinson, I'm saying the same damn thing. I'm going to say the same thing. You know what I'm saying? Personally, I believe. Yes, you got to, man. you got to believe that because if you don't believe that what are you doing you know what i'm saying like you got to believe that but me personally i think their window is gone until they figure out how to be able to get a consistent uh offensive output game in game out quarter in quarter out they're gonna be in trouble they'll be in trouble bro like it's not you know that's dude i'm trying to tell you that it's hard like you got to look at even 2005 okay so 2005 we won the Super Bowl right now 2006 came we didn't even make the playoffs we lost uh we lost a couple starters things changed everything coach was gone you know what i'm saying like we lost joey i replaced peasy and it was like maybe maybe maybe one or two other people it was something like that but like we still had that core group together and the thing that happened when mike came in when mike tomlin came in what he did he didn't change nothing we kept the same defense so all we did was put the players into the spot that year we went we should have we should have won the super bowl again that year to be honest with you bro but we we got drove so hard in training camp and through the season that we ended up losing to jacksonville bro at home the next year we ended up winning the super bowl but you know that that that year before like i feel like we could have you know we could have did it then we just we had just got ran into the dirt from you know training camp all the way through that we just didn't have it to finish so the next year was we still had our core you know what i'm saying we still had the coaches the deep nobody on the defensive side changed when when uh the offense came in that's when um it was a couple guys that left but uh ba he ended up going from the quarterback coach to the oc so then was still doing the same thing bruce arians he went from the Quarterback coach to the OC.

34:07Ben was doing the same thing. You got the OC. The quarterback coach who's now the OC. You're running the same offense. You have a couple of different coaches that came in. The defensive side stayed exactly the same. Nothing got changed. So that's why we were able to keep rolling. You know, 2007, we was 1-1-5-2-1-1. From 2007 to 12, we were never lower than a 5. We kept that same core group of guys together. And by 2012, they started tearing it apart. They got rid of too many people. It was changed. I mean, five years is a long time to keep being able to run it back. Well, that's what happened, dude.

34:49When you're able to keep your shit together, you got a great system. You got guys that buy in. You got a coach that actually knows what the hell he's doing. And everybody is on the same thing. When you start changing stuff, you start, like I said, you can't just spot switch one person out here and then say,

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37:49It's the same thing.

37:51James Harrison:No, no, no, for sure. You know what I'm saying? Like, so when you got that core group of guys together, like you said, five, six, seven, eight years, hey, it's no longer about me figuring out what the hell I'm doing. I'm trying to figure out what that corner doing on the other side so I could better help myself, so I could better help the defense, so that we all can get something done here. Like, we're trying to win championships. The better I play, the better we play, the better we get paid, whether it's there or somewhere else. But we all got to work together to do this, and when you're able to stay together that long, you built that knowledge and understanding of what is going on.

38:30And it's no longer about what you do because I can't know what I know better. I can know what somebody else is doing that way. Now everybody on the defense is like a quarterback.

38:41James Harrison:You see what I'm saying? If everybody on offense was a quarterback, everybody on defense was a quarterback. Everybody knew what everybody was doing. How much better is that going to make your defense? Well, you can't do that when you got guys that are just worried about the hell they doing because they haven't even learned to pull a defense. So now you're changing things so that you can fit them in there and not have them worry about too many. When you look to your left and you look to your right and you guys are speaking the same language, y 'all already expecting what's going to happen on the offensive side of the ball.

39:10James Harrison:We already know what the defense is. I'm here. He's going to be here. So you're just flowing the communication. It just sounds like music. Usually everybody's ears, they're talking and everybody knows what everybody else is talking about. So you're just hearing people talk. When you're saying talk, communicate. if you know a good defense, when you just hear chatter, there's just people talking and they're not looking around crazy. Everybody's moving. If you're silent and you just see people looking left to right and not saying nothing, oh my goodness. We're about to get bombed up. When you hear people...

39:42James Harrison:Hold on, hold on, hold on. He's confused. He's confused. Get me out of here because now he's going to have me looking nuts. He's just like this. He's going to have me looking crazy. He's going to fuck around, go the wrong way, running to me, having me tear up. You just start seeing people do this. I'm going to go ahead and lock it. I'm like, what are you talking about? We're not locking nothing. We can't lock it. What you doing? No, he ain't giving me no looks. He ain't said nothing. He ain't gave me no hands, no nothing. Hey, I'm locking this shit. I said, brother, you don't know what we're doing.

40:09James Harrison:Stop it. Yeah, for real, D-Bose. You know, when you looking at your mask, you already speaking the same language. In and out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He moved. We doing this. We moving to it. He like this. Got it. Yes. Hey, alert. alert motion i'm going to the nub over over over you're talking they're like yes yes oh my goodness dude looking at me like this what hold on hold on hold on hold on what you don't ask me questions i'm not i'm not i'm not giving you a question i'm giving you a statement i'm telling you something don't ask me i'm when i say this you supposed to say you supposed to be like yes yes that's what i was expecting yeah don't be over i can't listen bro i i can't be out here telling you what to do in your job.

40:52I can know what you're supposed to do in your job, but your job can adjust in that play. And I can't pay attention to if your job is adjusting. I don't got time to sit

41:01James Harrison:here and have a full-blown conversation with you like it's walkthrough. He motioned it to you. Huh? You heard me. If you heard, you can hear. If you heard, you can hear. You heard, you can hear. Huh? Oh, my God. I ain't hear him. No, the fuck you did. Yeah, you did. You just didn't know what the hell you was doing. You're trying to think that, huh? Is you like this, oh, my God, what am I doing? Yeah. I'm like, bro, you heard exactly what I said. Damn, when I'm supposed to do it. How you doing? I got to do it. Oh, shit. Lock. They don't start. Lock. God. That's the worst. You got to automatically lock.

41:42Hey, let's jump into the Super Chat, man. Come to life. She's back. Five dollars. She said, it may be safe to say. I got it. It may be safe to say that you have surpassed. It says at, but it means that. That you have surpassed Bernie Mac in saying, hey, Joe. Yes, it's Monday and the Browns are still trash. Yep. All right. Cover the life. You got it.

42:11James Harrison:You got it. You got it. Hey, happy June 1st. The Browns are still trash. Whatever you say, cover it. I can't, yep, we're going to show you this year. But just wait, just wait. I can't, I have nothing to say right now. We haven't, we haven't proved it on the field. So when we prove it, I'm going to have ammunition. You have ammunition. During these seasons, during this football season, y 'all ain't going to like me when the Browns snap. Y 'all ain't going to like me. Okay, so I'm glad you said that so that now when I jump on your neck, yeah okay now it ain't go y 'all and stay out the chat talking about be nice to joe don't be something to joe y 'all heard what he just said he said as soon as the ground started doing it he gonna say i'm not y 'all i did not say that i did not say that that's what you said in my heart there you go i did not say that i said i'm at your neck i get aggressive with my words when i feel like somebody being aggressive with their tongue and you said something aggressive you talking about ammunition.

43:17You talking about shooting and all that shit. No, no, no. You getting your ammo together. Oh, you getting ammo not to shoot? I know you don't shoot.

43:26James Harrison:You know it. Bruh. Bruh, boy, I'm a man. I'm a dog walking, man. I love dogs, too. That's a bad thing, but I got to kick the shit out of them dog pound dogs. I mean, just kick the dog shit out of them. Deebo, relax. Relax. Come on, Deebo. You know what I'm going to do? I'm going to go to the game. Of course you are. I'm going to be there too. I'm sitting in the dog pile. With a still beam. Nope. Don't do that. Don't do that. I'm going to sit over there and I'm going to kick all the little pound puppies. Matter of fact, I might bring the dog catcher to catch all them mutts because I know none of them got no damn license.

44:13James Harrison:Don't do that. You are not welcome. I might have to put them down. You're not welcome. You're not welcome. In the dog pound. You come to the game. You know what I do to Browns fans? Boom! Yeah, when you ran on the field at the wrong time, that's what you got to do. You had to put them down. He deserved it. Oh, for real. See, now you're trying to be nice. He thought he had ammo too. He thought he had ammo too, Joe. You know what he said, Joe? What he said? What he said to me. So when I slammed him down, I started to throw his arm behind his back, but I didn't want to hurt him. You know what I'm saying?

44:56So I put him in front. So his other hand was free. He grabbed my face mask. So once he realized it was me, he got slammed, and he was like, and then he looked up and he saw it was me. He was like, oh, yeah, I got your ass now. Yeah. I was like, oh, for real? Okay. Okay. So I took my hand, bro, and I had his hand here, and I started pushing it into his throat, right? Bro, the police got there. That's all I did. When the police got there, bro, they pinned him down with boots on his head. I swear. And the one dude had his boot on his head and was looking at, he had his boot on his head and then he was looking at me like I'm like I don't care that you're doing I don't disapprove of it I don't approve of it either but like when I got off of him he was cool by the time they got him up man that man was cutting bleed man like y 'all it was the police that really did it to him they got a jail in the stadium they put him in we got a jail in the stadium?

46:03yes they say every stadium has a jail I didn't know that like you act stupid at these stadiums They got a little jail cell down there. They got a jail... It definitely makes sense.

46:15James Harrison:They got a jail cell. They got an infirmary. I think they got a little small station down there. They waiting on you. Go ahead, if you want to. Oh, man, you're hemmed up. Okay, got you. Oh, yeah. They ain't tripping. They is not tripping, brother. They is not tripping. Covenant Life,$19,$20. She said, when your jersey or anything with your name on it is sold after retirement, you get nothing. James, you are all up in the pro shop, and the items are not cheap. Where does that money go? I don't know. I don't know. I'm going to have to find out. I'm going to check into that. We're pro shop. I'm in the pro shop, man.

47:02I'm going to run down there, man. I'm going to go ahead and strap up, man, going down there and see what they got, man. You know what I'm saying? Somebody go to the pro shop, man. The Steelers, they don't play

47:13James Harrison:about their memorabilia. They will get our jerseys, take them joints, because I've seen in that pro shop they got game worn stuff. That's why I started keeping all my stuff. I found that out a long time ago. Back in 2013, 14, it was. I started keeping everything. It was like, your gloves. Your gloves is in the thing. I'm like, my gloves is in where? Yeah, in the shop. I said, oh, no. I told him, I said, look here, don't y 'all take nothing out of my locker. Keep everything in my locker. Do not take nothing out of my locker. Yeah. I made sure all my stuff went back with me to the practice facility, and I took it home.

47:54So I took my stuff home every game after. And if it, like, they had the Fanatics thing or whatever they would do, they would take the jersey. I said, listen, I ain't signed no damn deal with Fanatics. Don't touch my damn jersey. I paid for that. No question. I paid for that. I paid for all of them. They made you pay extra for jerseys and all that. Yeah, brother. Yeah, I said, don't touch my goddamn jersey, but that's mine. I paid for that.

48:17James Harrison:They were taxing for the jersey, for the game jerseys in Pittsburgh, though. In Cleveland, we got them for how much it cost, like, regular, like, around how much they made them for. So we got it for the low. And Pittsburgh, oh, yeah, you paying that sales price, the aftermarket dude like for the game jersey I mean sorry for the game jersey they let you get you know like whatever they considered face but that shit was still like what two three hundred dollars or some shit per jersey I was like man that's crazy Joe Mr. Stiller fan forty three five dollars he said but Joe can't take the bet last week about the Steelers versus the Browns.

49:03If you feel strong about them, bet I need Joe to realize who really loves him.

49:13Hmm.

49:14James Harrison:This one I'm going to say, though. You telling me that we bet that I couldn't rock no more Browns gear for the 40s. You know what it is. Don't act stupid like you done forgot it. You knew what it was. I bet something else. I bet something else because I'm going to rock my gear. I bet you a dinner. I bet you a dinner. I bet you a dinner. For sure. I bet you a dinner. I bet you a little, you know what I'm saying? We could make a small friendly wager on it. I'm going to rock my Browns gear regardless. Okay, listen. How y 'all feel about that? I bet you, but you know, we going, hey, listen. If we bet, I bet you, but my checking in, my checking in, my savings account set up a little different.

49:58So we could go to like Applebee's or something. Applebee's if I lose we go to Applebee's but if you lose we go wherever you go no matter what

50:11James Harrison:it's going to be Eddie V's on Eddie V's on the loser Eddie V's on the loser whoever lose got to pay for Eddie V's hold up what if I lose Eddie V's what is that what is Eddie V's Is that where I went for a rookie dinner? Yeah. Oh, hell no. I can't for that. You're lying. That's all I'm telling you. So you don't believe. So now you don't believe. Wow. I do believe. You do. So back there then. So you know it's going to be dinner. You know what I'm saying? Back there, run it. What are you talking about, man? I'm just, you know, I'm just talking. I'm just trying to make you feel good, though. Run it.

50:49Run it. Run it. I'm just trying to make you feel good. Listen, man. OBJ just signed with the Giants. Schaffner said he signed with the Giants.

50:59James Harrison:I told y 'all he was. Shepner said he signed with the Giants. I told you he was. I just didn't see him. I just didn't. I just didn't. You know what I'm saying? What did he sign for? What did they give him? Nothing crazy. I think he might have just. We're going to see. We're going to see what they gave him tomorrow, though. We're going to see what they gave him tomorrow. Hey, look here, ladies and gentlemen, we want to thank you guys for joining us on this episode of Debo and Joe. Please make sure you like, subscribe, and download where you get your show. Yo! Make sure y 'all catch us tomorrow, same time, same place.

51:28James Harrison:Let's get it. Here we are.

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