Deebo & Joe - Part2: Chris Johnson Diagnosed With ALS, Bills Exclude OJ in New Stadium, Aiyuk Calls Out NFLPA

27:36Like all the stuff he's putting out there, what he's saying, like who's going to pick you up? No. He's wiling out right now. My whole thing is - Right now? If the agent, if the, I'm just trying to figure out when you start, if it is, like he said, if it is that his agent was knew that he wasn't going to get his signing, wasn't going to get his$23 million voided you know what I'm saying, before he did was it just his actions that was making this happen? You know what I'm saying? Like not going They said he missed it was certain stuff they had to do, so it was like treatment stuff to come to, all that other stuff.

28:23So he basically voided it. So you know how they get you You do something wrong here, you do something wrong here, and then they hit you with conduct detrimental because you continue to do it. I got you. That's probably what he ran into and didn't realize what the hell conduct detrimental was. So that's what I'm saying. As far as it being your agent's fault or you not knowing or you thinking they're in cahoots, it takes your actions to get this whole thing started. For you not to be going to showing up to the rehabs, talking and communicating with the teams, you know what I'm saying, being there.

28:53That's what gets your contract voided. So it takes kind of to the tango. So, I mean, if you aren't showing up to your team and you're not going, why that's that's conduct detrimental. That's something that's in the contracts where you can get your money taken from that. So now you lose guarantees. Why did my agent has nothing to do with your agent? Those are things that you did that when you signed that contract, you knew that you have to be there. You have to comply to certain things with the 49ers for them to make sure that they paid you the first 60 million. And then this next 24 that's supposed to come, that's going to come in the next year.

29:29But if you don't do things to this contract, you know what I'm saying, we could take this away. So the cahoots part in knowing what's going on and them like, I'm just looking at it like, if there's a real case where something was going on, go get legal action. That should not be okay. But I'm looking at like, is it you first that it takes you to not show up to things and not be in communication with the team to then do something to get your contract voided? You know what I'm saying? So I'm just looking at it from, but if you do have a situation where your agent and the general manager of the 49ers were in cahoots working against you to be able to do something behind the table to get your contract voided and didn't tell you your contract was going to be voided, then you should go get legal counsel and go sue them and we should go be pursuing that.

30:23But if they, if I don't, I don't see, I don't know. They didn't tell him. Everybody knew. Everybody knew. Everybody knew when it was reported two, three times in November, brother. What are we talking about? They voided his 2026 guarantee. They said that. That was in November. What weren't you looking at, bro? If you're saying you just finding this out now, well, you wasn't paying no attention. That lets me know how much more you weren't paying attention and lack of understanding. Like, come on. Yeah. Yeah. I just, yeah, bro. The way he's going, man, I don't even see him being able to get back in, bro.

31:08He's done. Like, I can't even chance that, bro. I can't. And even when we was talking about just the way sometimes they always, they say to coach, you know, Kyle Shanahan, he might be a certain way. And there's coaches that I play for, Eric Mangini. like when you go to the facility there's certain things that you got to wear team organized, team issued team issued to the meetings some teams, they don't care, you can just walk in there how you want, you know what I'm saying, long as you're on time you know what I'm saying, grown man stuff so some coaches, when you go to practice you have to wear a certain pair of shorts and you wear a certain pair of shoes you know what I'm saying, and that's just the way Eric Mangini rocked, we couldn't wear visors at practice, we couldn't wear certain like, certain color shorts, and I would want to because it's like, but it's like, no Like, it don't matter how good you are, everybody's in here wearing the same thing.

32:01And when you start getting the deals and getting the contracts, like, I would see where Brandi Ayoub came to the practice in the different shorts. Once you start getting it and then start taking the shorts off and just, like, because he just wanted to. So how do you go from listening and practice, Joe, to wearing what you want in the games and getting fined? Well, look, it was sometimes I felt comfortable. If my knees weren't, yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Some of the stuff was just. Damn, Joe. Damn. I ain't know what to say. I ain't know what to say. Sometimes I just wanted to look cool like Debo.

32:34I wore the visor on Monday Night Football because I'm like, a lot of people are going to see. Let me throw in the visor because I thought it was going to look sweet. If I wore the all-white cleats, it's because the cleats look better with the uniform and I felt the cleats was sticking, so I'm going to wear the cleats. I'm like, all right, you know what? Five bands for me to feel good, comfortable in this game. Let me go get a pick, and I'm going to hopefully make it back on the next contract. So I was thinking crazily. So I don't need to do that. But I was. You were saying, I'm going to pay this fine, but I'm going to get it back.

32:59I'm going to pay this fine, but I'm going to get it back, though. Because I feel good. Look good. Feel good. How you going to get it back when you ain't have to pay it? You could have had it. How much money you done paid in fines, Joe? It was dumb. How many millions you done paid in fines, Joe? No, not millions. Not millions. Not millions. Oh, how many hundreds of thousands? Not even hundreds. Probably around a hundred. Probably around a hundred. Probably around a hundred. Now, listen. This is a hundred, y 'all. This is a hundred bands, y 'all. when their fine was$2 ,500. That tell y 'all how quick he was with it.

33:29If they gave him that quick$150 ,000,$100 ,000, he would have stopped that immediately. Oh, for sure. For sure. I would have had on the all... All black would have been the only police I had in the facility. You would have spray painted them off. Everything. For sure. Blackout. Blackout, brother. George Kittle spoke out on the NFL teams being willing to use grass for the World Cup matches, but not for their own football players. We made it clear that we prefer grass fields. We know it's better on our bodies. And clearly, we know it's possible based on everything that went into putting down grass fields for the World Cup in each stadium.

34:17At this point, it comes down to the NFL making it a priority and choosing to invest in us as players because our bodies are our businesses, which they get to capitalize on. No, it is not your players, the owner's responsibility. It's actually the NFLPA responsibility. They are the ones that go in there and say, hey, this here is something that is a non-negotiable. What did we say last time when they came in, when FIFA came in, FIFA came in, they said, hey, this is what we're talking about. There will be no turf. That means no money, no worldwide coverage. Y 'all doing all these international games because y 'all want worldwide coverage.

35:05Again, the same thing they've been telling the players or they should be telling these players right now. The contract is up. The CBA is up in 2030. They're trying to get a deal done. Why are they trying to get a deal done now? Because they know our leadership is trash, and they'll do a deal that is 100 % out of the favor of the players just so that they can keep position and power and help themselves. No player or no deal, I should say, should be done before the 2030 season. Like, it should not be a deal done until they lock us out, to be honest with you. Unless we're getting 100 % of what we want, okay?

35:47Right now, they should be telling them players, 30%. Everybody, say 30 % each year all the way up to 2030. So that way you can withstand 18 months of getting locked out and not getting paid that you're good to be able to play and hold out. So that at that point, you can then get 100 % of what it is that you want or at least 90 % of what it is that you want in your favor. And by then it's going to be a hundred because you're going to be not sat out a whole year. They won't be making any money and they got TV contracts and everything else coming up. Why do you think they trying to get these deals done so fast?

36:21They know that leadership, we just got his trash or that they just got his trash and they know they're willing to go up there and make a deal. Shit. If I'm an owner and I've never, I never played the game. I'm doing the same thing, bro. I'm not making a, yes, I want to get a deal done sooner. if you're going to play ball with me and give me another bull 10-year deal. What unions do 10-year deals, man? Three, four, five at the most, bro. It's no way, dude. 10-year deals, and then on top of that, on top of that, bro, it's not even a good deal. We're doing, or they're doing stuff just simply to make sure they can hold position and power.

36:59All the rules that have been changed that have benefited anybody has benefited more to execs in the NFLPA than it has the players like it don't so they do a deal before then it's crazy tell your players right now save 30 each year so that you can last 18 months because that'll save you about 140 150 of your money over that time when the new cba will come up do and they go lock you out or you'll lock out if you don't you're not going to get and that's why you don't have grass field it's not the And it's not the NFL, it's the players or the representatives for the players, the NFLPA, that are going in there and saying, oh, this is a non-negotiable.

37:44They're not saying Fields is a non-negotiable. We can negotiate out of that. Let's be honest, though. You got cats that took this away so that I can smoke weed and not get suspended. Yeah. What? That was the grass fields. What do you think, Deebo, should be the main things that the players get out of this? This is Tony A.O. from The Real Report with Tony A.O. and Uncle Murda. You ever notice how everything keeps going up? Rent's going up. Streaming services are going up. Even your favorite burrito spot suddenly thinks salsa should cost extra. But with Boost Mobile, you and your phone bill don't have to play the will it go up soon game because Boost Mobile has an unlimited talk, text, and data plan at a price that'll never go up.

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43:02They need healthcare. They need longer healthcare. Okay. Okay. Guaranteed contracts. Ooh, that. So, damn. Fully guaranteed contracts. We're the only ones. Basketball is fully guaranteed. Basketball is fully guaranteed. Hockey is fully guaranteed. We're not. Okay. We make more money than we used to. We at least equal to or just a little below any of the other two sports together as far as how much money they make. I got a question, Debo. Would you be, this is just throwing it out there for the contracts. Would you be against if they was like the, instead of, you know, how already say a five-year$50 million contract, 25 guaranteed.

43:48Would you feel, well, let me say a three for 60 with 30 guaranteed. Would you just feel better if we just started doing contracts three for 30, fully guaranteed? would that be something that's like you would want that joint to do? I'm not lowering the money. I'm not lowering the money. Why would I lower the money? Baseball keep going up and giving more and more and more money. Other sports keep going up and giving more and more money. Dude, we're on every platform, dude. We're in all like, dude, they're trying to get it. That's why they want to do FIFA. Why? We want to get that audience. They want them to see football, realize this is a stadium and wherever it is, blah, blah, blah.

44:23Like, yo, this is why we're expanding overseas, bro, is to get more money, dude, they want more paper. And they feel like they don't... It's... What is it? They said it's almost $1 ,000 here just to get all the games if you want to watch a whole season because you got to grab so many apps. Like, what are we talking about? Nah, I'm with it. I think for sure, for sure, what you're saying is that the NFL PA needs to push that as a non-negotiable for the turf fields, the same way that the World Cup people in FIFA did it. Because end of the day, like you said, I mean, if... A smart person knows that you're going to be able to take care of your business.

44:58Your business is your players there. But with the owners, they're thinking about, too, when they have the turf. Okay, we're using the players for sure, but now they're using the... If we're talking health, Joe, if we're talking health. Yes. All right? We're talking player safety. Health and player safety. It's instantly grass. It's instantly grass. It's instant grass. Instant grass. But that's what I'm saying. Because you're not balking on finding the dog pissing shit out of guys for hits.

45:28what are we talking about instant grass dude the upkeep is gonna be what it is that's what y 'all gotta do man health care needs to be longer than five years after you're done playing that's crazy but the guys that don't have it like that i'm just saying that the nflpa obviously we should do that but i'm saying even looking as the owners if the owner own the joint why like just i think grass would be better for the owners that own the facility to be able to have grass for their stadium. Do you know what I'm saying? No, not because they can't because of the other thing. You got to cover it. You got to do a whole bunch of stuff, other stuff.

46:06Think about it. Terry Jones had grass inside the stadium that he uses for everything, multiple. That's a lot more, you know, build up, cover up, all this other stuff. You know what I'm saying? And then like, you know, Arizona, they got one you can roll in and out. I mean, do it that way. I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't know, but it should be 100 percent grass across the NFL period because, you know, that it is 100 percent safer for the players than turf. We're talking about player safety and health. If that's your main concern, what you've been preaching and gawking about since 2009, when you started finding the piss out of me.

46:46Show us. They shouldn't even have to say, hey, it's a non-negotiable. You should jump in there and say, hey, we care that much that we doing this without having to be forced in all the other bulls. That is what I was saying. But it's like you were saying the same. I'm like, the money for them to be able to use Jerry Jones' facility for concerts, for World Cup, for all of this other money, he's making so much revenue. But out that 16 games during September to December, they're only going to have that stadium. So that's four months. He has it for another eight months where he's making bread in there.

47:25So at the end of the day, I feel him where he, as an owner, I'm money making. But I'm like, with you, are you going to know what's better for your players? Like to keep your team healthy? Like that is still a good thing where you're saying like you should come in for the knowing that it's right. I'm like, I don't think they're doing that. Like, you know what I'm saying? So we want them to do it, but they obviously aren't. Yeah, dude. Like, it's like the healthcare, dude. Like, did you see the article that just came out with Chris Johnson, dude? Oh, I saw it this morning. Straighthand? Yeah, I saw it this morning, bro.

48:12That's crazy, bro. He is diagnosed with ALS, bro. Like, 39. Like, just last year, bro. I just saw this cat, man, at the Super Bowl in New Orleans, like, last year, February, bro. Like, I sent you the picture, bro. Like, what in the world? Crazy, bro. Like, all I wanted— Caught me completely. Dude, here's the crazy thing, bro. And his health care is about to be up in a few years, bro. he's going to have to figure out how to pay for his own health care when did he retire was it 20 22 no no no no it was no no it was before that he retired in like 14 brother no way yeah yeah yeah his health care is already up TJ retired in like 14 mmhmm dude that's crazy that's crazy and a lot of that stuff repetitive head trauma dude like Like, come on, bro.

49:11Yeah. That was so sad, bro. You talking about the safety, bro? Like, show us, man. Get the boys grass. You can't even get them grass? My man over here, ALS, bro. 39. That's crazy, dude. He said he went to the doctor, bro. Just last year. Like. Yep. Numbness in the hand, dude. Numbness in the hand. Yep. Bro. Wow. I seen that because, Debo, like you, when you texted me and when Risa hit the chat and I was like, oh, did y 'all see this? I'm like, no, I didn't. Then I looked. Because the same way you said, like, I know I saw him two years ago at the Super Bowl and you sent the picture. I'm like, I saw him two years ago.

49:52And CJ is one of the realest, one of the nicest, one of the coolest people that I met. You know what I'm saying? Just humble, floater boy. Like, he was just always nice and just had that energy. You know what I'm saying? And so, you know how when you don't see nobody for a long time and then you see him, it's like you saw him before. You know what I'm saying? Like, I saw him probably in 13. You know what I'm saying? When I first, like, probably third year in the league, he was going out. And then I seen him again, like, two years ago at the Super Bowl. And it was like, yo, what's up, Joe? Boom, boom, boom.

50:21Just happy energy. And then for me to just go and just, you don't know what you don't know. You never know what people are going through and how fast, dude, they hit you out. How fast things could change. Like, all of a sudden, like, no, I just saw him. That's not. And then it's like, no, that's CJ. So it really just puts you in a spot where it's like life is happening. You know what I'm saying? Always just trying to keep that good energy, keep that good vibe because you never know, you know what I'm saying, what's going on. So that joint just really hit me fast. Him being from Miami, him being super cool and me seeing him two years ago.

50:55And it's like, damn. So just prayers out to him. Yeah, prayers out for sure, man. For sure. Big prayers out to CJ. Let's jump into these super chats, man.

51:12Jonathan's shop or shoot? Hoop? Jonathan's hoop? Jonathan's hoop, I guess. $2. Said Devo controls the pads. The pads control you. Okay. Facts. Right, okay. Facts. apparently the past control Joe. Joe you let the past control you at least in your mind they may not control you actually physically on your body but you let them touch your body and let them your mind which then controls your body because your mind is in the neglect of being able to flow freely because something is touching it. I need to take my shirt off if it's touching me. I can't breathe suffocating. Alright. Likely right. Two dollars.

52:05Joe, I'm 14. Could I have a jersey? Stillers F. Browns. They want a jersey. He want a Stillers jersey. F. Browns. See, hold up, Mr. Likely. That's not the way you're going to get the jersey. You got to come more correctly than that. That's just. He's 14. He's 14. I understand. I understand. Don't let him talk to you like that. That's what I'm saying. I can't let a little man talk to me like this. Yeah. Give me a jersey. Give me a jersey. Give me a jersey. Give me a jersey. A Steelers jersey. Like you right, you'll be likely getting an ass whooping. Man, likely. I might got to see you. No, that's no, I'm not going to tell no kids, man.

52:45Likely. What are you talking about? I'm whooping ass, Joe. They going, hey, man. Yo. Them words ain't going to hurt me. Them words ain't going to hurt me. Your kids come to my house. Your kids come to my house. They stay with me. They are now under my rules. They're under your rules. They can get that ass spanked. See, I'm going to tell you this. My kids going to be over there disciplined. My little little kid going to be like this. And that's what happens. I ain't never got to do nothing. Man, ain't going to be no noise made. They going to be sorry. They come over there. They bring their kids over.

53:18They be like, man, you don't never act like that. Like you told them the rules was. They show some respect. Oh, they do. Hey, look. They do got it in them. They do got it in them. They ain't playing. They ain't dumb. They know who to act with and who not to act with. Right. They're going to go over there and try. No. Listen, I'm going to tell you something, man. My kids had two different personalities. They had their personality when they was with their other side of the family. Then they had their personality when they was with my side of the family. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I get the call.

53:53Hey. He said this and that. Listen. Oh. Calling me, using me as a threat. Y 'all better start whooping some ass. I ain't never heard him. He ain't never said that over here. You better protect your house. You better whoop his ass. Come on, man. He talking to you. He ain't talking to me. He ain't talking to me. We got understanding on this side. No question, brother. Look here, man. Hey, guys, tomorrow we will have David Montgomery join us on the show. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Where he at, right? Where he at? Who did we just talking about earlier? Houston. Houston. He about to help out my good man CJ.

54:38Yeah, Lions let him fly. You know what I'm saying? We'll get a chance to talk to my guy, David Montgomery. We travel at the same spot. Okay. We all out there at PEP over there getting right. Getting right with my guy, Ian. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Likely right just came back. He said, maybe. No, he said, MB. What's MB? My bad. Okay, he said, my bad. That came off wrong. I was rushing. He said... See, there we go. There we go. Likely, we got more... He said, my bad, LOL. That came off wrong. I was rushing. Hey. We're going to build a rapport. Let's build this rapport. Likely. And I got you. Let's build this rapport.

55:22Hey, D-Boy and Joe, we don't... Hey, listen, we just let them know. We don't take no shit now. We don't take... We can't. We can't. We can't. I got Debo here. It came all wrong. Yeah, you got to type that different. Yeah, you see Debo, you know, okay. You was typing too tough. Okay. That's the problem with typing. You can say it how you want to. You know what I'm saying? Debo, okay. You know what I'm saying? No disrespect will be tolerated. No. No disrespect will be tolerated. Even, like I said, even though you, you know, you got your, you're browns. You know what I'm saying? You're still my ace, boom, cool.

55:54You know what I'm saying? I'm still going to put somebody down about you. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to fight with you. You know what I'm saying, baby? That's my dog. Listen, baby. I lie for you before I ever lie on you. You understand? Look here. We want to thank you guys for joining us on this episode of D-Bo and Joe. Please make sure you like, subscribe. We got 251 in the chat right now. Only 117 likes. Come on, get them up. Like, subscribe and download where you get your show. Likely right. Like. Likely right. Let's keep this momentum likely You know what I'm saying? Start off on the wrong foot You know what I'm saying?

56:30Let's keep this banter You know what I'm saying? Might get you that jersey My good man We will see you tomorrow Same time, same place Let's get it And we out

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